playing DVD audio without video

[Jerome]

A non-audiophile friend has wondered why music DVDs (of concerts) can't be
played without turning on his TV to navigate the DVD menu. A few of the
concert disks he has include a CD of the same audio as the DVD, and this
seems to be a waste. And, I can't answer that so I thought I'd ask here.

Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the DVD
format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:47:16 GMT, Jerome > wrote:

>Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the DVD
>format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?

What the format/standard did not anticipate (or acknowledge) is the
use of DVDs as an audio medium without a video monitor. I bought a
5" LCD monitor for use with DVD-A and other menu needs.

Kal

[DaveW[_4_]]

"DVD-Audio" disks CAN be played with audio only on. Standard DVD disks,
such as movie disks, have the video and audio mixed in the signal stream and
so must both be decoded to get the audio.

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--DaveW
"Jerome" > wrote in message
news:EAp2j.47270$fD.18852@pd7urf3no...
>
> A non-audiophile friend has wondered why music DVDs (of concerts) can't be
> played without turning on his TV to navigate the DVD menu. A few of the
> concert disks he has include a CD of the same audio as the DVD, and this
> seems to be a waste. And, I can't answer that so I thought I'd ask here.
>
> Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the DVD
> format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?
>

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:32:51 -0800, "DaveW" >
wrote:

>"DVD-Audio" disks CAN be played with audio only on. Standard DVD disks,
>such as movie disks, have the video and audio mixed in the signal stream and
>so must both be decoded to get the audio.

Sure. Both types CAN be played without viewing the video but the
issue is navigation without a video display.

Kal

[AZ Nomad]

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:32:51 -0800, DaveW > wrote:


>"DVD-Audio" disks CAN be played with audio only on. Standard DVD disks,
>such as movie disks, have the video and audio mixed in the signal stream and
>so must both be decoded to get the audio.

On most dvds, you can start it just by hitting 'play'. Some movies have
obnoxious advertisements before the main feature, but very few concerts do.

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:38:57 GMT, AZ Nomad
> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:32:51 -0800, DaveW > wrote:
>
>
>>"DVD-Audio" disks CAN be played with audio only on. Standard DVD disks,
>>such as movie disks, have the video and audio mixed in the signal stream and
>>so must both be decoded to get the audio.
>
>On most dvds, you can start it just by hitting 'play'. Some movies have
>obnoxious advertisements before the main feature, but very few concerts do.

Right. Same for DVD-A except that one often needs to select the audio
format and, perhaps, one or another track. Difficult without a
display.

Kal

[Eeyore]

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:47:16 GMT, Jerome > wrote:
>
> >Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the DVD
> >format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?
>
> What the format/standard did not anticipate (or acknowledge) is the
> use of DVDs as an audio medium without a video monitor.

Blame the marketing morons for that.

I dare say they got paid handsomely too. Society today tends to reward idiots
far better than geniuses. Maybe it was always that way ?

Graham

[Matt Ion]

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Kalman Rubinson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:47:16 GMT, Jerome > wrote:
>>
>>> Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the DVD
>>> format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?
>> What the format/standard did not anticipate (or acknowledge) is the
>> use of DVDs as an audio medium without a video monitor.
>
> Blame the marketing morons for that.
>
> I dare say they got paid handsomely too. Society today tends to reward idiots
> far better than geniuses. Maybe it was always that way ?

Make something idiot-proof, and the universe will always come up with a
better idiot.

Or to coin some related phrases:

"The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to
contemplate the extent of human stupidity." -- Voltaire

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

"The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity."
-- Harlan Ellison

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a
longer shelf life." -- Frank Zappa

"There are more fools in the world than there are people." -- Heinrich Heine

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." -- Robert Heinlein

[Matt Ion]

Goldsmiths wrote:
> "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> news:nmo4j.83577$cD.49275@pd7urf2no...
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>> Kalman Rubinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:47:16 GMT, Jerome > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the
>>>>> DVD
>>>>> format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?
>>>> What the format/standard did not anticipate (or acknowledge) is the
>>>> use of DVDs as an audio medium without a video monitor.
>>> Blame the marketing morons for that.
>>>
>>> I dare say they got paid handsomely too. Society today tends to reward
>>> idiots
>>> far better than geniuses. Maybe it was always that way ?
>> Make something idiot-proof, and the universe will always come up with a
>> better idiot.
>>
>> Or to coin some related phrases:
>>
>> "The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to
>> contemplate the extent of human stupidity." -- Voltaire
>>
>> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
>> not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> "The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and
>> stupidity." -- Harlan Ellison
>>
>> "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a
>> longer shelf life." -- Frank Zappa
>>
>> "There are more fools in the world than there are people." -- Heinrich
>> Heine
>>
>> "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." -- Robert Heinlein
>>
>
> "Consider how stupid the average person is, then consider that half the
> people on the planet are even stupider." -- Me

I'll add that one to the list :)

[xxxxxx]

have you tried stripping the audio out of the DVD
and making a CD of it?
there are several programs to do this
both video programs and other.
i use dvd audio extractor
I also have dvd audio ripper which seems to crash a lot

you can also do this with DVD decrypter using stream output
and virtualdubmon




"Jerome" > wrote in message
news:EAp2j.47270$fD.18852@pd7urf3no...
>
> A non-audiophile friend has wondered why music DVDs (of concerts) can't be
> played without turning on his TV to navigate the DVD menu. A few of the
> concert disks he has include a CD of the same audio as the DVD, and this
> seems to be a waste. And, I can't answer that so I thought I'd ask here.
>
> Why can't the audio portion of a DVD be played like a CD can? Did the DVD
> format/standard not anticipate the use of DVDs as an audio medium?
>