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Deepsky had contacted me, since he claims to have constructed Love Me Do stereo, and Winchester Cathedral stereo renditions. This rendition separates the vocal work.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...myloving-s.mp3

Even in this version, I hear Ringo's audio distorted drumming. Who did it, probably the dude that just passed. Should have stuck with Comedy.

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On 16/03/2016 5:22 a.m., JackA wrote:
Deepsky had contacted me, since he claims to have constructed Love Me Do stereo, and Winchester Cathedral stereo renditions. This rendition separates the vocal work.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...myloving-s.mp3

Even in this version, I hear Ringo's audio distorted drumming. Who did it, probably the dude that just passed. Should have stuck with Comedy.

Jack


You may notice by the lack of posts in this newsgroup over the last 4
days, and prior general decline, that you have finally succeeded in your
mission to destroy it.

Thanks and goodbye.

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On 16/03/2016 5:22 a.m., JackA wrote:
Deepsky had contacted me, since he claims to have constructed Love Me Do
stereo, and Winchester Cathedral stereo renditions. This rendition
separates the vocal work.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...myloving-s.mp3

Even in this version, I hear Ringo's audio distorted drumming. Who did it,
probably the dude that just passed. Should have stuck with Comedy.

Jack


You may notice by the lack of posts in this newsgroup over the last 4
days, and prior general decline, that you have finally succeeded in your
mission to destroy it.

Thanks and goodbye.

geoff




Geoff, I just don't get that.

We all know Jack is very annoying sometimes, and quite probably simply a
Troll.

So what, you can choose to ignore him by not reading his posts.
Why would you get mad at him and punish yourself instead?

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just plain
fantasy.

There has been increasingly little traffic here for a long time, other media
has taken over.


I engage with him for sport, as there is little else to do here.
That's probably just me being a Troll too, then.
Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the process,
and had a good laugh at times.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't be doing
it.



I won't be responding to his last bait though. (George Martin being crap
an' all)
That's just far too obvious.


Well, he might have been a bit crap in the early days, but he got a lot
better.


Gareth.





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On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
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But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.
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"Nil" wrote in message ...

On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.







There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter Button in many
cases.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff you know
you will not like.


Why are you doing this?




Gareth.







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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 5:19:13 PM UTC-4, gareth magennis wrote:
"Nil" wrote in message ...

On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.







There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter Button in many
cases.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff you know
you will not like.


Why are you doing this?


In spite? Oh, look at the other "participants" here, trashing whatever "audio" I post. Real nice crew, and THEY blame ME for destroying usenet. The only one I admire here, initially, was Mark. When everyone else was doing their Isis imitation to kill, Mark actually complimented me in his own way. Now, sadly, I made Mark's kill-filter for openly expressing my beliefs, even though "politically incorrect", these days.

As for Nil, he doesn't like me questioning ANYTHING about The Beatles. To him, George Martin told the absolute truth.

Anyway, I came across a favorite song from 1968. I know I already have it on CD, but to find it is a pain. I downloaded and paid for an .MP3. Oddly, the audio (stereo) has changed. I'm sending it out to get other opinions, a very well done remake or an entire remix. The American Breed, Bend Me, Shape Me. The initial stereo mix was a bit ill sounding.

Jack



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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 5:19:13 PM UTC-4, gareth magennis wrote:
"Nil" wrote in message ...

On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.







There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter Button in many
cases.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff you know
you will not like.


Why are you doing this?




Gareth.


And, Gareth, I do not make a lot of friends, but enemies for enhancing audio. It, in my mind, makes them jealous, so I lose friendships, as they feel I'm showing off. Even during CD reviews, one privately contacted me, and begins trashing me in e-mail. But, after chatting and getting to know each other, even he recently said, I paraphrase, "I'd rather have you remaster it, than that Joe."

How I operate: I first look at a waveform, that tells me a good story. Then, before starting, I open WinAmp to see what real-time frequency equalization I should add (easier to add than subtract). If it has some peaks that limit amplitude too much, I use Goldwave's Light Dynamic boost, that helps even things out. After I apply frequency correction, I give it a listen as the 160kbps MP3 I plan to post. I keep iterating (sometimes LOTS, an entire evening plus) until I am satisfied. Sometimes, I trim peaks. I always compare the lower bitrate MP3 to the original higher bit rate source MP3 to make sure I didn't lose anything.

Yet, they claim I don't tell them what I do.

And, yes, I can tolerate people like Geoff (and others) who tease me, just because it was I who discovered the 3kHz secret to music, thanks to Neil Young's PONO thing.

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:59 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 16/03/2016 5:22 a.m., JackA wrote:
Deepsky had contacted me, since he claims to have constructed Love Me Do stereo, and Winchester Cathedral stereo renditions. This rendition separates the vocal work.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...myloving-s.mp3

Even in this version, I hear Ringo's audio distorted drumming. Who did it, probably the dude that just passed. Should have stuck with Comedy.

Jack


You may notice by the lack of posts in this newsgroup over the last 4
days, and prior general decline, that you have finally succeeded in your
mission to destroy it.

Thanks and goodbye.


As you couch potatoes demand others post interesting topics. Do not blame me for usenet deaths.

And thanks for the 4 day lack of posts notice, I thought it was Google!!

Jack

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 5:08:32 PM UTC-4, Nil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.


I am so sorry your country does not believe in the Freedom of Speech.
Let's see, so far, that male German leader had a problem with them, and so does Russia. And YOU wonder why many, many claim US major media fails to spew the truth, but propaganda.

And I'm not to believe Bernie Sanders was not behind the riot at Donald Trump's Chicago appearance. Bernie Sanders PROMOTES racism. Unlike him, I don't have to pay for my black friends.

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 5:00:13 PM UTC-4, gareth magennis wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message
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On 16/03/2016 5:22 a.m., JackA wrote:
Deepsky had contacted me, since he claims to have constructed Love Me Do
stereo, and Winchester Cathedral stereo renditions. This rendition
separates the vocal work.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...myloving-s.mp3

Even in this version, I hear Ringo's audio distorted drumming. Who did it,
probably the dude that just passed. Should have stuck with Comedy.

Jack


You may notice by the lack of posts in this newsgroup over the last 4
days, and prior general decline, that you have finally succeeded in your
mission to destroy it.

Thanks and goodbye.

geoff




Geoff, I just don't get that.

We all know Jack is very annoying sometimes, and quite probably simply a
Troll.

So what, you can choose to ignore him by not reading his posts.
Why would you get mad at him and punish yourself instead?

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just plain
fantasy.

There has been increasingly little traffic here for a long time, other media
has taken over.


I engage with him for sport, as there is little else to do here.
That's probably just me being a Troll too, then.
Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the process,
and had a good laugh at times.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't be doing
it.



I won't be responding to his last bait though. (George Martin being crap
an' all)
That's just far too obvious.


Why? It was George Martin who was spewing competition for his "boys" (not men, in George's mind) at a Billy J. Kramer recording. I'll post it, if you wish. Why I collect that studio talk.
Many before George could produce fine stereo, but George apparently felt lopsided stereo was the key to success. In reality, it gave him the condition to hide or mask some of Ringo's drumming, since even George claimed Ringo was "adequate", nothing great, that is.

Why I even question that UK Geoff engineer, not OUR Geoff.

Jack


Well, he might have been a bit crap in the early days, but he got a lot
better.


Gareth.




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Gareth Magennis wrote:


"Nil" wrote in message ...

On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.







There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter Button in many
cases.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff you know
you will not like.


Why are you doing this?

Gareth.


I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it directly
affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might turn against a
group of people I belong to. My horror is not related to my self concern,
i.e., to selfishness. I believe all people are connected on many levels,
from being apart of the same physical-causal-chain to being connected on a
spiritual level (which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by
advanced physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just the reason
for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go farther: what you're
doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the holocaust is sending him,
(and any other likeminded readers, potential or current,) a signal that he
is, (and they are), still socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an
accessory to the crime!

--
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On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
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There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter
Button in many cases.


Then there is feeding trolls by giving them the attention they
desperately crave. You may think it's amusing for yourself, but it
affects everybody else negatively.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff
you know you will not like.

Why are you doing this?


I thought it was obvious, but I guess not, so I'll spell it out: I'm
not reading it - I only see his poison when its repeated by others like
you.

It's like some creep comes into the room and starts letting out loud,
noxious farts... and you go and close all the windows while giggling.
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On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter
Button in many cases.


Then there is feeding trolls by giving them the attention they
desperately crave. You may think it's amusing for yourself, but it
affects everybody else negatively.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff
you know you will not like.

Why are you doing this?


I thought it was obvious, but I guess not, so I'll spell it out: I'm
not reading it - I only see his poison when its repeated by others like
you.

It's like some creep comes into the room and starts letting out loud,
noxious farts... and you go and close all the windows while giggling.


+1

The killfile is a wonderful thing.

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:30:06 PM UTC-4, Matt Faunce wrote:
Gareth Magennis wrote:


"Nil" wrote in message ....

On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.







There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter Button in many
cases.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff you know
you will not like.


Why are you doing this?

Gareth.


I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it directly
affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might turn against a
group of people I belong to. My horror is not related to my self concern,
i.e., to selfishness. I believe all people are connected on many levels,
from being apart of the same physical-causal-chain to being connected on a
spiritual level (which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by
advanced physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just the reason
for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go farther: what you're
doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the holocaust is sending him,
(and any other likeminded readers, potential or current,) a signal that he
is, (and they are), still socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an
accessory to the crime!

--
Matt


Evil, Matt? Like Gov. funded CIA testing US soldiers (and others) with mind altering drugs, and to YOU, that is "acceptable" in America? If I have to give any credit to Clinton (male rendition) it was for to APOLOGIZING to the American public for these acts of cruelty.

Heck, others, not I, are blaming Israel for 9-11 attack. After all, Rothschild bankers got out quickly before D-day, even if it cost them thousands for breaking lease.

I'm far from a bible thumper, my own beliefs are mine. I see Christianity being crushed in front of my face in America. I look at how Israel treats Palestinians, like dirt. I see reporter being yelled at, "Go back to your Jesus!!". And I question why nobody questions Bernie Sanders about this act of cruelty in Israel.

Some say there was no "holocaust", lacks validated proof. I do know Russia stepped in a kept US from attacking Palestine.

Heck, though tough to find, even VP Biden has, in a round about way, has instructed that particular religion to get out of America.

Have a mind of your own, not to be brainwashed by your real enemies.

Thank you.

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I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it
directly affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might
turn against a group of people I belong to. My horror is not
related to my self concern, i.e., to selfishness. I believe all
people are connected on many levels, from being apart of the same
physical-causal-chain to being connected on a spiritual level
(which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by advanced
physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just
the reason for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go
farther: what you're doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the
holocaust is sending him, (and any other likeminded readers,
potential or current,) a signal that he is, (and they are), still
socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an accessory to the
crime!


That's similar to how I see it. But to make it even more basic, as Ben
Franklin said, "He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas".
In other words, by consorting with evil you're likely to become tainted
even if you think you won't be. In this case, engaging an self-
acknowledged Nazi sympathizer casts a pall over this group and everyone
who's exposed to it. If you think you're immune, you're wrong. If you
choose to get close to evil because it's "amusing", that's your choice,
but I don't think it's fair to drag the people around you down, too.

On the other hand, I guess, at least we can all see what kind of
disease-carrying insect is among us.


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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 9:06:47 PM UTC-4, Nil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2016, Matt Faunce wrote in
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I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it
directly affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might
turn against a group of people I belong to. My horror is not
related to my self concern, i.e., to selfishness. I believe all
people are connected on many levels, from being apart of the same
physical-causal-chain to being connected on a spiritual level
(which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by advanced
physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just
the reason for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go
farther: what you're doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the
holocaust is sending him, (and any other likeminded readers,
potential or current,) a signal that he is, (and they are), still
socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an accessory to the
crime!


That's similar to how I see it. But to make it even more basic, as Ben
Franklin said, "He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas".
In other words, by consorting with evil you're likely to become tainted
even if you think you won't be. In this case, engaging an self-
acknowledged Nazi sympathizer casts a pall over this group and everyone
who's exposed to it. If you think you're immune, you're wrong. If you
choose to get close to evil because it's "amusing", that's your choice,
but I don't think it's fair to drag the people around you down, too.

On the other hand, I guess, at least we can all see what kind of
disease-carrying insect is among us.


If you claim I'm a NAZI, then go search the internet and find actual Jews writing bad about other Jews and their actions. It is not tough at all, if you have the time and willpower.

Remember, you can kill humans by force with and/or without weapons. But you can silently kill by financially killing off the opposition.

Thank you.

Jack
p.s. No applause or MONEY needed for the "group" participation, Geoff.

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 9:06:47 PM UTC-4, Nil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2016, Matt Faunce wrote in
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I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it
directly affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might
turn against a group of people I belong to. My horror is not
related to my self concern, i.e., to selfishness. I believe all
people are connected on many levels, from being apart of the same
physical-causal-chain to being connected on a spiritual level
(which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by advanced
physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just
the reason for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go
farther: what you're doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the
holocaust is sending him, (and any other likeminded readers,
potential or current,) a signal that he is, (and they are), still
socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an accessory to the
crime!


That's similar to how I see it. But to make it even more basic, as Ben
Franklin said, "He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas".
In other words, by consorting with evil you're likely to become tainted
even if you think you won't be. In this case, engaging an self-
acknowledged Nazi sympathizer casts a pall over this group and everyone
who's exposed to it. If you think you're immune, you're wrong. If you
choose to get close to evil because it's "amusing", that's your choice,
but I don't think it's fair to drag the people around you down, too.

On the other hand, I guess, at least we can all see what kind of
disease-carrying insect is among us.


To Nil, I don't like to see innocent people suffer, being starved to death or harmed. And, yes, that includes Germans, both past and current.

And if I had one and only one leader of a country to admire, it would be Vladamir Putin. Maybe you can call me a KGB lover, too.

Jack
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Nil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2016, Matt Faunce wrote in
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I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it
directly affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might
turn against a group of people I belong to. My horror is not
related to my self concern, i.e., to selfishness. I believe all
people are connected on many levels, from being apart of the same
physical-causal-chain to being connected on a spiritual level
(which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by advanced
physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just
the reason for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go
farther: what you're doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the
holocaust is sending him, (and any other likeminded readers,
potential or current,) a signal that he is, (and they are), still
socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an accessory to the
crime!


That's similar to how I see it. But to make it even more basic, as Ben
Franklin said, "He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas".
In other words, by consorting with evil you're likely to become tainted
even if you think you won't be. In this case, engaging an self-
acknowledged Nazi sympathizer casts a pall over this group and everyone
who's exposed to it. If you think you're immune, you're wrong. If you
choose to get close to evil because it's "amusing", that's your choice,
but I don't think it's fair to drag the people around you down, too.

On the other hand, I guess, at least we can all see what kind of
disease-carrying insect is among us.


Right, the problem is multifaceted. Including the fact that hate is an
infectious disease.

Gareth, never mind kill-filing, even if you invited your Nazi friend to a
conversation in a private chat, it would be a concern for every other
morally conscious person: we'd worry not only that the virus is getting
stronger (by the signals you're sending him, as I mentioned earlier), but
that the infection is spreading, in you. Notice that your first reaction
was an attempt to appeal to our sense of selfishness.

--
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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 10:01:03 PM UTC-4, Matt Faunce wrote:
Nil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2016, Matt Faunce wrote in
rec.audio.pro:

I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it
directly affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might
turn against a group of people I belong to. My horror is not
related to my self concern, i.e., to selfishness. I believe all
people are connected on many levels, from being apart of the same
physical-causal-chain to being connected on a spiritual level
(which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by advanced
physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just
the reason for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go
farther: what you're doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the
holocaust is sending him, (and any other likeminded readers,
potential or current,) a signal that he is, (and they are), still
socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an accessory to the
crime!


That's similar to how I see it. But to make it even more basic, as Ben
Franklin said, "He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas".
In other words, by consorting with evil you're likely to become tainted
even if you think you won't be. In this case, engaging an self-
acknowledged Nazi sympathizer casts a pall over this group and everyone
who's exposed to it. If you think you're immune, you're wrong. If you
choose to get close to evil because it's "amusing", that's your choice,
but I don't think it's fair to drag the people around you down, too.

On the other hand, I guess, at least we can all see what kind of
disease-carrying insect is among us.


Right, the problem is multifaceted. Including the fact that hate is an
infectious disease.

Gareth, never mind kill-filing, even if you invited your Nazi friend to a
conversation in a private chat, it would be a concern for every other
morally conscious person: we'd worry not only that the virus is getting
stronger (by the signals you're sending him, as I mentioned earlier), but
that the infection is spreading, in you. Notice that your first reaction
was an attempt to appeal to our sense of selfishness.

--
Matt


Dear Matt,

If you wish to attack someone, then confront me, unless you lack the courage to.
However, some [usenet] people are best to be equipped, like a horse, to be shielded from the real world, with blinders on.

Thank You.

Jack
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Matt Faunce wrote:

Gareth, never mind kill-filing, even if you invited your Nazi friend to a
conversation in a private chat, it would be a concern for every other
morally conscious person: we'd worry not only that the virus is getting
stronger (by the signals you're sending him, as I mentioned earlier), but
that the infection is spreading, in you. Notice that your first reaction
was an attempt to appeal to our sense of selfishness.


The thing is, there are groups out there that are intended for these
discussions. This is an audio group, it's for discussion of audio.

From my perspective, what someone does with the rest of their life is not
my worry here. This is an audio group. My complaint with Jack is merely
that he has no actual understanding of audio or what goes on in the studio
and he has no intention of learning anything about it. If he's a Nazi,
that's his problem as long as he doesn't carry it in here.

That said, many years ago when I was a poor starving intern at a studio in
Atlanta, I cut a neo-Nazi single. I was cutting 20 sides a day at the time
so I don't really remember it except that one side had a song called Zyklon-B
and the other side had a song that went "The Jews destroy our nation in a
thousand different ways. They ruin our society in league with the gays."
At the time I just kind of shook my head and thought that with music like
this, the rest of us didn't have very much to worry about.
--scott
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In article:

JackA says...

Everyone here is primarily concerned with current recordings,
not decades past recordings.

Try one of these.

rec.music
rec.music.a-cappella
rec.music.afro-_atin
rec.music.afro-latin
rec.music.afro.latin
rec.music.alternative
rec.music.ambient
rec.music.arabic
rec.music.artis
rec.music.artists
rec.music.asian
rec.music.barbershop
rec.music.beach-boys
rec.music.beatles
rec.music.blue-note
rec.music.bluenote
rec.music.bluenote.blues
rec.music.brazilian
rec.music.cd
rec.music.cd.marketplace
rec.music.celtic
rec.music.christian
rec.music.classical
rec.music.collecting
rec.music.college
rec.music.compose
rec.music.country
rec.music.dementia
rec.music.dylan
rec.music.early
rec.music.experimental
rec.music.filipino
rec.music.filk
rec.music.folk
rec.music.folk.tablature
rec.music.funky
rec.music.gaffa
rec.music.gdead
rec.music.guitar
rec.music.hip-hop
rec.music.in
rec.music.indian
rec.music.industrial
rec.music.info
rec.music.iranian
rec.music.jazz
rec.music.king-crimson
rec.music.m
rec.music.maker
rec.music.makers
rec.music.market
rec.music.marketplace
rec.music.meow
rec.music.misc
rec.music.movies
rec.music.neil-young
rec.music.newage
rec.music.opera
rec.music.phish
rec.music.phish.tickets
rec.music.progressive
rec.music.promotional
rec.music.ragtime
rec.music.reggae
rec.music.rem
rec.music.reviews
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.195
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.196
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.197
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1970s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1980s
rec.music.rock.pop.r+b.1970s
rec.music.rush
rec.music.synth
rec.music.techno
rec.music.theory
rec.music.thewell
rec.music.tori-amos
rec.music.video
rec.music.white-power
rec.musical.classical



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On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 11:03:09 AM UTC-4, UnsteadyKen wrote:
In article:

JackA says...

Everyone here is primarily concerned with current recordings,
not decades past recordings.

Try one of these.

rec.music
rec.music.a-cappella
rec.music.afro-_atin
rec.music.afro-latin
rec.music.afro.latin
rec.music.alternative
rec.music.ambient
rec.music.arabic
rec.music.artis
rec.music.artists
rec.music.asian
rec.music.barbershop
rec.music.beach-boys
rec.music.beatles
rec.music.blue-note
rec.music.bluenote
rec.music.bluenote.blues
rec.music.brazilian
rec.music.cd
rec.music.cd.marketplace
rec.music.celtic
rec.music.christian
rec.music.classical
rec.music.collecting
rec.music.college
rec.music.compose
rec.music.country
rec.music.dementia
rec.music.dylan
rec.music.early
rec.music.experimental
rec.music.filipino
rec.music.filk
rec.music.folk
rec.music.folk.tablature
rec.music.funky
rec.music.gaffa
rec.music.gdead
rec.music.guitar
rec.music.hip-hop
rec.music.in
rec.music.indian
rec.music.industrial
rec.music.info
rec.music.iranian
rec.music.jazz
rec.music.king-crimson
rec.music.m
rec.music.maker
rec.music.makers
rec.music.market
rec.music.marketplace
rec.music.meow
rec.music.misc
rec.music.movies
rec.music.neil-young
rec.music.newage
rec.music.opera
rec.music.phish
rec.music.phish.tickets
rec.music.progressive
rec.music.promotional
rec.music.ragtime
rec.music.reggae
rec.music.rem
rec.music.reviews
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.195
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.196
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.197
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1970s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1980s
rec.music.rock.pop.r+b.1970s
rec.music.rush
rec.music.synth
rec.music.techno
rec.music.theory
rec.music.thewell
rec.music.tori-amos
rec.music.video
rec.music.white-power
rec.musical.classical



--
Ken O'Meara


Sadly, it LOOKS like Google doesn't carry all these groups!!

Actually, at AES, one old-hand was chatting about Stereo mixing in the old days. But, to be part of that costs MONEY!! Thought the idea of .org was non profit!!??

http://www.aes.org/

Thank you away.

Jack
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In article:

JackA says...

Sadly, it LOOKS like Google doesn't carry all these groups!!

Actually, at AES, one old-hand was chatting about Stereo
mixing in the old days. But, to be part of that costs
MONEY!! Thought the idea of .org was non profit!!??


Set up a free account with a news service provider such as Eternal
September.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

or

Aioe.

http://news.aioe.org/

Install a free Usenet News Reader such as Microplanet Gravity.

http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

Configure the newsreader with the account details provided by the
service provider.

Go on-line, 50,000 News Groups await. Fill yer boots.



--
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"Matt Faunce" wrote in message ...

Gareth Magennis wrote:


"Nil" wrote in message ...

On 15 Mar 2016, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote in rec.audio.pro:

But to suggest he has wilfully destroyed this Usegroup is just
plain fantasy.


He has done it before to other newsgroups. He's doing it again here -
with assistance.

Though I have leaned a few things I wouldn't have otherwise in the
process, and had a good laugh at times.


Your "good laugh" has been at the expense of this group.

If I thought I was clogging up this board by doing this I wouldn't
be doing it.


It's not "clogging up", it's promoting the toxic stink of ignorance,
racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and bigotry.







There is Free Speech, there is Trolling, there is the Filter Button in
many
cases.

Then there is self imposed Anger from deliberately reading stuff you know
you will not like.


Why are you doing this?

Gareth.


I strongly agree with Nil.

Gareth, the holocaust doesn't horrify me merely because of how it directly
affects me, or because I'm afraid the same forces might turn against a
group of people I belong to. My horror is not related to my self concern,
i.e., to selfishness. I believe all people are connected on many levels,
from being apart of the same physical-causal-chain to being connected on a
spiritual level (which, for all I know, may be potentially explainable by
advanced physical-psychological means). I also believe that inaction in the
face of such evil is akin to the evil itself. So far that's just the reason
for my problem with your response to Nil. But you go farther: what you're
doing by hobnobbing with an apologist for the holocaust is sending him,
(and any other likeminded readers, potential or current,) a signal that he
is, (and they are), still socially accepted. So, as I see it, you're an
accessory to the crime!

--
Matt



Matt,
I haven't come across Jack on any other Newsgroup, and he has not mentioned
anything to do with Nazism on this particular one as far as I have seen.

He has only ever mentioned audio related subjects, some of which I have
replied to.

How you have jumped to the conclusion that I am an accessory to any sort of
crime whatsoever is beyond me.


I will not be feeding you Trolls any more, but if Jack makes a post to do
with audio that I quite fancy retorting to, I shall do it, safe in the
knowledge that in doing so I am in no way condoning the mass slaughter of
millions of people.



Gareth.

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On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 3:13:27 PM UTC-4, UnsteadyKen wrote:
In article:

JackA says...

Sadly, it LOOKS like Google doesn't carry all these groups!!

Actually, at AES, one old-hand was chatting about Stereo
mixing in the old days. But, to be part of that costs
MONEY!! Thought the idea of .org was non profit!!??


Set up a free account with a news service provider such as Eternal
September.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

or

Aioe.

http://news.aioe.org/

Install a free Usenet News Reader such as Microplanet Gravity.

http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

Configure the newsreader with the account details provided by the
service provider.

Go on-line, 50,000 News Groups await. Fill yer boots.



--
Ken O'Meara


Thank you.

Had accounts with SuperNews and EasyNews. Liked using XNews reader.
Usenet has been gutted, not much left to it, doubt much binaries even exist, still lots of spam.

Jack
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