Hi all, I have been a live sound tech for 7 years and am looking to
get into computer based recording and mixing. I only have about a
thousand dollars to spend (after the initial power book purchase) to
spend on a firewire interface and software. Any ideas?????

I am looking to completly bypass the mackie sound board that I have
been using.

Thank you ahead of time for your input....

wrote:
Hi all, I have been a live sound tech for 7 years and am looking to
get into computer based recording and mixing. I only have about a
thousand dollars to spend (after the initial power book purchase) to
spend on a firewire interface and software. Any ideas?????

How many tracks do you want to be able to record at one time? Are you
familiar with any software already?


--
Eric

www.Raw-Tracks.com
www.Mad-Host.com

You might check out a version of Cubase that comes with an interface. It
might be called Cubase Studio.

Bill

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Hi all, I have been a live sound tech for 7 years and am looking to
get into computer based recording and mixing. I only have about a
thousand dollars to spend (after the initial power book purchase) to
spend on a firewire interface and software. Any ideas?????

I am looking to completly bypass the mackie sound board that I have
been using.

Thank you ahead of time for your input....

Same here, but I am considering the mackie onyx 1620 with firewire
option which i think can be had for about 1K... see above thread....
looking forward to this one! Peter

On 20 Feb 2005 17:30:13 -0800, "
wrote:

Hi all, I have been a live sound tech for 7 years and am looking to
get into computer based recording and mixing. I only have about a
thousand dollars to spend (after the initial power book purchase) to
spend on a firewire interface and software. Any ideas?????

I am looking to completly bypass the mackie sound board that I have
been using.

Thank you ahead of time for your input....

I need to be able to record 12-16 tracks max

I am not really knowledgable with any of the software out there.

I need to be able to record 12-16 tracks max

I am not really knowledgable with any of the software out there.

I was thinking about the firepod from prosonus which comes with cubase
le, but for every 10 people I talk to I get 10 different answers.

wrote:
I need to be able to record 12-16 tracks max

12-16 at a time? Or 12-16 total? What I'm getting at is do you need an
interface with 2 ins, 8 ins, or more? That will help to determine which
interface to purchase.


--
Eric

www.Raw-Tracks.com
www.Mad-Host.com

I'm sorry kind of new at this newsgroup thing.

Anyway that is 12-16 TOTAL inputs needed.

thanks for your help

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I'm sorry kind of new at this newsgroup thing.

Anyway that is 12-16 TOTAL inputs needed.

thanks for your help


You could take a look at the MOTU 828mkII. That will give you 8 analog
and 8 digital i/o via LightPipe. You will need to get an 8 channel
analog to digital converter with lightpipe i/o. The 828 will come with
recording software for Mac.

--
Eric

www.Raw-Tracks.com
www.Mad-Host.com

I'll check it out thanks

Question??? Why do I need a lightpipe??(exactly please)

And where can I get one.

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Question??? Why do I need a lightpipe??(exactly please)

And where can I get one.

The 828 has 16 channel capability via the firewire
but only 8 audio ins and outs. The lightpipe will
let you bring in another 8 channels by using a
separate 8 channel A-D into the 828 on the
lightpipe in. (lipghtpipe carries 8 channels
of audio @ 48kHz) This is a common setup.
Kind of like a generic version of "ProTools"
Frontier's Tango 24 (for example) will give
you 8 audio I/O via the lightpipe.
Are you sure you want to do this on a laptop ?
Why not a HD24 with the fireport ?

rd

Planing on using the laptop for school (i'm on a tight budget). So it
needs to be done on the laptop.

Thank you for the info on the lightpipe

wrote:
I'm sorry kind of new at this newsgroup thing.

Anyway that is 12-16 TOTAL inputs needed.


how many outputs?

dale

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Question??? Why do I need a lightpipe??(exactly please)

To get more than 8 analog inputs with the Motu box that was recomended.

AFAIK Motu does have a 24 -input box but the inputs are all line-level. If
you want to use mics with it, you will also need to use a mixing console
(route inserts or direct outs to the interface) or additional mic preamps.

And where can I get one.

What you may want is a 8-input extender with a lightpipe output, if you want
to use the MOTU 8-input device that was recommended. One such unit is the
Behringer ADA8000.

Arny Krueger wrote:
snip
AFAIK Motu does have a 24 -input box but the inputs are all line-level. If
you want to use mics with it, you will also need to use a mixing console
(route inserts or direct outs to the interface) or additional mic preamps.

MOTU has the 24i/o for 24 analog i/o. It is a PCI base device however,
and the OP was looking for a Firewire solution. Otherwise, yeah, the
24i/o is a great solution for PCI based interfaces.

--
Eric

www.Raw-Tracks.com
www.Mad-Host.com

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I was thinking about the firepod from prosonus which comes with cubase
le, but for every 10 people I talk to I get 10 different answers.

That's because there are actually about 30 different answers that make about
equal sense, given what we know so far. You need to ask 20 more people to
get the whole picture! ;-)

In article . com writes:

I need to be able to record 12-16 tracks max

I am not really knowledgable with any of the software out there.

Many programs have demo versions. Get some. Play with them. Most will
give you an idea of how they work even if you have only a generic
sound card in your computer. Choose your weapon first, then find a
platform that runs it well.



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In article .com writes:

I was thinking about the firepod from prosonus which comes with cubase
le, but for every 10 people I talk to I get 10 different answers.

That's not unreasonable considering that they're probably doing ten
different things with it.

Here are some great truths:

1. You have to understand some fundamentals in order to narrow down
your choices to a certain range. Do you REALLY need a Firepod?

2. Few things really suck

3. Whatever you choose, someone will tell you that it sucks and you
should have chosen what he chose.

4. What's best for one user may not be best for another user, at least
partially justifying #3.

4. Your first purchase won't be your last

5. It's important to get some working experience so you can make your
own choices intelligently. You won't get this experience until you
get something of your own set up.



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In article .com writes:

Anyway that is 12-16 TOTAL inputs needed.

Still not a complete answer.

Do you want to set up your whole band and record all the players in a
single pass, which may require 12-16 microphones or line inputs?

Are you a one-man band with a bunch of keyboards, a guitar, a bass, a
drum set, and a few microphones, recording only one part in a pass?

Do you have no plans but just want to be prepared for anything that
might come up?

Inputs are places to connect things. They can be jacks on a mixer,
jacks on a computer audio interface, or jacks on a patchbay. Some
people buy mixers not to mix, but because they want enough jacks to
plug everything in to so they don't have to move cables. Some people
think that because they envision a 16 track project, they need
something with 16 inputs, when in reality they only need one or two
inputs because there's only one musician playing at a time.

You may understand this, but it's not coming across. If you did
understand it, you'd probalby have a clearer idea of what you need and
your choice should be determined by your budget and what's most
convenient to buy.

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However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

I only need stereo main outputs and then a set of control room or
monitor outputs. anything else would just be icing on the cake.

p.s. earlier I said I was interested in the firpod by presonus. Is the
motu 828 better out of the box or is it just more widely used.

Also if anyone has used the firepod and wants to e-mail me directly on
their impression it would be great.

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" wrote:

I only need stereo main outputs and then a set of control room or
monitor outputs. anything else would just be icing on the cake.

p.s. earlier I said I was interested in the firpod by presonus. Is the
motu 828 better out of the box or is it just more widely used.

Also if anyone has used the firepod and wants to e-mail me directly on
their impression it would be great.


You could also check out the new Traveler by MOTU instead of the
828mkII. I finally got my hands on one and they're about $900US. 4 mic
preamps, up to 192khz recording, and a really flexible routing matrix.

the mackie onyx
mr rivers is doing a review of them and has indicate that multi
tracking is possible. but they are stereo only for computer out
interface. you are used to mackies and it will introduce only a few
small new technology needs into your endeavor.

dale

yeah, but one of the reason's I want to do this is because the Mackie
sucks!!!!!!!! There is a constant buzzing and in the five years we
have used this board it has never performed up to any decent standards.

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yeah, but one of the reason's I want to do this is because the Mackie
sucks!!!!!!!! There is a constant buzzing and in the five years we
have used this board it has never performed up to any decent standards.

Maybe, but if you have a ground loop issue, using a new console isn't
going to solve it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

we don't have a ground loop issue. One of the guys that use to do
sound for us would bring in his yamaha board and use it instead of our
mackie. The issues that we were having would then disappear. so by
process of elimination the problem lies with our board, but the cost of
a new one or the cost of repair is not high on the budget meetings
agenda.

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we don't have a ground loop issue. One of the guys that use to do
sound for us would bring in his yamaha board and use it instead of our
mackie. The issues that we were having would then disappear. so by
process of elimination the problem lies with our board, but the cost of
a new one or the cost of repair is not high on the budget meetings
agenda.


You either have a ground issue, a service issue on the Mackie or
a self created interfacing issue. I would entertain hearing what your
"issues" are and with what model and age of Mackie though...