People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

jak163 said:

People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

I still vote for KT88s PP in triode. Absolute winner.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

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jak163 said:

People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

I still vote for KT88s PP in triode. Absolute winner.


KT66's PP in triode

"Clyde Slick" said:

I still vote for KT88s PP in triode. Absolute winner.

KT66's PP in triode

An attractive runner-up.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"jak163" wrote in message
...
People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

And try not to think about how much OBL's recent tape sounded like Democrat
talking points.

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:18:43 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"jak163" wrote in message
.. .
People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

And try not to think about how much OBL's recent tape sounded like Democrat
talking points.

I think Bin Laden wants Bush. He's a smart man, and he must know that
it will help Bush to appear to oppose him in the election. I think
9/11 had to be intended as a provocation--what good would it do him if
we just went after him covertly? It was like the assassination of
Franz Ferdinand. If Austria had just gone after the Black Hand, the
Habsburg Empire would have retained its hold on Serbia. With World
War I, the Habsburg Empire was destroyed.

In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net. The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge
of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.
Oil prices are high, which harms the U.S. economy. All in all, Bush
has served Bin Laden's purposes very well. Another four years, and it
could be the end of America's global dominance.

"jak163" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:18:43 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"jak163" wrote in message
. ..
People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

And try not to think about how much OBL's recent tape sounded like
Democrat
talking points.

I think Bin Laden wants Bush. He's a smart man, and he must know that
it will help Bush to appear to oppose him in the election. I think
9/11 had to be intended as a provocation--what good would it do him if
we just went after him covertly? It was like the assassination of
Franz Ferdinand. If Austria had just gone after the Black Hand, the
Habsburg Empire would have retained its hold on Serbia. With World
War I, the Habsburg Empire was destroyed.

In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net.

Just most of their leadership.

The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge
of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.

You think Iran is going to Nuke us?

Oil prices are high, which harms the U.S. economy. All in all, Bush
has served Bin Laden's purposes very well. Another four years, and it
could be the end of America's global dominance.

Riiiiiigggghhht.

"Michael McKelvy" said:

The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge
of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.

You think Iran is going to Nuke us?

Israel is within their reach.
If Israel is attacked, the US will (have to) react.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Michael McKelvy" said:

The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge
of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.

You think Iran is going to Nuke us?

Israel is within their reach.
If Israel is attacked, the US will (have to) react.

If Iran attacked Israel, Iran would be reduced to dust in minutes. The
Israelis have their own nukes and would not hesitate to respond.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Michael McKelvy" said:

The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge
of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.

You think Iran is going to Nuke us?

Israel is within their reach.
If Israel is attacked, the US will (have to) react.


I think Iran is more likely to arm a suitable proxy with nukes,
for that purpose. They get plausible deniability, and insulation from
immediate retaliation, as Israel needs to be sure of the source,
before responding.

Michael McKelvy wrote:

"jak163" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:18:43 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"jak163" wrote in message
...

People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

And try not to think about how much OBL's recent tape sounded like
Democrat
talking points.

I think Bin Laden wants Bush. He's a smart man, and he must know that
it will help Bush to appear to oppose him in the election. I think
9/11 had to be intended as a provocation--what good would it do him if
we just went after him covertly? It was like the assassination of
Franz Ferdinand. If Austria had just gone after the Black Hand, the
Habsburg Empire would have retained its hold on Serbia. With World
War I, the Habsburg Empire was destroyed.

In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net.


Just most of their leadership.

The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge

of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.


You think Iran is going to Nuke us?


Oil prices are high, which harms the U.S. economy.A ll in all, Bush
has served Bin Laden's purposes very well. Another four years, and it
could be the end of America's global dominance.


Riiiiiigggghhht.



And the retard snaps back : "Riiiiiigggghhht."

jak163 writes:
"In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net. .. All in all, Bush has served Bin Laden's purposes
very well."

And the retard goes "Duh! riiiiiiiighghtghtght!"

Un****ingbelievable.

Fella wrote:

And the retard goes "Duh! riiiiiiiighghtghtght!"

Un****ingbelievable.

Welcome to R.A.O. Mikey's just like that.

"Fella" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:

"jak163" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:18:43 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"jak163" wrote in message
m...

People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

And try not to think about how much OBL's recent tape sounded like
Democrat
talking points.

I think Bin Laden wants Bush. He's a smart man, and he must know that
it will help Bush to appear to oppose him in the election. I think
9/11 had to be intended as a provocation--what good would it do him if
we just went after him covertly? It was like the assassination of
Franz Ferdinand. If Austria had just gone after the Black Hand, the
Habsburg Empire would have retained its hold on Serbia. With World
War I, the Habsburg Empire was destroyed.

In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net.


Just most of their leadership.

The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge

of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.


You think Iran is going to Nuke us?


Oil prices are high, which harms the U.S. economy.A ll in all, Bush
has served Bin Laden's purposes very well. Another four years, and it
could be the end of America's global dominance.


Riiiiiigggghhht.

And the retard snaps back : "Riiiiiigggghhht."

jak163 writes:
"In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net. .. All in all, Bush has served Bin Laden's purposes very
well."

And the retard goes "Duh! riiiiiiiighghtghtght!"

Un****ingbelievable.

What's unbelievable is the idea that Bin Laden wants Bush, or that Bush has
served his purposes. Was it Bin Laden's purpose to have most of his leaders
dead or captured? I don't think so. Anybody who thinks Bin Laden's net
personnel have not been reduced is simply smoking crack.

BTW, **** you.

"jak163" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:18:43 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"jak163" wrote in message
. ..
People:

Whoever you want to win tomorrow, don't neglect to vote. And make
sure you urge everyone you know to vote. It's a democracy--let's make
it count.

And try not to think about how much OBL's recent tape sounded like
Democrat
talking points.

I think Bin Laden wants Bush. He's a smart man, and he must know that
it will help Bush to appear to oppose him in the election. I think
9/11 had to be intended as a provocation--what good would it do him if
we just went after him covertly? It was like the assassination of
Franz Ferdinand. If Austria had just gone after the Black Hand, the
Habsburg Empire would have retained its hold on Serbia. With World
War I, the Habsburg Empire was destroyed.

In response to 9/11, we've taken out Saddam, who headed a secular
regime Bin Laden opposed, isolated ourselves from the world, and
pinned down all our military resources without reducing Al Qaeda's
personnel on net. The UN is in tatters and we could be on the verge
of a nuclear war with Iran, which could escalate to include Israel.
Oil prices are high, which harms the U.S. economy. All in all, Bush
has served Bin Laden's purposes very well. Another four years, and it
could be the end of America's global dominance.

Bush has crimped their fundraising, wiped out
their training camps and caught or killed abut 2/3 of his senior leaders.
The only reason he would want Bush is if
he felt had a reasonable chance for a massive nuclear or
dirty bomb attack on Washington, whereby he would wipe him out.
He would love to get him. Now, if he felt that
it wasn't doable, he would want Kerry for 8 years
so he could quietly reestablish his assets.

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:49:05 -0500, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

Bush has crimped their fundraising, wiped out
their training camps and caught or killed abut 2/3 of his senior leaders.

Bush has claimed this on the campaign trail but the Pentagon has
conceded it hasn't made any progress against Al Qaeda.

"jak163" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:49:05 -0500, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

Bush has crimped their fundraising, wiped out
their training camps and caught or killed abut 2/3 of his senior leaders.

Bush has claimed this on the campaign trail but the Pentagon has
conceded it hasn't made any progress against Al Qaeda.

Can you supply the specific quote in context?

Having killed or captured most of their leadership, frozen assets and
reduced OBL to video threats rather than actual attacks sounds like progress
to me.