Wow! I have golden ears.

[UnsteadyKen]

Today I conducted an impromptu listening test between a
Denon DRA-345R receiver and a JVC A-X3 amplifier
and heard clear and easily identifiable differences in the sound of
each. These differences were so great that I am confident that
in a properly conducted blind listening test I would be able to
identify each component with a 100% success rate.
There we have it, proof at last, amplifiers do sound different.
Any questions?
--
Ken

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > > Rega Mira vs Cyrus 8

> > And? And? Give us something for the Enquirer.

> Bass, favoring the Cyrus. I would expect it to be measurable.

Great. Two British integrateds, one costing over $1000 and the other not
even sold in the U.S. Sedition! Treason!

>There's also more clarity/silent background stuff that could disappear in a
> blind test.

Blasphemy! You dare to speak disparagingly of the Holy Blinding Rituals?
God will smite you where you stand!

[Vinylanach]

On Jun 14, 11:32�am, UnsteadyKen > wrote:
> Today I conducted an impromptu listening test between a
> Denon DRA-345R receiver and a JVC A-X3 amplifier
> and heard clear and easily identifiable differences in the sound of
> each. These differences were so great that I am confident that
> in a properly conducted blind listening test I would be able to
> identify each component with a 100% success rate.
> There we have it, proof at last, amplifiers do sound different.
> Any questions?
> --
> Ken

Ferstler would maintain that one of the amps must be broken if you can
hear differences. You'll need to submit test measurements for both
ASAP.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Soundhaspriority said:

> >> Bass, favoring the Cyrus. I would expect it to be measurable.
> >
> > Great. Two British integrateds, one costing over $1000 and the other not
> > even sold in the U.S. Sedition! Treason!

That one wasn't aimed at the Krooborg, obviously.

> >>There's also more clarity/silent background stuff that could disappear in
> >> blind test.

> > Blasphemy! You dare to speak disparagingly of the Holy Blinding Rituals?
> > God will smite you where you stand!

> I don't know that Arny is even reading this, let alone free to respond, but
> this is one way to find out.

Don't be coy. Out with it.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > > Bass, favoring the Cyrus. I would expect it to be measurable.
> >
> > Great. Two British integrateds, one costing over $1000 and the other not
> > even sold in the U.S. Sedition! Treason!
>
> There's a new version of the Cyrus that's supposed to have more bass,
> but it's also more expensive.

No problem for an elitist like you or Jenn.

> My budget is more suited to Onkyo receivers at the moment.

Pretensions to commonhood noted.

> > >There's also more clarity/silent background stuff that could disappear in a
> > > blind test.

> > Blasphemy! You dare to speak disparagingly of the Holy Blinding Rituals?
> > God will smite you where you stand!
>
> I favor the Tedious Remasters Comparo these days.

I think I hear the Obscureness Alarm.....

[UnsteadyKen]

UnsteadyKen said:

> Any questions?

In response to the vast number of enquiries I have not received here
is the test report.

A report on amplifier sound quality.
------------------------------------

Equipment under test:
---------------------
Denon DRA-345R FM receiver
JVC A-X3 Integrated amplifier

Ancillary equipment:
--------------------
Sony Cd player and MD recorder.

Cables used:
------------
Yes

Testee:
-------
A.N. Eedjit

Music used:
-----------
DTTV live broadcast from Salzburg of Russia V Greece Group D Euro
2008 soccer match.

Test procedure :
---------------
1. The equipment was placed on a self assembly 4 shelf wire storage
rack purchased from local discount store.

2. Testee attempts to fix long standing ground loop hum problem by
rearranging rats nest of cables behind rack.

3. While attempting to move rack forward, testee becomes distracted
by superb Russian attack down the left wing causing him to trip over
coffee table and apply excessive horizontal tilt to rack causing
badly assembled item to begin to disintgrate.

4. Russia score!

5. Equipment under test is now about to achieve complete floor/kit
interface, this situation being deemed undesirable testee makes
desperate grab for aforementioned items.

6. Making a complete cock up of this he succeeds only in punching
them across room where they make contact with adjacent wall and then,
presumable under the influence of gravity, proceed rapidly in a
downward direction. At this point direction visual observation of
test equipment was discontinued due to testee being distracted by...

7. CD & MD which being still connect to test items are pulled from
remains of disintegrating rack and also achieve full floor/kit
conjunction status.

8. Testee then proceeds to make lengthy series of self deprecatory
remarks, then calms down and makes a nice cup of tea.

9. Soccer match ends, Russia 1 Greece 0.

10. Greece are out of the tournament. Rats.

Test session concluded.


Results
--------

Sound quality.
--------------

Denon: 3/10
The Denon was found to have a strong treble bias, the sound emitted
on striking both wall and floor could best be described as a
tinny rattly clang.

JVC: 6/10
The JVC was deeemed to have have a more balanced sound quality with
significantly more bass content overall but metalic overtones were
still a significant contributor to the sound quality.

CD/MD No significant aural differences were detected.


Durablity
---------

Denon 10/10

JVC 10/10

CD/MD 10/10

Rack 0/10

Minor dings and scratches were observed on all electrical components
but apre test all were fully functional.
The rack is a total write off.


Conclusion
-----------

Amplifiers do sound different.

Mini Disc's are identical to CD's


Proper equipment support is vital.

Greeks can't play footy


Note
----

Hum problem still present.

--
Ken

[Arny Krueger]

"UnsteadyKen" > wrote in message
m

> Today I conducted an impromptu listening test between a
> Denon DRA-345R receiver and a JVC A-X3 amplifier
> and heard clear and easily identifiable differences in
> the sound of each. These differences were so great that I
> am confident that in a properly conducted blind listening test I would be
> able to identify each component with a 100% success rate.

> There we have it, proof at last, amplifiers do sound
> different. Any questions?

Why would anybody have any questions? Obviously, you know it all. ;-)

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Arnii "**** for Dinner" Kroofeces is quite completely full of himself.

> > There we have it, proof at last, amplifiers do sound
> > different. Any questions?
>
> Why would anybody have any questions? Obviously, you know it all. ;-)

You left off an important qualifier, Turdy. You should have said "You know
all that's important to know about Arnii Krooger." Figuring out what you are
is a rite of passage for Normals on RAO. Ken may say he's unsteady, but he
came to an understanding of you fairly quickly.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Soundhaspriority said:

> >> I don't know that Arny is even reading this, let alone free to respond,
> >> but this is one way to find out.

> > Don't be coy. Out with it.

> Would you believe:
> On Monday, we'll learn that he was locked in the men's room in the church
> basement for three days.
>
> No? How about:
>
> After a lashing from Pastor Matt, he misbehaved in some fashion, and was
> picked up for a misdemeanor.
>
> But seriously, my mind can't help but spin with speculation. You said that
> Arny had been ordered not to leave town.

I said that? When?

> If that is true, there is only one reason: he was bailed.

Or on probation, or on parole. Unless you know he's never been convicted of
a crime.

> If he is going to stand trial, he may be reliant on
> character witnesses. This could give Pastor Matt exceptional leverage. Or,
> since there were simultaneous complaints by around four individuals, Pastor
> Matt could have given him a tongue lashing, with or without dire threats.

Yeah, that's real likely.

> We must remember that the mentally ill do not learn lessons well. Consider
> McCarty, who lost his ice cream business, and thinks he is revenging with
> trivial pranks. The mentally ill have lost, among other things, their sense
> of scale. So we have to allow the possibility that Arny will return at any
> time, bigger, badder, meaner.

Krooger seems to be fully in the grip of his dementia. That might be the
result of an increase in stress, but it could also be the normal rhythm of
his pathetic existence. Why don't you pick a horse in the Summer 2008
Kroodown Stakes?

[Clyde Slick]

On 14 Iun, 23:49, George M. Middius > wrote:

>
> Krooger seems to be fully in the grip of his dementia. That might be the
> result of an increase in stress, but it could also be the normal rhythm of
> his pathetic existence. Why don't you pick a horse in the Summer 2008
> Kroodown Stakes?

Preachinupastorm is running in the 6th at Arlington tomorrow.
Post time is moved up to about 10:30 AM.

[RapidRonnie]

>
> > > I favor the Tedious Remasters Comparo these days.
>
> > I think I hear the Obscureness Alarm.....
>
> Much of the discussion over at the stevehofmann.tv forums is given to
> comparing different masterings, usually in favor of old rare pressings
> available at collector's prices, and is useful for people who can't
> decide between the two disc or the three disc deluxe edition of "Piper
> At the Gates of Dawn".
>
> Don't ask about "Who's Next" or "Aja".

I abandoned Mr. Hoffman's forums when it became apparent he, or
someone under his ageis, was editing individual posts and entire
threads if they didn't agree with his notions. It was also apparent he
had nonexistent electronics skills yet would make elaborate
pronunciamentos, such as, " The McIntosh MC-60 is only any good if you
have NOS Tung-Sol 6550's. No other tube is any good for this
unit." (Anyone who knows anything about McIntosh tube amplifiers knows
they're the most tube-roller-proof units in existence, because of the
way multiple feedback loops are nested. )

[TT]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message ...

: You left off an important qualifier, Turdy. You should
have said "You know
: all that's important to know about Arnii Krooger."
Figuring out what you are
: is a rite of passage for Normals on RAO. Ken may say he's
unsteady, but he
: came to an understanding of you fairly quickly.
:
Now that is one of the most profound truisms I have ever
read here.

When I first started dropping in here I believed Arny was
reasonably knowledgeable but a little "prickly" due to some
of the very nasty things that were said about him.

I have now independently verified by non-blinded AKX testing
that he is more prick than prickly ;-)

[Clyde Slick]

On 15 Iun, 23:34, "TT" > wrote:


>
> I have now independently verified by non-blinded AKX testing
> that he is more prick than prickly ;-)

More important, he is more asshole than holy.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 15, 11:38*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 15 Iun, 23:34, "TT" > wrote:

> > I have now independently verified by non-blinded AKX testing
> > that he is more prick than prickly ;-)
>
> More important, he is more asshole than holy.

I wonder where the term "Holy ****!" came from.