Re: **** on Kyoto

[Eeyore]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
> > Are you suggesting a conspiracy ?
>
> No need to suggest it. It's an already proven fact. Or haven't you
> seen the Exxon memo?
>
> http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?ContentID=4870

environmentaldefense.org ??

Sounds like a k00k site.

I see they have a pediatrician on the Board.

Lynn R. Goldman, M.D., M.P.H.
Pediatrician; Professor, Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health
http://www.environmentaldefense.org/page.cfm?tagID=365

Since you're so anti having a multi-disciplinary panel, why is that ? Surely by your
standards she shouldn't be eligible.

I see it's the usual case of one set of standards for you and another set of standards for
everyone else.

There are plenty more ineligible (by your standard) non-scientists there too. Yet apparently
you would believe them over independent scientists commenting on their disciplines.

TWIT !

I challenge you to justify why these people are commenting on climate science when the vast
majority clearly have NO connection with the discipline AT ALL. Many are NOT EVEN SCIENTISTS,
yet you choose to believe them in preference to scientists.


Board of Trustees

N. J. Nicholas, Jr.
Chairman
Investor

Jane Lubchenco, Ph.D.
Vice Chair
Wayne & Gladys Valley Professor of Marine Biology, Oregon State University

Robert W. Wilson
Vice Chair
Investor

Arthur P. Cooley*
Secretary
Expedition leader and naturalist, Lindblad Expeditions

G. Leonard Baker, Jr.
Managing Director, Sutter Hill Ventures

Rod A. Beckstrom
Chairman and Chief Catalyst, TWIKI.NET, Inc.

James W. B. Benkard
Senior Counsel, Davis Polk & Wardwell

Sally G. Bingham, M.Div.
President, The Regeneration Project

Shelby W. Bonnie
Co-founder, CNET Networks

W. Michael Brown
Independent business consultant and investor

Norman L. Christensen, Jr., Ph.D.
Professor of Ecology, Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences, Duke University

Lewis B. Cullman
Chairman Emeritus, Chess-in-the-Schools

Ann Doerr
Philanthropist

Stanley Druckenmiller
Chairman and CEO, Duquesne Capital Management

Roger Enrico
Chairman, DreamWorks Animation, SKG; former Chairman and CEO, PepsiCo, Inc.

Kirsten J. Feldman
Advisory Director, Morgan Stanley

Carl Ferenbach
Managing Director, Berkshire Partners LLC

Jeanne Donovan Fisher
True Love Productions

Lynn R. Goldman, M.D., M.P.H.
Pediatrician; Professor, Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health

Robert E. Grady
Managing Director, The Carlyle Group

R. Jeremy Grantham
Chairman, Grantham Foundation for the Protection of the Environment; Chairman, GMO

Charles J. Hamilton, Jr.
Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP

The Honorable Thomas H. Kean
Chairman, Robert Wood Johnson Foundation

Arthur Kern
Investor

Frank Loy
Former Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs

Susan Mandel
Community Advocate

George G. Montgomery, Jr.
Senior Advisor, Seven Hills Group

David O'Connor
Managing Partner, Creative Artists Agency

Signe Ostby
Advisor, Center for Brand and Product Management, University of Wisconsin at Madison;
Director, The Intuit Scholarship Foundation

Stephen W. Pacala, Ph.D.
Petrie Professor of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology; Director of the Princeton Environmental
Institute, Princeton University

Robert M. Perkowitz
Managing Partner, VivaTerra LLC; President, ecoAmerica

Lewis S. Ranieri
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ranieri & Co., Inc.

Julian H. Robertson, Jr.
Founder and Chairman, Tiger Management, LLC

E. John Rosenwald, Jr.
Vice Chairman, Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc.

David J. Roux
Co-Chief Executive, Silver Lake

Peggy M. Shepard
Co-Founder and Executive Director, WE ACT for Environmental Justice

Douglas W. Shorenstein
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Adele Simmons
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Sam R. Walton
President, Restoration Works LLC

John H. T. Wilson
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Paul Junger Witt
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Joanne Woodward
Artistic Director, Westport Country Playhouse

Charles F. Wurster, Ph.D.*
Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, Marine Sciences Research Center, State
University of New York at Stony Brook
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Roland C. Clement
John W. Firor, Ph.D.
Gene E. Likens, Ph.D.
George M. Woodwell, Ph.D.*

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http://www.environmentaldefense.org/page.cfm?tagID=365


Graham

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 14, 2:45 pm, Eeyore >
wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:
>
> > Eeyore wrote:
>
> > > Are you suggesting a conspiracy ?
>
> > No need to suggest it. It's an already proven fact. Or haven't you
> > seen the Exxon memo?
>
> >http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?ContentID=4870
>
> environmentaldefense.org ??
>
> Sounds like a k00k site.

Yes, defending the environment. What a kooky idea!

> I see they have a pediatrician on the Board.

I don't particularly care if they have someone entirely unsuited to
comment on AGW (like an audio engineer) on the board. They have some
memos nobody seems able to discredit.

> Lynn R. Goldman, M.D., M.P.H.
> Pediatrician; Professor, Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Healthhttp://www.environmentaldefense.org/page.cfm?tagID=365
>
> Since you're so anti having a multi-disciplinary panel, why is that ? Surely by your
> standards she shouldn't be eligible.

To expose memos showing a conspiracy? Why not? LOL!

Moron.

> I see it's the usual case of one set of standards for you and another set of standards for
> everyone else.

I see you have trouble wiping your own ass after taking a ****. Not my
problem.

Discredit the memos, Poopie. (Since we're into the realm of insults
that you claimed were the sole device of AGW proponents, I guess all
of this is now acceptable). I did not refer you to those sites for any
other reason than that. Yet you remain silent on that point. Which you
brought up. Hm.

> There are plenty more ineligible (by your standard) non-scientists there too. Yet apparently
> you would believe them over independent scientists commenting on their disciplines.
>
> TWIT !

BUFFOON!

> I challenge you to justify why these people are commenting on climate science when the vast
> majority clearly have NO connection with the discipline AT ALL. Many are NOT EVEN SCIENTISTS,
> yet you choose to believe them in preference to scientists.

I challenge you to stay on-topic, Poopie. Please. LOL!

The memos are true. That was all we were addressing. In this case, if
a cook at McDonald's uncovered them, it matters not.

The point was that a conspiracy does indeed exist, just not the one
that you think. I see that you're trying to shift away from your own
question. Why?

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> *Founding Trusteeshttp://www.environmentaldefense.org/page.cfm?tagID=365

Which of these wrote the memos showing a conspiracy with ExxonMobil?
Those memos were not provided as "proof" of anything other than that a
conspiracy does indeed exist, in answer to a question you wrote.

Calling me "TWIT" does not change that. I have not been calling you
names until this post. I've been pretty polite to you. But it's time
to call a spade a spade:

What a ****ing moron. LOL!