Bounce to disk

[Jay[_11_]]

When I bounce to disk in PT 003 should I use 16 bit resolution or 24?
I mean when I bounce a track that I want to burn on a CD to listen to in a
good home stereo system.

The reason I ask is that there seem to be some burning software don't like
the 24 bit and will only burn 16 so I'm wandering if there are CD players
out there that won't play it either.

Thanks

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >, Jay > wrote:
>When I bounce to disk in PT 003 should I use 16 bit resolution or 24?
>I mean when I bounce a track that I want to burn on a CD to listen to in a
>good home stereo system.

Wait as long as possible before dithering down to 16 bits.

>The reason I ask is that there seem to be some burning software don't like
>the 24 bit and will only burn 16 so I'm wandering if there are CD players
>out there that won't play it either.

All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things. If it's not 16 bit
two or four channel, it's not a red book CD and no CD player will ever play
it.

But that doesn't have anything to do with Pro Tools. Wait as long as
possible before converting to 16 bits and avoid doing any processing in
the 16 bit world.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Mike Rivers]

On Dec 4, 10:29 am, "Jay" > wrote:
> When I bounce to disk in PT 003 should I use 16 bit resolution or 24?
> I mean when I bounce a track that I want to burn on a CD to listen to in a
> good home stereo system.

To simplify things for your own listening at home, use 16-bit. If
you're going to send your project off for mastering or pressing, then
use 24-bit and let the conversion to 16-bit after the next people in
line work their magic.

[Mark]

>
> All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things. If it's not 16 bit
> two or four channel, it's not a red book CD and no CD player will ever play
> it.
>
>

There is a red book standard for 4 chs?

Are there any 4 channel players (or better yet, recorders) out there?

Mark

[Arny Krueger]

"Mark" > wrote in message


>> All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things.
>> If it's not 16 bit two or four channel, it's not a red
>> book CD and no CD player will ever play it.

> There is a red book standard for 4 chs?

No, just 2 channels, 44 KHz sampling, 16 bits.

> Are there any 4 channel players?

Please see DVD-V and DVD-A standards for multichannel (>2 channels) players

> (or better yet, recorders) out there?

Since you can record DVD-As on a standard PC DVD burner...

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Jay" > wrote in message ...
> When I bounce to disk in PT 003 should I use 16 bit resolution or 24?
> I mean when I bounce a track that I want to burn on a CD to listen to in a
> good home stereo system.

Bounce at 24.... pick up a copy of Toast Titanium, drag and drop to burn.
Toast will downsample and dither for making test CDs.


> The reason I ask is that there seem to be some burning software don't like
> the 24 bit and will only burn 16 so I'm wandering if there are CD players
> out there that won't play it either.

None.



DM

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
Mark > wrote:
>
>> All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things. If it's not 16 bit
>> two or four channel, it's not a red book CD and no CD player will ever play
>> it.
>
>There is a red book standard for 4 chs?

There is! It's really cool!

>Are there any 4 channel players (or better yet, recorders) out there?

No, there never were.
--scott

What would have been REALLY a good idea was a mono CD, with twice the
running time and differetn interleeave. But when the CD came out, I don't
think anybody had any idea how big a business reissuing older recordings was
going to turn out to be. 20/20 hindsight, of course.
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
Arny Krueger > wrote:
>"Mark" > wrote in message

>
>>> All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things.
>>> If it's not 16 bit two or four channel, it's not a red
>>> book CD and no CD player will ever play it.
>
>> There is a red book standard for 4 chs?
>
>No, just 2 channels, 44 KHz sampling, 16 bits.

Nope. Get the Red Book out. There is a whole section on 4-channel
discs. As far as I know, nobody ever implemented it, but it's in the
standard.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Allen Corneau]

On 12/4/07 12:55 PM, in article , "Scott
Dorsey" > wrote:


>> No, just 2 channels, 44 KHz sampling, 16 bits.
>
> Nope. Get the Red Book out. There is a whole section on 4-channel
> discs. As far as I know, nobody ever implemented it, but it's in the
> standard.
> --scott


What if someone came up with a 4-channel CD version of the DTRS bit-splitter
decoder?!?

Imagine it... 24/44.1 or 16/88.2 audio CD's!


Allen
--
Allen Corneau
Mastering Engineer
Essential Sound Mastering
www.esmastering.com

[Arny Krueger]

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message

> In article >,
> Arny Krueger > wrote:
>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>> All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things.
>>>> If it's not 16 bit two or four channel, it's not a red
>>>> book CD and no CD player will ever play it.
>>
>>> There is a red book standard for 4 chs?
>>
>> No, just 2 channels, 44 KHz sampling, 16 bits.

> Nope. Get the Red Book out. There is a whole section on
> 4-channel discs.

Interesting, but of very limited real-world relevance.

> As far as I know, nobody ever
> implemented it, but it's in the standard.

And the name of a commercially made and sold player for that standard is????

;-)

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

Mark wrote:

>> All CD players are like that. CDs are 16-bit things. If it's not
>> 16 bit two or four channel, it's not a red book CD and no CD player
>> will ever play it.

> There is a red book standard for 4 chs?

Yes. The format is capable of discrete 4 channel quadrophony.

> Are there any 4 channel players (or better yet, recorders) out there?

I doubt that a quadrophonic cd-player was ever actually built.

> Mark


Kind regards

Peter Larsen