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I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?
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I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume and the driver will fall out of the mounting hole.
Phil

"Randy Yates" wrote in message
...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?
--
% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of

tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
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I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume and the driver will fall out of the mounting hole.
Phil

"Randy Yates" wrote in message
...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?
--
% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of

tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
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I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume and the driver will fall out of the mounting hole.
Phil

"Randy Yates" wrote in message
...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?
--
% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of

tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr



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I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume and the driver will fall out of the mounting hole.
Phil

"Randy Yates" wrote in message
...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?
--
% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of

tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr





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"anybody-but-bush" writes:

I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume


Wrong. You will have eight times the original internal volume.
--
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%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and those who hesitate
%%% 919-577-9882 % got no one..."
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"anybody-but-bush" writes:

I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume


Wrong. You will have eight times the original internal volume.
--
% Randy Yates % "So now it's getting late,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and those who hesitate
%%% 919-577-9882 % got no one..."
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"anybody-but-bush" writes:

I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume


Wrong. You will have eight times the original internal volume.
--
% Randy Yates % "So now it's getting late,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and those who hesitate
%%% 919-577-9882 % got no one..."
%%%% % 'Waterfall', *Face The Music*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
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"anybody-but-bush" writes:

I can predict this. If you double the dimensions you will quadruple the
internal volume


Wrong. You will have eight times the original internal volume.
--
% Randy Yates % "So now it's getting late,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and those who hesitate
%%% 919-577-9882 % got no one..."
%%%% % 'Waterfall', *Face The Music*, ELO
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Randy Yates wrote in message ...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated. The rear chamber
on the driver provides a compliance loading, and you simply can't
double the linear dimensions, because that will result in a factor
of 8 increase in the acoustic compliance of the back chamber, and
that is probably NOT what you want to do. That compliance is set
by the requirements of the driver and the gorn properties, so has
to be scaled depending upon those factors.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.


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Randy Yates wrote in message ...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated. The rear chamber
on the driver provides a compliance loading, and you simply can't
double the linear dimensions, because that will result in a factor
of 8 increase in the acoustic compliance of the back chamber, and
that is probably NOT what you want to do. That compliance is set
by the requirements of the driver and the gorn properties, so has
to be scaled depending upon those factors.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.
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Dick Pierce
 
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Randy Yates wrote in message ...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated. The rear chamber
on the driver provides a compliance loading, and you simply can't
double the linear dimensions, because that will result in a factor
of 8 increase in the acoustic compliance of the back chamber, and
that is probably NOT what you want to do. That compliance is set
by the requirements of the driver and the gorn properties, so has
to be scaled depending upon those factors.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.
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Randy Yates wrote in message ...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated. The rear chamber
on the driver provides a compliance loading, and you simply can't
double the linear dimensions, because that will result in a factor
of 8 increase in the acoustic compliance of the back chamber, and
that is probably NOT what you want to do. That compliance is set
by the requirements of the driver and the gorn properties, so has
to be scaled depending upon those factors.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.
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Peter Larsen
 
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Randy Yates wrote:

I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.


Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.

% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr


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Randy Yates wrote:

I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.


Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.

% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr


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Randy Yates wrote:

I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.


Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.

% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr


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Randy Yates wrote:

I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.


Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.

% Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of tomorrow,
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your
%%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow."
%%%% % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO
http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr


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Dick Pierce wrote:

For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty
much as the first power of linear dimensions. So, if you
were to double the size of the horn in all dimensions,
then the low frequency cutoff would drop and octave


My understanding of this is that the lf cutoff will be the same, but the
lower octave will be linearized and/or better LF linearity be obtained
in free air.

but so would the high-frequency cutoff.


Indeed, all problems would move an octave downwards.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated.


Yes.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.


Thanks too!


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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Dick Pierce wrote:

For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty
much as the first power of linear dimensions. So, if you
were to double the size of the horn in all dimensions,
then the low frequency cutoff would drop and octave


My understanding of this is that the lf cutoff will be the same, but the
lower octave will be linearized and/or better LF linearity be obtained
in free air.

but so would the high-frequency cutoff.


Indeed, all problems would move an octave downwards.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated.


Yes.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.


Thanks too!


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
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* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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Dick Pierce wrote:

For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty
much as the first power of linear dimensions. So, if you
were to double the size of the horn in all dimensions,
then the low frequency cutoff would drop and octave


My understanding of this is that the lf cutoff will be the same, but the
lower octave will be linearized and/or better LF linearity be obtained
in free air.

but so would the high-frequency cutoff.


Indeed, all problems would move an octave downwards.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated.


Yes.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.


Thanks too!


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
*******************************************
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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Dick Pierce wrote:

For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty
much as the first power of linear dimensions. So, if you
were to double the size of the horn in all dimensions,
then the low frequency cutoff would drop and octave


My understanding of this is that the lf cutoff will be the same, but the
lower octave will be linearized and/or better LF linearity be obtained
in free air.

but so would the high-frequency cutoff.


Indeed, all problems would move an octave downwards.

However, from this point, it gets more complicated.


Yes.

You might find it of some use to check out Leach, M. "On the
Specification of Moving Coil Drivers for Low-Frequency Horn-
Loaded Loudspeakers," J. Audio Eng. Soc., 1979 Dec.


Thanks too!


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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"Dick Pierce" wrote in message
om...
Randy Yates wrote in message

...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.


Well yes, he did specify "same or comparable driver", but the effect is
similar.
Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then its not really twice
the size but 8 times the size!
I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though, you would need a very large
room for stereo :-)

TonyP.






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"Dick Pierce" wrote in message
om...
Randy Yates wrote in message

...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.


Well yes, he did specify "same or comparable driver", but the effect is
similar.
Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then its not really twice
the size but 8 times the size!
I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though, you would need a very large
room for stereo :-)

TonyP.






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"Dick Pierce" wrote in message
om...
Randy Yates wrote in message

...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.


Well yes, he did specify "same or comparable driver", but the effect is
similar.
Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then its not really twice
the size but 8 times the size!
I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though, you would need a very large
room for stereo :-)

TonyP.






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"Dick Pierce" wrote in message
om...
Randy Yates wrote in message

...
I've never taken the time to learn about Qts, Vas, or
the other abc's of loudspeaker design, so I'm going to
put this to the group in ignorance.

Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


For the horn itself, generally, the band limits go pretty much as the
first power of linear dimensions. So, if you were to double the size
of the horn in all dimensions, then the low frequency cutoff would
drop and octave, but so would the high-frequency cutoff. This assumes,
possibly incorrectly, that you're also doubling the size of the
driver as well.


Well yes, he did specify "same or comparable driver", but the effect is
similar.
Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then its not really twice
the size but 8 times the size!
I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though, you would need a very large
room for stereo :-)

TonyP.








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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
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Randy Yates wrote:
Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.


Isn't flare rate a dimension? He did specify all dimensions were doubled,
(admittedly a silly notion) and we are not dealing with a simple box here.

TonyP.


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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
Randy Yates wrote:
Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.


Isn't flare rate a dimension? He did specify all dimensions were doubled,
(admittedly a silly notion) and we are not dealing with a simple box here.

TonyP.


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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
Randy Yates wrote:
Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.


Isn't flare rate a dimension? He did specify all dimensions were doubled,
(admittedly a silly notion) and we are not dealing with a simple box here.

TonyP.


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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
Randy Yates wrote:
Is there an easy and reliable way to predict the performance of a
Klipschorn bass unit if all dimensions were simply doubled, assuming
the same or comparable driver? Specifically, how far would this
extend the low frequency response?


Not at all, flarerate matters. See the text that goes with the Duelund
horn on my site.


Isn't flare rate a dimension? He did specify all dimensions were doubled,
(admittedly a silly notion) and we are not dealing with a simple box here.

TonyP.


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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.

TonyP.



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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.

TonyP.



Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.

TonyP.



Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.

TonyP.



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TonyP wrote:

Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then
its not really twice the size but 8 times the size!


Indeed.

I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though,


It is the acoustic size it theoretically has from being a corner horn, I
think I still have that brochure from them .... real world corners may
be less perfect, but enclosing a horn in a living room always has it
"somewhat near" a corner. Generally and much simplified that is why
living room horns are somewhat different than stadium horns.

TonyP.



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TonyP wrote:

Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then
its not really twice the size but 8 times the size!


Indeed.

I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though,


It is the acoustic size it theoretically has from being a corner horn, I
think I still have that brochure from them .... real world corners may
be less perfect, but enclosing a horn in a living room always has it
"somewhat near" a corner. Generally and much simplified that is why
living room horns are somewhat different than stadium horns.

TonyP.



Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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*******************************************
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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TonyP wrote:

Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then
its not really twice the size but 8 times the size!


Indeed.

I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though,


It is the acoustic size it theoretically has from being a corner horn, I
think I still have that brochure from them .... real world corners may
be less perfect, but enclosing a horn in a living room always has it
"somewhat near" a corner. Generally and much simplified that is why
living room horns are somewhat different than stadium horns.

TonyP.



Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
*******************************************
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
*******************************************
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TonyP wrote:

Of course if you actually doubled all dimensions, then
its not really twice the size but 8 times the size!


Indeed.

I can't imagine a Klipshorn that big though,


It is the acoustic size it theoretically has from being a corner horn, I
think I still have that brochure from them .... real world corners may
be less perfect, but enclosing a horn in a living room always has it
"somewhat near" a corner. Generally and much simplified that is why
living room horns are somewhat different than stadium horns.

TonyP.



Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
*******************************************
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.


OK, it's a ratio, but given the vagueness of the original post, I took it to
mean a longer flare rate, not just a larger horn mouth.
Who knows what he really had in mind?

TonyP.


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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.


OK, it's a ratio, but given the vagueness of the original post, I took it to
mean a longer flare rate, not just a larger horn mouth.
Who knows what he really had in mind?

TonyP.


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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
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TonyP wrote:

Isn't flare rate a dimension?


No.


OK, it's a ratio, but given the vagueness of the original post, I took it to
mean a longer flare rate, not just a larger horn mouth.
Who knows what he really had in mind?

TonyP.


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