Best method to record calls on cellphone?

[Nehmo]

I have a Kyocera K132 Phone http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/k132-phone/
and my carrier is Cricket.

I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,
preferably to the hard drive of a desktop computer but some other
recording device wouldn't be out of the question. What's the best
method to go about this? Would one of those suction cup pick-ups work
as the input? Is there a commercially available microphone made for
this purpose that I can use? How do other people record their
cellphone conversations?

(Yes, I understand in some states have laws that require both parties
to agree to the recording. I'm not in one of those states; I'm in
Kansas where one party is enough. Besides, that's not what I hope to
discuss in this thread. Thanks.)

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(||) Nehmo (||)

[Dave Morrison]

Not sure if this will fit your situation, but it might be a start:
http://www.jkaudio.com/daptor2.htm

dave


"Nehmo" > wrote in message
...
>I have a Kyocera K132 Phone http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/k132-phone/
> and my carrier is Cricket.
>
> I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,
> preferably to the hard drive of a desktop computer but some other
> recording device wouldn't be out of the question. What's the best
> method to go about this? Would one of those suction cup pick-ups work
> as the input? Is there a commercially available microphone made for
> this purpose that I can use? How do other people record their
> cellphone conversations?
>
> (Yes, I understand in some states have laws that require both parties
> to agree to the recording. I'm not in one of those states; I'm in
> Kansas where one party is enough. Besides, that's not what I hope to
> discuss in this thread. Thanks.)
>
> --
>
> (||) Nehmo (||)

[Nehmo]

On Dec 20, 12:14 am, "Dave Morrison" > wrote:
> Not sure if this will fit your situation, but it might be a start:http://www.jkaudio.com/daptor2.htm
>
> dave

I forgot that the phone has a headset jack. The simplest solution
would be to use that jack somehow. I get a headphone that plugs in
there, and then tap into it. I have to figure out exactly how to do
this.

I'm not clear what that device (that you pointed to) does, but I don't
think it's necessary. It's expensive.

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(||) Nehmo (||)

[Mike Rivers]

On Dec 19, 7:23 pm, Nehmo > wrote:

> I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,
> preferably to the hard drive of a desktop computer but some other
> recording device wouldn't be out of the question. What's the best
> method to go about this? Would one of those suction cup pick-ups work
> as the input?

No. They only work on old telephones with transformers or an
electromagnetic transducer on the "receiver." You'd need to use the
"hands free" headset jack or, if your phone is Bluetooth-equipped, a
Bluetooth receiver modified with a line level output.

You could buy a cheap headset that fits the connector on your phone,
cut off the headset part, and experiment with what you get out of the
cable. You might find that there's enough "side tone" in the receiver
that you'll be able to record your side of the conversation as well as
the person on the other phone. Or maybe not and you'll have to tap
into the headset and mix the outgoing and incoming audio.

> Is there a commercially available microphone made for
> this purpose that I can use? How do other people record their
> cellphone conversations?

One device that's designed for this purpose is the Conex FlipJack:

http://www.conex-electro.com/FJ10/fj10.html

You'd probably need to adapt whatever headset jack your phone has in
order to connect it, but that shouldn't be a problem for a decent
technician or a good searcher.

[Kevin T]

http://www.jkaudio.com/celltap.htm


On Dec 20, 7:27 am, Mike Rivers > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 7:23 pm, Nehmo > wrote:
>
> > I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,
> > preferably to the hard drive of a desktop computer but some other
> > recording device wouldn't be out of the question. What's the best
> > method to go about this? Would one of those suction cup pick-ups work
> > as the input?
>
> No. They only work on old telephones with transformers or an
> electromagnetic transducer on the "receiver." You'd need to use the
> "hands free" headset jack or, if your phone is Bluetooth-equipped, a
> Bluetooth receiver modified with a line level output.
>
> You could buy a cheap headset that fits the connector on your phone,
> cut off the headset part, and experiment with what you get out of the
> cable. You might find that there's enough "side tone" in the receiver
> that you'll be able to record your side of the conversation as well as
> the person on the other phone. Or maybe not and you'll have to tap
> into the headset and mix the outgoing and incoming audio.
>
> > Is there a commercially available microphone made for
> > this purpose that I can use? How do other people record their
> > cellphone conversations?
>
> One device that's designed for this purpose is the Conex FlipJack:
>
> http://www.conex-electro.com/FJ10/fj10.html
>
> You'd probably need to adapt whatever headset jack your phone has in
> order to connect it, but that shouldn't be a problem for a decent
> technician or a good searcher.

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

> "Nehmo" > wrote in message
> ...

>> I have a Kyocera K132 Phone
>> http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/k132-phone/ and my carrier is
>> Cricket.

>> I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,

Dave Morrison wrote:


> Not sure if this will fit your situation, but it might be a start:
> http://www.jkaudio.com/daptor2.htm

I think some cellphones are able to do it, and then to export the file to a
computer.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[[email protected]]

On Dec 20, 8:52 am, Kevin T > wrote:
> http://www.jkaudio.com/celltap.htm
>
> On Dec 20, 7:27 am, Mike Rivers > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 19, 7:23 pm, Nehmo > wrote:
>
> > > I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,
> > > preferably to the hard drive of a desktop computer but some other
> > > recording device wouldn't be out of the question. What's the best
> > > method to go about this? Would one of those suction cup pick-ups work
> > > as the input?
>
> > No. They only work on old telephones with transformers or an
> > electromagnetic transducer on the "receiver." You'd need to use the
> > "hands free" headset jack or, if your phone is Bluetooth-equipped, a
> > Bluetooth receiver modified with a line level output.
>
> > You could buy a cheap headset that fits the connector on your phone,
> > cut off the headset part, and experiment with what you get out of the
> > cable. You might find that there's enough "side tone" in the receiver
> > that you'll be able to record your side of the conversation as well as
> > the person on the other phone. Or maybe not and you'll have to tap
> > into the headset and mix the outgoing and incoming audio.
>
> > > Is there a commercially available microphone made for
> > > this purpose that I can use? How do other people record their
> > > cellphone conversations?
>
> > One device that's designed for this purpose is the Conex FlipJack:
>
> >http://www.conex-electro.com/FJ10/fj10.html
>
> > You'd probably need to adapt whatever headset jack your phone has in
> > order to connect it, but that shouldn't be a problem for a decent
> > technician or a good searcher.

I did this recently on a film shoot. I bought a cheap hands free and
rewired to line level input to my mixer. Very simple.

Warren

[Preben Friis]

"Peter Larsen" > wrote
> I think some cellphones are able to do it, and then to export the file to
> a computer.

Yes, with a beeping sound every 5 seconds or so ... It is really annoying.

/Preben Friis

[Nehmo]

On Dec 20, 8:52 am, Kevin T > wrote:
> http://www.jkaudio.com/celltap.htm

It seems like that little box is what I want, but what's in it?
Probably not much. I suppose my next step is to get a handsfree
headset and cut the jack off. Then I can determine which wires do
what. There must be 3 wires and the arrangement must be standardized.
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(||) Nehmo (||)

[Mark]

On Dec 20, 3:05 pm, Nehmo > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 8:52 am, Kevin T > wrote:
>
> >http://www.jkaudio.com/celltap.htm
>
> It seems like that little box is what I want, but what's in it?
> Probably not much. I suppose my next step is to get a handsfree
> headset and cut the jack off. Then I can determine which wires do
> what. There must be 3 wires and the arrangement must be standardized.
> --
>
> (||) Nehmo (||)

a possible issue is the EMI.
The cellphone may interfere with your audio stuff so you may have to
keep it a foot or more away and maybe bluetooth is a good idea so no
wires...

Mark

[Mike Rivers]

On Dec 20, 3:05 pm, Nehmo > wrote:

> It seems like that little box is what I want, but what's in it?
> Probably not much.

Probably not much, and you could make something like that yourself, or
make an adapter cable to a small mixer. But since you asked, I assumed
you weren't up for a design and construction project.

> I suppose my next step is to get a handsfree
> headset and cut the jack off. Then I can determine which wires do
> what. There must be 3 wires and the arrangement must be standardized.

I'm sure they're standard. Apparently it only provides output from the
receiver and depends on the phone to send your voice to the receiver.
This is why the JK unit costs $79 and the Conex one that I suggested
costs $200 more. You probably won't find out if yours does for sure
(it's pretty hard to tell just by listening) until you try it.

Of course if you built your own, you could mix the input and output
from the headset and send that mix to the recorder. A box to use as a
junction, a headset, the adapter to your phone, and a $50 mixer would
do the job but it wouldn't be as neat and simple as a box built for
the purpose.

[beauchampy]

Peter Larsen wrote:
>> "Nehmo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> I have a Kyocera K132 Phone
>>> http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/k132-phone/ and my carrier is
>>> Cricket.
>
>>> I'd like to record both sides of my cellphone conversations,
>
> Dave Morrison wrote:
>
>
>> Not sure if this will fit your situation, but it might be a start:
>> http://www.jkaudio.com/daptor2.htm
>
> I think some cellphones are able to do it, and then to export the file to a
> computer.
>

My Nokia N95 does this no trouble.


>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen
>
>
>

[Angelo Campanella]

Nehmo wrote:
> Would one of those suction cup pick-ups work
> as the input?

Probably yes.

> Is there a commercially available microphone made for
> this purpose that I can use?

It is also possible to connect the earphone output of the phone into the
mic input of your computer. You need to devise a way to insert the audio
beeps into the phone mic input.

Ang. C.