Beyerdynamic mics?

[Ken Platt]

One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
interest:
MC930
MC834
MCE530
MCE90
M160
M260.80
M422TG
OPUS 51
OPUS 65
OPUS 67
thanks for your time,
Ken

[John Noll]

Ken Platt wrote:
> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

201
160
Two of each.

--
--
John Noll
Retromedia Sound Studios
Red Bank, NJ 07701

Phone: 732-842-3853 Fax: 732-842-5631

http://www.retromedia.net

[BlacklineMusic]

Someone told me that the Beyer MC740 had the same capsule as a C12. He could
have been wrong, or maybe he was right.

[Ken Platt]

thanks Kurt and John
ken

"John L Rice" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ken Platt" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic
> gear
> > at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics
> (models,
> > uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> > experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the
> 58
> > type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> > interest:
> > MC930
> > MC834
> > MCE530
> > MCE90
> > M160
> > M260.80
> > M422TG
> > OPUS 51
> > OPUS 65
> > OPUS 67
> > thanks for your time,
> > Ken
> >
>
>
> Yes, like Kurt said get at least one M201. A great snare mic and if I get
> around to recording anything besides drums I'm sure it will work well for
> other things. I wish I had several. They also have a M101 which is an omni
> version of the hyper 201 I think but I'm not sure if they still make
those.
>
> I don't own any of the Beyer ribbon models but I always read good things
> about them ( M160, M130, R500 )
>
> Best of luck!
>
> John L Rice
>
>
>
>
>

[Peter B.]

(BlacklineMusic) wrote in message >...
> Someone told me that the Beyer MC740 had the same capsule as a C12. He could
> have been wrong, or maybe he was right.


I can't say if it's the same or not but it does have a brass ring. The
MC740 is an interesting mic. I love the mic but many seem to hate it
for some reason. I guess they are looking for an all purpose wonder
mic.

Peter

[Ty Ford]

In Article >, "Ken Platt"
> wrote:
>One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
>at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
>uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
>experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
>type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
>interest:
>MC930
>MC834
>MCE530
>MCE90
>M160
>M260.80
>M422TG
>OPUS 51
>OPUS 65
>OPUS 67
>thanks for your time,
>Ken
>
>

I've reviewed some of these over the last X years. This reviews are in the
Review Archive on my site.

Regards,

Ty Ford

For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews,
click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford

[HenryShap]

I have some of their ribbon mics and found them very useful. The m160 in
general, sometimes the m260 and m500.

I've heard very good things about the m88 dynamic. I'd like to get one myself
so if you can get extra, i'd be interested in buying one.

Henry


>One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
>at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
>uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
>experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the
>58
>type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
>interest:
>MC930
>MC834
>MCE530
>MCE90
>M160
>M260.80
>M422TG
>OPUS 51
>OPUS 65
>OPUS 67
>thanks for your time,
>Ken

[WillStG]

> (Peter B.)
>I can't say if it's the same or not but it does have a brass ring. The
>MC740 is an interesting mic. I love the mic but many seem to hate it
>for some reason. I guess they are looking for an all purpose wonder
>mic.

I love Beyer Dynamic mics. The MC740 is a very good mic, with a bit more
of a high end rise then most Beyer mics are known for. The cardiod only version
is the MC 834 IIRC.

Besides the popular ribbon Beyers (M160,M130, M260), I really like my/the
M69 and I have this old discontinued M320 ribbon which is a great sounding mic
in a plastic! shell... The M88 is a very nice mic you should check out as well.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Fox And Friends/Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[Kurt Albershardt]

DavidMackBlauvelt wrote:

> (WillStG) wrote in
> :
>
>> The M88 is a very nice mic you should check out as well.
>
> Are the new ones as good as the old ones?


IME the new M201TG is just as good as the M201 was. I loved my early
'80s M88s but I hear the new M88TG doesn't sound the same.

[Ty Ford]

In Article >,
(Chris Del Faro) wrote:
>Did an informal shoot-out with the M88TG vs. a Neumann U87ai, and the
>M88TG sounded somewhat better on my vocals. (running each through an
>Avalon 737).
>Preferred the top end tone of the Beyer. YMMV.
>
>
>Chris

Chris,

Not that I'm doubting you, but it's rare that a dynamic hypercardioid mic
positioned for vocals, brass and kick drum (beyer's words not mine) will out
do a U 87 i or U 78 ai in the studio.

You must have quite an unusual voice, and/or were in a pretty lively
acoutical environment.

Regards,

Ty Ford

For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews,
click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford

[WillStG]

(Ty Ford)

>...it's rare that a dynamic hypercardioid mic positioned for vocals, brass and
kick drum (beyer's words not mine) will out do a U 87 i or U 78 ai in the
studio. >

That's why the M88 and the M69 are nice mics to check out. I have often
thought my old school U87, Beyer M69 (also a dynamic hypercardiod) or Neumann
KMS84i could be used on a vocal track interchangibly depending on the singer
(not that they all have the same sonic signature, just that thet're all great
sounding mics with the right micpre.) The Sennheiser MD441 and MD431 are quite
nice dynamic hypercardiod's too.

Not that I'm a Ty Ford or anything.... <g>

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Fox And Friends/Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[Ken Platt]

All I can say for fear of blowing it for my partner (and me) is that
anything we buy and don't use will be offered here first at a great price.
I do really appreciate the input as we will not be able to audition the mics
before purchasing them. And no they did not fall off of a truck, but to
quote my partner 'only suckers pay retail.' I guess I've been a sucker most
of my life :)
thx
ken

"WillStG" > wrote in message
...
> >DavidMackBlauvelt
> >Any suggestions on yhe best place to buy new Beyers? Are the new ones as
> >good as the old ones?
>
> Well the original poster on this thread was saying he can get them
close to
> cost....
>
>
> Will Miho
> NY Music & TV Audio Guy
> Fox And Friends/Fox News
> "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits
>
>
>

[Mike Rivers]

In article > writes:

> Did an informal shoot-out with the M88TG vs. a Neumann U87ai, and the
> M88TG sounded somewhat better on my vocals.

OK. Next time we have an M88TG and need a vocal track, we'll call on
you.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

[Scott Dorsey]

Ken Platt > wrote:
>All I can say for fear of blowing it for my partner (and me) is that
>anything we buy and don't use will be offered here first at a great price.

I have never used anything from Beyer that I didn't like for something.
Although the new M-88 isn't anywhere near as good as the old one, it's still
not a bad mike at all. Same goes for the 260.

Get some 160s and 130s. You'll want them for something someday.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

BlacklineMusic > wrote:
>Someone told me that the Beyer MC740 had the same capsule as a C12. He could
>have been wrong, or maybe he was right.

He's wrong.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Luke Kaven]

(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>BlacklineMusic > wrote:
>>Someone told me that the Beyer MC740 had the same capsule as a C12. He could
>>have been wrong, or maybe he was right.
>
>He's wrong.
>--scott

Stephen Paul has told me that it is more like the capsule on the
Neumann TLM170.

Luke

[Ken Platt]

Good point. let me ammend that to anything we can't afford to keep :)
thx
kp

"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
> Amen to that. Although I wouldn't have the room, there's a ton of stuff I
> wish I'd never gotten rid of. Like my Rhodes (either one). No matter how
> good a synth or a sample, nothing quite sounds like a real Rhodes.
>
> --
>
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
>
> 301-585-4681
>
>
>
>
> "Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ken Platt > wrote:
> > >All I can say for fear of blowing it for my partner (and me) is that
> > >anything we buy and don't use will be offered here first at a great
> price.
> >
> > I have never used anything from Beyer that I didn't like for something.
> > Although the new M-88 isn't anywhere near as good as the old one, it's
> still
> > not a bad mike at all. Same goes for the 260.
> >
> > Get some 160s and 130s. You'll want them for something someday.
> > --scott
> > --
> > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[David 'db' Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[D. Butler]

Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

David

In article >,
"Ken Platt" > wrote:

> One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic gear
> at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics (models,
> uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the 58
> type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> interest:
> MC930
> MC834
> MCE530
> MCE90
> M160
> M260.80
> M422TG
> OPUS 51
> OPUS 65
> OPUS 67
> thanks for your time,
> Ken
>
>

--
David 'db' Butler, Consultant
Acoustics by db
"...all the rest are just brokers"
now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
Boston, Mass
Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590

[John L Rice]

Jeez David, after posting that 14 times in a row you almost had me sending
you prices . . . and I don't have any to send you! ;-)

John L Rice


"D. Butler" > wrote in message
...
> Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!
>
> David
>
> In article >,
> "Ken Platt" > wrote:
>
> > One of my partners is lucky enough to be able to get some Beyerdynamic
gear
> > at near cost. Can anyone with any recommendations about these mics
(models,
> > uses, price/performance, whatever) be kind enough to share their
> > experiences. All I've had the opportunity to use from their line is the
58
> > type dynamic. From browsing their website the following appeared of
> > interest:
> > MC930
> > MC834
> > MCE530
> > MCE90
> > M160
> > M260.80
> > M422TG
> > OPUS 51
> > OPUS 65
> > OPUS 67
> > thanks for your time,
> > Ken
> >
> >
>
> --
> David 'db' Butler, Consultant
> Acoustics by db
> "...all the rest are just brokers"
> now on the web at http://www.db-engineering.com
> Boston, Mass
> Phone 617 969-0585 Fax 617 964-1590
>

[LeBaron & Alrich]

D. Butler > wrote, fourteen times...

> Email me those prices: I will tell you if they are really "near cost"!

> David

Riiiiiight...
Riiiiiight...
Etc..........

--
ha

[Chris Del Faro]

(Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:<znr1059510406k@trad>...
> In article > writes:
>
> > Did an informal shoot-out with the M88TG vs. a Neumann U87ai, and the
> > M88TG sounded somewhat better on my vocals.
>
> OK. Next time we have an M88TG and need a vocal track, we'll call on
> you.

Mike, be careful what you wish for! <g>

Apologies to you, Will, and Ty, for not noticing your respective responses until
now.

Should note that the informal shootout was done without using any EQ of any
kind on either the U87ai or M88TG, only (fairly decent) microphone placement.
Maybe it's just that at this early point of the learning curve, the M88TG has a
"sound" that is attractive.

Ty, my voice isn't all that "unusual" BTW, it has a similar tone to singers like
Buddy Holly and Rick Nelson (although I sing/listen to a wide variety of music)

Chris

P.S. "DB", IYO, has the M88 worked well on as many singers as the MD421 in
your experience? (I know you think well of the 421)