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m.j.s.
December 1st 07, 05:08 AM
How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to another?

Or is that considered "cheating"?

Neil Rutman
December 1st 07, 07:52 AM
It's a great tool for sure but not appropriate for every style of music IMO.
I have a few of them and they all sound a bit different in good ways.

Neil R

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Neil

"Stig" > wrote in message
...
> Been there...
> Done that...
> It aint cheating, you are just looking for your sound..c
>
>
> "m.j.s." > wrote in message
> reenews.net...
>> How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
>> their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to
>> another?
>>
>> Or is that considered "cheating"?
>>
>
>

Scott Dorsey
December 1st 07, 01:42 PM
m.j.s. > wrote:
>How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
>their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to another?

It sounds like ****, but a remarkable number of people are doing it
these days.

>Or is that considered "cheating"?

Multiband compression is a powerful tool that can make tonal changes in
a recording. Using it arbitrarily is like taking medications at random
because you know they cure some disease or another.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Federico
December 1st 07, 02:23 PM
Would you say that EQ is cheating?
What about compression?
Or Auto-Tune?
Or Reverb, delay or modulations?
Even AD/DA....

That only depends on how much purist you are...

I know people that would say that recording is cheating..
F.

Richard Smol
December 4th 07, 08:39 AM
On Dec 1, 6:08 am, "m.j.s." > wrote:
> How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
> their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to another?
>
> Or is that considered "cheating"?

Of course not. If you like it, just do it.

RS

RD Jones
December 4th 07, 07:01 PM
On Dec 1, 9:23 am, "Federico" > wrote:

> Would you say that EQ is cheating?
> What about compression?
> Or Auto-Tune?
> Or Reverb, delay or modulations?
> Even AD/DA....

Auto-Tune is certainly a cheat.

The multiband in question is a form of equalizing, not really
cheating.

Fake reverb or slap echo can be considered a cheat if it's done to
simulate
the real thing.

AD/DA is not a cheat since digital cannot 'hear' analog any more than
the ears
cannot hear the electrical signal without a speaker.

> That only depends on how much purist you are...
>
> I know people that would say that recording is cheating..

That's a very old argument, are you in the union ?

rd

wavefieldhelmut
December 4th 07, 08:28 PM
On 1 Dez., 06:08, "m.j.s." > wrote:
> How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
> their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to another?
>
> Or is that considered "cheating"?

...I. I am working by a radio station. The Mutiband compressor ensures
good reachable distance.

It makes ab boring sound!

Regards Helmut
www.syntheticwave.de

Federico
December 4th 07, 11:13 PM
>> I know people that would say that recording is cheating..
>
> That's a very old argument, are you in the union ?
>

Not at all... I have lot of fun using and abusing plugins that manipulate
sounds...
F.

Fletch
December 4th 07, 11:43 PM
On Dec 1, 5:42 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> m.j.s. > wrote:
> >How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
> >their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to another?
>
> It sounds like ****, but a remarkable number of people are doing it
> these days.
>
> >Or is that considered "cheating"?
>
> Multiband compression is a powerful tool that can make tonal changes in
> a recording. Using it arbitrarily is like taking medications at random
> because you know they cure some disease or another.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


I agree Judicious use of any tool, and in the appropriate
circumstances, will always outweigh the use of a tool simply because
it is there to be used.

I remember the whole Aural Exciter thing when that first came out,
everyone was using it. The Eagles broadcast on their Long Run album
that they did NOT use an aural exciter on any tracks for the whole
album.

--Fletch

MajorUrsa
December 5th 07, 01:44 AM
m.j.s. wrote:
> How many people here apply a multiband compressor on the main output of
> their songs to ensure a roughly similar sound from one project to another?
>
> Or is that considered "cheating"?

Why not go all the way and use Voxengo Soniformer
http://www.voxengo.com/product/soniformer/
It is 32 bands with drawable settings-curves. Sounds good too, judging
from his other tools too, that guy really knows what he's doing.

Ursa..