High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Repect In The Marketplace

[Arny Krueger]

High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In The Marketplace

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html

"But the fact is, most people don't want high-end stereos anymore. Many
don't want any stereo at all. The entire market for traditional home audio
products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will be about $1.7 billion
this year, according to the Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast,
speaker docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than $1 billion
all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players will top $5.6 billion."

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 14, 5:40*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In The Marketplace
>
> http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>
> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end stereos anymore. Many
> don't want any stereo at all. The entire market for traditional home audio
> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will be about $1.7 billion
> this year, according to the Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast,
> speaker docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than $1 billion
> all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players will top $5.6 billion."

And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said all along. People
choose products for reasons of their own. Portable MP3 docks are not
"high-fidelity". They are, however, portable. So portablility wins
over sound. Yay!

The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going. Everything else is
floobydust.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message


> On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:

>> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In
>> The Marketplace

>> http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html

>> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end
>> stereos anymore. Many don't want any stereo at all. The
>> entire market for traditional home audio
>> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will
>> be about $1.7 billion this year, according to the
>> Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast, speaker
>> docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than
>> $1 billion all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players
>> will top $5.6 billion."

> And your point is what, GOIA?

It takes a truely insane person to expect that every Usenet article is
supposed to make a point.

>This is what I've said all along. People choose products for reasons of
>their own.

A trivial truism, easily near the limit of your mental powers, ****R.

> Portable MP3 docks are not "high-fidelity".

The better of them are arguably more so than say, the LP format.

> They are, however, portable.

Shows how little you know, ****R. Many iPod docks are obviously designed to
not be portable - they run off of power line voltage, they are too large and
bulky to be portable, lack carrying handles, etc.

> So portablility wins over sound. Yay!

What insanity!

> The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going.

What happened to: "People choose products for reasons of their own."?

****R, you seem to have decided to contradict yourself within just this
short post. Are you crazy or what?

> Everything else is floobydust.

Really ****R - did the voices in your head tell you that? Is that when you
are wearing your aluminum foil hat, or not?

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
> On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In The Marketplace
>>
>> http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>>
>> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end stereos anymore. Many
>> don't want any stereo at all. The entire market for traditional home audio
>> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will be about $1.7 billion
>> this year, according to the Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast,
>> speaker docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than $1 billion
>> all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players will top $5.6 billion."
>
> And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said all along. People
> choose products for reasons of their own. Portable MP3 docks are not
> "high-fidelity". They are, however, portable. So portablility wins
> over sound. Yay!
>
> The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going. Everything else is
> floobydust.

Why does there have to be a point? The point is discussion, if you
don't understand/dislike that idea, why are you here?

--




"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous
mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it
is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

[Arny Krueger]

"WindsorFox<SS>" > wrote in message

> Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In
>>> The Marketplace http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>>>
>>> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end
>>> stereos anymore. Many don't want any stereo at all. The
>>> entire market for traditional home audio
>>> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will
>>> be about $1.7 billion this year, according to the
>>> Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast, speaker
>>> docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than
>>> $1 billion all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players
>>> will top $5.6 billion."
>>
>> And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said all
>> along. People choose products for reasons of their own.
>> Portable MP3 docks are not "high-fidelity". They are,
>> however, portable. So portablility wins over sound. Yay!
>>
>> The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going.
>> Everything else is floobydust.
>
> Why does there have to be a point? The point is
> discussion, if you don't understand/dislike that idea,
> why are you here?

It's quite obvious why ****R is here - he's here to boost his wounded ego by
summarily putting down just about everybody he responds to. That's all this
hole needs - another Middiot! :-(

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 14, 6:25*pm, "WindsorFox<SS>" > wrote:
> Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In The Marketplace
>
> >>http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>
> >> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end stereos anymore. Many
> >> don't want any stereo at all. The entire market for traditional home audio
> >> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will be about $1.7 billion
> >> this year, according to the Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast,
> >> speaker docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than $1 billion
> >> all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players will top $5.6 billion."
>
> > And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said all along. People
> > choose products for reasons of their own. Portable MP3 docks are not
> > "high-fidelity". They are, however, portable. So portablility wins
> > over sound. Yay!
>
> > The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going. Everything else is
> > floobydust.
>
> * * Why does there have to be a point? The point is discussion, if you
> don't understand/dislike that idea, why are you here?

Posts do not occur in a vacuum.

So let's discuss this. MP3 player sales are up. Regular stereo
equipment sales are not. Most people prefer portability over sound.

According to some (some who are insane, that is...) MP3 docking
stations sound better than LPs (did you note how some insane people
have to get digs in on a medium they do not like, when that medium was
never brought up? LOL!) (These same insane people, BTW, will wonder
for eternity why they've chased people off.)

Your turn. Let's discuss.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 14, 8:06*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "WindsorFox<SS>" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
> >> On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> >> wrote:
> >>> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In
> >>> The Marketplacehttp://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>
> >>> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end
> >>> stereos anymore. Many don't want any stereo at all. The
> >>> entire market for traditional home audio
> >>> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will
> >>> be about $1.7 billion this year, according to the
> >>> Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast, speaker
> >>> docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than
> >>> $1 billion all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players
> >>> will top $5.6 billion."
>
> >> And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said all
> >> along. People choose products for reasons of their own.
> >> Portable MP3 docks are not "high-fidelity". They are,
> >> however, portable. So portablility wins over sound. Yay!
>
> >> The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going.
> >> Everything else is floobydust.
>
> > * *Why does there have to be a point? The point is
> > discussion, if you don't understand/dislike that idea,
> > why are you here?
>
> It's quite obvious why ****R is here - he's here to boost his wounded ego by
> summarily putting down just about everybody he responds to. That's all this
> hole needs - another Middiot! :-(

Don't be sad, GOIA, as what you've claimed isn't true at all.

The list of people that I've responded to and not "put down" is far,
far longer than the list of those that I have. Since your sanity
isn't, um, "up to par" you probably are not capable of processing
that, so I'll let this slip.

[Clyde Slick]

On 15 Apr, 01:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 8:06*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "WindsorFox<SS>" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
> > >> On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect In
> > >>> The Marketplacehttp://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>
> > >>> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end
> > >>> stereos anymore. Many don't want any stereo at all. The
> > >>> entire market for traditional home audio
> > >>> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will
> > >>> be about $1.7 billion this year, according to the
> > >>> Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast, speaker
> > >>> docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than
> > >>> $1 billion all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players
> > >>> will top $5.6 billion."
>
> > >> And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said all
> > >> along. People choose products for reasons of their own.
> > >> Portable MP3 docks are not "high-fidelity". They are,
> > >> however, portable. So portablility wins over sound. Yay!
>
> > >> The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going.
> > >> Everything else is floobydust.
>
> > > * *Why does there have to be a point? The point is
> > > discussion, if you don't understand/dislike that idea,
> > > why are you here?
>
> > It's quite obvious why ****R is here - he's here to boost his wounded ego by
> > summarily putting down just about everybody he responds to. That's all this
> > hole needs - another Middiot! :-(
>
> Don't be sad, GOIA, as what you've claimed isn't true at all.
>
> The list of people that I've responded to and not "put down" is far,
> far longer than the list of those that I have. Since your sanity
> isn't, um, "up to par" you probably are not capable of processing
> that, so I'll let this slip.- Ascunde citatul -
>


Keep applying this:
http://www.custompc.co.uk/blogs/garethogden/files/turd-polish.jpg
and eventually Arny will shine

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

>Keep applying this:
>http://www.custompc.co.uk/blogs/garethogden/files/turd-polish.jpg
>and eventually Arny will shine

You say "polish", and Arnii says "mayo". Let's call the whole thing off.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 14, 8:06 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "WindsorFox<SS>" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 5:40 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> High End, Traditional Component Audio Get No Respect
>>>>> In
>>>>> The
>>>>> Marketplacehttp://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/078.html
>>
>>>>> "But the fact is, most people don't want high-end
>>>>> stereos anymore. Many don't want any stereo at all.
>>>>> The entire market for traditional home audio
>>>>> products--speakers, amps, receivers and so forth--will
>>>>> be about $1.7 billion this year, according to the
>>>>> Consumer Electronics Association. In contrast, speaker
>>>>> docks for portable MP3 players will generate more than
>>>>> $1 billion all by themselves, and sales of MP3 players
>>>>> will top $5.6 billion."
>>
>>>> And your point is what, GOIA? This is what I've said
>>>> all along. People choose products for reasons of their
>>>> own. Portable MP3 docks are not "high-fidelity". They
>>>> are, however, portable. So portablility wins over
>>>> sound. Yay!
>>
>>>> The market has spoken: MP3 is the best thing going.
>>>> Everything else is floobydust.
>>
>>> Why does there have to be a point? The point is
>>> discussion, if you don't understand/dislike that idea,
>>> why are you here?
>>
>> It's quite obvious why ****R is here - he's here to
>> boost his wounded ego by summarily putting down just
>> about everybody he responds to. That's all this hole
>> needs - another Middiot! :-(

> Don't be sad, GOIA, as what you've claimed isn't true at all.

Which part?

The part about you Mr. ****R putting people down is an observable fact.

The part about whether or not RAO is a hole, is an observable fact.

The part about RAO not needing another Middiot might be controversial.

> The list of people that I've responded to and not "put
> down" is far, far longer than the list of those that I
> have.

Typical of your insane comparisons, ****R. I've had over 10 years to put
people down, and you've been posting here for just a year or two. Back in
the day, the activity level around here was easily 20 or 30 times what it is
now. You're catching up with me even though you have 20 or 30 less times
fewer targets. Furthermore, I don't put people down unless they make
personal attacks on me. You do it, regardless.

> Since my sanity isn't, um, "up to par" I
> am not capable of processing that, so I'll let
> this slip.

See what I mean, ****R? It's virtually impossible for you to reply without
making some kind of personal attack.

[Clyde Slick]

On Apr 15, 9:28*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

\
>
> Typical of your insane comparisons, ****R. I've had over 10 years to put
> people down,

Arny's been there, done that, and proud of it.
He wins the golden turdy. pants down.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 15, 8:28 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >

> >> It's quite obvious why ****R is here - he's here to
> >> boost his wounded ego by summarily putting down just
> >> about everybody he responds to. That's all this hole
> >> needs - another Middiot! :-(
> > Don't be sad, GOIA, as what you've claimed isn't true at all.
>
> Which part?
>
> The part about you Mr. ****R putting people down is an observable fact.

You've dropped the claim "most people". Thank you for agreeing with me
that your claim was false. ;-)

> The part about whether or not RAO is a hole, is an observable fact.

Well, you are here, after all...

> The part about RAO not needing another Middiot might be controversial.

Ah, the Evil One. Master George. How he does control you! LOL!

> > The list of people that I've responded to and not "put
> > down" is far, far longer than the list of those that I
> > have.
>
> Typical of your insane comparisons, ****R.

That was, of course, in response to your claim. So if there is any
"insanity" to be had... LOL!

> I've had over 10 years to put
> people down, and you've been posting here for just a year or two. Back in
> the day, the activity level around here was easily 20 or 30 times what it is
> now. You're catching up with me even though you have 20 or 30 less times
> fewer targets. Furthermore, I don't put people down unless they make
> personal attacks on me. You do it, regardless.

Everybody makes a personal attack on you. That's part or your
insanity: imaginary personal attacks.

You attack people because they do agree with your views about audio.

> > Since my sanity isn't, um, "up to par" I
> > am not capable of processing that, so I'll let
> > this slip.
>
> See what I mean, ****R? It's virtually impossible for me to post without
> dreaming of a nice tasty snack of human turds.

Isn't that fun, GOIA?

GOIA, if somebody says "GOIA is wearing a blue suit" it is not a
personal attack.

[Clyde Slick]

On 15 Apr, 18:52, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:


>
> GOIA, if somebody says "GOIA is wearing a blue suit" it is not a
> personal attack.


Not even if I mention the brown streaks on its seat?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

>> GOIA, if somebody says "GOIA is wearing a blue suit" it is not a
>> personal attack.

>Not even if I mention the brown streaks on its seat?

The Kroo uses his sleeve as a napkin. It's a long tradition in his
"family".

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 15, 6:37*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 15 Apr, 18:52, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
>
> > GOIA, if somebody says "GOIA is wearing a blue suit" it is not a
> > personal attack.
>
> Not even if I mention the brown streaks on its seat?

GOIA even perceives compliments as insults.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Apr 15, 6:37 pm, Clyde Slick >
> wrote:
>> On 15 Apr, 18:52, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> GOIA, if somebody says "GOIA is wearing a blue suit" it
>>> is not a personal attack.
>>
>> Not even if I mention the brown streaks on its seat?
>
> GOIA even perceives compliments as insults.

No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really
are.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg's interior maelstrom peeks through the "polished" veener it
presents to the human world.

>No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really
>are.

You can tell that Arnii's been assiduous about keeping his crazy fluid
topped up.

[Clyde Slick]

On 16 Apr, 08:25, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >

>
> > GOIA even perceives compliments as insults.
>
> No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really
> are.



Such a strange God, you are. Does that ****head Jesus think the same
as you?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 16, 7:25*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > On Apr 15, 6:37 pm, Clyde Slick >
> > wrote:
> >> On 15 Apr, 18:52, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> GOIA, if somebody says "GOIA is wearing a blue suit" it
> >>> is not a personal attack.
>
> >> Not even if I mention the brown streaks on its seat?
>
> > GOIA even perceives compliments as insults.
>
> No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really
> are.

Did you learn this in church, GOIA?

LOL!

[Vinylanach]

On Apr 16, 6:42�am, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> The Krooborg's interior maelstrom peeks through the "polished" veener it
> presents to the human world.
>
> >No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really
> >are.
>
> You can tell that Arnii's been assiduous about keeping his crazy fluid
> topped up.

Agreed. I've got my DSM-IV out, and his response is a textbook
example of about a half-dozen serious personality disorders.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Vinylanach" > wrote in message


> Agreed. I've got my DSM-IV out,

Hmm, perhaps Marc is trying to follow that old adage: "Know thyself". ;-)

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Ding ding ding! We have an IKYABWAI winner!

>>> The Krooborg's interior maelstrom peeks through the "polished" veener it
>>> presents to the human world.

>>> >No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really are.

>>> You can tell that Arnii's been assiduous about keeping his crazy fluid
>>> topped up.

>> Agreed. I've got my DSM-IV out, and his response is a textbook
>> example of about a half-dozen serious personality disorders.

>Hmm, perhaps Marc is trying to follow that old adage: "Know thyself". ;-)

[streamers and flashing lights go off]

An historic post by the Krooborg. That is Arnii's 1,000,000th IKYABWAI.
Truly a great day in "debating trade" annals!

[bells ring and fireworks explode]

Turdy, your perseverance is remarkable. Nobody on RAO thought you'd make
100,000 IKYABWAIs, but you proved us all wrong. And now you've surpassed
every conceivable limitation on derivativeness, imitativeness, and
triteness by knocking out your one-millionth IKYABWAI. What stamina
you've shown! What rooty-tooty grittiness you carry!

As you know, the prize that commemorates your achievement is of the DIY
variety. You'll need to supply your own pumping truck and holding tank.
The ketchup and noseplugs are on us, though. Enjoy your bottomless
feast!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 18, 12:45*pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Ding ding ding! We have an IKYABWAI winner!
>
> >>> The Krooborg's interior maelstrom peeks through the "polished" veener it
> >>> presents to the human world.
> >>> >No, I perceive insults as the submissive acts of devotion that they really are.
> >>> You can tell that Arnii's been assiduous about keeping his crazy fluid
> >>> topped up.
> >> Agreed. *I've got my DSM-IV out, and his response is a textbook
> >> example of about a half-dozen serious personality disorders.
> >Hmm, perhaps Marc is trying to follow that old adage: "Know thyself". ;-)
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [streamers and flashing lights go off]
>
> An historic post by the Krooborg. That is Arnii's 1,000,000th IKYABWAI.
> Truly a great day in "debating trade" annals!

There is some debate among the judges, George. Some of them have the
count at 999,782.

They voted and decided to allow the celebration as GOIA would surpass
1,000,000 within the next couple of days regardless.

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Apr, 19:52, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:

>
> They voted and decided to allow the celebration as GOIA would surpass
> 1,000,000 within the next couple of days regardless.



I checked with Google, but it lied to me.