Re: Neve 1073 clones for vocal applications

[Fletcher]

Gaffpro wrote:

> Fletcher, Nathan, and everyone else:
> I need to buy one of these now - from what I've read on these posts,
> some are better for instruments, some are better for vocals,etc.

Sure... but there are no rules I know of about which is better where...
only what appeals to your sense of aesthetic.

>
>
> If you could afford only one of these for the time being, what would
> work the best for my applications?:
>
> Great River mp-n1v
> Phoenix Audio
> Vintech x73
> Brent Averill

You forgot to add the Chandler "LTD"... another in the ever increasing
line of 'N-word esque' products.

Bro, it's impossible for someone who has never heard you stuff, has no
idea about your goals nor the arrangements of your music to give you
anything resembling an intelligent answer on what would or would not be
appropriate for your applications.

>
>
> The Vintech intrigued me because of the EQ. Would it be better to go
> with something else on the list and buy separate eq?

At least on the Vintech I played with, albeit a year or so ago... I
thought the EQ was miles better than the mic pre... but not quite worth
the price of admission.

>
>
> What would be the best bang for the buck if I'm laying down several
> tracks of vocals (Beach Boys, etc.)?
>
> Also, any opinions on the Geoff Daking models vs the Neve clones?

They're awesome... different, but awesome none the less... another case
where I [personal opinion which may or may not be even remotely relevant
to your reality] thought the EQ was a measure cooler than the pre-amp...
but it really is all a matter of personal taste.
--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
TEL: 508-543-0069
FAX: 508-543-9670
http://www.mercenary.com
"this is not a problem"

[Rick Ruskin]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:40:29 GMT, (LeBaron &
Alrich) wrote:

>Fletcher > wrote:
>
>> Bro, it's impossible for someone who has never heard you stuff, has no
>> idea about your goals nor the arrangements of your music to give you
>> anything resembling an intelligent answer on what would or would not be
>> appropriate for your applications.
>
>Ignore this Fletcher guy; he'll just confuse you with possibilities,
>options, and realities. It can take so long to try everything he
>suggests you'd never record anything at all.
>
>Get the Great River MP1-NV and a Speck ASC EQ and go to work recording
>stuff. Look around later if you need different. But whatever vocalizing
>you want to capture, it won't fall short for reasons of kit if you throw
>those at it.
>
>Mercenary Audio, Studio Tech supply, and other reputable sales weasels
>likely have those in stock, now.

Hey Hank,

Remember that I sell those puppies, too.



Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com

[Nathan Eldred]

(Gaffpro) wrote:


> Fletcher, Nathan, and everyone else:
> I need to buy one of these now - from what I've read on these posts,
> some are better for instruments, some are better for vocals,etc.
>
> If you could afford only one of these for the time being, what would
> work the best for my applications?:
>
> Great River mp-n1v
> Phoenix Audio
> Vintech x73
> Brent Averill

Wrote a response, but I don't think it went through, so...they all
make great gear and you are not going to have a redudant situation if
you own one or more of these units as you mentioned. The best thing
to do is narrow it down to what you really need. Are you reaching for
EQ because of a lack of the right kinds of microphones? If that's the
case maybe you should split the difference and concentrate on a better
high quality utility mic and one preamp.

Or is the mic(s) completely taken care of and an EQ is needed to take
it to the next level once the higher quality preamp is in place? One
preamp/EQ and one preamp is going to yield a world of variety and
possibilities. And in that case, I would buy a one channel preamp
that is most different than the preamp/EQ model. For instance a 1NV
and a Daking are quite different, and a DRS-1 and a Vintech X73 are
very different. Or perhaps the most important thing for you right now
is stereo or dual mono recording. Are you recording drums
(overheads), or bass guitar with DI and mic?

Once you narrow those choices down, I think it may be a little easier
deciding on what you need from a critical perspective and will
alleviate much of the confusion.

Take care, and best of luck with your search.

Nathan Eldred
http://www.atlasproaudio.com







>
>
>
>
> The Vintech intrigued me because of the EQ. Would it be better to go
> with something else on the list and buy separate eq?
>
> What would be the best bang for the buck if I'm laying down several
> tracks of vocals (Beach Boys, etc.)?
>
> Also, any opinions on the Geoff Daking models vs the Neve clones?

[Fletcher]

Rick Ruskin wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:40:29 GMT, (LeBaron &
> Alrich) wrote:
>
> <snip happens>
> >
> >Mercenary Audio, Studio Tech supply, and other reputable sales weasels
> >likely have those in stock, now.
>
> Hey Hank,
>
> Remember that I sell those puppies, too.
>
> Rick Ruskin
> Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
> http://liondogmusic.com



Geez Rick... you're a great guy and all but how the **** does that make you
'reputable'? (_8(l) D'oh...
--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
TEL: 508-543-0069
FAX: 508-543-9670
http://www.mercenary.com
"this is not a problem"

[Rick Ruskin]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:53:31 GMT, Fletcher >
wrote:

>Rick Ruskin wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:40:29 GMT, (LeBaron &
>> Alrich) wrote:
>>
>> <snip happens>
>> >
>> >Mercenary Audio, Studio Tech supply, and other reputable sales weasels
>> >likely have those in stock, now.
>>
>> Hey Hank,
>>
>> Remember that I sell those puppies, too.
>>
>> Rick Ruskin
>> Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
>> http://liondogmusic.com
>
>
>
>Geez Rick... you're a great guy and all but how the **** does that make you
>'reputable'? (_8(l) D'oh...


Still ****ed about that swamp land in Florida you bought from me?


Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com

[Mike Caffrey]

In article >,
(Nathan Eldred) wrote:

> (Gaffpro) wrote:
>
>
> > Fletcher, Nathan, and everyone else:
> > I need to buy one of these now - from what I've read on these posts,
> > some are better for instruments, some are better for vocals,etc.
> >
> > If you could afford only one of these for the time being, what would
> > work the best for my applications?:
> >
> > Great River mp-n1v
> > Phoenix Audio
> > Vintech x73
> > Brent Averill
>
I've only used the Great River and acutal 1073's. Yesterday I chose the
Great River for kick and snare over the (incredibly mint condition)
1073's. Vocals went through a 1073 however.

I think the X73 is the same price as a pair of NVs. I might choose the
pair over the single with EQ if I was recording bands with drums and
overdubbing vocals.



www.monsterisland.com

[Fletcher]

Rick Ruskin wrote:

>
> Still ****ed about that swamp land in Florida you bought from me?

Nope. The gator farm we built is doing very nicely... we should have the line
of boots on the market sometime in 2006... but the best part is that we've never
had claim on "workman's comp" or "unemployment".

Worked out far better than expected!! Thanks again Rick for all of your help
and assistance with that!! If you're running your audio thing with half the
foresight that went into that purchase... I'm sure you have them lined up around
the block!!!!!!!!!
--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
TEL: 508-543-0069
FAX: 508-543-9670
http://www.mercenary.com
"this is not a problem"

[R Krizman]

<< you're running your audio thing with half the
foresight that went into that purchase... I'm sure you have them lined up
around
the block!!!!!!!!!
--
Fletcher >><BR><BR>


Alligators?

[Nathan Eldred]

Fletcher > wrote:

If you're running your audio thing with half the
> foresight that went into that purchase... I'm sure you have them lined up around
> the block!!!!!!!!!



With pitchforks and torches in hand...

-----------------
Nathan Eldred
http://www.atlasproaudio.com

[Rick Ruskin]

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:42:03 GMT, Fletcher >
wrote:

>Rick Ruskin wrote:
>
>>
>> Still ****ed about that swamp land in Florida you bought from me?
>
>Nope. The gator farm we built is doing very nicely... we should have the line
>of boots on the market sometime in 2006... but the best part is that we've never
>had claim on "workman's comp" or "unemployment".
>
>Worked out far better than expected!! Thanks again Rick for all of your help
>and assistance with that!! If you're running your audio thing with half the
>foresight that went into that purchase... I'm sure you have them lined up around
>the block!!!!!!!!!


What can I say. I needed the cash for the bridge that I turned around
to Harvey at a nice profit.



Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com

[LeBaron & Alrich]

Nathan Eldred > wrote:

> With pitchforks and torches in hand...

Tuning forks and tiki torches...

--
ha