close miking

fast question: in close miking a classical guitars (noise block) , it's it
better to use small diaphragm or large diaphragm or is it either I dammed?
I have 2 cad 100's and AT4040 and Sony Stereo Mic. but I don't have small
diaphragm ( none to borrow)

thinking of a pair of CM 700's

Thank you
Ed

>From: "Edward Bridge"
>Date: 9/22/04 10:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: .net>
>
> fast question: in close miking a classical guitars (noise block) , it's it
>better to use small diaphragm or large diaphragm or is it either I dammed?
>I have 2 cad 100's and AT4040 and Sony Stereo Mic. but I don't have small
>diaphragm ( none to borrow)
>
>thinking of a pair of CM 700's

Use your ears wich one sound best.

>From: "Edward Bridge"
>Date: 9/22/04 10:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: .net>
>
> fast question: in close miking a classical guitars (noise block) , it's it
>better to use small diaphragm or large diaphragm or is it either I dammed?
>I have 2 cad 100's and AT4040 and Sony Stereo Mic. but I don't have small
>diaphragm ( none to borrow)
>
>thinking of a pair of CM 700's

Use your ears wich one sound best.

if you want accuracy, go with SD. if you want a more colored sound,
use LD. the crowns are quite bright, and give an unwanted "plinky"
sound to classical guitar - look for something with a flat response
curve, like akg c480s, schoeps cmc641s, dpa 4011s. cheaper, and not
quite as flat, are the gefell m300s. if you use brighter mics, use
them off-axis.

if you want accuracy, go with SD. if you want a more colored sound,
use LD. the crowns are quite bright, and give an unwanted "plinky"
sound to classical guitar - look for something with a flat response
curve, like akg c480s, schoeps cmc641s, dpa 4011s. cheaper, and not
quite as flat, are the gefell m300s. if you use brighter mics, use
them off-axis.

In article .net> writes:

> in close miking a classical guitars (noise block) , it's it
> better to use small diaphragm or large diaphragm or is it either I dammed?
> I have 2 cad 100's and AT4040 and Sony Stereo Mic. but I don't have small
> diaphragm ( none to borrow)

My first choice would be one of each. I often start with a small
diaphragm mic (usually KM84) near where the neck meets the body and a
large diaphragm mic (usually U87) in the area of the bridge, usually a
little lower (off center, toward toward the floor) but looking
slightly toward the sound hole rather than perpendicualr to the top.

But if you don't have a small diaphragm mic, you can't do that. Just
experiement with what you have. You might want to try the 4040 near
the neck joint and use the Sony for a little crispness. No formulas,
just reasonable places to start your experiments.

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In article .net> writes:

> in close miking a classical guitars (noise block) , it's it
> better to use small diaphragm or large diaphragm or is it either I dammed?
> I have 2 cad 100's and AT4040 and Sony Stereo Mic. but I don't have small
> diaphragm ( none to borrow)

My first choice would be one of each. I often start with a small
diaphragm mic (usually KM84) near where the neck meets the body and a
large diaphragm mic (usually U87) in the area of the bridge, usually a
little lower (off center, toward toward the floor) but looking
slightly toward the sound hole rather than perpendicualr to the top.

But if you don't have a small diaphragm mic, you can't do that. Just
experiement with what you have. You might want to try the 4040 near
the neck joint and use the Sony for a little crispness. No formulas,
just reasonable places to start your experiments.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"jnorman" > wrote in message
om...
> if you want accuracy, go with SD. if you want a more colored sound,
> use LD. --

accuracy, would be more guitar and less room if I had the mic place right ?
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com

"jnorman" > wrote in message
om...
> if you want accuracy, go with SD. if you want a more colored sound,
> use LD. --

accuracy, would be more guitar and less room if I had the mic place right ?
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com

"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
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>
> But if you don't have a small diaphragm mic, you can't do that. Just
> experiement with what you have. You might want to try the 4040 near
> the neck joint and use the Sony for a little crispness. No formulas,
> just reasonable places to start your experiments.



Holy batmites, that's what I did which is what got me thinking .um maybe
two nice SD mic's instead of the Sony Stereo (Electret ECM999 PR) I have
..

I know it's best to record in a great room but that's not happening right in
my life so I need to be able to enjoy life in a small room . . I hate when I
do something I like and in the background I machine noise. ( no PC )
--
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com