SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.



On 9/27/05 5:20 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 11:49 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

Your turn...



reguritation:
"that's when you take
something that belongs in one place and then spew it out all over the
place where nobody wants to deal with it right?"
That's waht you did all right!
You should have used one email rather than a crosspost to 4 groups.

And I would know where that email goes... How? Let's see:
Asking around for someone to admit the initial (inexplicable) crosspost
doesn;t work...
leaving me with a simple direct extremely minimally-invasive option
(especially when compared to the weeklong interminable stream of unwanted
nonsense being dumped across many NG's) of simply, politely, asking folks
who (one generously assumes unaware out of habit) are just continuing a
thread started one place that's suddenly, un-noticed by them, being
splattered all over hell and back, to just take a look and see if they
really need to be continuting a one-NG thread across 4 or more.
No biggie... except for a few like you who seem to be INCENSED when someone
does to YOU want you blithely do to many many many others with reckless
abandon. (or -without- a band on). Couple that with the crap done from the
few of you here in the last week since I realised where this started and you
get a clear picture of what arrested development means in action.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.

On 9/27/05 5:21 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 8:51 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"SSJVCmag" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/05 7:16 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

your annoyance is no more imporant than anyone else's.

Exactly. It's not about that.


I suggest that you just find the person who originally set
up the crossposted thread and deal with him. The rest of
us were just replying to the same audience as was earlier
in the thread.


Dang... Y'know, I tried to find that out and instead of helping, everybody
started making the problem worse, seemingly on purpose.... and nobody
owned
up... You'd think folks'd want to help LIMIT this, but, around here
anyway,
it seems to be the sport du jour. Doesn;t show up from anywhere else. Go
fig.



no, I am talking about your original
problem, not the recent spoofing.
Finding the original crossposter should be fairly easy.

Yeah, but with the inane obfuscation supplied by the folks here, the blame
for this mess lies here at home where it started, was maintained, steroided
and expanded rather than nipped.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.


On 9/27/05 5:22 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 8:50 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"SSJVCmag" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/05 7:13 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"SSJVCmag" wrote in message
...
On 9/22/05 3:17 PM, in article
,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:07:20 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

Any crosspost silliness has been fr days now generated soley by RAO
denizens
intent on re-enacting the French Scene from Holy Grail.

Wrong. You crossposted just yesterday.

Sorry, you lose.

Not Hardly.
Dropping a crumb from a sandwich hardly constitutes Littering.


What you did wasn't exactly littering.
It was more like regurgitating.

Rather than concentrating something where it belongs, that's when you take
something that belongs in one place and then spew it out all over the
place
where nobody wants to deal with it right?



That is exactly what you did.

Not Hardly. Your use of 'regurgitation' fit so well for the dead-on
description of what the few here have been doing I couldn't pas it up.
"exactly what I did" was simply asking 'whodunit' only where it seemed
probable, then quickly found it was some genius in RAO where it makes sense
and doesn;t bother the older kids who find it droll at best, and since then
have pretty much kept the discussion on my side in RAO only for this. That a
few of the braintrusts here seem to enjoy being the predominant source of
both the instigating of fresh CP -and- the jawdropping continuing
forced-outsplattering CP grafitti boggles any adult.
Again, throughout ALL of this, as always, the amount of Cp splatter in
sheer numbers of posts and incomprehensible textural volume within said
posts coming from RAO denizens just dwarfs me to insignificance (except
opbviously in the hypersensitive quirky mental realms of a few of you here
who can;t seem to get past it).

Your turn...

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.


On 9/27/05 5:23 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 7:17 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"SSJVCmag" wrote in message
...
On 9/22/05 6:23 PM, in article , "Clyde
Slick" wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:07:20 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

Any crosspost silliness has been fr days now generated soley by RAO
denizens
intent on re-enacting the French Scene from Holy Grail.

Wrong. You crossposted just yesterday.

Sorry, you lose.



And now we founsd out that this FRAUD has been doing the
same thing on ahost of other newsgroups. He is THE BIGGEST crossposter
around here!!

You flatter me inaccurately. Honestly, there's just NO contest going up
against you guys here when you trigger this stuff. That you consider my
miniscule, heavily-edited, lo-text-volume, on-topic and
maximally-narrowcast, fewest NG's possible efforts anything annoying at
all
compared to your marvelously massive work in the genre is really just too
much...
I can;t accept this award, please...
But thanks.



Measure your actions against those of any particular
individual, not the totality of the rest of us. That is
just not a valid comparison.

A gang hiding an individual is more of a problem than the individual,
carries more responsibility, and indeed is a very real source of the answer.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.


On 9/27/05 5:24 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 7:16 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

your annoyance is no more imporant than anyone else's.

Exactly. It's not about that.


I suggest that you just find the person who originally set
up the crossposted thread and deal with him. The rest of
us were just replying to the same audience as was earlier
in the thread.


Dang... Y'know, I tried to find that out and instead of helping, everybody
started making the problem worse, seemingly on purpose.... and nobody owned
up... You'd think folks'd want to help LIMIT this, but, around here anyway,
it seems to be the sport du jour. Doesn;t show up from anywhere else. Go
fig.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.

On 9/27/05 5:25 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 7:16 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

your annoyance is no more imporant than anyone else's.

Exactly. It's not about that.


I suggest that you just find the person who originally set
up the crossposted thread and deal with him. The rest of
us were just replying to the same audience as was earlier
in the thread.


Dang... Y'know, I tried to find that out and instead of helping, everybody
started making the problem worse, seemingly on purpose.... and nobody owned
up... You'd think folks'd want to help LIMIT this, but, around here anyway,
it seems to be the sport du jour. Doesn;t show up from anywhere else. Go
fig.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.



On 9/27/05 5:27 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 2:34 PM, in article ,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:02:49 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

On 9/22/05 3:17 PM, in article ,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:07:20 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

Any crosspost silliness has been fr days now generated soley by RAO
denizens
intent on re-enacting the French Scene from Holy Grail.

Wrong. You crossposted just yesterday.

Sorry, you lose.

Not Hardly.

Thanks for admitting that you lose.

Or are you unfamiliar with the concept of a double negative?

Nope, you just need a brushup on your John Wayne trivia.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.



On 9/27/05 5:29 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
Hey!
Look what I found somehow zipping across
rec.audio.tech, rec.audio.pro, rec.audio.tubes, rec.audio.misc
and I didn't have to do a THING but post a response to an RAO thread here
and POOF, some weird repost thing takes it and apparently randomly makes up
a whole new crosspost list and BOOM... Something pretending to be me shows
up all over!
The internet never ceases to amaze me in the things it can seemingly do all
by itself.


On 9/26/05 1:23 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/22/05 3:17 PM, in article ,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:07:20 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

Any crosspost silliness has been fr days now generated soley by RAO
denizens
intent on re-enacting the French Scene from Holy Grail.

Wrong. You crossposted just yesterday.

Sorry, you lose.

Not Hardly.
Dropping a crumb from a sandwich hardly constitutes Littering.

SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/27/05 6:12 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"SSJVCmag" wrote in message
...
Dead-on. George has you guys pegged.



Your lack of self awareness is even more profound than
that of duh...Mikey. I didn't think it was possible.


Yeppers!
There are surprises every day for those who look for them!

SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/27/05 6:09 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:
There is no mess, and no blame, except for all of your useless posts.



"SSJVCmag" wrote in message
Hardly useless!


Idiot, they didn't work, they just engendered further
crosspsots in response to yours. What worked was when you
FINALLY stopped crosspsoting yourself.


Let's see... You're saying that
1- I posted stuff here in conversation.
2- Somebody(s) here decided, in a snit and a huff, that they had to add
crosspost distribution due to some perceived slight or hypersensitivity to
their own personal responsibility.

Ohhhhhhhh kay...

SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/27/05 6:08 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"SSJVCmag" wrote in message

No biggie... except for a few like you who seem to be INCENSED when
someone
does to YOU want you blithely do to many many many others with reckless
abandon. (or -without- a band on). Couple that with the crap done from the
few of you here in the last week since I realised where this started and
you
get a clear picture of what arrested development means in action.


Its simple, man, we just don't like
your incessant crossposting for the purposes of complaining
about other people's crossposting.

Well, Slick, first let's get the 'incessant crossposter' thing straight...
'Incessant' is fairly synonymous here with 'unceasing' and indeed I was
happily able to stop that as soon as I figured out where this was coming
from, since then it's been RAO pretty much all the way with no multi-NG
messages (except of course for those that A Certain Somebody from around
-here- keeps shooting out!) then, as far as your point above, the answer's
pretty clear now that you state it that way...
Just don't START the crossposting and if you -do-, the easiest thing is to
trim off the extra NG's ASAP... Worked for me...
I can see that.

SSJVCmag wrote:
-this- message actually went to FOUR (4!) different NG's
(tech/pro/tubes/misc) and NONE of them was RAO where it was pulled from!
Somebody's workin' hard... amazing!
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.




On 9/27/05 5:47 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/27/05 2:09 PM, in article ,
"Sander deWaal" wrote:

SSJVCmag said:

Dang... Y'know, I tried to find that out and instead of helping, everybody
started making the problem worse, seemingly on purpose....


Problem? What problem?

No likee, no clickee!

Hey, that's a GREAT idea.. Could you show me how that works?

SSJVCmag wrote:
-this- message actually went to FOUR (4!) different NG's
(tech/pro/tubes/misc) and NONE of them was RAO where it was pulled from!
Somebody's workin' hard... amazing!
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.



On 9/27/05 5:46 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/27/05 3:19 PM, in article , "George Middius"
wrote:




Sander deWaal said:

No likee, no clickee!

The 'borgs aren't smart enough to use that principle. They want to rid the
world
of every bit of confusing information. And as you know, it takes very little
to
confuse them. They can't distinguish marketing hype from scientific
treatises,
nor Usenet gabbing from legal pleadings. For you to suggest that simply
ignoring
things that unsettle them will resolve anything flies in the face of the
hyperobsessive nature of 'borgs.\

Dead-on. George has you guys pegged.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.



On 9/27/05 5:29 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
Hey!
Look what I found somehow zipping across
rec.audio.tech, rec.audio.pro, rec.audio.tubes, rec.audio.misc
and I didn't have to do a THING but post a response to an RAO thread here
and POOF, some weird repost thing takes it and apparently randomly makes up
a whole new crosspost list and BOOM... Something pretending to be me shows
up all over!
The internet never ceases to amaze me in the things it can seemingly do all
by itself.


On 9/26/05 1:23 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/22/05 3:17 PM, in article ,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:07:20 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

Any crosspost silliness has been fr days now generated soley by RAO
denizens
intent on re-enacting the French Scene from Holy Grail.

Wrong. You crossposted just yesterday.

Sorry, you lose.

Not Hardly.
Dropping a crumb from a sandwich hardly constitutes Littering.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.

On 9/27/05 5:25 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 7:16 PM, in article , "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

your annoyance is no more imporant than anyone else's.

Exactly. It's not about that.


I suggest that you just find the person who originally set
up the crossposted thread and deal with him. The rest of
us were just replying to the same audience as was earlier
in the thread.


Dang... Y'know, I tried to find that out and instead of helping, everybody
started making the problem worse, seemingly on purpose.... and nobody owned
up... You'd think folks'd want to help LIMIT this, but, around here anyway,
it seems to be the sport du jour. Doesn;t show up from anywhere else. Go
fig.

SSJVCmag wrote:
This is just the most remarkable thing, there's a whacky net-wormhole that's
independantly reposting normal single-RAO postings onto other newsgroups.
Interesting stuff.



On 9/27/05 5:27 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/26/05 2:34 PM, in article ,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:02:49 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

On 9/22/05 3:17 PM, in article ,
"dave weil" wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:07:20 GMT, SSJVCmag
wrote:

Any crosspost silliness has been fr days now generated soley by RAO
denizens
intent on re-enacting the French Scene from Holy Grail.

Wrong. You crossposted just yesterday.

Sorry, you lose.

Not Hardly.

Thanks for admitting that you lose.

Or are you unfamiliar with the concept of a double negative?

Nope, you just need a brushup on your John Wayne trivia.

In article .com,
wrote:

Looks like a forgery being made through an open proxy on a Cedant machine
on 216.55.132.174, through Google. I'd send complaints both to
, and .

A google search shows this to be a very actively abused proxy, if it's
not the actual Cedant customer doing the abuse. The ssh server on
port 80 is a nice touch, too.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 9/28/05 12:19 PM, in article , "Scott
Dorsey" wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:

Looks like a forgery being made through an open proxy on a Cedant machine
on 216.55.132.174, through Google. I'd send complaints both to
, and .

A google search shows this to be a very actively abused proxy, if it's
not the actual Cedant customer doing the abuse. The ssh server on
port 80 is a nice touch, too.
--scott


I guess -anybody- annoyed by this stuff might send complaints that way?

Thanks Scott.

SSJVCmag wrote:

Check it... ain't me doin' this flavor of sidwalk trash dumping.
Consider the source.

Ah, someone's impersonating you from hotmail. What a pain
in the ass but I guess that's the point. Sigh.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

On 9/28/05 1:57 PM, in article , "Bob Cain"
wrote:



SSJVCmag wrote:

Check it... ain't me doin' this flavor of sidwalk trash dumping.
Consider the source.

Ah, someone's impersonating you from hotmail.

Not even sure of THAT... there're 3 APPARENT accounts so far from YAHOO and
most lately hotmail and an additional one with varied spelling of the front
of the email ID

What a pain
in the ass but I guess that's the point. Sigh.

Indeed, ... Somebody's got way too much time and no life and they figure
EVERYBODY should get the pain!
Go fig.
Then again, it's from RAO...

SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/28/05 1:57 PM, in article , "Bob Cain"
wrote:



SSJVCmag wrote:

Check it... ain't me doin' this flavor of sidwalk trash dumping.
Consider the source.

Ah, someone's impersonating you from hotmail.

Not even sure of THAT... there're 3 APPARENT accounts so far from YAHOO and
most lately hotmail and an additional one with varied spelling of the front
of the email ID

What a pain
in the ass but I guess that's the point. Sigh.

Indeed, ... Somebody's got way too much time and no life and they figure
EVERYBODY should get the pain!
Go fig.
Then again, it's from RAO...


Stop spamming RAO and all will be well. It's up to you.

In article .com,
wrote:

SSJVCmag wrote:
On 9/28/05 1:57 PM, in article , "Bob Cain"
wrote:



SSJVCmag wrote:

Check it... ain't me doin' this flavor of sidwalk trash dumping.
Consider the source.

Ah, someone's impersonating you from hotmail.

Not even sure of THAT... there're 3 APPARENT accounts so far from YAHOO and
most lately hotmail and an additional one with varied spelling of the front
of the email ID

What a pain
in the ass but I guess that's the point. Sigh.

Indeed, ... Somebody's got way too much time and no life and they figure
EVERYBODY should get the pain!
Go fig.
Then again, it's from RAO...


Stop spamming RAO and all will be well. It's up to you.

Meanwhile, you feel like you have to "punish" all in RAO.

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:58:31 GMT, "
wrote:

Right after WW2 the US arguably had a national obsession with WW2. As a
nation we mulled it over again and again. We had movies about it, TV
shows about it, magazine articles about it, books about it, and even a
president or two (Eisenhower and Kennedy) about it.

Imagine that. Simply because it was the biggest threat to freedom in the
world up until that time and a magnificent stand with an uncertain outcome
by the free people of the world. Obsessed? Shame on us!
Then why were so many people against joining in the war? Until Pearl
Harbor, and after there was a very large anti-war contingent.


It wasn't perceived as a threat to America until Pearl Harbour.
Though happy to accept refugees from Hitler's oppression, even the
Jewish lobby didn't seem to see any reason to go over there and stop
it happening. Though, of course rescuing Europe in WW2 was used as
leverage towards the creation of Israel, a promise made by the Balfour
declaration of 1917, but conveniently forgotten.

Compare the current "concern" for the well-being of the Iraqi
population.

International politics is not a clean game.

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:14:38 +0200, Chel van Gennip
wrote:

Just for the record, in 1917 Balfour promissed several things as a
package deal, the declaration reads:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in
Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their
best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being
clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the
civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in
Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any
other country."

Indeed. And, as it was patently impossible to give land to Israel
without taking it away from someone else, the third clause provides a
get-out. Nice one, Arthur :-)

In article , "Robert Morein"
wrote:

He was not
a charasmatic person, though I can provide one personal anecdote. It happens
we took the same New Jersey Transit train. One morning, we got off together.
I saw a man of such stunning radiance that I picked him out of a crowd of a
hundred people


This anecdote resulted in a visit from the police after Hirsch complained
that my son was stalking him, it wasn't happenstance at all. Sadly, it
wasn't the first time, and hasn't been the last, either.

Unfortunately, Bob can NEVER admit he's been beaten, or he's wrong. He
spent 12 years in college trying to write a thesis that was totally without
any scientific merit. When Drexel got tired of his bleating about not
giving him a degree, he sued them. And even after he was proven IN COURT to
have been wrong, he insisted on appealing to the Supreme Court in
Washington. And then he criticized THE SUPREME COURT and HIS OWN LAWYER for
"erroneous legal reasoning"!

He then wanted ME to fund a lawsuit against his LAWYER!

So you're not going to change him, god knows his mother tried and it killed
her.



Dr. Sylvan Morein, DDS

PROVEN PUBLISHED FACTS about my Son, Robert Morein
--

Bob Morein History
--
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm

Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
By L. STUART DITZEN
Philadelphia Inquirer

PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.

They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
to challenge his dismissal.

The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.

"It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
do come to a larger issue here."

An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
by the media and the public.

Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser.

But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.

Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
computer engineering.

Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
patented.

A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.


In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.

An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.


Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.

Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.

That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.

Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
state Superior Court.

The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
affairs was reasserted.

The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
litigation, that would have been the end of it.

But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.

Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
compensation.

"Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
happened to him is pretty common."

It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."

"I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
"We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
pursuing self-destructive litigation."

No **** sherlock.

The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.

His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
and electronic systems.

The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
nuclear plant or a computer.

My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.


Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
through a university lawyer, declined to comment.

At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
related to estimation theory.

Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
industrial processes.

Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
problem Kalata had presented.

Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.

K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.

Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
became alienated from Kalata.

As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.

Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
asked for a new faculty adviser.

The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.

Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
complete his thesis.

So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant!


Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.

Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.


Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."

So much for political machine judges.

The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
about 100 of them.

Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
Pennsylvania courts.

Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.

Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.


"I had to seek closure," he said.

Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.

Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
bulletlike stream of water.


FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.

"I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
gnawing thing."

In article , "Robert Morein"
wrote:

He was not
a charasmatic person, though I can provide one personal anecdote. It happens
we took the same New Jersey Transit train. One morning, we got off together.
I saw a man of such stunning radiance that I picked him out of a crowd of a
hundred people


This anecdote resulted in a visit from the police after Hirsch complained
that my son was stalking him, it wasn't happenstance at all. Sadly, it
wasn't the first time, and hasn't been the last, either.

Unfortunately, Bob can NEVER admit he's been beaten, or he's wrong. He
spent 12 years in college trying to write a thesis that was totally without
any scientific merit. When Drexel got tired of his bleating about not
giving him a degree, he sued them. And even after he was proven IN COURT to
have been wrong, he insisted on appealing to the Supreme Court in
Washington. And then he criticized THE SUPREME COURT and HIS OWN LAWYER for
"erroneous legal reasoning"!

He then wanted ME to fund a lawsuit against his LAWYER!

So you're not going to change him, god knows his mother tried and it killed
her.



Dr. Sylvan Morein, DDS

PROVEN PUBLISHED FACTS about my Son, Robert Morein
--

Bob Morein History
--
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm

Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
By L. STUART DITZEN
Philadelphia Inquirer

PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.

They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
to challenge his dismissal.

The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.

"It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
do come to a larger issue here."

An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
by the media and the public.

Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser.

But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.

Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
computer engineering.

Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
patented.

A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.


In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.

An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.


Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.

Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.

That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.

Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
state Superior Court.

The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
affairs was reasserted.

The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
litigation, that would have been the end of it.

But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.

Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
compensation.

"Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
happened to him is pretty common."

It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."

"I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
"We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
pursuing self-destructive litigation."

No **** sherlock.

The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.

His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
and electronic systems.

The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
nuclear plant or a computer.

My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.


Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
through a university lawyer, declined to comment.

At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
related to estimation theory.

Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
industrial processes.

Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
problem Kalata had presented.

Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.

K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.

Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
became alienated from Kalata.

As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.

Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
asked for a new faculty adviser.

The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.

Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
complete his thesis.

So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant!


Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.

Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.


Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."

So much for political machine judges.

The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
about 100 of them.

Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
Pennsylvania courts.

Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.

Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.


"I had to seek closure," he said.

Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.

Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
bulletlike stream of water.


FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.

"I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
gnawing thing."