Bright vocal microphone

[Lars]

Hello everyone,

I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
$600 (used or new)?

I am also looking for a good omni mic to pick up ambience. It should
have as detailed sound as possible, be quiet, yet fall within the
economic restrictions mentioned above. Does anyone have any tips?
Perhaps of a microphone with switchable characteristics that can cover
both my needs?

thanks!
/Lars

[Scott Dorsey]

Lars > wrote:
>
>I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
>condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
>has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
>best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
>$600 (used or new)?

Does it have to be a large diaphragm, or would the Neumann KMS105 do it
for you?

>I am also looking for a good omni mic to pick up ambience. It should
>have as detailed sound as possible, be quiet, yet fall within the
>economic restrictions mentioned above. Does anyone have any tips?
>Perhaps of a microphone with switchable characteristics that can cover
>both my needs?

How about the Audio-Technica AT4049?
In a pinch, the EV 635A isn't all that bad an ambience mike. No top end
and no bottom end, but it works better than you might think, and it's cheap.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[kelly mcguire]

(Lars) wrote in message >...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
> condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
> has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
> best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
> $600 (used or new)?
>
> I am also looking for a good omni mic to pick up ambience. It should
> have as detailed sound as possible, be quiet, yet fall within the
> economic restrictions mentioned above. Does anyone have any tips?
> Perhaps of a microphone with switchable characteristics that can cover
> both my needs?
>
> thanks!
> /Lars

Easy. for the first request, check out the Audio Technica stuff like
a 4033 or 4047. Studio Projects C-1, Marshall V69, all falling under
your budget. Used you can get more; AT4050, maybe even a TLM103.
try an Earthworks SRO omni at around $350...or the 4050 listed above
set to omni. matter of fact any of these mics might work picking up
room sound in the right environment.
good luck,
kelly

[Raymond]

>Lars > wrote:

>>I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
>>condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
>>has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
>>best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
>>$600 (used or new)?

I've been using an AT4047sv ($599.00 new) it has all your looking for but it's
more of the FET (more warm than bright) sound.

[Don Cooper]

Scott Dorsey wrote:

> In a pinch, the EV 635A isn't all that bad an ambience mike. No top end
> and no bottom end, but it works better than you might think, and it's cheap.


635A's were the first pro mics I had, and I even recorded vocals with
them in the '80's.


Don

[Darrell Klein]

(Lars) wrote in message >...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
> condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
> has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
> best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
> $600 (used or new)?
>
> I am also looking for a good omni mic to pick up ambience. It should
> have as detailed sound as possible, be quiet, yet fall within the
> economic restrictions mentioned above. Does anyone have any tips?
> Perhaps of a microphone with switchable characteristics that can cover
> both my needs?
>
> thanks!
> /Lars


Not quite responsive, but... the AT 4033a is about 20mm or so and fits
the description fairly well, can be had for about $200.00 used on eBay
and has other applications you might like it on.

MXL 603s (also about 20mm) is about $70.00 new and is not omni, but
has a wide cardiod pattern and can also be used for drum overheads and
even a fair snare mic.

The MXL 1006 or 67 are both sub $100 and could be of interest. I have
all of the above and use them all a fair bit. Of course, I am a
bottom-feeder.

[Richard Morrow]

(Lars) wrote in message >...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
> condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
> has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
> best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
> $600 (used or new)?
>
> I am also looking for a good omni mic to pick up ambience. It should
> have as detailed sound as possible, be quiet, yet fall within the
> economic restrictions mentioned above. Does anyone have any tips?
> Perhaps of a microphone with switchable characteristics that can cover
> both my needs?
>
> thanks!
> /Lars

Two mics come into my perspective of bright mics (IMHO).
For $995 you can get a B.L.U.E. Blueberry. A really great sounding mic
for the money. Both are cardioid.
Another thought is an AKG 451 EB with a B.L.U.E. Lollipop tuned C12
capsule. I picked up an AKG on E-Bay for $270 and the Lollipop from
B.L.U.E. cost $450.
R. Morrow

[Garthrr]

In article >, (Scott Dorsey)
writes:

>How about the Audio-Technica AT4049?

4049? Is that a new model or just one I missed?

Garth~


"I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle."
Ed Cherney

[Roger W. Norman]

I almost always use the 4050 in figure of eight and it seems to do quite
fine. Still has proximity effect if one gets up on it, but mostly I try to
keep talent back about 15 to 18 inches. Providing that the room sounds ok,
this seems to work very well. If I'm singing, it's cardioid in the control
room, so that doesn't count. Live I generally use it in figure of eight
also, but you have to configure monitors correctly or it's major feedback
time. But the Neumann KMS105 effectively took the live spot over with a
Beta 87 for duets. Did use the 4050 for backup vocals (omni, believe it or
not) from 3 people live and it worked well even if the singers weren't used
to working that way.

But I'd never consider a 4050 bright. A 4033 more closely fits that
requirement and Ty has had some good things to say about the AT AE5400
handheld condenser with the pad and roll-off (Neumann-like I believe he
said). Again, bright isn't the word I'd use to describe the Neumann 105
either.

On the cheap end I found the MXL 990s to be a little brighter but still well
focused. Surprisingly good sounding mic for $69 with case and shockmount.
Decent enough that I bought two. I've tested it with voice, but I have not
sung into one yet and it's cardioid only.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

301-585-4681




"kelly mcguire" > wrote in message
om...
> (Lars) wrote in message
>...
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am recording my band and I am looking for a cardiod large-diaphragm
> > condenser that is pretty bright without sounding too "hollow". Budget
> > has some... ehrm.. limitations, so what does everyone think is the
> > best microphone with these characteristics that I can get for under
> > $600 (used or new)?
> >
> > I am also looking for a good omni mic to pick up ambience. It should
> > have as detailed sound as possible, be quiet, yet fall within the
> > economic restrictions mentioned above. Does anyone have any tips?
> > Perhaps of a microphone with switchable characteristics that can cover
> > both my needs?
> >
> > thanks!
> > /Lars
>
> Easy. for the first request, check out the Audio Technica stuff like
> a 4033 or 4047. Studio Projects C-1, Marshall V69, all falling under
> your budget. Used you can get more; AT4050, maybe even a TLM103.
> try an Earthworks SRO omni at around $350...or the 4050 listed above
> set to omni. matter of fact any of these mics might work picking up
> room sound in the right environment.
> good luck,
> kelly

[Chris Del Faro]

Also try out the Studio Projects lines;
1) C3 and/or T3 for LD condenser.
2) C4 for matched pair SD condensers with omni and cardiod capsules
(under $400)

If you e-mail them at www.studioprojectsusa.com they have free
"listening CD's" available of their microphones BTW.

Chris

[OnDaDL247]

The Audio-Technica AT4049 is good.


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[Roger W. Norman]

Let's see, it's 2003. Yeah, they've probably done something minor to one of
their line mics and given it a new name and face for another $1000 retail!
<g> Can't stop twiddling now! <g>

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

301-585-4681




"R Krizman" > wrote in message
...
> I think Neumann has a new generation version of the TLM 103 that will go
omni.
>
> -R