New Telefunken mics

[Jenn[_2_]]

Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:

http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics

http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics

By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.

[TT]

"soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
>> everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
>> but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
>> trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
>> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
>> great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
>
> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
> the procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511
On special at Walmart? :-)) (Sorry Jenn, couldn't resist a little humour)

Cheers TT

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> Our recording program at the college just received two
> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> great Telefunkens:
>
> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics

Boutique items, for sure.

Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
students about performing, recording and producing music in the real world.

But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"soundhaspriority" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> > everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
> >
> > http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >
> > http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >
> > By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> > but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> > trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> > on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> > great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
>
> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine the
> procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?

We do receive some earmarked gifts. Our building was built largely from
gifts, and our new theater, to be completed in about a year, wouldn't be
possible without about a $1 million in gifts. But the studio upgrade,
taking place over the past year, is from categorical state funds we get
for job training programs. These are the same funds that help the
nursing and automotive programs, for example. We place a very high
percentage of students into jobs in the profession in L.A. and S.F.
This money has paid for upgrades to the studio this year, including
moving to the Digidesign D-Command, better mic preamps, a wider variety
of mics, etc. Our students get to work with great, current gear, which
makes them more employable. The studio also generates income, as they
hire our during holiday breaks and summer to area musicians to record
their things. There is a Platinum Record hanging in the studio, because
Rod Stewart's first CD of standards was mastered there. Ensembles from
other schools from S.F., L.A., Fresno, etc. also pay to come and record
their CDs. So like UCLA's basketball team supports the lacrosse team,
our recording program helps to support the smaller but very important
parts of our music program. For example, we are one of the few CA
community colleges who offer a full private lesson program and a new
chamber music program, both of which are expensive (because of the
student/teacher ratio), and both of which I run.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"TT" > wrote:

> "soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > om...
> >> Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> >> everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
> >>
> >> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >>
> >> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >>
> >> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> >> but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> >> trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> >> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> >> great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
> >
> > Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> > proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
> > the procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> > extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
> > there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
> >
> > Bob Morein
> > (310) 237-6511
> On special at Walmart? :-)) (Sorry Jenn, couldn't resist a little humour)
>
> Cheers TT

The mics were a "flashing light special" at KMart.

;-)

[No Name]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.
>
> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> world.
>
> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!

Can you imagine arriving at your recording venue with your new Telefunken
mikes and finding out that the guy who knows the combination of the suitcase
lock is out of town--or perhaps couldn't remember the combination?

Norm Strong

[[email protected]]

Which college?

Jenn > wrote:
: Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
: everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:

: http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics

: http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics

: By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
: but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
: trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
: on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
: great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
wrote:

> Which college?
>
> Jenn > wrote:
> : Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> : everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
>
> : http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> : http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> : By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> : but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> : trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> : on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> : great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.

Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 17, 8:11*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> m
>
> > Our recording program at the college just received two
> > new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> > great Telefunkens:
>
> >http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> >http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.

Telefunken microphones are not generally considered "boutique" items
any more than Neumann microphones are.

> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real world..

Maybe you should apply to teach at Jenn's school. I'm sure the kids
would love you.

And you no doubt have all the experience that they're looking for.
Say, why not apply? You don't have to accept the position if it is
offered to you and we could all use a good laugh.

> But hey, the new mics *have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!

Poor GOIA, having to record with microphones taken from old portable
cassette recorders!

Tube microphones are frequently used at top recording studios, GOIA.
Perhaps you should visit one sometime. LOL!

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> Which college?
>>
>> Jenn > wrote:
>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program.
>>> It's part time, but it's a great program and a
>>> wonderful opportunity for someone. The trick is living
>>> in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
>>> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it
>>> should be a great gig. Contact me offgroup if
>>> interested.
>
> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.

No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced toys.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 17, 4:55*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> t
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article >,
> > wrote:
>
> >> Which college?
>
> >> Jenn > wrote:
> >>> Our recording program at the college just received two
> >>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> >>> great Telefunkens:
>
> >>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> >>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> >>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program.
> >>> It's part time, but it's a great program and a
> >>> wonderful opportunity for someone. *The trick is living
> >>> in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> >>> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it
> >>> should be a great gig. *Contact me offgroup if
> >>> interested.
>
> > Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
>
> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced toys.

Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the same funds.

LOL! Do you know anything?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

More bellyaching from Arnii "I yam unappreciated" Krooborg.

>No money for staff - the[sic] spent it all on overpriced toys.

So that's the real reason you hate all the expensive stuff. You
fantasize that you'd be able to get a job in the audio business if only
somebody hadn't bought some expensive microphones.

Truly cold comfort for you, Turdy. Whatever gets you through your
"life"...

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 17, 5:06*pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> More bellyaching from Arnii "I yam unappreciated" Krooborg.
>
> >No money for staff - the[sic] spent it all on overpriced toys.
>
> So that's the real reason you hate all the expensive stuff. You
> fantasize that you'd be able to get a job in the audio business if only
> somebody hadn't bought some expensive microphones.
>
> Truly cold comfort for you, Turdy. Whatever gets you through your
> "life"...

In an insane world, budget meetings at businesses or schools sound
like this:

"So, should we hire faculty, or should we buy some new equipment?"

"We just bought some new equipment, so hiring faculty is out."

"We have $30,000 left from our microphone fund, so perhaps we should
use that to hire someone."

"OK, let's do that! There's a guy on rec.audio.opinion who klaims to
be able to make really good recordings with leftover microphones,
baling wire and chewing gum. Let's give him a call!"

Poor GOIA. The world he inhabits does not exist.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 17, 5:06 pm, George M. Middius
> > wrote:
>> More bellyaching from Arnii "I yam unappreciated"
>> Krooborg.
>>
>>> No money for staff - the[sic] spent it all on
>>> overpriced toys.
>>
>> So that's the real reason you hate all the expensive
>> stuff. You fantasize that you'd be able to get a job in
>> the audio business if only somebody hadn't bought some
>> expensive microphones.
>>
>> Truly cold comfort for you, Turdy. Whatever gets you
>> through your "life"...
>
> In an insane world, budget meetings at businesses or
> schools sound like this:

> "So, should we hire faculty, or should we buy some new
> equipment?"

More common than you seem to be able to understand.

> "We just bought some new equipment, so hiring faculty is
> out."

Again, something that definately happens.

> "We have $30,000 left from our microphone fund, so
> perhaps we should use that to hire someone."

Nobody is that crass, and in fact the idea of a microphone fund (as opposed
to say a capital improvements budget) is insane all by itself.

> "OK, let's do that! There's a guy on rec.audio.opinion
> who klaims to be able to make really good recordings with
> leftover microphones, baling wire and chewing gum. Let's
> give him a call!"

Now you're really talking trash, ****R. True to form and as insane as
always.

> Poor GOIA. The world he inhabits does not exist.

That's because the world you're talking about ****R is one of your own
creation.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 17, 4:55 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Which college?
>>
>>>> Jenn > wrote:
>>>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>>>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics
>>>>> are great Telefunkens:
>>
>>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>>>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program.
>>>>> It's part time, but it's a great program and a
>>>>> wonderful opportunity for someone. The trick is living
>>>>> in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central
>>>>> Coast) on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement
>>>>> that, it should be a great gig. Contact me offgroup if
>>>>> interested.

>>> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.

>> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced toys.

> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the
> same funds.

No the staffing budget obviously comes from Arizona! ;-)

> LOL! Do you know anything?

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Soundhaspriority" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >> .
> >> com
> >> ...
> >> > Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> >> > everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >> >
> >> > http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >> >
> >> > By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> >> > but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> >> > trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> >> > on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> >> > great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
> >>
> >> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> >> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
> >> the
> >> procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> >> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or
> >> is
> >> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
> >
> > We do receive some earmarked gifts. Our building was built largely from
> > gifts, and our new theater, to be completed in about a year, wouldn't be
> > possible without about a $1 million in gifts. But the studio upgrade,
> > taking place over the past year, is from categorical state funds we get
> > for job training programs. These are the same funds that help the
> > nursing and automotive programs, for example. We place a very high
> > percentage of students into jobs in the profession in L.A. and S.F.
> > This money has paid for upgrades to the studio this year, including
> > moving to the Digidesign D-Command, better mic preamps, a wider variety
> > of mics, etc. Our students get to work with great, current gear, which
> > makes them more employable. The studio also generates income, as they
> > hire our during holiday breaks and summer to area musicians to record
> > their things. There is a Platinum Record hanging in the studio, because
> > Rod Stewart's first CD of standards was mastered there. Ensembles from
> > other schools from S.F., L.A., Fresno, etc. also pay to come and record
> > their CDs. So like UCLA's basketball team supports the lacrosse team,
> > our recording program helps to support the smaller but very important
> > parts of our music program. For example, we are one of the few CA
> > community colleges who offer a full private lesson program and a new
> > chamber music program, both of which are expensive (because of the
> > student/teacher ratio), and both of which I run.
>
> Thanks for the info. It makes perfect sense, in terms of furthering
> students' professional goals. But I am still curious. Were the Telefunkens
> basically one faculty member's choice, or did you have a "mike committee"?

One faculty member's choice. We have only one full time faculty in the
recording program. He is also the Chair of the Division, until this
summer when I assume that position.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Apr 17, 4:55*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> > et
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> Which college?
> >
> > >> Jenn > wrote:
> > >>> Our recording program at the college just received two
> > >>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> > >>> great Telefunkens:
> >
> > >>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >
> > >>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >
> > >>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program.
> > >>> It's part time, but it's a great program and a
> > >>> wonderful opportunity for someone. *The trick is living
> > >>> in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> > >>> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it
> > >>> should be a great gig. *Contact me offgroup if
> > >>> interested.
> >
> > > Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
> >
> > No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced toys.
>
> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the same funds.

Some people believe that they are experts on how schools are funded,
because they once attended some schools. The truth is, of course, that
the state funds its institutions via categories. We don't simply
receive a hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I think that most
people probably understand that.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.
>
> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> world.
>
> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>

Congratulations Jenn on a fine acquisition.

Iain

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 17, 6:00*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 5:06 pm, George M. Middius
> > > wrote:
> >> More bellyaching from Arnii "I yam unappreciated"
> >> Krooborg.
>
> >>> No money for staff - the[sic] spent it all on
> >>> overpriced toys.
>
> >> So that's the real reason you hate all the expensive
> >> stuff. You fantasize that you'd be able to get a job in
> >> the audio business if only somebody hadn't bought some
> >> expensive microphones.
>
> >> Truly cold comfort for you, Turdy. Whatever gets you
> >> through your "life"...
>
> > In an insane world, budget meetings at businesses or
> > schools sound like this:
> > "So, should we hire faculty, or should we buy some new
> > equipment?"
>
> More common than you seem to be able to understand.

Then those businesses are not well-run. Can it happen? Sure, if GOIA
is the CEO... LOL!

> > "We just bought some new equipment, so hiring faculty is
> > out."
>
> Again, something that definately happens.

Not the same budgets, GOIA. Schools offering positions are not pulling
those funds out of improvement funds, like you indicated (insanely).

> > "We have $30,000 left from our microphone fund, so
> > perhaps we should use that to hire someone."
>
> Nobody is that crass, and in fact the idea of a microphone fund (as opposed
> to say a capital improvements budget) is insane all by itself.

I'm poking fun at your insanity, GOIA. You were the one that brought
it up.

> > "OK, let's do that! There's a guy on rec.audio.opinion
> > who klaims to be able to make really good recordings with
> > leftover microphones, baling wire and chewing gum. Let's
> > give him a call!"
>
> Now you're really talking trash, ****R. True to form and as insane as
> always.

I know. You can't record for ****. And nobody would call you.

> > Poor GOIA. The world he inhabits does not exist.
>
> That's because the world you're talking about ****R is *one of your own
> creation.

Poor GOIA. He thinks his world is reality.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 17, 6:01*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 4:55 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> In article >,
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> Which college?
>
> >>>> Jenn > wrote:
> >>>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
> >>>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics
> >>>>> are great Telefunkens:
>
> >>>>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> >>>>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> >>>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program.
> >>>>> It's part time, but it's a great program and a
> >>>>> wonderful opportunity for someone. The trick is living
> >>>>> in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central
> >>>>> Coast) on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement
> >>>>> that, it should be a great gig. Contact me offgroup if
> >>>>> interested.
> >>> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
> >> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced toys.
> > Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the
> > same funds.
>
> No the staffing budget obviously comes from Arizona! ;-)

Obviously.

> > LOL! Do you know anything?

Thank you for your tacit agreement that you don't.

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Apr, 02:11, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Â*"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 4:55�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >
> > > et
>
> > > > In article >,
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> Which college?
>
> > > >> Jenn > wrote:
> > > >>> Our recording program at the college just received two
> > > >>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> > > >>> great Telefunkens:
>
> > > >>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> > > >>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> > > >>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program.
> > > >>> It's part time, but it's a great program and a
> > > >>> wonderful opportunity for someone. �The trick is living
> > > >>> in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> > > >>> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it
> > > >>> should be a great gig. �Contact me offgroup if
> > > >>> interested.
>
> > > > Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
>
> > > No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced toys.
>
> > Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the same funds.
>
> Some people believe that they are experts on how schools are funded,
> because they once attended some schools. Â*The truth is, of course, that
> the state funds its institutions via categories. Â*We don't simply
> receive a hunk of money to spend as we see fit. Â*I think that most
> people probably understand that.- Ascunde citatul -
>

You mean that most 'sane' people would think that.

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Apr, 03:22, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >> Our recording program at the college just received two
> >> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> >> great Telefunkens:
>
> >>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> >>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> > Boutique items, for sure.
>
> > Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> > students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> > world.
>
> > But hey, the new mics *have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> > must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>
> Congratulations Jenn on a fine acquisition.
>

How true, that was a highly polished Kroo-turd.

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 18 Apr, 02:11, Jenn >
> wrote:
>> In article
>> >,
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 4:55?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>> message
>>
>>>>
>>>> et
>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Which college?
>>
>>>>>> Jenn > wrote:
>>>>>>> Our recording program at the college just received
>>>>>>> two new mics and everyone is very excited. The new
>>>>>>> mics are great Telefunkens:
>>
>>>>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>>>>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>>>>>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the
>>>>>>> program. It's part time, but it's a great program
>>>>>>> and a wonderful opportunity for someone. ?The trick
>>>>>>> is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA
>>>>>>> Central Coast) on about $30,000/yr, but if you can
>>>>>>> supplement that, it should be a great gig. ?Contact
>>>>>>> me offgroup if interested.
>>
>>>>> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
>>
>>>> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced
>>>> toys.
>>
>>> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the
>>> same funds.
>>
>> Some people believe that they are experts on how schools
>> are funded, because they once attended some schools. The
>> truth is, of course, that the state funds its
>> institutions via categories. We don't simply receive a
>> hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I think that most
>> people probably understand that.- Ascunde citatul -
>>
>
> You mean that most 'sane' people would think that.

Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known idiots like the
Middiot, ****R, and Art.

The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on other newsgroups. The
majority of people on those other groups who are crazy like me recognize the
Middiot and his posse for the fools they are. The results aren't pretty.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

>Some people believe that they are experts on how schools are funded,
>because they once attended some schools. The truth is, of course, that
>the state funds its institutions via categories. We don't simply
>receive a hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I think that most
>people probably understand that.

The Krooborg isn't going to just take your word for it. As you know, the
standard of proof in the "debating trade" far exceeds that of ordinary
conversation, or even business discussions. Except when Mister Krooborg
is the one making a klaim, of course. In that case, Turdy can "work
over" the opposition by asserting that you are "lying".

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

>> > "We just bought some new equipment, so hiring faculty is
>> > out."
>>
>> Again, something that definately[sic] happens.
>
>Not the same budgets, GOIA. Schools offering positions are not pulling
>those funds out of improvement funds, like you indicated (insanely).

Did Krooger ever explain the point of reference on which he bases his
klaims? I'm sure the rules are different when your "business" is fixing
computers in your basement and your entire marketing effort is passing
out flyers at your church.

[Harry Lavo]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.
>
> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> world.
>
> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>

Ah, envy raises it's head in Arny's life once again. We will now be
subjected to a month of off- and on- again posts about Behringer and Studio
Project mics being are just as good, and why all mics above $400 are evil
wastes of money.....especially those using....*gasp*.....tubes.

[Arny Krueger]

"Harry Lavo" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>>> great Telefunkens:
>>>
>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>>
>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>> Boutique items, for sure.

>> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the
>> expense to teach students about performing, recording
>> and producing music in the real world.

>> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a
>> fancy name, and that must ring some deep-pocketed
>> dilettante's bell!

> Ah, envy raises it's head in Arny's life once again.

Interesting how Harry sees only vice in my comments.

> We will now be subjected to a month of off- and on- again
> posts about Behringer and Studio Project mics being are
> just as good,

Surely you jest.

> and why all mics above $400 are evil wastes of money.

Hmm, I just bought 4 mics with list prices of $488.50 each.

http://www.countryman.com/store/product.asp?id=92&catid=10

>....especially those using....*gasp*.....tubes.

In their way my new mics have tubes - but you'd have to see them to
understand. ;-)

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Apr, 09:02, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> The
> majority of people on those other groups who are crazy like me


misery loves company.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 8:02*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 18 Apr, 02:11, Jenn >
> > wrote:
> >> In article
> >> >,
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 17, 4:55?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >>>> message
>
>
> >>>> et
>
> >>>>> In article >,
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Which college?
>
> >>>>>> Jenn > wrote:
> >>>>>>> Our recording program at the college just received
> >>>>>>> two new mics and everyone is very excited. The new
> >>>>>>> mics are great Telefunkens:
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> >>>>>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the
> >>>>>>> program. It's part time, but it's a great program
> >>>>>>> and a wonderful opportunity for someone. ?The trick
> >>>>>>> is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA
> >>>>>>> Central Coast) on about $30,000/yr, but if you can
> >>>>>>> supplement that, it should be a great gig. ?Contact
> >>>>>>> me offgroup if interested.
>
> >>>>> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
>
> >>>> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced
> >>>> toys.
>
> >>> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the
> >>> same funds.
>
> >> Some people believe that they are experts on how schools
> >> are funded, because they once attended some schools. The
> >> truth is, of course, that the state funds its
> >> institutions via categories. We don't simply receive a
> >> hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I think that most
> >> people probably understand that.
>
> > You mean that most 'sane' people would think that.
>
> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known idiots like the
> Middiot, ****R, and Art.

Yes, GOIA, we well-known idiots assert that the funds businesses or
schools use for equipment are typically from different budgets or cost
centers or funds than those used for staff. What a bizarro thought!
How insane of us!

We bow before your keen business 'acumen'. LOL!

> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on other newsgroups. The
> majority of people on those other groups who are crazy like me recognize the
> Middiot and his posse for *the fools they are. The results aren't pretty..

Ah, the "I'm an exalted 'expert' on groups where people know what's
going on, but I'm not considered an exalted 'expert' here. They're all
crazy!" argument. We haven't seen this one in well over a week. Are
you ill?

I've seen some of the results of your intrusions into groups where the
people are professionals and not hobbyists. The results in those
groups are that you typically get your ass kicked. Then you come back
to RAO and use the "I'm an exalted 'expert' on groups where people
know what's going on, but I'm not considered an exalted 'expert' here.
They're all crazy!" argument. LOL!

That is always a pretty sight. ;-)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 8:56*am, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Shhhh! said:
>
> >> > "We just bought some new equipment, so hiring faculty is
> >> > out."
>
> >> Again, something that definately[sic] happens.
>
> >Not the same budgets, GOIA. Schools offering positions are not pulling
> >those funds out of improvement funds, like you indicated (insanely).
>
> Did Krooger ever explain the point of reference on which he bases his
> klaims? I'm sure the rules are different when your "business" is fixing
> computers in your basement and your entire marketing effort is passing
> out flyers at your church.

I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most of his recording
as a volunteer. He'd like to hire someone, but since all of his money
goes into equipment that he has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire
anybody.

Apparently he assumes that all businesses or schools operate like that.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 18 Apr, 02:11, Jenn >
>>> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> >,
>>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Apr 17, 4:55?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> et
>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Which college?
>>
>>>>>>>> Jenn > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Our recording program at the college just received
>>>>>>>>> two new mics and everyone is very excited. The new
>>>>>>>>> mics are great Telefunkens:
>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the
>>>>>>>>> program. It's part time, but it's a great program
>>>>>>>>> and a wonderful opportunity for someone. ?The
>>>>>>>>> trick is living in this beautiful but expensive
>>>>>>>>> area (CA Central Coast) on about $30,000/yr, but
>>>>>>>>> if you can supplement that, it should be a great
>>>>>>>>> gig. ?Contact me offgroup if interested.
>>
>>>>>>> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
>>
>>>>>> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced
>>>>>> toys.
>>
>>>>> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from
>>>>> the same funds.
>>
>>>> Some people believe that they are experts on how
>>>> schools are funded, because they once attended some
>>>> schools. The truth is, of course, that the state funds
>>>> its institutions via categories. We don't simply
>>>> receive a hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I
>>>> think that most people probably understand that.
>>
>>> You mean that most 'sane' people would think that.
>>
>> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known
>> idiots like the Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>
> Yes, GOIA, we well-known idiots assert that the funds
> businesses or
> schools use for equipment are typically from different
> budgets or cost
> centers or funds than those used for staff. What a
> bizarro thought!
> How insane of us!

Insanely huge excluded-middle argument noted.


>> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on
>> other newsgroups. The majority of people on those other
>> groups who are crazy like me recognize the Middiot and
>> his posse for the fools they are. The results aren't
>> pretty.

> Ah, the "I'm an exalted 'expert' on groups where people
> know what's
> going on, but I'm not considered an exalted 'expert'
> here. They're all crazy!" argument. We haven't seen this one in well over
> a
> week. Are you ill?

Insanely huge lack of self-awareness noted.

> I've seen some of the results of your intrusions into
> groups where the people are professionals and not hobbyists.

****R, I see the result of your intrusion into groups where the people are
hobbyists - utter insanity.

>The results in those
> groups are that you typically get your ass kicked.

Funny, the complaints I read say that I'm kicking their butts way too hard
for their comfort, and thus must not be much of a Christian. If they'd play
nice, we'd all be happy.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message


> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most of
> his recording as a volunteer.

Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only about 10% of my annual
production of recordings as a volunteer.

> He'd like to hire someone,
> but since all of his money goes into equipment that he
> has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire anybody.

The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4 years, was paid for the
first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial equipment, list price
in the $3-400 range.

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Apr, 20:11, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:


>
> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4 years, was paid for the
> first day or two I owned it. *I'm talking non-trivial equipment, list price
> in the $3-400 range.


Its good to have a wife who pays your bills.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 7:06*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> On 18 Apr, 02:11, Jenn >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> In article
> >>>> >,
> >>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >>>> > wrote:

> >>>>> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from
> >>>>> the same funds.
>
> >>>> Some people believe that they are experts on how
> >>>> schools are funded, because they once attended some
> >>>> schools. The truth is, of course, that the state funds
> >>>> its institutions via categories. We don't simply
> >>>> receive a hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I
> >>>> think that most people probably understand that.
>
> >>> You mean that most 'sane' people would think that.
>
> >> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known
> >> idiots like the Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>
> > Yes, GOIA, we well-known idiots assert that the funds
> > businesses or
> > schools use for equipment are typically from different
> > budgets or cost
> > centers or funds than those used for staff. What a
> > bizarro thought!
> > How insane of us!
>
> Insanely huge excluded-middle argument noted.

Your claim wa that Jenn's school could not afford staff because of
microphone purchases. Are you now back-pedaling? LOL!

Speaking of "insanity"...

> >> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on
> >> other newsgroups. The majority of people on those other
> >> groups who are crazy like me recognize the Middiot and
> >> his posse for the fools they are. The results aren't
> >> pretty.
> > Ah, the "I'm an exalted 'expert' on groups where people
> > know what's
> > going on, but I'm not considered an exalted 'expert'
> > here. They're all *crazy!" argument. We haven't seen this one in well over
> > a
> > week. Are *you ill?
>
> Insanely huge lack of self-awareness noted.

Where have I ever said that I'm an expert at audio? And what other
groups do I post to? LOL!

You see things that aren't there. As I've said.

Now if you'd like to discuss areas that I am expert in, such as the
military, fire away.

> > I've seen some of the results of your intrusions into
> > groups where the *people are professionals and not hobbyists.
>
> ****R, I see the result of your intrusion into groups where the people are
> hobbyists - utter insanity.

We're nearing your magical 1,000,000th IKYABWAI regardless of the
accounting system. ;-(

> >The results *in those
> > groups are that you typically get your ass kicked.
>
> Funny, the complaints I read say that I'm kicking their butts way too hard
> for their comfort, and thus must not be much of a Christian. If they'd play
> nice, we'd all be happy.

You usually see things that aren't there.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 7:11*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most of
> > his recording as a volunteer.
>
> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only about 10% of my annual
> production of recordings as a volunteer.

And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for high school
band festivals.

Big deal.

Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr. Prffeshunal Rekordist?
I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what titles to purchase.

> > He'd like to hire someone,
> > but since all of his money goes into equipment that he
> > has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire anybody.
>
> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4 years, was paid for the
> first day or two I owned it. *I'm talking non-trivial equipment, list price
> in the $3-400 range.

$3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!

Now about those published titles... LOL!

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message



> You usually see things that aren't there.

Yes, I saw things like the failure of SACD and DVD-A to advance sound
quality, many years back. I predicted their failure in the marketplace.
Those things were all figments of my imagination, and today SACD and DVD-A
dominate the marketplace for musical recordings. ;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 18, 7:11 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>> wrote in
>>
>>
>>> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most of
>>> his recording as a volunteer.

>> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only about
>> 10% of my annual production of recordings as a volunteer.

> And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
> high school band festivals.

Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate, and it isn't low.

> Big deal.

You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't stop you from running
off your mouth like the fool you are.

> Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
> Prffeshunal Rekordist?

They are the property of the respective musical groups.

> I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what titles
> to purchase.

Only in your dreams, ****R, You don't seem to have a clue about this segment
of the marketplace.

>>> He'd like to hire someone,
>>> but since all of his money goes into equipment that he
>>> has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire anybody.

>> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4
>> years, was paid for the
>> first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial
>> equipment, list price
>> in the $3-400 range.

> $3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!

Given that you think that spending $7K for an obsolete microphone is a wise
move for a small regional college, you're just piling Insanity on top of
errors.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 11:45*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > You usually see things that aren't there.
>
> Yes, I saw things like the failure of SACD and DVD-A to advance sound
> quality, many years back. I predicted their failure in the marketplace.
> Those things were all figments of my imagination, and today SACD and DVD-A
> dominate the marketplace for musical recordings. ;-)

No, GOIA, that's insane.

MP3s and MP3 players do. They're what has "advanced sound quality".

Are you crazy? (<---rhetorical question) LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 11:50*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > On Apr 18, 7:11 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> >> wrote in
> >>
>
> >>> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most of
> >>> his recording as a volunteer.
> >> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only about
> >> 10% of my annual production of recordings as a volunteer.
> > And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
> > high school *band festivals.
>
> Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate, and it isn't low.

So you say.

> > Big deal.
>
> You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't stop you from running
> off your mouth like the fool you are.

No, GOIA, we all know what you are. A "professional recording
engineer" isn't it.

> > Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
> > Prffeshunal Rekordist?
>
> They are the property of the respective musical groups.

So where can I get one, GOIA? Which groups? How many of them are
professional? Which high schools? LOL!

> > I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what titles
> > to purchase.
>
> Only in your dreams, ****R, You don't seem to have a clue about this segment
> of the marketplace.

Yes, GOIA, I "dream" of owning one of your "recordings". Yet they are
unknown, the property of the high schools who pay you such high sums.
LOL!

> >>> He'd like to hire someone,
> >>> but since all of his money goes into equipment that he
> >>> has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire anybody.
> >> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4
> >> years, was paid for the
> >> first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial
> >> equipment, list price
> >> in the $3-400 range.
> > $3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!
>
> Given that you think that spending $7K for an obsolete microphone is a wise
> move for a small regional college, you're just piling Insanity on top of
> errors.

Why are you making things up, GOIA? I never said anything was "wise"
or "good" or "bad". I merely called "bull****" on you when you made
the claim that the microphone purchase came out of funds for faculty.
Only a nut would think that, or someone utterly clueless about
budgeting processes. Also, calling Telefunken microphones "obsolete"
shows how ignorant truly you are. They are no more obsolete than a
1959 Stratocaster.

Finally, $300-400 equipment is not considered a big deal at even the
smallest of businesses. It costs more than that to maintain some of
the equipment I use in mine. Only you would look at that as a large
sum. LOL!

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 18, 11:45 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>> wrote in
>>
>>
>>> You usually see things that aren't there.
>>
>> Yes, I saw things like the failure of SACD and DVD-A to
>> advance sound
>> quality, many years back. I predicted their failure in
>> the marketplace.

>> Those things were all figments of my imagination, and
>> today SACD and DVD-A
>> dominate the marketplace for musical recordings. ;-)

> No, GOIA, that's insane.

Wrong, it was sarcasm.

> MP3s and MP3 players do. They're what has "advanced sound
> quality".

That's sarcasm, too.

> Are you crazy? (<---rhetorical question) LOL!

Crazy people can't see the difference between sarcasm and actuality. Thanks
for indicting yourself ****R, again.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 18, 11:50 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>> wrote in
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 18, 7:11 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>>>> > wrote in
>>>>
>>
>>>>> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most
>>>>> of his recording as a volunteer.
>>>> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only
>>>> about 10% of my annual production of recordings as a
>>>> volunteer.
>>> And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
>>> high school band festivals.
>>
>> Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate, and
>> it isn't low.

> So you say.

So you say.

>>> Big deal.

>> You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't
>> stop you from running off your mouth like the fool you are.

> No, GOIA, we all know what you are. A "professional
> recording engineer" isn't it.

So you say.

>>> Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
>>> Prffeshunal Rekordist?
>>
>> They are the property of the respective musical groups.

> So where can I get one, GOIA? Which groups? How many of
> them are professional? Which high schools? LOL!

As if you'd buy one if you could, ****R. LOL!

>>> I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what titles
>>> to purchase.

>> Only in your dreams, ****R, You don't seem to have a
>> clue about this segment
>> of the marketplace.

> Yes, GOIA, I "dream" of owning one of your "recordings".

So you say.

> Yet they are
> unknown, the property of the high schools who pay you
> such high sums.

Not high sums, just the going rate for professional services.


>>>>> He'd like to hire someone,
>>>>> but since all of his money goes into equipment that he
>>>>> has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire anybody.
>>>> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4
>>>> years, was paid for the
>>>> first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial
>>>> equipment, list price
>>>> in the $3-400 range.
>>> $3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!

>> Given that you think that spending $7K for an obsolete
>> microphone is a wise
>> move for a small regional college, you're just piling
>> Insanity on top of
>> errors.

> Why are you making things up, GOIA? I never said anything
> was "wise" or "good" or "bad".

Sure you did - you said that since the money came from a different budget
than staffing, it was money well spent.

> I merely called "bull****" on you
> when you made the claim that the microphone purchase came out of funds
> for faculty.

So, so the faculty at a state school aren't funded by the state?
Or, is it the capital expenses that aren't funded by the state?

And the state doesn't obtain the money for both from its budget?

The state's budget isn't all the same funds?

And the state's budget isn't funded by taxes?

Is that what you are trying to say, ****R?

That's nuts!

> Only a nut would think that, or someone utterly clueless
> about budgeting processes.

Well ****R you seem to think that faculty expenses are wholly separate from
capital expenses, and that's nuts!

> Also, calling Telefunken microphones "obsolete"
> shows how ignorant truly you are. They are no more
> obsolete than a 1959 Stratocaster.

So ****R, are you suggesting that Jen's school buy each of its freshmen in
the music program 1959 Stratocasters to practice on?

Now that's insane!

> Finally, $300-400 equipment is not considered a big deal
> at even the smallest of businesses. It costs more than that to
> maintain some of the equipment I use in mine.

So you say.

BTW what is your business, ****R?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 5:53*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 11:45 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> >> wrote in
> >>
>
> >>> You usually see things that aren't there.
>
> >> Yes, I saw things like the failure of SACD and DVD-A to
> >> advance sound
> >> quality, many years back. I predicted their failure in
> >> the marketplace.
> >> Those things were all figments of my imagination, and
> >> today SACD and DVD-A
> >> dominate the marketplace for musical recordings. ;-)
> > No, GOIA, that's insane.
>
> Wrong, it was sarcasm.

You really are crazy. LOL!

> > MP3s and MP3 players do. They're what has "advanced sound
> > quality".
>
> That's sarcasm, too.

What, the public chose a format that wasn't an "advancement in sound
quality"? The market has spoken!

> > Are you crazy? (<---rhetorical question) LOL!
>
> Crazy people can't see the difference between sarcasm and actuality. Thanks
> for indicting yourself ****R, again.

I have a DSM-IV. That's nowhere in the definition. I think you're
making **** up.

That's the sign of a crazy person, GOIA. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 6:08*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> >>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

>
> >>>>> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does most
> >>>>> of his recording as a volunteer.
> >>>> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only
> >>>> about 10% of my annual production of recordings as a
> >>>> volunteer.
> >>> And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
> >>> high school band festivals.
>
> >> Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate, and
> >> it isn't low.
> > So you say.
>
> So you say.

Now this type of behavior *is* in the DSM-IV, GOIA.

> >>> Big deal.
> >> You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't
> >> stop you from running *off your mouth like the fool you are.
> > No, GOIA, we all know what you are. A "professional
> > recording *engineer" isn't it.
>
> So you say.

This is a condition called "immediate echolalia". Usually it appears
in autistic children or those with pervasive developmental disorders.

> >>> Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
> >>> Prffeshunal Rekordist?
>
> >> They are the property of the respective musical groups.
> > So where can I get one, GOIA? Which groups? How many of
> > them are *professional? Which high schools? LOL!
>
> As if you'd buy one if you could, ****R. LOL!

I said I would. I'd enjoy hearing the fruits of your professional
efforts. I like high school bands. So where can I get one of your
recordings which are obviously highly-sought-after, since you are so
richly compensated? You know, one where you're actually credited?

> >>> I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what titles
> >>> to purchase.
> >> Only in your dreams, ****R, You don't seem to have a
> >> clue about this segment
> >> of the marketplace.
> > Yes, GOIA, I "dream" of owning one of your "recordings".
>
> So you say.

This behavior of yours would not be a concern, except that you're
allgedly an adult and that you claim to be normal. It normally occurs
in children, or as I said, in those with some disorder.

> > Yet they are
> > unknown, the property of the high schools who pay you
> > such high sums.
>
> Not high sums, just the going rate for professional services.

So you get union scale? I doubt that very much.

> >>>>> He'd like to hire someone,
> >>>>> but since all of his money goes into equipment that he
> >>>>> has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire anybody.
> >>>> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4
> >>>> years, was paid for the
> >>>> first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial
> >>>> equipment, list price
> >>>> in the $3-400 range.
> >>> $3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!
> >> Given that you think that spending $7K for an obsolete
> >> microphone is a wise
> >> move for a small regional college, you're just piling
> >> Insanity on top of
> >> errors.
> > Why are you making things up, GOIA? I never said anything
> > was "wise" or "good" or "bad".
>
> Sure you did - you said that since the money came from a different budget
> than staffing, it was money well spent.

Please show the quote. I said no such thing.

Insanity causes things like these hallucinations of yours and your
echolalia... LOL!

> > I merely called "bull****" on you
> > when you made *the claim that the microphone purchase came out of funds
> > for faculty.
>
> So, so the faculty at a state school aren't funded by the state?
> Or, is it the capital expenses that aren't funded by the state?

And what new insanity is this? An inability to understand the printed
word? LMAO! And what has this to do with anything? LOL! LOL!

Let's see how far GOIA can parse this to try to not look so stupid:

> And the state doesn't obtain the money for both from its budget?
>
> The state's budget isn't *all the same funds?
>
> And the state's budget isn't funded by taxes?
>
> Is that what you are trying to say, ****R?

You forgot: "And that the money isn't printed from the Federal
Government, who also provide education funds to the states?" "And that
these government facilities aren't paid for by taxes?"

> That's nuts!

LOL! There, there, GOIA, everything is going to be all right. Whatever
shortfall the microphones caused to the state budget will no doubt be
made up from highway or health care or administrative funds.

> > Only a nut would think that, or someone utterly clueless
> > about *budgeting processes.
>
> Well ****R you seem to think that faculty expenses are wholly separate from
> capital expenses, and that's nuts!

Um, we'll see.

You live in Detroit. You'd better tell that to the Big Three. I'll bet
they think they have different cost centers! I'll bet those fools
retool plants out of a different budget than salaries come from!

You need to train them. Pronto.

Let's see what the IRS has to say, GOIA:

Capital Expenses

You must capitalize, rather than deduct, some costs. These costs are a
part of your investment in your business and are called capital
expenses. Capital expenses are considered assets in your
business.There are, in general, three types of costs you capitalize.

Business start-up cost (See the note below)
Business assets
Improvements

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=109807,00.html

NOTE TO GOIA: Employee expenses (salaries, etc.) are in a different
category. Go look and see.

Let's see the legal definition, Oh Insane One:

capital expenditure n. payment by a business for basic assets such as
property, fixtures, or machinery, but not for day-to-day operations
such as payroll, inventory, maintenance and advertising. Capital
expenditures supposedly increase the value of company assets and are
usually intended to improve productivity.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Capital+expenses

Or, GOIA, how about a definition for investors? LMAO!

capital expenditure
Definition

Money spent to acquire or upgrade physical assets such as buildings
and machinery. also called capital spending or capital expense.

http://www.investorwords.com/703/capital_expenditure.html

The world you inhabit does not exist except in your addled brain. And
you obviously don't know **** about business.

> > Also, calling Telefunken microphones "obsolete"
> > shows how ignorant truly you are. They are no more
> > obsolete than a *1959 Stratocaster.
>
> So ****R, *are you suggesting that Jen's school buy each of its freshmen in
> the music program 1959 Stratocasters to practice on?
>
> Now that's insane!

Wow! Did Jenn's school buy a new Telefunken Microphone for each of
their freshmen? If they did, that's just crazy!

Or if they didn't, then making this ridiculous and insane argument of
yours is! LOL!

> > Finally, $300-400 equipment is not considered a big deal
> > at even the *smallest of businesses. It costs more than that to
> > maintain some of *the equipment I use in mine.
>
> So you say.

LOL! I suppose you break point for "non-trivial" expenses is .05 for a
pencil. What a moron!

> BTW what is your business, ****R?

It's not audio-related, GOIA. But I suggest, if you don't believe that
$300-400 equipment is not a big deal to most, that you go out and talk
to a few. A ladder for a handyman can cost this much. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 8:53*am, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Jenn said:
>
> >Some people believe that they are experts on how schools are funded,
> >because they once attended some schools. *The truth is, of course, that
> >the state funds its institutions via categories. *We don't simply
> >receive a hunk of money to spend as we see fit. *I think that most
> >people probably understand that.
>
> The Krooborg isn't going to just take your word for it. As you know, the
> standard of proof in the "debating trade" far exceeds that of ordinary
> conversation, or even business discussions. Except when Mister Krooborg
> is the one making a klaim, of course. In that case, Turdy can "work
> over" the opposition by asserting that you are "lying".

As we've now seen, in GOIA's mind the funds are the same because they
come from taxes. Poor GOIA! He;ll do *anything* or say *anything* to
try to be right. LOL!

The debating trade. It doesn't follow conventional rules of logic, nor
conventional rules of sanity. Poor Mrs. Krooborg. She's probably like
the Marine Colonel's wife in American Beauty, a whimpering shell of a
woman just waiting for her opportunity to help one of her kids break
free of his influence.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Apr, 00:50, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> > And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
> > high school *band festivals.
>
> Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate, and it isn't low.
>


How true. It isn't ANYTHING.


> > Big deal.
>
> You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't stop you from running
> off your mouth like the fool you are.
>
> > Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
> > Prffeshunal Rekordist?
>
> They are the property of the respective musical groups.
>
More likeky, they are the property of
the county landfill.

[MINe109]

On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 18 Apr, 02:11, Jenn >
> > wrote:
> >> In article
> >> >,
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 17, 4:55?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >>>> message
>
>
> >>>> et
>
> >>>>> In article >,
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Which college?
>
> >>>>>> Jenn > wrote:
> >>>>>>> Our recording program at the college just received
> >>>>>>> two new mics and everyone is very excited. The new
> >>>>>>> mics are great Telefunkens:
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> >>>>>>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the
> >>>>>>> program. It's part time, but it's a great program
> >>>>>>> and a wonderful opportunity for someone. ?The trick
> >>>>>>> is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA
> >>>>>>> Central Coast) on about $30,000/yr, but if you can
> >>>>>>> supplement that, it should be a great gig. ?Contact
> >>>>>>> me offgroup if interested.
>
> >>>>> Cuesta College, San Luis Obispo.
>
> >>>> No money for staff - the spent it all on overpriced
> >>>> toys.
>
> >>> Yes, GOIA, I'm sure the budget for staff comes from the
> >>> same funds.
>
> >> Some people believe that they are experts on how schools
> >> are funded, because they once attended some schools. The
> >> truth is, of course, that the state funds its
> >> institutions via categories. We don't simply receive a
> >> hunk of money to spend as we see fit. I think that most
> >> people probably understand that.- Ascunde citatul -
>
> > You mean that most 'sane' people would think that.
>
> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known idiots like the
> Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>
> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on other newsgroups. The
> majority of people on those other groups who are crazy like me recognize the
> Middiot and his posse for the fools they are. The results aren't pretty.

Indeed. There was a guy on rmcr the other day who thought you were
"reasonably level-headed, amenable to reasoned discussion".

Stephen

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 19, 6:08 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>>>> >
>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does
>>>>>>> most of his recording as a volunteer.
>>>>>> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only
>>>>>> about 10% of my annual production of recordings as a
>>>>>> volunteer.
>>>>> And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
>>>>> high school band festivals.
>>
>>>> Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate,
>>>> and it isn't low.
>>> So you say.
>>
>> So you say.
>
> Now this type of behavior *is* in the DSM-IV, GOIA.
>
>>>>> Big deal.
>>>> You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't
>>>> stop you from running off your mouth like the fool you
>>>> are.
>>> No, GOIA, we all know what you are. A "professional
>>> recording engineer" isn't it.
>>
>> So you say.

> This is a condition called "immediate echolalia". Usually
> it appears in autistic children or those with pervasive
> developmental disorders.

This condition is called abuse of a term of art to appear to be a
health-care professional who is qualified to make such diagnoses.

Needless to say, no actual qualified professional would base such a
diagnosis on an interchange on Usenet. Therefore, by saying what you've said
****R, you've provided evidence that you are in a delusional state where you
believe that you are a qualified health-care professional.


>>>>> Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
>>>>> Prffeshunal Rekordist?
>>
>>>> They are the property of the respective musical groups.
>>> So where can I get one, GOIA? Which groups? How many of
>>> them are professional? Which high schools? LOL!
>>
>> As if you'd buy one if you could, ****R. LOL!
>
> I said I would. I'd enjoy hearing the fruits of your
> professional efforts. I like high school bands. So where
> can I get one of your recordings which are obviously
> highly-sought-after, since you are so richly compensated?
> You know, one where you're actually credited?

I guess that if you have a child in the band program of a select group of SE
Michigan schools, you could negotiate with his band director. Do you
qualify?

>>>>> I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what
>>>>> titles to purchase.
>>>> Only in your dreams, ****R, You don't seem to have a
>>>> clue about this segment
>>>> of the marketplace.
>>> Yes, GOIA, I "dream" of owning one of your "recordings".
>>
>> So you say.

> This behavior of yours would not be a concern, except
> that you're allgedly an adult and that you claim to be
> normal. It normally occurs in children, or as I said, in
> those with some disorder.

You've already disqualified yourself from meaningfully saying such a thing,
****R. You are making it appear that your mental condition is worsening.

>>> Yet they are
>>> unknown, the property of the high schools who pay you
>>> such high sums.
>>
>> Not high sums, just the going rate for professional
>> services.

> So you get union scale? I doubt that very much.

I've never seen a member of a relevant union do work like this.

>>>>>>> He'd like to hire someone,
>>>>>>> but since all of his money goes into equipment that
>>>>>>> he has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire
>>>>>>> anybody.
>>>>>> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4
>>>>>> years, was paid for the
>>>>>> first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial
>>>>>> equipment, list price
>>>>>> in the $3-400 range.

>>>>> $3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!
>>>> Given that you think that spending $7K for an obsolete
>>>> microphone is a wise
>>>> move for a small regional college, you're just piling
>>>> Insanity on top of
>>>> errors.
>>> Why are you making things up, GOIA? I never said
>>> anything
>>> was "wise" or "good" or "bad".

>> Sure you did - you said that since the money came from a
>> different budget than staffing, it was money well spent.

> Please show the quote. I said no such thing.

Then ****R you're admitting that your attempt to confuse the issue by
talking about different budgets is irrelevant?

> Insanity causes things like these hallucinations of yours
> and your echolalia... LOL!

Again ****R, you've already disqualified yourself from meaningfully saying
such a thing You are making it appear that your mental condition is
worsening at a rapid rate.


>>> I merely called "bull****" on you
>>> when you made the claim that the microphone purchase
>>> came out of funds for faculty.

>> So, so the faculty at a state school aren't funded by
>> the state?
>> Or, is it the capital expenses that aren't funded by the
>> state?

> And what new insanity is this? An inability to understand
> the printed word? LMAO! And what has this to do with
> anything? LOL! LOL!

Lack of understanding of simple financial considerations noted.

> Let's see how far GOIA can parse this to try to not look
> so stupid:

>> And the state doesn't obtain the money for both from its
>> budget?
>
>> The state's budget isn't all the same funds?

>> And the state's budget isn't funded by taxes?

>> Is that what you are trying to say, ****R?

> You forgot: "And that the money isn't printed from the
> Federal Government, who also provide education funds to
> the states?" "And that these government facilities aren't
> paid for by taxes?"

So ****R, you now admit that you were talking trash when you defended the
acquisition of these overpriced boutique microphones with public money?

>> That's nuts!

> LOL! There, there, GOIA, everything is going to be all
> right. Whatever shortfall the microphones caused to the
> state budget will no doubt be made up from highway or
> health care or administrative funds.

So ****R, you favor compromising highway safety and human health so that
Jenn's school can brag about owning two overpriced boutique microphones?


>>> Only a nut would think that, or someone utterly clueless
>>> about budgeting processes.

>> Well ****R you seem to think that faculty expenses are
>> wholly separate from capital expenses, and that's nuts!

> Um, we'll see.

Only the blind cannot now see that you've been talking trash all along,
****R.


> You live in Detroit. You'd better tell that to the Big
> Three. I'll bet they think they have different cost
> centers! I'll bet those fools retool plants out of a
> different budget than salaries come from!

Toling and plants and staffing costs come out of the same annual budget.

> You need to train them. Pronto.

> Let's see what the IRS has to say, GOIA:
>
> Capital Expenses
>
> You must capitalize, rather than deduct, some costs.
> These costs are a part of your investment in your
> business and are called capital expenses. Capital
> expenses are considered assets in your business.There
> are, in general, three types of costs you capitalize.

> Business start-up cost (See the note below)
> Business assets
> Improvements

> http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=109807,00.html

> NOTE TO GOIA: Employee expenses (salaries, etc.) are in a
> different category. Go look and see.

So what? I've already explained this.


>
> capital expenditure n. payment by a business for basic
> assets such as property, fixtures, or machinery, but not
> for day-to-day operations such as payroll, inventory,
> maintenance and advertising. Capital expenditures
> supposedly increase the value of company assets and are
> usually intended to improve productivity.
>
> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Capital+expenses
>
> Or, GOIA, how about a definition for investors? LMAO!
>
> capital expenditure
> Definition
>
> Money spent to acquire or upgrade physical assets such as
> buildings and machinery. also called capital spending or
> capital expense.
>
> http://www.investorwords.com/703/capital_expenditure.html
>
> The world you inhabit does not exist except in your
> addled brain. And you obviously don't know **** about
> business.
>
>>> Also, calling Telefunken microphones "obsolete"
>>> shows how ignorant truly you are. They are no more
>>> obsolete than a 1959 Stratocaster.
>>
>> So ****R, are you suggesting that Jen's school buy each
>> of its freshmen in the music program 1959 Stratocasters
>> to practice on?
>>
>> Now that's insane!
>
> Wow! Did Jenn's school buy a new Telefunken Microphone
> for each of their freshmen? If they did, that's just
> crazy!
>
> Or if they didn't, then making this ridiculous and insane
> argument of yours is! LOL!
>
>>> Finally, $300-400 equipment is not considered a big deal
>>> at even the smallest of businesses. It costs more than
>>> that to maintain some of the equipment I use in mine.
>>
>> So you say.
>
> LOL! I suppose you break point for "non-trivial" expenses
> is .05 for a pencil. What a moron!

>> BTW what is your business, ****R?
>
> It's not audio-related, GOIA. But I suggest, if you don't
> believe that $300-400 equipment is not a big deal to
> most, that you go out and talk to a few. A ladder for a
> handyman can cost this much. LOL!

Inability to reveal common personal information that any sane person could
reveal, noted.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg clambers up to peer over the enormous wall between itself
and Real Human Knowledge.

>>>> So you say.

>>> So you say.
>>> So you say.

>> This is a condition called "immediate echolalia". Usually
>> it appears in autistic children or those with pervasive
>> developmental disorders.
>
>This condition is called abuse of a term of art to appear to be a
>health-care professional who is qualified to make such diagnoses.

Shhhh made an error of diction, Turdborg. Your behavior is a symptom,
not a "condition". You exhibit many antisocial symptoms -- among them
lying, deception, lying, pimping, lying, egomaniacal obsessions, lying,
lying, lying, and lying -- that might be indicative of many conditions.
The primary contender for the condition that is linked to all your
symptoms is Paranoid Personality Disorder. If you weren't insane, you
might be able to understand why the PPD diagnosis fits you so well.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 9:42*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 6:08 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> >>> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >>>> >
> >>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> >>>>>>> I'm sure the baseline for GOIA is that GOIA does
> >>>>>>> most of his recording as a volunteer.
> >>>>>> Wrong again ****R, you insane liar. I produce only
> >>>>>> about 10% of my annual production of recordings as a
> >>>>>> volunteer.
> >>>>> And the other 90% as a low-paid hourly "rekordist" for
> >>>>> high school band festivals.
>
> >>>> Wrong again, the pay is not based on an hourly rate,
> >>>> and it isn't low.
> >>> So you say.
>
> >> So you say.
>
> > Now this type of behavior *is* in the DSM-IV, GOIA.
>
> >>>>> Big deal.
> >>>> You've been proven wrong twice ****R, and that doesn't
> >>>> stop you from running off your mouth like the fool you
> >>>> are.
> >>> No, GOIA, we all know what you are. A "professional
> >>> recording engineer" isn't it.
>
> >> So you say.
> > This is a condition called "immediate echolalia". Usually
> > it appears in autistic children or those with pervasive
> > developmental disorders.
>
> This condition is called abuse of a term of art to appear to be a
> health-care professional who is qualified to make such diagnoses.

My, we are getting a little defensive. Methinks thou protesteth too
much.

> Needless to say, no actual qualified professional would base such a
> diagnosis on an interchange on Usenet. Therefore, by saying what you've said
> ****R, you've provided evidence that you are in a delusional state where you
> believe that you are a qualified health-care professional.

Not true, ****-for-brains. (no pun intended) LOL! I'm qualified to
read the DSM-IV, which I own. I'm fully-qualified to write what it
says, which I did. You are sure upset. Is there something you'd like
to get off your chest, GOIA? LOL!

> >>>>> Where can we hear some of your recordings, Mr.
> >>>>> Prffeshunal Rekordist?
>
> >>>> They are the property of the respective musical groups.
> >>> So where can I get one, GOIA? Which groups? How many of
> >>> them are professional? Which high schools? LOL!
>
> >> As if you'd buy one if you could, ****R. LOL!
>
> > I said I would. I'd enjoy hearing the fruits of your
> > professional efforts. I like high school bands. So where
> > can I get one of your recordings which are obviously
> > highly-sought-after, since you are so richly compensated?
> > You know, one where you're actually credited?
>
> I guess that if you have a child in the band program of a select group of SE
> Michigan schools, you could negotiate with his band director. Do you
> qualify?

Nope. You record high school bands, just as I said. Thank you for the
confirmation.

> >>>>> I'll buy them from Amazon. Just let me know what
> >>>>> titles to purchase.
> >>>> Only in your dreams, ****R, You don't seem to have a
> >>>> clue about this segment
> >>>> of the marketplace.
> >>> Yes, GOIA, I "dream" of owning one of your "recordings".
>
> >> So you say.
> > This behavior of yours would not be a concern, except
> > that you're allgedly an adult and that you claim to be
> > normal. It normally occurs in children, or as I said, in
> > those with some disorder.
>
> You've already disqualified yourself from meaningfully saying such a thing,
> ****R. You are making it appear that your mental condition is worsening.

Nice try. the deflections of one who is insane, such as yourself,
appear to be just that, insane deflections.

> >>> Yet they are
> >>> unknown, the property of the high schools who pay you
> >>> such high sums.
>
> >> Not high sums, just the going rate for professional
> >> services.
> > So you get union scale? I doubt that very much.
>
> I've never seen a member of a relevant union do work like this.

Probably mostly because they want to get paid.

> >>>>>>> He'd like to hire someone,
> >>>>>>> but since all of his money goes into equipment that
> >>>>>>> he has no cash flow to cover, he cannot hire
> >>>>>>> anybody.
> >>>>>> The recording equipment I purchased in the past 3-4
> >>>>>> years, was paid for the
> >>>>>> first day or two I owned it. I'm talking non-trivial
> >>>>>> equipment, list price
> >>>>>> in the $3-400 range.
> >>>>> $3-400 equipment *is* trivial, numbskull. LOL!
> >>>> Given that you think that spending $7K for an obsolete
> >>>> microphone is a wise
> >>>> move for a small regional college, you're just piling
> >>>> Insanity on top of
> >>>> errors.
> >>> Why are you making things up, GOIA? I never said
> >>> anything
> >>> was "wise" or "good" or "bad".
> >> Sure you did - you said that since the money came from a
> >> different budget than staffing, it was money well spent.
> > Please show the quote. I said no such thing.
>
> Then ****R *you're admitting that your attempt to confuse the issue by
> talking about different budgets is irrelevant?

No, GOIA, I'm merely saying that your insanity is causing you to melt
down and make things up. Here you leap from my comment "It doesn't
come from the same budget" (my comment on your ridiculous claim that
the microphone purchase somehow did) to "That means Shhhh! thinks it
is wise" to "Shhhh! says it is money well-spent".

You are obviously crazier than a bedbug, GOIA. And you're a liar, but
we all know that already. Well, we knew that you're nuts already too.

> > Insanity causes things like these hallucinations of yours
> > and your echolalia... LOL!
>
> Again ****R, you've already disqualified yourself from meaningfully saying
> such a thing You are making it appear that your mental condition is
> worsening at a rapid rate.

Sorry, dear boy, you have the corner on insanity here. This post of
yours is further proof.

> >>> I merely called "bull****" on you
> >>> when you made the claim that the microphone purchase
> >>> came out of funds for faculty.
> >> So, so the faculty at a state school aren't funded by
> >>the state?
> >> Or, is it the capital expenses that aren't funded by the
> >> state?
> > And what new insanity is this? An inability to understand
> > the printed word? LMAO! And what has this to do with
> > anything? LOL! LOL!
>
> Lack of understanding of simple financial considerations noted.

You can argue all you want to about whether more money should be spent
on capital expenses, or on salaries, or whatever. Once it's set, it's
set. And one has no bearing on the other.

You're a fruitcake, GOIA.

> > Let's see how far GOIA can parse this to try to not look
> > so stupid:
> >> And the state doesn't obtain the money for both from its
> >> budget?
>
> >> The state's budget isn't all the same funds?
> >> And the state's budget isn't funded by taxes?
> >> Is that what you are trying to say, ****R?
> > You forgot: "And that the money isn't printed from the
> > Federal Government, who also provide education funds to
> > the states?" "And that these government facilities aren't
> > paid for by taxes?"
>
> So ****R, *you now admit that you were talking trash when you defended the
> acquisition of these overpriced boutique microphones with public money?

I didn't defend anything, GOIA. I merely called "bull****" when you
claimed that the purchase of those microphones came out of, or had
anything to do with, the salaries at Jenn's college. No trash talk,
GOIA. I've made no other comment aside from the fact that no
professional recording engineer worth his salt would call Telefunken
or Neumann microphones "obsolete". Everything else comes from the
fertile soil of your mental disorders (read: insanity).

> >> That's nuts!
> > LOL! There, there, GOIA, everything is going to be all
> > right. Whatever shortfall the microphones caused to the
> > state budget will no doubt be made up from highway or
> > health care or administrative funds.
>
> So ****R, you favor compromising highway safety and human health so that
> Jenn's school can brag about owning two overpriced boutique microphones?

Yes, GOIA. That's exactly what I meant. There's that sarcasm that
your're so good at detecting. LOL!

You are digging yourself into an insane corner here, GOIA.

> >>> Only a nut would think that, or someone utterly clueless
> >>> about budgeting processes.
> >> Well ****R you seem to think that faculty expenses are
> >> wholly separate from capital expenses, and that's nuts!
> > Um, we'll see.
>
> Only the blind cannot now see that you've been talking trash all along,
> ****R.

GOIA, that vast pool of tax appropriations is segmented into various
large areas, like highways, education, law enforcement, etc. If you
take education, for example, that is segmented into capital and
ongoing expenses. These are seperate budgets. Your claim has no merit.
Get over it.

I presume that you know this and are simply playing dumb as a part of
your beloved "debating trade".

> > You live in Detroit. You'd better tell that to the Big
> > Three. I'll bet they think they have different cost
> > centers! I'll bet those fools retool plants out of a
> > different budget than salaries come from!
>
> Toling and plants and staffing costs come out of the same annual budget.

Nope. Different cost centers have different budgets.

> > You need to train them. Pronto.
> > Let's see what the IRS has to say, GOIA:
>
> > Capital Expenses
>
> > You must capitalize, rather than deduct, some costs.
> > These costs are a part of your investment in your
> > business and are called capital expenses. Capital
> > expenses are considered assets in your business.There
> > are, in general, three types of costs you capitalize.
> > Business start-up cost (See the note below)
> > Business assets
> > Improvements
> >http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=109807,00.html
> > NOTE TO GOIA: Employee expenses (salaries, etc.) are in a
> > different category. Go look and see.
>
> So what? I've already explained this.

LOL! That insane, meandering speech on taxes? An "explanation"? LOL!

> > capital expenditure n. payment by a business for basic
> > assets such as property, fixtures, or machinery, but not
> > for day-to-day operations such as payroll, inventory,
> > maintenance and advertising. Capital expenditures
> > supposedly increase the value of company assets and are
> > usually intended to improve productivity.
>
> >http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Capital+expenses
>
> > Or, GOIA, how about a definition for investors? LMAO!
>
> > capital expenditure
> > Definition
>
> > Money spent to acquire or upgrade physical assets such as
> > buildings and machinery. also called capital spending or
> > capital expense.
>
> >http://www.investorwords.com/703/capital_expenditure.html
>
> > The world you inhabit does not exist except in your
> > addled brain. And you obviously don't know **** about
> > business.

Thank you for agreeing that the world you reside in does not exist and
that you don't know **** about business or finance.

> >>> Also, calling Telefunken microphones "obsolete"
> >>> shows how ignorant truly you are. They are no more
> >>> obsolete than a 1959 Stratocaster.
>
> >> So ****R, are you suggesting that Jen's school buy each
> >> of its freshmen in the music program 1959 Stratocasters
> >> to practice on?
>
> >> Now that's insane!
>
> > Wow! Did Jenn's school buy a new Telefunken Microphone
> > for each of their freshmen? If they did, that's just
> > crazy!
>
> > Or if they didn't, then making this ridiculous and insane
> > argument of yours is! LOL!

Thank you for agreeing that your stupid argument was insane.

> >>> Finally, $300-400 equipment is not considered a big deal
> >>> at even the smallest of businesses. It costs more than
> >>> that to maintain some of the equipment I use in mine.
>
> >> So you say.
>
> > LOL! I suppose you break point for "non-trivial" expenses
> > is .05 for a pencil. What a moron!
> >> BTW what is your business, ****R?
>
> > It's not audio-related, GOIA. But I suggest, if you don't
> > believe that $300-400 equipment is not a big deal to
> > most, that you go out and talk to a few. A ladder for a
> > handyman can cost this much. LOL!
>
> Inability to reveal common personal information that any sane person could
> reveal, noted.

Inability to discern my ability to discern what information not to
diclose to those who are not sane, noted.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 10:11*am, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> The Krooborg clambers up to peer over the enormous wall between itself
> and Real Human Knowledge.
>
> >>>> So you say.
> >>> So you say.
> >>> So you say.
> >> This is a condition called "immediate echolalia". Usually
> >> it appears in autistic children or those with pervasive
> >> developmental disorders.
>
> >This condition is called abuse of a term of art to appear to be a
> >health-care professional who is qualified to make such diagnoses.
>
> Shhhh made an error of diction, Turdborg. Your behavior is a symptom,
> not a "condition". You exhibit many antisocial symptoms -- among them
> lying, deception, lying, pimping, lying, egomaniacal obsessions, lying,
> lying, lying, and lying -- that might be indicative of many conditions.
> The primary contender for the condition that is linked to all your
> symptoms is Paranoid Personality Disorder. If you weren't insane, you
> might be able to understand why the PPD diagnosis fits you so well.

GOIA arguing finance is a lot like 2pid arguing military matters. That
dog don't hunt. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 9:35*am, MINe109 > wrote:
> On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> > Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known idiots like the
> > Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>
> > The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on other newsgroups. The
> > majority of people on those other groups who are crazy like me recognize the
> > Middiot and his posse for *the fools they are. The results aren't pretty.
>
> Indeed. There was a guy on rmcr the other day who thought you were
> "reasonably level-headed, amenable to reasoned discussion".

Did this guy know him?

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 19, 9:35 am, MINe109 >
> wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known
>>> idiots like the Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>>
>>> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on
>>> other newsgroups. The majority of people on those other
>>> groups who are crazy like me recognize the Middiot and
>>> his posse for the fools they are. The results aren't
>>> pretty.

>> Indeed. There was a guy on rmcr the other day who
>> thought you were "reasonably level-headed, amenable to
>> reasoned discussion".

> Did this guy know him?

He definately knows the Middiot:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/msg/27356317032d12c0

Curtis Croulet wrote:

"Krueger always seemed
to me to be reasonably level-headed, amenable to reasoned discussion, not a
promoter of golden bricks, green pens, magic wires, etc. But Middius had
little to offer except invective. Unfortunately, there were too many others
like him to make the forum worthwhile."

Obviously Curtis does not know about ****R, or else he would have
categorized ****R with the Middiot.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 11:35*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 9:35 am, MINe109 >
> > wrote:
> >> On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known
> >>> idiots like the Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>
> >>> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on
> >>> other newsgroups. The majority of people on those other
> >>> groups who are crazy like me recognize the Middiot and
> >>> his posse for the fools they are. The results aren't
> >>> pretty.
> >> Indeed. There was a guy on rmcr the other day who
> >> thought you were "reasonably level-headed, amenable to
> >> reasoned discussion".
> > Did this guy know him?
>
> He definately knows the Middiot:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/msg/273...
>
> Curtis Croulet wrote:
>
> "Krueger always seemed
> to me to be reasonably level-headed, amenable to reasoned discussion, not a
> promoter of golden bricks, green pens, magic wires, etc. *But Middius had
> little to offer except invective. *Unfortunately, there were too many others
> like him to make the forum worthwhile."

So you've found a new friend. That makes, what, three now? Your Usenet
career is paying off!

In the archives I see one person who might have been an ally of yours
who you drove off due to your insanity. That person had far more chops
and knowledge than you ever will, GOIA. That much is obvious.

> Obviously Curtis does not know about ****R, or else he would have
> categorized ****R with the Middiot.

Doubtful. You categorize anybody who doesn't agree with you, or those
that see you for the detestable person that you are, with being part
of George's 'posse'. But there aren't many who do other than you.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

>> > I said I would. I'd enjoy hearing the fruits of your
>> > professional efforts. I like high school bands. So where
>> > can I get one of your recordings which are obviously
>> > highly-sought-after, since you are so richly compensated?
>> > You know, one where you're actually credited?
>>
>> I guess that if you have a child in the band program of a select group of SE
>> Michigan schools, you could negotiate with his band director. Do you
>> qualify?
>
>Nope. You record high school bands, just as I said. Thank you for the
>confirmation.

So Krooger's "clients" are his church and local public schools.
Big-budget enterprises all. ;-) In the real world, public schools love
to get recordings for free, which is what happens in a great many areas.
And it's all but certain that Krooger gets zero money from his church.
All he could possibly get from that is a signed donation receipt he can
use on his income tax report.

Only Arnii Krooger would try to pass off church and school donations as
"professional recording".

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

>So you've found a new friend. That makes, what, three now? Your Usenet
>career is paying off!

>In the archives I see one person who might have been an ally of yours
>who you drove off due to your insanity. That person had far more chops
>and knowledge than you ever will, GOIA. That much is obvious.

Are you referring to Bamborough, Goudreau, Johnston, Zelniker, or
someone else?

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> Shhhh! said:
>
> >> > I said I would. I'd enjoy hearing the fruits of your
> >> > professional efforts. I like high school bands. So where
> >> > can I get one of your recordings which are obviously
> >> > highly-sought-after, since you are so richly compensated?
> >> > You know, one where you're actually credited?
> >>
> >> I guess that if you have a child in the band program of a select group of
> >> SE
> >> Michigan schools, you could negotiate with his band director. Do you
> >> qualify?
> >
> >Nope. You record high school bands, just as I said. Thank you for the
> >confirmation.
>
> So Krooger's "clients" are his church and local public schools.
> Big-budget enterprises all. ;-) In the real world, public schools love
> to get recordings for free, which is what happens in a great many areas.
> And it's all but certain that Krooger gets zero money from his church.
> All he could possibly get from that is a signed donation receipt he can
> use on his income tax report.
>
> Only Arnii Krooger would try to pass off church and school donations as
> "professional recording".

To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try to defend him,
but fair is fair), his work with recording school ensembles would
qualify as professional work, in my experience. At festivals, one of
three situations is likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these
things): 1. The schools' pay a fee to enter the festival, and they
receive a recording of their performance, paid for by that fee. 2. The
festival picks up the cost of the recording. 3. The school can opt to
get recorded or not, paying a separate fee to the recording people. In
any event, the recording concern gets paid.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 19, 11:35 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>> wrote in
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 19, 9:35 am, MINe109 >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 18, 8:02 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Yes, the bizarro world of RAO *normals* - well-known
>>>>> idiots like the Middiot, ****R, and Art.
>>
>>>>> The really fun part is when they try to stalk me on
>>>>> other newsgroups. The majority of people on those
>>>>> other groups who are crazy like me recognize the
>>>>> Middiot and his posse for the fools they are. The
>>>>> results aren't pretty.
>>>> Indeed. There was a guy on rmcr the other day who
>>>> thought you were "reasonably level-headed, amenable to
>>>> reasoned discussion".
>>> Did this guy know him?
>>
>> He definately knows the Middiot:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/msg/273...
>>
>> Curtis Croulet wrote:
>>
>> "Krueger always seemed
>> to me to be reasonably level-headed, amenable to
>> reasoned discussion, not a
>> promoter of golden bricks, green pens, magic wires, etc.
>> But Middius had
>> little to offer except invective. Unfortunately, there
>> were too many others
>> like him to make the forum worthwhile."

> So you've found a new friend. That makes, what, three
> now?

No thousands upon thousands.

BTW ****R lets talk about your friends. That is the ones that post under
their legal names, not the myriad of sockpuppets and handles, not to mention
your own lack of willingness to soil your own good name with the crap you
post.

> Your Usenet career is paying off!

Tain't no such thing as a Usenet career - you must be crazy to say such a
thing, ****R.

> In the archives I see one person who might have been an
> ally of yours
> who you drove off due to your insanity.

Sign of insanity, the inability to provide relevant facts.

> That person had far more chops and knowledge than you ever will, GOIA.

What qualifies you to make that judgement, ****R? Let's review some
relevant facts like that you are so ashamed of your postings here that you
won't attach your legal name to them. How about the fact that you are so
ashamed of your day job that you can't be made to mention it?

> That much is obvious.

What's obvious is your cowardice, ****R..

>> Obviously Curtis does not know about ****R, or else he
>> would have
>> categorized ****R with the Middiot.

> Doubtful.

Says who, but a person known for his cowardice, who posts under the alias we
know as ****R?

> You categorize anybody who doesn't agree with you, or those
> that see you for the detestable person that you are, with
> being part of George's 'posse'.

Not at all.

> But there aren't many who do other than you.

There aren't many who do anything of any kind on RAO because the Middius
posse chased off almost everybody who is interested in audio.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message

> Only Arnii Krooger would try to pass off church and
> school donations as "professional recording".

Only the Middiot would be so insane as to call paid professional work done
at public schools "donations".

In contrast the Middiot has never made any *donations* to the world that
weren't brown and smelly.

The Middiot might have a career opportunity: Get people to pay him to go
away.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Apr, 14:04, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> There aren't many who do anything of any kind on RAO because the Middius
> posse chased off almost everybody who is interested in audio.- Ascunde citatul -
>


George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in driving you off
of RAO.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Apr, 14:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:m9ak04d0b154hegvi65ssm69s5ccuc7gup@4ax .com
>
> > Only Arnii Krooger would try to pass off church and
> > school donations as "professional recording".
>
> Only the Middiot would be so insane as to call paid professional work done
> at public schools "donations".
>
> In contrast the Middiot has never made any *donations* to the world that
> weren't brown and smelly.
>


Where does he get his Krooturds?

> The Middiot might have a career opportunity: *Get people to pay him to go
> away.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

>George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in driving you off
>of RAO.

Not for lack of trying. The Krooborg's insanity is so entrenched that
the more abuse he receives, the more welcome he thinks he is.

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 19 Apr, 14:04, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>>
>> There aren't many who do anything of any kind on RAO
>> because the Middius
>> posse chased off almost everybody who is interested in
>> audio.- Ascunde citatul -

> George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in
> driving you off of RAO.

Art, Marc, ****R et al (AKA the Middiot Posse) have all failed. In the
process of failing to drive me off, they did succeed at doing one thing -
they have succeeded at making RAO completely useless for its chartered
purpose. They've driven off 100's of people, most who were more like-minded
with them than I.

In the process, the Middiot Posse *encouraged* me to take my show on the
road, so now there are over a dozen active newsgroups that I happily
participate in.

Thanks for the encouragement, guys! I couldn't have done it without you!
;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message
> Clyde Slick said:
>
>> George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in
>> driving you off of RAO.
>
> Not for lack of trying. The Krooborg's insanity is so
> entrenched that the more abuse he receives, the more
> welcome he thinks he is.

Who is Krooborg, George? What is his legal name? Do you even know it?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try
> to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with recording
> school ensembles would qualify as professional work, in
> my experience.

When you get this much this right, it is hard to make trouble, Jenn. ;-)

> At festivals, one of three situations is
> likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these things):

> 1. The schools' pay a fee to enter the festival, and
> they receive a recording of their performance, paid for
> by that fee.

Agreed.

> 2. The festival picks up the cost of the recording.

You just said that in other words, so of course it is a true statement.

> 3. The school can opt to get recorded or
> not, paying a separate fee to the recording people.

I've never seen this happen.

> In any event, the recording concern gets paid.

Indeed we do!

I find it to be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I'm going to miss out on one
festival the week my daughter is getting married, for pretty obvious
reasons.

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 19 Apr, 14:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>> messagenews:m9ak04d0b154hegvi65ssm69s5ccuc7gup@4ax .com
>>
>>> Only Arnii Krooger would try to pass off church and
>>> school donations as "professional recording".
>>
>> Only the Middiot would be so insane as to call paid
>> professional work done at public schools "donations".
>>
>> In contrast the Middiot has never made any *donations*
>> to the world that weren't brown and smelly.

> Where does he get his Krooturds?

The Middiot makes his own food.

>> The Middiot might have a career opportunity: Get people
>> to pay him to go away.

It would be an interesting experiment to see how long it would take for RAO
to turn into a decent place, were the Middiot's posse to just disappear, or
perhaps tranform themselves in decent human beings.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Arnii, thank you for deconstructing reality. In our haste, all of us
Normals seem to have misconstrued everything we saw and participated in.

>Art, Marc, ****R et al (AKA [my supreme master's] Posse) have all failed. In the
>process of failing to drive me off, they did succeed at doing one thing -
>they have succeeded at making RAO completely useless for its chartered
>purpose. They've driven off 100's of people, most who were more like-minded
>with them than I.

I feel as though a thick veil has been lifted from my eyes. I was
foolish enough to accept at face value such 'borgisms as "all amps are
pretty much the same", or "vinyl is evil because I can't afford to play
it properly". But now, thanks to you, I can see that They actually meant
the opposite of what They said. They actually adore the panoply of
amplifier technology on the market, and they actually revel in the
plethora of choices in cable and wire.

The now-silent 'borgs who spoke your mind were actually speaking ours.
Who'd have expected reality to turn out like that?

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message

> I feel as though a thick veil has been lifted from my
> eyes. I was foolish enough to accept at face value such
> 'borgisms as "all amps are pretty much the same", or
> "vinyl is evil because I can't afford to play it
> properly".

Those aren't borgisms Middiot my child, those are Middiotisms. You made them
up with your own little pea brain. Please get sane enough to give credit
where credit is due.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Apr, 15:21, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On 19 Apr, 14:04, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> There aren't many who do anything of any kind on RAO
> >> because the Middius
> >> posse chased off almost everybody who is interested in
> >> audio.- Ascunde citatul -
> > George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in
> > driving you off of RAO.
>
> Art, Marc, ****R et al (AKA the Middiot Posse) *have all failed. In the
> process of failing to drive me off, they did succeed at doing one thing -
> they have succeeded at making RAO completely useless for its chartered
> purpose. They've driven off 100's of people, most who were more like-minded
> with them than I.
>
> In the process, the Middiot Posse *encouraged* me to take my show on the
> road, so now there are over a dozen active newsgroups that I happily
> participate in.
>
> Thanks for the encouragement, guys! *I couldn't have done it without you!
> ;-)


I can proudly take credit for Arny's productive usenet career

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try
> > to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with recording
> > school ensembles would qualify as professional work, in
> > my experience.
>
> When you get this much this right, it is hard to make trouble, Jenn. ;-)

Hasn't stopped you in the past, Arny. ;-)

>
> > At festivals, one of three situations is
> > likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these things):
>
> > 1. The schools' pay a fee to enter the festival, and
> > they receive a recording of their performance, paid for
> > by that fee.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > 2. The festival picks up the cost of the recording.
>
> You just said that in other words, so of course it is a true statement.

Nope, two different things. In #1, the school is paying for the
recording, via their entry fee. In #2, the host provides the recording
as a service.

>
> > 3. The school can opt to get recorded or
> > not, paying a separate fee to the recording people.
>
> I've never seen this happen.

I have; several times.

>
> > In any event, the recording concern gets paid.
>
> Indeed we do!
>
> I find it to be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I'm going to miss out on one
> festival the week my daughter is getting married, for pretty obvious
> reasons.

Congrats to your family, old and new.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 2:22*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:spfk04toial34fu1qhl80fn1pqea29nsr7@4ax .com
>
> > Clyde Slick said:
>
> >> George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in
> >> driving you off of RAO.
>
> > Not for lack of trying. The Krooborg's insanity is so
> > entrenched that the more abuse he receives, the more
> > welcome he thinks he is.
>
> Who is Krooborg, George? What is his legal name? Do you even know it?

The sane here know who it is.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 12:37*pm, Jenn > wrote:

> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try to defend him,
> but fair is fair), his work with recording school ensembles would
> qualify as professional work, in my experience. *At festivals, one of
> three situations is likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these
> things): * 1. *The schools' pay a fee to enter the festival, and they
> receive a recording of their performance, paid for by that fee. *2. *The
> festival picks up the cost of the recording. *3. *The school can opt to
> get recorded or not, paying a separate fee to the recording people. *In
> any event, the recording concern gets paid.

Semi-professional might be a better description. A "professional"
makes their living doing something.

GOIA is like an actor who works for low pay and supplements their
income by worling in a deli. ;-)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 2:26*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> It would be an interesting experiment to see how long it would take for RAO
> to turn into a decent place, were the Middiot's posse to just disappear, or
> perhaps tranform themselves in decent human beings.

Since nobody seems to want audio any more and it is a dying industry,
who would come?

I think if you changed the group to rec.audio.opinion.MP3 it might
work.

Have you noticed something, GOIA? There are no newbies, no questions.
Period. These newbies have never heard of the "posse". Bye-bye insane
argument!

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 19, 2:22 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>> messagenews:spfk04toial34fu1qhl80fn1pqea29nsr7@4ax .com
>>
>>> Clyde Slick said:
>>
>>>> George is a failure, as he hasn't been successful in
>>>> driving you off of RAO.
>>
>>> Not for lack of trying. The Krooborg's insanity is so
>>> entrenched that the more abuse he receives, the more
>>> welcome he thinks he is.
>>
>> Who is Krooborg, George? What is his legal name? Do you
>> even know it?
>
> The sane here know who it is.

That leaves you out, ****R.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try
>>> to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with
>>> recording school ensembles would qualify as
>>> professional work, in my experience.
>>
>> When you get this much this right, it is hard to make
>> trouble, Jenn. ;-)
>
> Hasn't stopped you in the past, Arny. ;-)
>
>>
>>> At festivals, one of three situations is
>>> likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these
>>> things):
>>
>>> 1. The schools' pay a fee to enter the festival, and
>>> they receive a recording of their performance, paid for
>>> by that fee.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> 2. The festival picks up the cost of the recording.

>> You just said that in other words, so of course it is a
>> true statement.
>
> Nope, two different things. In #1, the school is paying
> for the recording, via their entry fee. In #2, the host
> provides the recording as a service.

Nope, IME the same thing. The schools always pay a fee to be in the
festival, and the festival always pays the recordist.

>>> 3. The school can opt to get recorded or
>>> not, paying a separate fee to the recording people.

>> I've never seen this happen.

> I have; several times.

>>> In any event, the recording concern gets paid.

>> Indeed we do!

>> I find it to be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I'm going
>> to miss out on one festival the week my daughter is
>> getting married, for pretty obvious reasons.

> Congrats to your family, old and new.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Arnii "Krazy Krazy Krazy" Krooger starts on his second million.

>>>> The Krooborg's insanity is so
>>>> entrenched that the more abuse he receives, the more
>>>> welcome he thinks he is.
>>>
>>> Who is Krooborg, George? What is his legal name? Do you
>>> even know it?
>>
>> The sane here know who it is.
>
>That leaves you out, ****R.

Not a million dollars, of course -- another million "debating trade"
bucks. They're even less useful than toilet paper, except you don't need
toilet paper do you, Arnii?

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 19, 12:37 pm, Jenn
> > wrote:
>
>> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try
>> to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with
>> recording school ensembles would qualify as professional
>> work, in my experience. At festivals, one of three
>> situations is likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of
>> these things): 1. The schools' pay a fee to enter the
>> festival, and they receive a recording of their
>> performance, paid for by that fee. 2. The festival picks
>> up the cost of the recording. 3. The school can opt to
>> get recorded or not, paying a separate fee to the
>> recording people. In any event, the recording concern
>> gets paid.

> Semi-professional might be a better description.

Thta means something else.

> A "professional" makes their living doing something.

There's not steady enough work doing festivals for anybody to make a living
doing festivals. It is a seasonal business.

But thanks ****R for sharing your ignorance of that fact, like all the other
ignorant statements that you share.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> It would be an interesting experiment to see how long it
>> would take for RAO to turn into a decent place, were the
>> Middiot's posse to just disappear, or perhaps tranform
>> themselves in decent human beings.

> Since nobody seems to want audio any more and it is a
> dying industry, who would come?

Typical of a numb-brain like yours ****R to think that just because audio is
changing, it is dying.

> I think if you changed the group to rec.audio.opinion.MP3
> it might work.

Typical of a numb-brain like yours ****R to think that slight changes such
as the use of MP3s is a sign that audio is dying.

> Have you noticed something, GOIA? There are no newbies,
> no questions. Period.

That is because you scared all the newbies away, ****R.

> These newbies have never heard of the "posse".

The childish antics of the Middiot's posse smacks newbies in the eye before
they make their first post.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article >,
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >> .
> >> com
> >>
> >>> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try
> >>> to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with
> >>> recording school ensembles would qualify as
> >>> professional work, in my experience.
> >>
> >> When you get this much this right, it is hard to make
> >> trouble, Jenn. ;-)
> >
> > Hasn't stopped you in the past, Arny. ;-)
> >
> >>
> >>> At festivals, one of three situations is
> >>> likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these
> >>> things):
> >>
> >>> 1. The schools pay a fee to enter the festival, and
> >>> they receive a recording of their performance, paid for
> >>> by that fee.
> >>
> >> Agreed.
> >>
> >>> 2. The festival picks up the cost of the recording.
>
> >> You just said that in other words, so of course it is a
> >> true statement.
> >
> > Nope, two different things. In #1, the school is paying
> > for the recording, via their entry fee. In #2, the host
> > provides the recording as a service.
>
> Nope, IME the same thing. The schools always pay a fee to be in the
> festival, and the festival always pays the recordist.

Not the same. In #1, the fee covers the cost of the recording. In #2,
the fee doesn't cover the cost of the recording (i.e. the fees for
festival #2 are less), and the host is paying for the cost of the
recording.

>
> >>> 3. The school can opt to get recorded or
> >>> not, paying a separate fee to the recording people.
>
> >> I've never seen this happen.
>
> > I have; several times.
>
> >>> In any event, the recording concern gets paid.
>
> >> Indeed we do!
>
> >> I find it to be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I'm going
> >> to miss out on one festival the week my daughter is
> >> getting married, for pretty obvious reasons.
>
> > Congrats to your family, old and new.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Apr, 20:42, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Arnii "Krazy Krazy Krazy" Krooger starts on his second million.
>
> >>>> The Krooborg's insanity is so
> >>>> entrenched that the more abuse he receives, the more
> >>>> welcome he thinks he is.
>
> >>> Who is Krooborg, George? What is his legal name? Do you
> >>> even know it?
>
> >> The sane here know who it is.
>
> >That leaves you out, ****R.
>
> Not a million dollars, of course -- another million "debating trade"
> bucks. They're even less useful than toilet paper, except you don't need
> toilet paper do you, Arnii?



Arny is a liar.
they don't pay him anything.
He is not the official recordist.
George, If you believe this lie of his,
you might as well convince yourself that you
sent him kiddie porn emails!!!!
you might as

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> .
>>>> com
>>>>
>>>>> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I
>>>>> try to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with
>>>>> recording school ensembles would qualify as
>>>>> professional work, in my experience.
>>>>
>>>> When you get this much this right, it is hard to make
>>>> trouble, Jenn. ;-)
>>>
>>> Hasn't stopped you in the past, Arny. ;-)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At festivals, one of three situations is
>>>>> likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of these
>>>>> things):
>>>>
>>>>> 1. The schools pay a fee to enter the festival, and
>>>>> they receive a recording of their performance, paid
>>>>> for by that fee.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. The festival picks up the cost of the recording.
>>
>>>> You just said that in other words, so of course it is a
>>>> true statement.
>>>
>>> Nope, two different things. In #1, the school is paying
>>> for the recording, via their entry fee. In #2, the host
>>> provides the recording as a service.
>>
>> Nope, IME the same thing. The schools always pay a fee
>> to be in the festival, and the festival always pays the
>> recordist.
>
> Not the same. In #1, the fee covers the cost of the
> recording.

Actually, the fee goes into a pot, and all festival expenses are paid out of
that pot.

> In #2, the fee doesn't cover the cost of the
> recording (i.e. the fees for festival #2 are less), and
> the host is paying for the cost of the recording.

If the hosting school spends more money on the festival than they receive in
fees, that is their choice. The fee structure is standardized accross the
state.

[Harry Lavo]

"Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry Lavo" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>>>> great Telefunkens:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>>>
>>>> http://www.telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>>
>>> Boutique items, for sure.
>>>
>>> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
>>> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
>>> world.
>>>
>>> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and
>>> that must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>>>
>>
>> Ah, envy raises it's head in Arny's life once again. We will now be
>> subjected to a month of off- and on- again posts about Behringer and
>> Studio Project mics being are just as good, and why all mics above $400
>> are evil wastes of money.....especially those using....*gasp*.....tubes.
> I have several times considered buying a tube mike. I looked for web
> experiences of all the candidates under $1K, and was chastened by the
> highly mixed opinions. The Rode NT2000, which I'm very happy with, and
> which received excellent reviews, is also available in a tube version, and
> is notably one of the quietest tube mikes in existence. But sadly, the
> opinions seem split between praise and damnation. Ditto for the rest of
> the offerings, except that they are typically distinguished by excessive
> noise.
>
> So the tube does something much more than subtle to the sound, as does the
> transformer, if one is used (some tube mikes use bipolar direct coupled
> outputs.) I suspect that the Telefunkens work for some very specific
> voices, and perhaps, some instruments. High coloration is a way of life
> for pop music recordists, and knowing when to use these tools could be a
> great advantage. But I would expect that a cheap Behringer mike is more
> neutral.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511

More neutral in terms of frequency balance, perhaps, (if you are talking
their instrumentation mic) but also noisier and with lower output. Almost
all mics are designed for a purpose, Bob, as you well know. Presumably the
telefunkens were purchased with an eye towards their appropriateness for a
given use. But just as with amplifiers, tube mics tend to provide a
three-dimensionality or "roundness" to the sound (higher second harmonic,
perhaps) that transistor mics often do not....and their separate power
supplies and preamps usually allow them to handle very loud sounds and to
transmit signal back to the counsole/control room/DAW (whatever) with no hum
or other extraneous noise. It is obviously an individual choice, as it is
with almost any mic selection....there are pros and cons, but no rights or
wrongs....except for a specific application.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Apr, 15:25, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:


>
> I find it to be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I'm going to miss out on one
> festival the week my daughter is getting married, for pretty obvious
> reasons.

We'll know what week it is. You'll be in an
especially snotty mood, having to pay for the whole affair

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 7:36*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >

> > On Apr 19, 2:22 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:

> >> Who is Krooborg, George? What is his legal name? Do you
> >> even know it?
>
> > The sane here know who it is.
>
> That leaves you out, ****R.

Congratulations! You've now hit your 1,000,000th IKYABWAI regardless
of the accounting system!

Your prize awaits you! Just respond to this email with your bank
account information and passwords and it will be remitted out of our
accounts receivable budget immediately!

Once again, congratulations!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 7:42*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 12:37 pm, Jenn
> > > wrote:
>
> >> To be fair (I always get in trouble with Arny when I try
> >> to defend him, but fair is fair), his work with
> >> recording school ensembles would qualify as professional
> >> work, in my experience. At festivals, one of three
> >> situations is likely, in my experience (I judge a lot of
> >> these things): 1. The schools' pay a fee to enter the
> >> festival, and they receive a recording of their
> >> performance, paid for by that fee. 2. The festival picks
> >> up the cost of the recording. 3. The school can opt to
> >> get recorded or not, paying a separate fee to the
> >> recording people. In any event, the recording concern
> >> gets paid.
> > Semi-professional might be a better description.
>
> Thta means something else.
>
> > A "professional" makes their living doing something.
>
> There's not steady enough work doing festivals for anybody to make a living
> doing festivals. It is a seasonal business.

Then it is not a "profession" and you are not therefore a
"professional".

> But thanks ****R for sharing your ignorance of that fact, like all the other
> ignorant statements that you share.

No? Oh. Another ignorant statement. I must have confused "part-time
amateur" with "professional".

I have an idea: let's ask JA if he's a professional editor who also
does some recording, or if he's a professional recording engineer who
sometimes does some writing, or what. That might indicate if you're a
professional PC repairman who does some recording, or if you're a
professional recording engineer who dabbles in PC repair.

Here's a hint, GOIA: I've played hundreds of gigs in front of
thousands of people in part-time bands. I do not call myself a
"professional" musician. I would say that I'm a semi-professional at
best, or more likely, an amateur musician who plays out.

LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 19, 7:48*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> It would be an interesting experiment to see how long it
> >> would take for RAO to turn into a decent place, were the
> >> Middiot's posse to just disappear, or perhaps tranform
> >> themselves in decent human beings.
> > Since nobody seems to want audio any more and it is a
> > dying industry, who would come?
>
> Typical of a numb-brain like yours ****R to think that just because audio is
> changing, it is dying.

We can discuss MP3 playes all day long, GOIA. Which one sounds best to
you?

> > I think if you changed the group to rec.audio.opinion.MP3
> > it might work.
>
> Typical of a numb-brain like yours ****R to think that slight changes such
> as the use of MP3s is a sign that audio is dying.

Echolalia is resurfacing, GOIA. You should look into that.

You posted yourself that MP3 docking stations outsell all standard
stereo gear. Clearly portability wins over sound. Why discuss standard
audio gear? What docking stations do you prefer? What factory MP3
interfaces in automobiles do the best job IYO?

> > Have you noticed something, GOIA? There are no newbies,
> > no questions. Period.
>
> That is because you scared all the newbies away, ****R.

I see. I don't recall ever replying to one with hostility. Could you
bring that post (or posts) into the light, from the darkness of your
insanity please?

There. I asked nicely and everything. (BTW, Google won't lie to you.
They do not exist. With one single exception I even left 2pid's audio-
related posts alone.)

So you lie. Yet again. What's new?

> > These newbies have never heard of *the "posse".
>
> The childish antics of the Middiot's posse smacks newbies in the eye before
> they make their first post.

So your contention is that if George's Posse (caps for the title of a
group, GOIA) stopped posting, which of course assumes that such a
group exists, newbies woiuld suddenly appear and ask all sorts of
interesting questions. They would not do so on RAH-E, which has no
such "posse".

Another insane claim.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

>So your contention is that if George's Posse (caps for the title of a
>group, GOIA) stopped posting, which of course assumes that such a
>group exists, newbies woiuld suddenly appear and ask all sorts of
>interesting questions. They would not do so on RAH-E, which has no
>such "posse".

Interestingly, Krazy Krooger imagines various Normals are leading the
charge to have him committed. First it was the illustrious Derrida. His
reign over Turdborg lasted about three years, or approximately six times
the length of his tenure on RAO. Next came Zippy, who played here for at
least two years. Krooger didn't dwell on Zippy's posse-ing presumably
because of the reason he left RAO. At various times, Krooger has accused
Marc, John, Jennifer (not Martin, the other one), Leslie, Brian, and
probably others of commanding the plots against him. Mr. **** only
elevated me to the captaincy of the multitude of anti-Kroo konspiracies
after everybody else left RAO alone. You, Mr. Shhhh, have been in
Turdy's sights for quite a while, so don't be surprised if you become
the alleged ringleader at some point.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

>I would say that I'm a semi-professional at
> best, or more likely, an amateur musician who plays out.

A fine thing to be.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

>A fine thing to be.

Jennn I'm starting, to beleeive Jen that, you don't want to earn your
fare shair of debating trade, points Jnnen.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message


> So your contention is that if George's Posse
> stopped posting, newbies woiuld suddenly appear and ask all
> sorts of interesting questions.

No, newbies and a few returning regulars would slowly appear and discuss
audio.

As you state it ****R, there is an excluded-middle. Far be it from you to
make an fair statement.

> They would not do so on RAH-E, which has no such "posse".

There's far more audio going on at RAHE than there is on RAO, by far. This
is true, despite the inconvenience of being moderated.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Arnii "Utmost in Fecality" Krooborg spasms erratically.

>There's far more audio going on at RAHE than there is on RAO, by far.

Another major achievement in unintended irony for the Krooborg. Bravo,
Turdy!

BTW, I'm curious why you crawled back into RAH-E after they shunned you.
A sane human being would laugh and turn his back. But not you. You
couldn't wait to pound on the door, weeping and wailing pitifully, until
the big bad moderators relented and took pity on your pathetic self.
Please explain your behavior, Arnii.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 20, 4:31*pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Arnii "Utmost in Fecality" Krooborg spasms erratically.
>
> >There's far more audio going on at RAHE than there is on RAO, by far. *
>
> Another major achievement in unintended irony for the Krooborg. Bravo,
> Turdy!
>
> BTW, I'm curious why you crawled back into RAH-E after they shunned you.
> A sane human being would laugh and turn his back. But not you. You
> couldn't wait to pound on the door, weeping and wailing pitifully, until
> the big bad moderators relented and took pity on your pathetic self.
> Please explain your behavior, Arnii.

It's not his coat of **** that's funny. It's the platform shoes.