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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. -- S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:18:17 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote: "=(8888)=" wrote in message .. . "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. You mean like flute amplifiers? |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:18:17 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote: "=(8888)=" wrote in message .. . "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. You mean like flute amplifiers? |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:18:17 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote: "=(8888)=" wrote in message .. . "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. You mean like flute amplifiers? |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:18:17 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote: "=(8888)=" wrote in message .. . "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. You mean like flute amplifiers? |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "=(8888)=" wrote in message ... "Sander deWaal" emitted : I still have a Sony amp from 1975, but they used VFETS, not MOSFET's. If you overlook the device construction difference, then I think Sony were the first to use high power FET's in a power amp. Sony invented the VFET, the Hitachi power MosFET's came later. IIRC, Yamaha had an amp around that time (B1 or B2?) with 2SK77 MOSFETS. A giant beast, and those transistors looked like 2N3055s on steroids (twice the size of a TO-3) . Cool! What is the general consensus for the sound of MOSFET amps? I had a Session guitar amp that employed MOSFETs, was very clean but clinical sounding vs tube amps. Like home hi fi amps guitar amps made with tubes generate Euphonic distortion, that is distortion that pleases the ear, or at least the person playing a guitar through one. Tube amps are preferred by many if not most guitar players because they distort in a way that allows them another way to create. MOSFET's don't distort audibly unless over driven (or badly designed or broken). For other instruments MOSFET would be the more likely choice. Generally, tube guitar amp distortion is different from that of an audio tube amp. It is purposefully accentuated. Which is the point I was making. They do things with distortion that SS amps don't and therefore are useful in helping the guitarist express himself. Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! |
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