Re: Effect of Room Sound in Close Mic'd Vox?

[Arny Krueger]

"FrankDebro1" > wrote in message


> SO, DOES THE ROOM MATTER WHEN CLOSE MIC'ING
> VOX.? I usually have the singer about 3 inches from the pop screen
> which is two inches off the mic. I plan on doing some A/B tests with
> the singer in the live room, but I would like to hear your comments
> as well.

I multitrack record live music in a very reverberent room. One dedicated
track for every vocalist's mic (SM57 with foam ball). The vocalists usually
hold the mics within 3 inches of their mouths or less. Yet, the room reverb
is clearly audible in every mic track. I have a dedicated track for a PZM
inside the piano, which is at most open to the first notch. Room reverb gets
in there, too.

I've heard other people record vocal tracks like these, that were very dead.
Must be the room.

[EggHd]

<< SO, DOES THE ROOM MATTER WHEN CLOSE
MIC'ING VOX.? >>

I think so.



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[Ricky W. Hunt]

"EggHd" > wrote in message
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> << SO, DOES THE ROOM MATTER WHEN CLOSE
> MIC'ING VOX.? >>

Sure.

[LeBaron & Alrich]

FrankDebro1 > wrote:

> Now the question: I've been recording vox right in this room. I figured that
> many people record vox in very dry vocal booths. BUT, I find that when I
> listen back to the vox without effects, its SO dry and sounds very dead and I
> really have to wet it down with verb and delays to set it back in the mix.
> I've been told that in most studios, singers go in the live room and just have
> a few baffles to control reflections. SO, DOES THE ROOM MATTER WHEN CLOSE
> MIC'ING VOX.? I usually have the singer about 3 inches from the pop screen
> which is two inches off the mic. I plan on doing some A/B tests with the
> singer in the live room, but I would like to hear your comments as well.

With such a room as you have, very close micing of vox is the only
option, and still, the "room" gets in there, doesn't it? So, yes, I
think room sound can be a big part of getting something captured nicely.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

[Don Cooper]

LeBaron & Alrich wrote:

> With such a room as you have, very close micing of vox is the only
> option, and still, the "room" gets in there, doesn't it? So, yes, I
> think room sound can be a big part of getting something captured nicely.


Years ago, someone wrote in an article, "the effect of a room on sound
is not unlike the effect of a grater on cheese."


Don

[Ricky W. Hunt]

"Don Cooper" > wrote in message
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>
>
> LeBaron & Alrich wrote:
>
> > With such a room as you have, very close micing of vox is the only
> > option, and still, the "room" gets in there, doesn't it? So, yes, I
> > think room sound can be a big part of getting something captured nicely.
>
>
> Years ago, someone wrote in an article, "the effect of a room on sound
> is not unlike the effect of a grater on cheese."

My biggest problem is the "boxy" sound of my small room (13x'13'x8'). I use
the same room for everything so it's trapped (and not that well) and I think
that makes the bass range sound horrible when recording vocals. I don't know
what I'm going to do.