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Moon landing hoax and 9/11 explanation


9-11

1. WTC building 7: After Popular Mechanics says that somehow air jet
fuel, which can't reach the melting point of steel, was responsible
for the pools of molten steel found... how do they explain the molten
steel found in the third building WTC 7? This building was never hit
by an aircraft and suffered a small hit from debris. How do they
explain the molten steel in this building? Molten steel can't be
created by the temperatures of air craft fuel.

2. Designers of the WTC said the buildings could withstand multiple
hits from aircraft.

3. Why the cover up of any sort of scientific investigation? If
there is nothing to hide why cover up the evidence?

4. Explosions reported by eye witnesses are consistent with
controlled demolitions.

5. Why did the buildings fall in free fall rather than topple over?
In order to do so, you have to get under the building and cut its
supports from underneath. The planes hit the tops of the buildings.

6. These are the first three steel frame buildings to ever collapse
from fire, all on
the same day, in symmetrical "freefall" fashion (as in professional
demolitions).
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_...ther_fires.htm


7. The owner of the buildings getting them insured and getting more
than he insured them for. This after the buildings had been
condemned. It seems like Silverstein wanted them destroyed so he
wouldn’t have to spend the money renovating them and the government
was all too happy to assist him and cover up the actual cause of the
collapse as an excuse to claim a war on terrorism, erode our rights,
and a pretext to control huge resources of oil in Iraq. Our
government is nothing more than a mafia, with the Godfather(s) being
the elite. These elite are the international banking cartels.

8. Try Zeitgeist for starters and much more info.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/





-----------------------

Moon Landing

0. Ooops.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...&hl=en&emb= 0


1. Astronauts didn't seem proud on return. If they had actually gone
you would think they would be enthusiastic upon returning but it was
the opposite, they seemed ashamed of what they'd done.

2. Technology was at the point where we could just go into orbit
around the Earth with a manned vessel. Yet somehow, we took a giant
leap and landed a manned vessel on the moon. Then we also took off
from the moon with ease and returned safely, passing through the Van
Allen Radiation Belt a second time unscathed?

3. The Van Allen Radiation Belt around earth contains deadly
radiation that would kill any astronauts in a vessel attempting to go
through it on the way to the moon. We didn't have the technology nor
do we have it now to safely pass through it with a manned vessel.

"It is the belief of John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA,
that in order to be protected from the radiation, shielding at least 2
metres thick would be required. Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers
which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moon surfaces were
according to NASA "about the thickness of heavy duty aluminium foil.""

http://durham21.co.uk/archive.asp?ID=102

This is a NASA physicist telling you this. Do you see the irony in
that?

Besides, if they did make it past the belts, there is even more deadly
radiation caused by the sun's flares on their way to the moon. Yet
the astronauts suffered no ill effects from all this radiation in a
vessel that had shielding compared to heavy duty tin foil, and space
suits that provided little to no protection.

Not to mention that in the sunny areas where the astronauts are show
to be frolicking about happily the temperature would have been 250 F
above 0. How many of you would last more than a minute in such
extremes and at the same time run around without a care. During the
night, the temperature would fall 250 F below 0. That space suit is
supposed to protect you from all these hazards? Right...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...&hl=en &emb=0



4. Camera trickery prior to alleged moon landing. Why fake halfway
to the moon when they can go all the way to the moon?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#


5. No stars in the photos. Yeah I know about the camera exposure
explanation; this is one of the only explanations debunkers give that
has any substance. Even letting that slip, you're telling me you go
all the way to the moon and take thousands of photos but not one of
them has stars in them, not even partial exposure, not even a trace?
Keep in mind there is no atmosphere to obscure the stars and the stars
would be much more visible and brighter; like the view from a desert
but even more intense and pure, not dim and easy to obscure as
debunkers would have you believe. The view of the stars from the moon
without an atmosphere to obscure the light would be incredible. Yet,
these guys don't even take one photo of the stars? They don't even
mention the stars. Are you kidding me? That would be one of the
first things you would notice. They don't mention them so that they
don't bring them to your attention.


6. Dark Side of the Moon Stanley Kubrick directed the holly wood moon
landing hoax.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#

7. Moon rocks. You can find such rocks on Earth in places like
Antarctica. They are just asteroids or lunites that have dropped to
Earth and have stayed in good condition because of the ideal stasis
conditions that exist in the Antarctic.

8. The Russians who were ahead of the USA in space exploration and
technology could bring back about 10 ounces of moon rock at most with
unmanned vessels, yet the USA managed to bring back hundreds of pounds
of moon rocks in manned vessels. How did this giant leap in
technology happen over night?

9. Director of NASA takes a trip to Antarctica prior to alleged Moon
landings; most likely to collect so called "moon rocks". These are
just asteroids; Antarctica because of the ideal conditions to find
untainted rocks that easier to spot against the white background.

10. Photos showing shadows cast in more than one direction,
consistent with multiple spotlights rather than one sun.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0

11. Rocks with markings like on a movie set.

12. Flag waving. The way the flag waves in particular should be
noted. A flag doesn't wave in this way when manhandled. Only wind
moves a flag in such a way.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0

13. If you look at the moon rovers and the dirt they fling into the
air, they are consistent with Earth gravity and not Moon gravity. The
dirt flies up and falls down in an arc consistent with earth gravity.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0

14. When you double the speed of the footage, the astronauts appear
to be running and skipping in earth gravity.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0


15. Astronaut descending into the shadow of the space vessel yet his
body is lit up.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0

16. If it was real, there would be no errors or anything dubious to
point out in the first place. You can't argue with Truth.

17. Backlit objects being clearly visible from the front. This
indicates spotlights as used on movie sets.

18. Area 51, where the moon movie was made has an area covered with
craters ideal for a fake moon landing.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0

19. No blast crater where the module landed. The module is perfectly
clean as well where there should have been dust settling on the craft
from landing.

20. The module crashed in tests on Earth and was very unstable and
hard to control. Armstrong had to eject to save his life. Yet, it
landed flawlessly on the Moon six times, leaving no blast crater each
time.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ke&hl=en&emb=0

21. The Russians were sent grain as payment to keep them from
exposing the hoax.

22. Ooops! lol

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...&hl=en&emb= 0

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On Sep 27, 5:38*pm, wrote:
Moon landing hoax and 9/11 explanation

9-11

1. *WTC building 7: After Popular Mechanics says that somehow air jet
fuel, which can't reach the melting point of steel, was responsible
for the pools of molten steel found... how do they explain the molten
steel found in the third building WTC 7? This building was never hit
by an aircraft and suffered a small hit from debris. How do they
explain the molten steel in this building? *Molten steel can't be
created by the temperatures of air craft fuel.

2. *Designers of the WTC said the buildings could withstand multiple
hits from aircraft.

3. *Why the cover up of any sort of scientific investigation? *If
there is nothing to hide why cover up the evidence?

4. *Explosions reported by eye witnesses are consistent with
controlled demolitions.

5. *Why did the buildings fall in free fall rather than topple over?
In order to do so, you have to get under the building and cut its
supports from underneath. *The planes hit the tops of the buildings.

6. *These are the first three steel frame buildings to ever collapse
from fire, all on
the same day, in symmetrical "freefall" fashion (as in professional
demolitions).http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_...ther_fires.htm

7. *The owner of the buildings getting them insured and getting more
than he insured them for. *This after the buildings had been
condemned. *It seems like Silverstein wanted them destroyed so he
wouldn’t have to spend the money renovating them and the government
was all too happy to assist him and cover up the actual cause of the
collapse as an excuse to claim a war on terrorism, erode our rights,
and a pretext to control huge resources of oil in Iraq. *Our
government is nothing more than a mafia, with the Godfather(s) being
the elite. *These elite are the international banking cartels.

8. *Try Zeitgeist for starters and much more info.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

-----------------------

Moon Landing

0. *Ooops.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20....

1. *Astronauts didn't seem proud on return. *If they had actually gone
you would think they would be enthusiastic upon returning but it was
the opposite, they seemed ashamed of what they'd done.

2. Technology was at the point where we could just go into orbit
around the Earth with a manned vessel. *Yet somehow, we took a giant
leap and landed a manned vessel on the moon. *Then we also took off
from the moon with ease and returned safely, passing through the Van
Allen Radiation Belt a second time unscathed?

3. *The Van Allen Radiation Belt around earth contains deadly
radiation that would kill any astronauts in a vessel attempting to go
through it on the way to the moon. *We didn't have the technology nor
do we have it now to safely pass through it with a manned vessel.

"It is the belief of John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA,
that in order to be protected from the radiation, shielding at least 2
metres thick would be required. *Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers
which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moon surfaces were
according to NASA "about the thickness of heavy duty aluminium foil.""

http://durham21.co.uk/archive.asp?ID=102

This is a NASA physicist telling you this. *Do you see the irony in
that?

Besides, if they did make it past the belts, there is even more deadly
radiation caused by the sun's flares on their way to the moon. *Yet
the astronauts suffered no ill effects from all this radiation in a
vessel that had shielding compared to heavy duty tin foil, and space
suits that provided little to no protection.

Not to mention that in the sunny areas where the astronauts are show
to be frolicking about happily the temperature would have been 250 F
above 0. *How many of you would last more than a minute in such
extremes and at the same time run around without a care. *During the
night, the temperature would fall 250 F below 0. *That space suit is
supposed to protect you from all these hazards? *Right...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20....

4. *Camera trickery prior to alleged moon landing. * Why fake halfway
to the moon when they can go all the way to the moon?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ings%20faked&u....

5. *No stars in the photos. *Yeah I know about the camera exposure
explanation; this is one of the only explanations debunkers give that
has any substance. *Even letting that slip, you're telling me you go
all the way to the moon and take thousands of photos but not one of
them has stars in them, not even partial exposure, not even a trace?
Keep in mind there is no atmosphere to obscure the stars and the stars
would be much more visible and brighter; like the view from a desert
but even more intense and pure, not dim and easy to obscure as
debunkers would have you believe. *The view of the stars from the moon
without an atmosphere to obscure the light would be incredible. *Yet,
these guys don't even take one photo of the stars? *They don't even
mention the stars. *Are you kidding me? *That would be one of the
first things you would notice. *They don't mention them so that they
don't bring them to your attention.

6. Dark Side of the Moon *Stanley Kubrick directed the holly wood moon
landing hoax.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...%20of%20the%20...

7. Moon rocks. *You can find such rocks on Earth in places like
Antarctica. *They are just asteroids or lunites that have dropped to
Earth and have stayed in good condition because of the ideal stasis
conditions that exist in the Antarctic.

8. *The Russians who were ahead of the USA in space exploration and
technology could bring back about 10 ounces of moon rock at most with
unmanned vessels, yet the USA managed to bring back hundreds of pounds
of moon rocks in manned vessels. *How did this giant leap in
technology happen over night?

9. *Director of NASA takes a trip to Antarctica prior to alleged Moon
landings; most likely to collect so called "moon rocks". *These are
just asteroids; Antarctica because of the ideal conditions to find
untainted rocks that easier to spot against the white background.

10. *Photos showing shadows cast in more than one direction,
consistent with multiple spotlights rather than one sun.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...

11. *Rocks with markings like on a movie set.

12. *Flag waving. *The way the flag waves in particular should be
noted. *A flag doesn't wave in this way when manhandled. *Only wind
moves a flag in such a way.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20....

13. *If you look at the moon rovers and the dirt they fling into the
air, they are consistent with Earth gravity and not Moon gravity. *The
dirt flies up and falls down in an arc consistent with earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...

14. *When you double the speed of the footage, the astronauts appear
to be running and skipping in earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...

15. *Astronaut descending into the shadow of the space vessel yet his
body is lit up.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...

16. *If it was real, there would be no errors or anything dubious to
point out in the first place. *You can't argue with Truth.

17. Backlit objects being clearly visible from the front. *This
indicates spotlights as used on movie sets.

18. *Area 51, where the moon movie was made has an area covered with
craters ideal for a fake moon landing.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...

19. No blast crater where the module landed. *The module is perfectly
clean as well where there should have been dust settling on the craft
from landing.

20. *The module crashed in tests on Earth and was very unstable and
hard to control. *Armstrong had to eject to save his life. *Yet, it
landed flawlessly on the Moon six times, leaving no blast crater each
time.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...

21. *The Russians were sent grain as payment to keep them from
exposing the hoax.

22. Ooops! lol

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20....


This should be the correct video for 0 and 22:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ng&vt=lf&hl=en
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On Sep 27, 5:45*pm, wrote:
On Sep 27, 5:38*pm, wrote:



Moon landing hoax and 9/11 explanation


9-11


1. *WTC building 7: After Popular Mechanics says that somehow air jet
fuel, which can't reach the melting point of steel, was responsible
for the pools of molten steel found... how do they explain the molten
steel found in the third building WTC 7? This building was never hit
by an aircraft and suffered a small hit from debris. How do they
explain the molten steel in this building? *Molten steel can't be
created by the temperatures of air craft fuel.


2. *Designers of the WTC said the buildings could withstand multiple
hits from aircraft.


3. *Why the cover up of any sort of scientific investigation? *If
there is nothing to hide why cover up the evidence?


4. *Explosions reported by eye witnesses are consistent with
controlled demolitions.


5. *Why did the buildings fall in free fall rather than topple over?
In order to do so, you have to get under the building and cut its
supports from underneath. *The planes hit the tops of the buildings.


6. *These are the first three steel frame buildings to ever collapse
from fire, all on
the same day, in symmetrical "freefall" fashion (as in professional
demolitions).http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_...ther_fires.htm


7. *The owner of the buildings getting them insured and getting more
than he insured them for. *This after the buildings had been
condemned. *It seems like Silverstein wanted them destroyed so he
wouldn’t have to spend the money renovating them and the government
was all too happy to assist him and cover up the actual cause of the
collapse as an excuse to claim a war on terrorism, erode our rights,
and a pretext to control huge resources of oil in Iraq. *Our
government is nothing more than a mafia, with the Godfather(s) being
the elite. *These elite are the international banking cartels.


8. *Try Zeitgeist for starters and much more info.


http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


-----------------------


Moon Landing


0. *Ooops.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


1. *Astronauts didn't seem proud on return. *If they had actually gone
you would think they would be enthusiastic upon returning but it was
the opposite, they seemed ashamed of what they'd done.


2. Technology was at the point where we could just go into orbit
around the Earth with a manned vessel. *Yet somehow, we took a giant
leap and landed a manned vessel on the moon. *Then we also took off
from the moon with ease and returned safely, passing through the Van
Allen Radiation Belt a second time unscathed?


3. *The Van Allen Radiation Belt around earth contains deadly
radiation that would kill any astronauts in a vessel attempting to go
through it on the way to the moon. *We didn't have the technology nor
do we have it now to safely pass through it with a manned vessel.


"It is the belief of John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA,
that in order to be protected from the radiation, shielding at least 2
metres thick would be required. *Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers
which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moon surfaces were
according to NASA "about the thickness of heavy duty aluminium foil.""


http://durham21.co.uk/archive.asp?ID=102


This is a NASA physicist telling you this. *Do you see the irony in
that?


Besides, if they did make it past the belts, there is even more deadly
radiation caused by the sun's flares on their way to the moon. *Yet
the astronauts suffered no ill effects from all this radiation in a
vessel that had shielding compared to heavy duty tin foil, and space
suits that provided little to no protection.


Not to mention that in the sunny areas where the astronauts are show
to be frolicking about happily the temperature would have been 250 F
above 0. *How many of you would last more than a minute in such
extremes and at the same time run around without a care. *During the
night, the temperature would fall 250 F below 0. *That space suit is
supposed to protect you from all these hazards? *Right...


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


4. *Camera trickery prior to alleged moon landing. * Why fake halfway
to the moon when they can go all the way to the moon?


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ings%20faked&u...


5. *No stars in the photos. *Yeah I know about the camera exposure
explanation; this is one of the only explanations debunkers give that
has any substance. *Even letting that slip, you're telling me you go
all the way to the moon and take thousands of photos but not one of
them has stars in them, not even partial exposure, not even a trace?
Keep in mind there is no atmosphere to obscure the stars and the stars
would be much more visible and brighter; like the view from a desert
but even more intense and pure, not dim and easy to obscure as
debunkers would have you believe. *The view of the stars from the moon
without an atmosphere to obscure the light would be incredible. *Yet,
these guys don't even take one photo of the stars? *They don't even
mention the stars. *Are you kidding me? *That would be one of the
first things you would notice. *They don't mention them so that they
don't bring them to your attention.


6. Dark Side of the Moon *Stanley Kubrick directed the holly wood moon
landing hoax.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...%20of%20the%20...


7. Moon rocks. *You can find such rocks on Earth in places like
Antarctica. *They are just asteroids or lunites that have dropped to
Earth and have stayed in good condition because of the ideal stasis
conditions that exist in the Antarctic.


8. *The Russians who were ahead of the USA in space exploration and
technology could bring back about 10 ounces of moon rock at most with
unmanned vessels, yet the USA managed to bring back hundreds of pounds
of moon rocks in manned vessels. *How did this giant leap in
technology happen over night?


9. *Director of NASA takes a trip to Antarctica prior to alleged Moon
landings; most likely to collect so called "moon rocks". *These are
just asteroids; Antarctica because of the ideal conditions to find
untainted rocks that easier to spot against the white background.


10. *Photos showing shadows cast in more than one direction,
consistent with multiple spotlights rather than one sun.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


11. *Rocks with markings like on a movie set.


12. *Flag waving. *The way the flag waves in particular should be
noted. *A flag doesn't wave in this way when manhandled. *Only wind
moves a flag in such a way.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


13. *If you look at the moon rovers and the dirt they fling into the
air, they are consistent with Earth gravity and not Moon gravity. *The
dirt flies up and falls down in an arc consistent with earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


14. *When you double the speed of the footage, the astronauts appear
to be running and skipping in earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


15. *Astronaut descending into the shadow of the space vessel yet his
body is lit up.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


16. *If it was real, there would be no errors or anything dubious to
point out in the first place. *You can't argue with Truth.


17. Backlit objects being clearly visible from the front. *This
indicates spotlights as used on movie sets.


18. *Area 51, where the moon movie was made has an area covered with
craters ideal for a fake moon landing.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


19. No blast crater where the module landed. *The module is perfectly
clean as well where there should have been dust settling on the craft
from landing.


20. *The module crashed in tests on Earth and was very unstable and
hard to control. *Armstrong had to eject to save his life. *Yet, it
landed flawlessly on the Moon six times, leaving no blast crater each
time.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


21. *The Russians were sent grain as payment to keep them from
exposing the hoax.


22. Ooops! lol


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


This should be the correct video for 0 and 22:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5442&ei=3ajeSO....


Aaron Russo before he died revealed what Rockefeller divulged to him:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07&vt=lf&hl=en
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On Sep 27, 11:24*pm, wrote:
On Sep 27, 5:45*pm, wrote:



On Sep 27, 5:38*pm, wrote:


Moon landing hoax and 9/11 explanation


9-11


1. *WTC building 7: After Popular Mechanics says that somehow air jet
fuel, which can't reach the melting point of steel, was responsible
for the pools of molten steel found... how do they explain the molten
steel found in the third building WTC 7? This building was never hit
by an aircraft and suffered a small hit from debris. How do they
explain the molten steel in this building? *Molten steel can't be
created by the temperatures of air craft fuel.


2. *Designers of the WTC said the buildings could withstand multiple
hits from aircraft.


3. *Why the cover up of any sort of scientific investigation? *If
there is nothing to hide why cover up the evidence?


4. *Explosions reported by eye witnesses are consistent with
controlled demolitions.


5. *Why did the buildings fall in free fall rather than topple over?
In order to do so, you have to get under the building and cut its
supports from underneath. *The planes hit the tops of the buildings..


6. *These are the first three steel frame buildings to ever collapse
from fire, all on
the same day, in symmetrical "freefall" fashion (as in professional
demolitions).http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_...ther_fires.htm


7. *The owner of the buildings getting them insured and getting more
than he insured them for. *This after the buildings had been
condemned. *It seems like Silverstein wanted them destroyed so he
wouldn’t have to spend the money renovating them and the government
was all too happy to assist him and cover up the actual cause of the
collapse as an excuse to claim a war on terrorism, erode our rights,
and a pretext to control huge resources of oil in Iraq. *Our
government is nothing more than a mafia, with the Godfather(s) being
the elite. *These elite are the international banking cartels.


8. *Try Zeitgeist for starters and much more info.


http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


-----------------------


Moon Landing


0. *Ooops.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


1. *Astronauts didn't seem proud on return. *If they had actually gone
you would think they would be enthusiastic upon returning but it was
the opposite, they seemed ashamed of what they'd done.


2. Technology was at the point where we could just go into orbit
around the Earth with a manned vessel. *Yet somehow, we took a giant
leap and landed a manned vessel on the moon. *Then we also took off
from the moon with ease and returned safely, passing through the Van
Allen Radiation Belt a second time unscathed?


3. *The Van Allen Radiation Belt around earth contains deadly
radiation that would kill any astronauts in a vessel attempting to go
through it on the way to the moon. *We didn't have the technology nor
do we have it now to safely pass through it with a manned vessel.


"It is the belief of John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA,
that in order to be protected from the radiation, shielding at least 2
metres thick would be required. *Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers
which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moon surfaces were
according to NASA "about the thickness of heavy duty aluminium foil.""


http://durham21.co.uk/archive.asp?ID=102


This is a NASA physicist telling you this. *Do you see the irony in
that?


Besides, if they did make it past the belts, there is even more deadly
radiation caused by the sun's flares on their way to the moon. *Yet
the astronauts suffered no ill effects from all this radiation in a
vessel that had shielding compared to heavy duty tin foil, and space
suits that provided little to no protection.


Not to mention that in the sunny areas where the astronauts are show
to be frolicking about happily the temperature would have been 250 F
above 0. *How many of you would last more than a minute in such
extremes and at the same time run around without a care. *During the
night, the temperature would fall 250 F below 0. *That space suit is
supposed to protect you from all these hazards? *Right...


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


4. *Camera trickery prior to alleged moon landing. * Why fake halfway
to the moon when they can go all the way to the moon?


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ings%20faked&u...


5. *No stars in the photos. *Yeah I know about the camera exposure
explanation; this is one of the only explanations debunkers give that
has any substance. *Even letting that slip, you're telling me you go
all the way to the moon and take thousands of photos but not one of
them has stars in them, not even partial exposure, not even a trace?
Keep in mind there is no atmosphere to obscure the stars and the stars
would be much more visible and brighter; like the view from a desert
but even more intense and pure, not dim and easy to obscure as
debunkers would have you believe. *The view of the stars from the moon
without an atmosphere to obscure the light would be incredible. *Yet,
these guys don't even take one photo of the stars? *They don't even
mention the stars. *Are you kidding me? *That would be one of the
first things you would notice. *They don't mention them so that they
don't bring them to your attention.


6. Dark Side of the Moon *Stanley Kubrick directed the holly wood moon
landing hoax.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...%20of%20the%20...


7. Moon rocks. *You can find such rocks on Earth in places like
Antarctica. *They are just asteroids or lunites that have dropped to
Earth and have stayed in good condition because of the ideal stasis
conditions that exist in the Antarctic.


8. *The Russians who were ahead of the USA in space exploration and
technology could bring back about 10 ounces of moon rock at most with
unmanned vessels, yet the USA managed to bring back hundreds of pounds
of moon rocks in manned vessels. *How did this giant leap in
technology happen over night?


9. *Director of NASA takes a trip to Antarctica prior to alleged Moon
landings; most likely to collect so called "moon rocks". *These are
just asteroids; Antarctica because of the ideal conditions to find
untainted rocks that easier to spot against the white background.


10. *Photos showing shadows cast in more than one direction,
consistent with multiple spotlights rather than one sun.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


11. *Rocks with markings like on a movie set.


12. *Flag waving. *The way the flag waves in particular should be
noted. *A flag doesn't wave in this way when manhandled. *Only wind
moves a flag in such a way.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


13. *If you look at the moon rovers and the dirt they fling into the
air, they are consistent with Earth gravity and not Moon gravity. *The
dirt flies up and falls down in an arc consistent with earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20....


14. *When you double the speed of the footage, the astronauts appear
to be running and skipping in earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


15. *Astronaut descending into the shadow of the space vessel yet his
body is lit up.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


16. *If it was real, there would be no errors or anything dubious to
point out in the first place. *You can't argue with Truth.


17. Backlit objects being clearly visible from the front. *This
indicates spotlights as used on movie sets.


18. *Area 51, where the moon movie was made has an area covered with
craters ideal for a fake moon landing.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


19. No blast crater where the module landed. *The module is perfectly
clean as well where there should have been dust settling on the craft
from landing.


20. *The module crashed in tests on Earth and was very unstable and
hard to control. *Armstrong had to eject to save his life. *Yet, it
landed flawlessly on the Moon six times, leaving no blast crater each
time.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


21. *The Russians were sent grain as payment to keep them from
exposing the hoax.


22. Ooops! lol


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


This should be the correct video for 0 and 22:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5442&ei=3ajeSO...


Aaron Russo before he died revealed what Rockefeller divulged to him:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07&vt=lf&hl=en


Full interview with Aaron Russo:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...26590918&hl=en
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On Sep 27, 11:24*pm, wrote:



On Sep 27, 5:45*pm, wrote:


On Sep 27, 5:38*pm, wrote:


Moon landing hoax and 9/11 explanation


9-11


1. *WTC building 7: After Popular Mechanics says that somehow air jet
fuel, which can't reach the melting point of steel, was responsible
for the pools of molten steel found... how do they explain the molten
steel found in the third building WTC 7? This building was never hit
by an aircraft and suffered a small hit from debris. How do they
explain the molten steel in this building? *Molten steel can't be
created by the temperatures of air craft fuel.


2. *Designers of the WTC said the buildings could withstand multiple
hits from aircraft.


3. *Why the cover up of any sort of scientific investigation? *If
there is nothing to hide why cover up the evidence?


4. *Explosions reported by eye witnesses are consistent with
controlled demolitions.


5. *Why did the buildings fall in free fall rather than topple over?
In order to do so, you have to get under the building and cut its
supports from underneath. *The planes hit the tops of the buildings.


6. *These are the first three steel frame buildings to ever collapse
from fire, all on
the same day, in symmetrical "freefall" fashion (as in professional
demolitions).http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_...ther_fires.htm


7. *The owner of the buildings getting them insured and getting more
than he insured them for. *This after the buildings had been
condemned. *It seems like Silverstein wanted them destroyed so he
wouldn’t have to spend the money renovating them and the government
was all too happy to assist him and cover up the actual cause of the
collapse as an excuse to claim a war on terrorism, erode our rights,
and a pretext to control huge resources of oil in Iraq. *Our
government is nothing more than a mafia, with the Godfather(s) being
the elite. *These elite are the international banking cartels.


8. *Try Zeitgeist for starters and much more info.


http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


-----------------------


Moon Landing


0. *Ooops.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


1. *Astronauts didn't seem proud on return. *If they had actually gone
you would think they would be enthusiastic upon returning but it was
the opposite, they seemed ashamed of what they'd done.


2. Technology was at the point where we could just go into orbit
around the Earth with a manned vessel. *Yet somehow, we took a giant
leap and landed a manned vessel on the moon. *Then we also took off
from the moon with ease and returned safely, passing through the Van
Allen Radiation Belt a second time unscathed?


3. *The Van Allen Radiation Belt around earth contains deadly
radiation that would kill any astronauts in a vessel attempting to go
through it on the way to the moon. *We didn't have the technology nor
do we have it now to safely pass through it with a manned vessel.


"It is the belief of John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA,
that in order to be protected from the radiation, shielding at least 2
metres thick would be required. *Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers
which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moon surfaces were
according to NASA "about the thickness of heavy duty aluminium foil..""


http://durham21.co.uk/archive.asp?ID=102


This is a NASA physicist telling you this. *Do you see the irony in
that?


Besides, if they did make it past the belts, there is even more deadly
radiation caused by the sun's flares on their way to the moon. *Yet
the astronauts suffered no ill effects from all this radiation in a
vessel that had shielding compared to heavy duty tin foil, and space
suits that provided little to no protection.


Not to mention that in the sunny areas where the astronauts are show
to be frolicking about happily the temperature would have been 250 F
above 0. *How many of you would last more than a minute in such
extremes and at the same time run around without a care. *During the
night, the temperature would fall 250 F below 0. *That space suit is
supposed to protect you from all these hazards? *Right...


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


4. *Camera trickery prior to alleged moon landing. * Why fake halfway
to the moon when they can go all the way to the moon?


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ings%20faked&u...


5. *No stars in the photos. *Yeah I know about the camera exposure
explanation; this is one of the only explanations debunkers give that
has any substance. *Even letting that slip, you're telling me you go
all the way to the moon and take thousands of photos but not one of
them has stars in them, not even partial exposure, not even a trace?
Keep in mind there is no atmosphere to obscure the stars and the stars
would be much more visible and brighter; like the view from a desert
but even more intense and pure, not dim and easy to obscure as
debunkers would have you believe. *The view of the stars from the moon
without an atmosphere to obscure the light would be incredible. *Yet,
these guys don't even take one photo of the stars? *They don't even
mention the stars. *Are you kidding me? *That would be one of the
first things you would notice. *They don't mention them so that they
don't bring them to your attention.


6. Dark Side of the Moon *Stanley Kubrick directed the holly wood moon
landing hoax.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...%20of%20the%20...


7. Moon rocks. *You can find such rocks on Earth in places like
Antarctica. *They are just asteroids or lunites that have dropped to
Earth and have stayed in good condition because of the ideal stasis
conditions that exist in the Antarctic.


8. *The Russians who were ahead of the USA in space exploration and
technology could bring back about 10 ounces of moon rock at most with
unmanned vessels, yet the USA managed to bring back hundreds of pounds
of moon rocks in manned vessels. *How did this giant leap in
technology happen over night?


9. *Director of NASA takes a trip to Antarctica prior to alleged Moon
landings; most likely to collect so called "moon rocks". *These are
just asteroids; Antarctica because of the ideal conditions to find
untainted rocks that easier to spot against the white background.


10. *Photos showing shadows cast in more than one direction,
consistent with multiple spotlights rather than one sun.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


11. *Rocks with markings like on a movie set.


12. *Flag waving. *The way the flag waves in particular should be
noted. *A flag doesn't wave in this way when manhandled. *Only wind
moves a flag in such a way.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


13. *If you look at the moon rovers and the dirt they fling into the
air, they are consistent with Earth gravity and not Moon gravity. *The
dirt flies up and falls down in an arc consistent with earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20....


14. *When you double the speed of the footage, the astronauts appear
to be running and skipping in earth gravity.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


15. *Astronaut descending into the shadow of the space vessel yet his
body is lit up.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


16. *If it was real, there would be no errors or anything dubious to
point out in the first place. *You can't argue with Truth.


17. Backlit objects being clearly visible from the front. *This
indicates spotlights as used on movie sets.


18. *Area 51, where the moon movie was made has an area covered with
craters ideal for a fake moon landing.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


19. No blast crater where the module landed. *The module is perfectly
clean as well where there should have been dust settling on the craft
from landing.


20. *The module crashed in tests on Earth and was very unstable and
hard to control. *Armstrong had to eject to save his life. *Yet, it
landed flawlessly on the Moon six times, leaving no blast crater each
time.http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


21. *The Russians were sent grain as payment to keep them from
exposing the hoax.


22. Ooops! lol


http://video.google.com/videosearch?...0steps%20on%20...


This should be the correct video for 0 and 22:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5442&ei=3ajeSO...


Aaron Russo before he died revealed what Rockefeller divulged to him:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07&vt=lf&hl=en


Full interview with Aaron Russo:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...26590918&hl=en


Why JFK was killed:

Executive Order 11110 to ban the federal reserve:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

JFK Speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...38481080&hl=en


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On Sep 27, 5:45*pm, wrote:


On Sep 27, 5:38*pm, wrote:


Why was JFK killed?

Executive Order 11110 to re-institute a silver and gold standard that
would diminish the power of the federal reserve:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

JFK Speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...38481080&hl=en
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Not really. *More like sci.electronics.design.


Nova's pancake theory doesn't hold up, since the cores would be left
standing and the pancake collapse would take about 90 seconds or
longer due to the resistance each floor would encounter from the
next. To fall in free-fall fashion in 9 seconds no resistance can be
encountered as they fall. Also, steel beams were found lodged in
buildings far away. If the building were simply falling where do
these beams find the energy to explode outward at such a force to
embed themselves in buildings far away?

Also, there has been no explanation of the explosions in the lower
floors. Not simply one explosion but many even before the planes
hit.

The NIST theory also doesn't hold up since the bottom floors were
undamaged and would resist the fall of the upper floors in their
scenario as well. They also didn't mention the explosions at all. As
for building 7 they say they haven't finished researching it yet.
They also don't account for the unusual way in which some of the beams
were seen to have been cut. They were cut in the exact same fashion
as you'd cut a beam with thermite. The substance you use in
professional demolitions to make diagonal clean cuts as were found.

The amount of molten metal found is inconsistent with the jet fuel
fire theory. They said the beams were 'weakened' not 'melted'. So
then why so much molten steel found? The temperature was not even
near hot enough to melt the steel whatsoever, not even a little. So
how did it get there? Also, if most of the fuel burned upon impact
and lasted about 10 minutes at most, that means the fires were burning
long after on much cooler burning materials such as office material.
And if most of the building is steel and fire resistant materials how
much fuel is left to burn? Where did the fire get fuel that would
burn hot enough to weaken and melt the beams? If jet fuel can't burn
hot enough to melt the steel all that's left is office materials such
as paper, furniture, carpet, drywall, and such materials that burn at
lower temperatures than jet fuel. Keep in mind the beams are also
coated with fire resistant materials. The whole building is designed
to withstand much more severe fires and multiple plane impacts as
described by the designers. It could even stay standing during a
hurricane. The intense smoke is evidence of an oxygen poor fire,
meaning low temperatures and poor fuel.

Why was the evidence shipped out of the USA so quickly? Why wasn't it
allowed to be studied by experts? You'd think they'd want to keep the
evidence for studying to have better research and conclusions to
debunk conspiracy theories. Why the secrecy if there is nothing to
hide?

I don't think the debunkers of the conspiracy theories actually watch
or read the opposing evidence to the official story. Why are they so
eager to believe the official story that is perpetuated by the very
people who funded and planned the destruction of the towers. The
people who actually funded this and planned it are not your friends
they just set the rules. They see you as serfs. On the other hand
I'm trying to help you, to inform you, and you violently attack me.
I've heard both sides of the story, have you? Have you watched the
conspiracy theory videos? They are actually very good and have
logical points made by people who actually built the buildings,
structural engineers, physicists, and other experts in the field which
this pertains.

Also, you have no right to post my private IP information. That is a
more serious offense than discussing my opinions in a civil manner.
I'm free to exercise my right to free speech where I wish. Or are you
in such a rush to reach a fascist society? This topic should be of
interest to all people who would live in a free society. This isn't a
joking matter, many people died, and are still dying because of the
consequences. Don't you want to be sure of what happened so that your
decisions based upon this incident are taken in the right direction?

I have an interest in audio, but I have other interests as well. Why
can't I discuss these issues in a civil manner with other people that
are interested in audio? Why such violent animosity over rational
debate? If you don't like the discussion don't take part in it,
simple as that.
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*"Richard Crowley" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote ...
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Engage it somewhere else if you have any respect for this
newsgroup.
Maybe lead him to rec.audio.opinion, where this piece of
dog**** is just their style.


Not really. *More like sci.electronics.design.


That statement doesn't reflect very well on YOUR judgment.


RAO has many loons to be sure. *But based on a recent encounter with
that other group... MAN!


NIST was asked by opposing experts to discuss and debate the matter
but they refused. If NIST is telling the truth why hide?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IACd...eature=related
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On Sep 28, 11:09*pm, Jenn wrote:



In article ,
*"Richard Crowley" wrote:


"Jenn" wrote ...
wrote:


Engage it somewhere else if you have any respect for this
newsgroup.
Maybe lead him to rec.audio.opinion, where this piece of
dog**** is just their style.


Not really. *More like sci.electronics.design.


That statement doesn't reflect very well on YOUR judgment.


RAO has many loons to be sure. *But based on a recent encounter with
that other group... MAN!


NIST was asked by opposing experts to discuss and debate the matter
but they refused. *If NIST is telling the truth why hide?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IACd...eature=related


Proof that thermite was used to severe the steel beams!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FCqs...eature=related
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What has this got to do with audio?


Clearly nothing.
Plonk the nutbag(s) and get on with your life.
They don't deserve our attention.


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On Sep 29, 2:36*am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Joe Kotroczo" *wrote ...

What has this got to do with audio?


Clearly nothing.
Plonk the nutbag(s) and get on with your life.
They don't deserve our attention.


I've done enough spoon feeding here. Try to feed you purity and you
spit it out. Feed you bull**** and you gulp it down quick. Some of
you are too conditioned to understand the implications or importance
of what has been said here. I'll leave you with the words of these
famous conspiracy theorist and nut jobs:

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from
behind the scenes." -Felix Frankfurter, justice of the U.S. Supreme
Court 1939-1962

"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people
that cannot see further than their eyes, believe."
- Benjamin Disraeli (British Prime Minister)

"... in politics nothing is accidental. If something happens, be
assured it was planned this way."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, etc.,…
this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for
the reconstruction of society on the basis of arrested development, of
the envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily
growing."
- Winston Churchill, 1920

"Behind the October Revolution there are more influential
personalities than the thinkers and executors of Marxism."
- Lenin

"Secret societies have existed among all peoples, savage and
civilized, since the beginning of recorded history...It is beyond
question that the secret societies of all ages have exercised a
considerable degree of political influence."
- Manley P. Hall

"... the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim,
nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in
private hands able to dominate the political system of each country
and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be
controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world
acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private
meetings and conferences."
- Clinton mentor, Prof. Carroll Quigley, author of Tragedy and Hope
(1966)

"I do not fear the Illuminati taking over this United States and doing
away the Constitution, because they took over this country long ago,
and the Constitution has not technically been in effect due to
Presidential emergency decrees since WWII (and before that, too).
Don't think for a moment you are going to vote the Illuminati out of
office. They control the major and minor political parties. They
control the process of government, they control the process of
information flow, they control the process of creating money, and
finally they control Christendom."
- Fritz Springmeier

"Give me the power of the money and it will not matter any more who is
commanding."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"The government should create, issue and circulate all the currency
and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and
the buying power of consumers..... The privilege of creating and
issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but
it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption
of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium will be
satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest,
discounts and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprises, the
maintenance of stable government and ordered progress, and the conduct
of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The
people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own
government. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant
of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power." -
Abraham Lincoln


"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire
against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic
than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than
bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their
methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies,
the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the
two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe. [As a most undesirable
consequence of the war...] Corporations have been enthroned, and an
era of corruption in high places will follow. The money power of the
country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the
prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands
of a few, and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all
property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their
fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the
banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

—Thomas Jefferson, The debate over the recharter of The Bank Bill,
(1809)

"Paper is poverty...it is only the ghost of money, and not money
itself."
-Thomas Jefferson

"I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power
of money, are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies."
-Thomas Jefferson

"Who controls money controls the world."
-Henry Kissinger (Council on Foreign Relations)

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide
everything."
-Josef Stalin (Russian Dictator)

"The new world order will be built... an end run on national
sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than
the old fashioned frontal assault."
-Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Journal 1974, p. 558

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only
question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or
consent."
-Paul Warburg, Council on Foreign Relations and architect of the
Federal Reserve System
In an address to the U.S. Senate. 2/17/1950

"To defend the New World Order, US soldiers will have to kill and
die."
-Arthur Schlesinger, Council on Foreign Relations

-"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in
Foreign Policy."
Henry Kissinger, Council on Foreign Relations

-"The dirty little secret is that both houses of congress are
irrelevant. America's domestic policy is now being run by Alan
Greenspan and the Federal Reserve. America's foreign policy is now
being run by the International Monetary Fund. When the President
decides to go to war, he no longer needs a declaration of war from
congress."
-Robert Reich (Clinton advisor)
Jan 7, 1999 USA Today

“Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers
own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to
create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough
deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and
all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to
disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of
your own slavery, let them continue to create money."
Sir Josiah Stamp - Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928)

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our
banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be
a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford


"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal
its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the
government of the United States. It controls everything here; and it
controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at
will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the
arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and
the Federal Reserve Banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country
of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National
Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the
people should now be restored to the people. The people have a valid
claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.
If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread
lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept. What is needed here
is a return to the Constitution of the United States. The old struggle
that was fought out here in Jackson's day must be fought over again.
The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve
Banks - having violated their charters - should be liquidated
immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their
oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial. Unless this
is done by us, I predict the American people - outraged, robbed,
pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land - will
rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money
changers from the temple." - Congressman Louis T. McFadden before the
House of Representatives, in the midst of the Great Depression, 1932.


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On Sep 29, 2:36 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Joe Kotroczo" wrote ...

What has this got to do with audio?


Clearly nothing.
Plonk the nutbag(s) and get on with your life.
They don't deserve our attention.


I've done enough spoon feeding here. Try to feed you purity and you
spit it out. Feed you bull**** and you gulp it down quick. Some of
you are too conditioned to understand the implications or importance
of what has been said here. I'll leave you with the words of these
famous conspiracy theorist and nut jobs:

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from
behind the scenes." -Felix Frankfurter, justice of the U.S. Supreme
Court 1939-1962

"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people
that cannot see further than their eyes, believe."
- Benjamin Disraeli (British Prime Minister)

"... in politics nothing is accidental. If something happens, be
assured it was planned this way."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, etc.,…
this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for
the reconstruction of society on the basis of arrested development, of
the envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily
growing."
- Winston Churchill, 1920

"Behind the October Revolution there are more influential
personalities than the thinkers and executors of Marxism."
- Lenin

"Secret societies have existed among all peoples, savage and
civilized, since the beginning of recorded history...It is beyond
question that the secret societies of all ages have exercised a
considerable degree of political influence."
- Manley P. Hall

"... the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim,
nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in
private hands able to dominate the political system of each country
and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be
controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world
acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private
meetings and conferences."
- Clinton mentor, Prof. Carroll Quigley, author of Tragedy and Hope
(1966)

"I do not fear the Illuminati taking over this United States and doing
away the Constitution, because they took over this country long ago,
and the Constitution has not technically been in effect due to
Presidential emergency decrees since WWII (and before that, too).
Don't think for a moment you are going to vote the Illuminati out of
office. They control the major and minor political parties. They
control the process of government, they control the process of
information flow, they control the process of creating money, and
finally they control Christendom."
- Fritz Springmeier

"Give me the power of the money and it will not matter any more who is
commanding."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"The government should create, issue and circulate all the currency
and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and
the buying power of consumers..... The privilege of creating and
issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but
it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption
of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium will be
satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest,
discounts and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprises, the
maintenance of stable government and ordered progress, and the conduct
of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The
people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own
government. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant
of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power." -
Abraham Lincoln


"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire
against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic
than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than
bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their
methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies,
the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the
two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe. [As a most undesirable
consequence of the war...] Corporations have been enthroned, and an
era of corruption in high places will follow. The money power of the
country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the
prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands
of a few, and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all
property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their
fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the
banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

—Thomas Jefferson, The debate over the recharter of The Bank Bill,
(1809)

"Paper is poverty...it is only the ghost of money, and not money
itself."
-Thomas Jefferson

"I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power
of money, are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies."
-Thomas Jefferson

"Who controls money controls the world."
-Henry Kissinger (Council on Foreign Relations)

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide
everything."
-Josef Stalin (Russian Dictator)

"The new world order will be built... an end run on national
sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than
the old fashioned frontal assault."
-Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Journal 1974, p. 558

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only
question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or
consent."
-Paul Warburg, Council on Foreign Relations and architect of the
Federal Reserve System
In an address to the U.S. Senate. 2/17/1950

"To defend the New World Order, US soldiers will have to kill and
die."
-Arthur Schlesinger, Council on Foreign Relations

-"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in
Foreign Policy."
Henry Kissinger, Council on Foreign Relations

-"The dirty little secret is that both houses of congress are
irrelevant. America's domestic policy is now being run by Alan
Greenspan and the Federal Reserve. America's foreign policy is now
being run by the International Monetary Fund. When the President
decides to go to war, he no longer needs a declaration of war from
congress."
-Robert Reich (Clinton advisor)
Jan 7, 1999 USA Today

“Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers
own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to
create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough
deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and
all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to
disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of
your own slavery, let them continue to create money."
Sir Josiah Stamp - Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928)

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our
banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be
a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford


"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal
its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the
government of the United States. It controls everything here; and it
controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at
will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the
arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and
the Federal Reserve Banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country
of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National
Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the
people should now be restored to the people. The people have a valid
claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.
If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread
lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept. What is needed here
is a return to the Constitution of the United States. The old struggle
that was fought out here in Jackson's day must be fought over again.
The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve
Banks - having violated their charters - should be liquidated
immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their
oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial. Unless this
is done by us, I predict the American people - outraged, robbed,
pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land - will
rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money
changers from the temple." - Congressman Louis T. McFadden before the
House of Representatives, in the midst of the Great Depression, 1932.

"Drugs will get you through times of no money better than money will get you
through times of no drugs"-Fat Freddy's cat sometime around 1968


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