[Eeyore]

Arny Krueger wrote:

Stereophile sucked "single presentation" right up, and made it their prime
evaluation technique.

Suck would appear to be an appropriate word to use.

Graham

[Eeyore]

Arny Krueger wrote:

wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

The list is at:

www.marcphillips.com

Sorry, but that link doesn't work.

Yes, and its a major boo-boo for a web designer when the site is there but a
link like this doesn't work

talk about not getting the joke!

Registrant:
Marc Phillips
Marc Phillips
1916 28th Av. South
Birmingham, AL 35209
US
Registrar: NameSecure.com
Domain: MARCPHILLIPS.COM
Created on 08-27-2002
Expires on 08-28-2005
Administrative Contact:
Marc Phillips
Phone: 205-870-3239
E-mail:

It does appear to be unknown to my DNS server though.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.



--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

Sander deWaal wrote:

said:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

The list is at:

www.marcphillips.com

Sorry, but that link doesn't work.

Funny, that.
I just tried www.arnykrueger.com , that link didn't work either.

Do you suppose Arny was......lying?
No, can't be. Must be a misspelling of some sort, or Google lied.

Yes, that's it! Google lied!

phew!

http://www.google.com/search?client=...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Graham

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Sander deWaal said:

Funny, that.
I just tried www.arnykrueger.com , that link didn't work either.

Do you suppose Arny was......lying?
No, can't be. Must be a misspelling of some sort, or Google lied.

Yes, that's it! Google lied!

phew!

Its like you can, lead a Goggle™ to a database but it, can't make a Yahoo!
learn what a Krooborg is. NOT!

Unless the Yahoo! server and the Goggle™ server lied to the Krooborg both,
at once, by design, LOt"S.

Terminate that module immediately !

Graham

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Apparently Arny and Graham believe it is possible to get side
by side demonstrations of the Continuum, the Rockport, and the
Clearaudio.

Actually we believe that anything else is simply so heavily flawed as to cast very
serious doubt on its worth.

Graham

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Apparently Arny and Graham believe it is possible to get side
by side demonstrations of the Continuum, the Rockport, and the
Clearaudio.

Actually we believe that anything else is simply so heavily flawed as to cast very
serious doubt on its worth.

Graham

Who is "we," what is "anything else," and how is it so "heavily
flawed"? Or, in other words, do you actually have a valid opinion
about anything?

Boon

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

wrote:
What components would you put into the best money-no-object music
system in the world?

I nominate:

tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000

What should be the other components: speakers, preamp, tuner, DAC,
cd
player, etc.?

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard
it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement,
and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE
with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price of
those
others.

What difference does it make ?

Graham

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

The list is at:

www.marcphillips.com

Sorry, but that link doesn't work.

Yes, and its a major boo-boo for a web designer when the site is there but a
link like this doesn't work

talk about not getting the joke!

No, I got the joke. It was a stupid joke. And my comments made it
look really, really stupid. That's kind of the story of Marc and Arny,
I suppose.

Boon

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
What components would you put into the best money-no-object music
system in the world?

I nominate:

tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000

What should be the other components: speakers, preamp, tuner, DAC, cd
player, etc.?

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement, and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price of those
others.

What difference does it make ?

Graham

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

Graham

Yes, you're right. I don't have an answer to the question, "What
difference does it make?" It was a stupid question. It was far from
tricky, however. Obtuse, yes. Tricky, no.

Boon

[[email protected]]

George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?
Or is he starting to realize that when you lie down with dogs,you get
****-smeared $1000 checks?

Boon
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

wrote:

George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?
Or is he starting to realize that when you lie down with dogs,you get
****-smeared $1000 checks?

Boon
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

wrote:

George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Graham

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Apparently Arny and Graham believe it is possible to get side
by side demonstrations of the Continuum, the Rockport, and the
Clearaudio.

Actually we believe that anything else is simply so heavily flawed as to cast very
serious doubt on its worth.

Graham

Who is "we," what is "anything else," and how is it so "heavily
flawed"? Or, in other words, do you actually have a valid opinion
about anything?

Are you approved to answer my posts ?

Graham

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
What components would you put into the best money-no-object music
system in the world?

I nominate:

tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000

What should be the other components: speakers, preamp, tuner, DAC, cd
player, etc.?

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement, and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price of those
others.

What difference does it make ?

Graham

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

Graham

Yes, you're right. I don't have an answer to the question, "What
difference does it make?" It was a stupid question. It was far from
tricky, however. Obtuse, yes. Tricky, no.

So...... What difference does it make ?

Graham

[George M. Middius]

Arnii's pet donkey is hurtin'.

Who is "we," what is "anything else," and how is it so "heavily
flawed"? Or, in other words, do you actually have a valid opinion
about anything?

Are you approved to answer my posts ?

Who isn't? Other than your pals in Bedlam, that is.






--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Arny Krueger]

wrote in message
oups.com...

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least,

True, but out of budget.

he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could
find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm,

True, and within budget.

and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions.

[Jenn]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

Jenn wrote:,

Eeyore wrote:
Jenn wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
wrote:

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard
it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement,
and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE
with
a Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price
of
those others.

What difference does it make ?

You missed the point Graham, which was for Marc to brag on Usenet
about
all the expensive hardware that he has "heard". No doubt Marc heard
each
TT in a different place, on a different day, with a different audio
system
attached to it, and probably even with different source materials.
Yep,
really close, fair evaluations. NOT!

Just curious: How else does one evaluate multiple TTs? (other than the
source materials should be the same, of course)

Side by side I'd hope.

Graham

No, I mean in the real world.

Side by side ? Anything else requires an 'audible memory' and that can be
very
flawed.

Graham

So unless you can compare side by side, forget purchasing anything?

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Apparently Arny and Graham believe it is possible to get side
by side demonstrations of the Continuum, the Rockport, and the
Clearaudio.

Actually we believe that anything else is simply so heavily flawed as to cast very
serious doubt on its worth.

Graham

Who is "we," what is "anything else," and how is it so "heavily
flawed"? Or, in other words, do you actually have a valid opinion
about anything?

Are you approved to answer my posts ?

Graham

Well, you're definitely not approved to steal my material. It's all
copyrighted. You'll hear from my lawyers.

Boon

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Graham

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Boon

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least,

True, but out of budget.

he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could
find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm,

True, and within budget.

and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions.

In other words, the whole incident backfired on you, and you looked
like an idiot. But then again, that's the essence of the Marc and Arny
Story.

Boon

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
What components would you put into the best money-no-object music
system in the world?

I nominate:

tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000

What should be the other components: speakers, preamp, tuner, DAC, cd
player, etc.?

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement, and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price of those
others.

What difference does it make ?

Graham

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

Graham

Yes, you're right. I don't have an answer to the question, "What
difference does it make?" It was a stupid question. It was far from
tricky, however. Obtuse, yes. Tricky, no.

So...... What difference does it make ?

Graham

Whether or not you're tricky or obtuse? That's for you to decide.

Boon

[George M. Middius]

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Graham

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

As in not listening seriously.

Who said you could reply to my posts anyway ?

Graham

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

[paul packer]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:58:50 GMT, Jenn
wrote:

In article ,
(paul packer) wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:33:58 GMT, Jenn
wrote:

In article ,
"bassett" wrote:

"Ro_ro" wrote in message
...
It'd be interesting (though predictable) to hear what would be his
ultimate...

- house
- car
- trophy wife

... and all those other things you need to really live the American
dream,
boy...

It's quite simply really,, move out of that "George Bush Sewer" and
relocate to OZ.

As for the term trophy wife,, I knew this septic female once, Refused to
give "head" had no bloody idea about anything sexual, and had about 20
layers of make-up on. The bitch lived in a Trailer Park, and thought it
was
heaven. Gerry Springer was her ideal man.
bassett

So if she was such a turn off to you (make up, trailer park, etc.) why
were you in a sexual situation with her?


You're not actually taking bassett at his word, are you?

Nah. Besides, I can't hear him over the sound of his knuckles dragging.

An accurate observation. And nicely RAO bitchy too.

[paul packer]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:05:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Well, all this high end stuff is incomparable, anyhow.


That's quite good, Arnie. You nearly made a joke.

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

Me.

Boon

[paul packer]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:57:42 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

wrote:
What components would you put into the best money-no-object music
system in the world?

I nominate:

tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000

What should be the other components: speakers, preamp, tuner, DAC, cd
player, etc.?

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement, and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price of those
others.

What difference does it make ?

Graham

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

The list is at:

www.marcphillips.com

Here Arnie is jesting. Please don't discourage Arny from jesting when
he feels the spirit. Jesting is a very humanising activity.

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any
more.

Graham

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

As in not listening seriously.

Who said you could reply to my posts anyway ?


You're right. As most Kroopologists, you're simply not smart enough to
have a conversation with me.

Boon

[Harry Lavo]

wrote in message
oups.com...

George M. Middius wrote:
DonkeyBorg brayed:

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on
the list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no
answer to" ?

No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And
not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a
Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head.

I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it.

Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny
really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another
name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega
Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on
e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find,
with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell
everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound
very good.

snip

Or when he bought the lowest priced SACD player available and then
proclaimed he couldn't hear any difference between SACD and CD, so those of
us who did hear a difference (on better players, and possibly with better
systems) were "wrong". Of course this was a year after he had already
reached that conclusion because in his mind theory = evidence.

[Jenn]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a
'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for
entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to
reproduce? ;-)

[George M. Middius]

duh-Donkey dorked:

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?
me of course - and........

Even though your paid hackery is irrelevant to posting opinions about
consumer audio gear, I'll point out that Arnii Krooborg does NOT earn an
income from audio.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

Jenn wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a
'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for
entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to
reproduce? ;-)

It's very nice but strictly a different category.

Graham

[Jenn]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

Jenn wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a
'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for
entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to
reproduce? ;-)

It's very nice but strictly a different category.

Graham

True, but you'd have a hard time without us. Spoken word and sound
effects CDs aren't really top sellers. ;-)

[Eeyore]

Jenn wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a
'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for
entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to
reproduce? ;-)

It's very nice but strictly a different category.

Graham

True, but you'd have a hard time without us. Spoken word and sound
effects CDs aren't really top sellers. ;-)

Just out of interest, by your own estimation, how critical a listener are you ?

My next-door neighbour, a professional violinist amuses me that he listens to music
on a crappy midi system.

Graham

[ScottW]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a
'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for
entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to
reproduce? ;-)

Bunch of money grubbing hoes.
Music should be free and hifi's funded by the government!

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

Jenn wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:

Marc said to Poopie B'ar:

Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy
a
'table?

I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for
entertainment purpose any
more.

Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other
than
entertainment?

Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches
that
"audio is a deadly serious business".

It's only serious when I'm making money from it.

Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ?

Graham

me of course - and........

And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to
reproduce? ;-)

It's very nice but strictly a different category.

Graham

True, but you'd have a hard time without us. Spoken word and sound
effects CDs aren't really top sellers. ;-)

Just out of interest, by your own estimation, how critical a listener are you
?

Very.


My next-door neighbour, a professional violinist amuses me that he listens to
music
on a crappy midi system.

Graham

I have a theory about this kind of thing, which I'll share later.

[Eeyore]

Jenn wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jenn wrote:,
Eeyore wrote:
Jenn wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
wrote:

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard
it, I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio
Statement,
and my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE

with a Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the
price
of those others.

What difference does it make ?

You missed the point Graham, which was for Marc to brag on Usenet
about all the expensive hardware that he has "heard". No doubt Marc
heard
each TT in a different place, on a different day, with a different
audio
system attached to it, and probably even with different source
materials.
Yep, really close, fair evaluations. NOT!

Just curious: How else does one evaluate multiple TTs? (other than the
source materials should be the same, of course)

Side by side I'd hope.

Graham

No, I mean in the real world.

Side by side ? Anything else requires an 'audible memory' and that can be
very flawed.

Graham

So unless you can compare side by side, forget purchasing anything?

In the case of an esoteric turntable, I don't plan buying one so the point is moot
for me.

Graham

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Apparently Arny and Graham believe it is possible to get side
by side demonstrations of the Continuum, the Rockport, and the
Clearaudio.

Actually we believe that anything else is simply so heavily flawed as to cast very
serious doubt on its worth.

Graham

Who is "we," what is "anything else," and how is it so "heavily
flawed"? Or, in other words, do you actually have a valid opinion
about anything?

Are you approved to answer my posts ?

Graham

Well, you're definitely not approved to steal my material. It's all
copyrighted. You'll hear from my lawyers.

LOL !

I assume the 'anach' is short for anachronistic btw ?

Graham

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
What components would you put into the best money-no-object music
system in the world?

I nominate:

tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000

What should be the other components: speakers, preamp, tuner, DAC, cd
player, etc.?

The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've heard it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio Statement, and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act ONE with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the price of those
others.

What difference does it make ?

Graham

Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the
list.

Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ?

Graham

Yes, you're right. I don't have an answer to the question, "What
difference does it make?" It was a stupid question. It was far from
tricky, however. Obtuse, yes. Tricky, no.

So...... What difference does it make ?

Graham

Whether or not you're tricky or obtuse? That's for you to decide.

Your obfuscation is noted.

So..... what difference can you hear between any of the above turntables and arms ?

Graham