Re: OT Roger McGuinn to sue Gates

[Richard Kuschel]

>Subject: OT Roger McGuinn to sue Gates
>From: (Steve)
>Date: 7/23/03 4:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>I read today that Roger McGuinn intends to sue Microsoft for nicking
>the
>first four notes of Eight Miles High to use on the Windoze XP
>closedown
>sound. Does that four note sequence occure in any other published
>music? Are four notes enough to copyrite?
>
>Steve Lane
>
>

Whether it is or not depends upon the court's interpretation.

Saturday Night Live lost a four note case.
I love New York.

Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Jay S-G]

He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?

Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
Think of Beethoven's ninth...

[reddred]

"Charles Tomaras" > wrote in message
...
> Seems that most of the music I hear these days is just using the same
twelve
> tones over and over in different combinations.
>

dammit, i thought we were past all that...

jb

[Analogeezer]

(Steve) wrote in message >...
> I read today that Roger McGuinn intends to sue Microsoft for nicking
> the
> first four notes of Eight Miles High to use on the Windoze XP
> closedown
> sound. Does that four note sequence occure in any other published
> music? Are four notes enough to copyrite?
>
> Steve Lane

Only if Microsoft doubled the notes and octave apart <g>

Small bit of trivia...Keith Emerson and Carl Palmer's late 80's "pop"
band called "3" (with Robert Berry on bass and vocals) did a cover of
Eight Miles High.

Talk about a different take on that motif...Emo kind of jacks it up a
helluva lot, you can hardly tell it's the same song. I'm sure Byrd's
fans and classic rock people would cringe at their version but it was
actually pretty cool, in no way did they try and make it sound like
the original.

Not sure who's idea it was to cover it (Berry's maybe?) but I'm pretty
sure it wasn't Emerson's idea.

Hey that's an idea for another thread....bizzarest cover versions
(e.g. Devo doing Satisfaction); probably already been done on R.A.P.
though.

Analogeezer

[Rob Adelman]

Hey, I can name that tune in 1 note! ;)

Steve wrote:
> I read today that Roger McGuinn intends to sue Microsoft for nicking
> the
> first four notes of Eight Miles High to use on the Windoze XP
> closedown
> sound. Does that four note sequence occure in any other published
> music? Are four notes enough to copyrite?
>
> Steve Lane

[Charles Tomaras]

Seems that most of the music I hear these days is just using the same twelve
tones over and over in different combinations.

"Jay S-G" > wrote in message
m...
> He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?
>
> Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
> Think of Beethoven's ninth...

[Ben Bradley]

In rec.audio.pro, "Charles Tomaras" > wrote:

>Seems that most of the music I hear these days is just using the same twelve
>tones over and over in different combinations.

It seems like this could create a row.

>"Jay S-G" > wrote in message
m...
>> He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?
>>
>> Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
>> Think of Beethoven's ninth...
>
>

[bill turner]

In article >,
(Ben Bradley) wrote:

> In rec.audio.pro, "Charles Tomaras" > wrote:
>
> >Seems that most of the music I hear these days is just using the same twelve
> >tones over and over in different combinations.
>
> It seems like this could create a row.

Heh. "But serially, folks..."


> >"Jay S-G" > wrote in message
> m...
> >> He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?
> >>
> >> Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
> >> Think of Beethoven's ninth...
> >
> >
>
>

[EganMedia]

My 98 Jetta plays the first nine notes of the Mexican Hat Dance over and over
again when you open the drivers' door with the keys in the ignition.
Coincidence? Nine notes? I don't think so.



Joe Egan
EMP
Colchester, VT
www.eganmedia.com

[Greg Andrews]

(Jay S-G) writes:
>He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?
>
>Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
>Think of Beethoven's ninth...
>

Ninth? It was the Fifth that had the famous four-note intro phrase.

-Greg
--
::::::::::::: Greg Andrews ::::: :::::::::::::
Doomp Doomp Doomp . Da-Doomp Doomp Doomp Da-Doomp

[Rob Adelman]

EganMedia wrote:
> My 98 Jetta plays the first nine notes of the Mexican Hat Dance over and over
> again when you open the drivers' door with the keys in the ignition.
> Coincidence? Nine notes? I don't think so.

Cell phone ringer tones is big business. Artists are being paid
royalties for the use of their songs for them.

-Rob

[David Morley]

In article >,
"Charles Tomaras" > wrote:

> Seems that most of the music I hear these days is just using the same twelve
> tones over and over in different combinations.

only due to autotune ;-)

[no spam]

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:14:02 -0500, Rob Adelman >
wrote:

>Hey, I can name that tune in 1 note! ;)

Perhaps Jobim will sue for ripping off the one note samba next.
Paul Gitlitz
Glitchless Productions
www.glitchless.net

[Rob Adelman]

Peter B. wrote:

> Cell phone tunes are near the top of my list of annoying sounds
> encountered in public. One or two beeps with the vibrate setting on is
> enough most of the time. I have to admit though that the new phones
> with 4 note poly and a drum kit are kind of neat.

Yes! I am so sick of it. Just today a coworkers phone sitting on her
desk just kept playing some stupid simulated song. I so would like to
take a sledge hammer to it! I wish the damn things would just ring.

[Analogeezer]

(Jay S-G) wrote in message >...
> >
> > Ninth? It was the Fifth that had the famous four-note intro phrase.
> >
> > -Greg
>
> Duh -- of course Beethoven's Fifth! Or better yet A Fifth of Beethoven!

Actually that would be Duh Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhh

Analogeezer

[Chris/Power Salad]

On 23 Jul 2003 10:02:09 -0700,
(Analogeezer) wrote:

>Hey that's an idea for another thread....bizzarest cover versions
>(e.g. Devo doing Satisfaction)

Hands down, way up there has to be Shockabilly's version of Roger
Miller's "Dang Me" - utterly indescribable. One of my favorite
recordings.

[dt king]

"Jonas Eckerman" > wrote in message
. 1...
> >> Think of Beethoven's ninth...
>
> > Yes, and I think somewhere on his website he said it was a joke.
>
> Beethoven had a web site?

www.beethoven.com

dtk

[Richard Kuschel]

>From: Boulton
>Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2003 1:40 PM
>Message-id: >
>
>
>The law states that it takes seven consecutive notes to be deemed
>copied. Every thing on it's own merits though I suppose
>
>
>--
>Boulton
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seven notes? Where did you get that?
Quote the law.


Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Fred]

"Jay S-G" > wrote in message
m...
> He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?
>
> Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
> Think of Beethoven's ninth...

Surely you mean Beethoven's fifth symphony?

Fred.

[Steve Jorgensen]

It seems to me, one should have to copy the notes and the timing to have an
infringement, and 4 notes would be borderline/subjective. It would depend how
distinctive the sequence sounds.

On 23 Jul 2003 08:56:37 -0700, (Jay S-G) wrote:

>He nicked those four notes from Coltrane, didn't he?
>
>Sequences of notes (melody) are copyrite-able. I think four is enough.
>Think of Beethoven's ninth...

[LeBaron & Alrich]

Analogeezer > wrote:

> I'm still waiting for Terry Riley to sue some people for ripping off
> his "In C".

Won't happen; the beat loopers use only the intro from that.

--
ha

[Mark Steven Brooks]

<< Think of Beethoven's ninth...

> > Yes, and I think somewhere on his website he said it was a joke.
>>


And as we all know:

Q: What's brown and sits on a piano stool?

A: Beethoven's last movement.
(Mark Steven Brooks/Elaterium Music)

[Charles Thomas]

In article >,
(Chris Smalt) wrote:

> > I've heard MANY cell phones that use the fourth movement of the 9th
> > Symphony as a ring tone.
> >
> > Of course, it would probably take most people 8 notes to name that one.
>
>
> It would probably take most people a better musical education to
> actually *name* it.


To be honest, I only know it by name because of "A Clockwork Orange".

Hee!

CT