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January 22nd 08, 04:46 PM
Hello again,
there has been a lot of chat lately about Goldmund using bog
standard Pioneer boards and transports (and remotes) for their $12,000
CD player, this is interesting but what intrigues me more is one of
their press releases where they announce their FAST power cable.
Perhaps I am being ignorant, probably, but isnt the speed at which you
get electrons from the socket to the device round about 46% of the
speed of light assuming a passive conductor. If so how does Goldmund
get the electrons there faster and does it matter. Also given a 50/60
hz cycle does this make any sense at all ?

Puzzled of Philadelphia

Walt
January 22nd 08, 06:47 PM
wrote:

> Perhaps I am being ignorant, probably, but isnt the speed at which you
> get electrons from the socket to the device round about 46% of the
> speed of light assuming a passive conductor.

No. The electrons move very slowly. The voltage (pressure) propagates
at near the speed of light, but the particles themselves move really slowly.

>If so how does Goldmund
> get the electrons there faster and does it matter.

Two words: Snake oil.

> Also given a 50/60 hz cycle does this make any sense at all ?

Nope.

//Walt

George M. Middius
January 22nd 08, 07:05 PM
François Yves Le Gal said:

> >they announce their FAST power cable.

> Yeah, you can buy a Porsche much FASTer.

This remark gives some insight into the mystery of why Jerry Lewis is so
popular in France.

Walt
January 22nd 08, 08:01 PM
MiNe 109 wrote:

> Who wants a slow power cord?

I do. In fact, I prefer mine to be stationary.

//Walt

Trevor Wilson[_2_]
January 22nd 08, 08:04 PM
> wrote in message
...
> Hello again,
> there has been a lot of chat lately about Goldmund using bog
> standard Pioneer boards and transports (and remotes) for their $12,000
> CD player, this is interesting but what intrigues me more is one of
> their press releases where they announce their FAST power cable.
> Perhaps I am being ignorant, probably, but isnt the speed at which you
> get electrons from the socket to the device round about 46% of the
> speed of light assuming a passive conductor. If so how does Goldmund
> get the electrons there faster and does it matter. Also given a 50/60
> hz cycle does this make any sense at all ?

**Of course not. You could, however, take them to task over this nonsense.
The one thing you DON'T want in a piece of hi fi equipment is any nasty high
frequency energy coming from the mains supply. IOW: ANYTHING other than
50Hz/60Hz sine wave is bad. What you really want is a SLOW mains cable (if
such a thing existed).

I'd complain to the company and tell that you want a slow mains cable, not a
fast one, as fast cables allow high frequency transients through. That
should send them scurrying.

Trevor Wilson

Arny Krueger
January 22nd 08, 09:19 PM
> wrote in message

> Hello again,
> there has been a lot of chat lately about Goldmund
> using bog standard Pioneer boards and transports (and
> remotes) for their $12,000 CD player, this is interesting
> but what intrigues me more is one of their press releases
> where they announce their FAST power cable. Perhaps I am
> being ignorant, probably, but isnt the speed at which you
> get electrons from the socket to the device round about
> 46% of the speed of light assuming a passive conductor.


No, that's the speed of a wave in a conductor. Electron flow is much
slower.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99092.htm


> If so how does Goldmund get the electrons there faster
> and does it matter.

Goldmund does not speed electrons nearly as much as they speed the flow of
your money into their bank accounts.

> Also given a 50/60 hz cycle does this make any sense at all ?

Perhaps the most difficult to understand of all is how the power travels all
that way on conventional power wiring, and presumably has all this
propensity towards bad sound imposed on it, and then the last 6 feet of
Goldmund power cable makes it all better again.

Eeyore
January 22nd 08, 09:38 PM
" wrote:

> but what intrigues me more is one of
> their press releases where they announce their FAST power cable.
> Perhaps I am being ignorant, probably, but isnt the speed at which you
> get electrons from the socket to the device round about 46% of the
> speed of light assuming a passive conductor.

NO, the electrons move much slower than that. They *vibrate* back and
forth in fact at 50/60Hz.

The *electric field* is what moves at some fraction of the speed of light.

Claims about 'fast' power cables are simply LIES and fraud.

Graham

Bob Woodward
January 23rd 08, 09:48 AM
wrote:
> Hello again,
> there has been a lot of chat lately about Goldmund

> FAST power cable.

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa

(and even louder)

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa !!!!!!!!!!!

Robert

January 23rd 08, 10:02 PM
On Jan 22, 4:19*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Hello again,
> > * * * *there has been a lot of chat lately about Goldmund
> > using bog standard Pioneer boards and transports (and
> > remotes) for their $12,000 CD player, this is interesting
> > but what intrigues me more is one of their press releases
> > where they announce theirFASTpowercable. Perhaps I am
> > being ignorant, probably, but isnt the speed at which you
> > get electrons from the socket to the device round about
> > 46% of the speed of light assuming a passive conductor.
>
> No, that's the speed of a wave in a conductor. *Electron flow is much
> slower.
>

Thanks for the link

> http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99092.htm
>
> > If so how does Goldmund get the electrons there faster
> > and does it matter.
>
> Goldmund does not speed electrons nearly as much as they speed the flow of
> your money into their bank accounts.

That is pretty funny


> > *Also given a 50/60 hz cycle does this make any sense at all ?
>
> Perhaps the most difficult to understand of all is how thepowertravels all
> that way on conventionalpowerwiring, and presumably has all this
> propensity towards bad sound imposed on it, and then the last 6 feet of
> Goldmundpowercablemakes it all better again.

That must be one of those zen things :-)