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Winter 2010 NAMM Show Report
http://tinyurl.com/MikeRivers-WinterNAMM2010
Enjoy. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson |
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Winter 2010 NAMM Show Report
Mike Rivers wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/MikeRivers-WinterNAMM2010 Enjoy. Thank you, Mike. -- ha shut up and play your guitar http://hankalrich.com/ http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/hsadharma |
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Winter 2010 NAMM Show Report
Mike Rivers wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/MikeRivers-WinterNAMM2010 Enjoy. You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! Is this exciting, or am I just lazy ? geoff |
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Thanks Hank! Very informative.
Neil R "geoff" wrote in message ... Mike Rivers wrote: http://tinyurl.com/MikeRivers-WinterNAMM2010 Enjoy. You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! Is this exciting, or am I just lazy ? geoff |
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geoff wrote:
You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! Yeah, I was just thinking about that over dinner tonight. Trouble is that they didn't have any literature to hand out, so I didn't have anything to jog my memory. I should probably add it because I did see it and was interested in it. I wasn't all that impressed, though. My sense was that in the poly mode, it would show you which strings were out of tune (or which ones were in tune so you didn't need to tune those) but that it in that mode it was no faster tuning than tuning one string at a time. You still can only turn one tuning peg at a time so there's really no point in strumming across all of the strings when you can tune more accurately by picking just one. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson |
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Mike Rivers wrote: geoff wrote: You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! Yeah, I was just thinking about that over dinner tonight. Trouble is that they didn't have any literature to hand out, so I didn't have anything to jog my memory. I should probably add it because I did see it and was interested in it. I wasn't all that impressed, though. My sense was that in the poly mode, it would show you which strings were out of tune (or which ones were in tune so you didn't need to tune those) but that it in that mode it was no faster tuning than tuning one string at a time. You still can only turn one tuning peg at a time so there's really no point in strumming across all of the strings when you can tune more accurately by picking just one. I tried it at NAMM, and it worked fine. But like you, I don't really see the point. |
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Jenn wrote:
In article , Mike Rivers wrote: geoff wrote: You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! Yeah, I was just thinking about that over dinner tonight. Trouble is that they didn't have any literature to hand out, so I didn't have anything to jog my memory. I should probably add it because I did see it and was interested in it. I wasn't all that impressed, though. My sense was that in the poly mode, it would show you which strings were out of tune (or which ones were in tune so you didn't need to tune those) but that it in that mode it was no faster tuning than tuning one string at a time. You still can only turn one tuning peg at a time so there's really no point in strumming across all of the strings when you can tune more accurately by picking just one. I tried it at NAMM, and it worked fine. But like you, I don't really see the point. Strum open, then only pluck/tune what you need to - as I said, "lazy" ;-) Or a studio time-saver / quick confidence booster (5 seconds to check tuning instead of an interuption and 2 minutes for tone-deaf guitarists). Still kinda nifty. geoff |
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On Jan 26, 6:55*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/MikeRivers-WinterNAMM2010 Enjoy. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson Fanned fret or multi-scale guitars are an old concept but the patent is held by Ralph Novak, an SF Bay Area Luthier: http://www.novaxguitars.com/ He has built some wild guitars over the years, and many luthiers have taken the concept in interesting directions. Fran |
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Winter 2010 NAMM Show Report
geoff wrote: You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! OK, I've updated it Here's what I added (so don't bother to download the whole thing again: t.c. electronic introduced the world’s first polyphonic guitar/bass/chromatic tuner. Its trick is that you can strum across all the strings and the display shows which string is out of tune and in which direction. It’s a cool idea and great for a quick tuning check, but with essentially a go/no-go display in the polyphonic mode (a sharp, OK, and flat LED for each string), I found tuning in the poly mode to be a bit fiddly. Once I knew which string was out of tune, I preferred the more traditional note-and-needle display mode, which also offers a “strobe” mode that gives a sense of how far off tune the string is. The demo units on display had solid body electric guitars plugged in. While I had little hope for any sort of effective use acoustically on the noisy show floor, I didn’t see a built-in microphone, nor is one mentioned in any of the literature. I neglected to ask, but I assume that this is a tool for plugged-in players. The t.c. polyphonic tuner may be amazing new technology, but unless it gets easier after spending some time to get the hang of it, I don’t really see that it makes tuning any easier or quicker. http://www.tcelectronic.com/polytune.asp -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
unless it gets easier after spending some time to get the hang of it, I dont really see that it makes tuning any easier or quicker. http://www.tcelectronic.com/polytune.asp Well, I don't agree with t.c. electronics when they say it is "an invaluable tool". However, for live playing, I think I could use it *slightly* more effectively than the tuners I use now, because I have an electric with a locking tremolo bridge. I tune using the fine tuners on the bridge, and if I know how far off a string is, and in which direction, I can usually bring it in tune with a quick turn of a fine tuner. The thing is, this is only useful for making tiny adjustments, such as a few cents. In other words, not enough to matter. It would be a confidence booster to me, showing me that I'm in tune, and little more. A great toy for nuts like me who like to keep every string in tune to within a cent or so at all times (and pretend we can tell the difference . A problem with this design is that by displaying "all six" strings at once, it fails to support 7-string guitars! Jay Ts -- To contact me, use this web page: http://www.jayts.com/contact.php |
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Jay Ts wrote:
A problem with this design is that by displaying "all six" strings at once, it fails to support 7-string guitars! or 5-string banjos -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson |
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Mike Rivers wrote: Jay Ts wrote: A problem with this design is that by displaying "all six" strings at once, it fails to support 7-string guitars! or 5-string banjos Does it? Why wouldn't it do a 5 string instrument if it will do 4 string bass? |
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Jenn wrote:
Why wouldn't it do a 5 string instrument if it will do 4 string bass? As I understand it, you can program it for any off-brand tuning you want, but I didn't look into how you do that or how you select the tuning if you have more than one. I probably know 30 banjo tunings. I tried setting up a few with the Peterson StroboSoft and it was more trouble than it was worth. I expect that for gDGBD it wouldn't care if it was a banjo or guitar with a missing string, but it would need some help for others, even "standard C" with the low D tuned to C. Also, a lot of old time players tune their banjos two frets high so they can play in easy keys when the fiddle plays in easy keys. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:09:59 -0500, Mike Rivers wrote:
geoff wrote: You missed the TC Electronics Polytune ! OK, I've updated it Here's what I added (so don't bother to download the whole thing again: Call me when they figure out how to electronically tune all the pipes on a bagpipe simultaneously !!! -- 1/27/2010 1:55:33 PM |
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Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
Call me when they figure out how to electronically tune all the pipes on a bagpipe simultaneously !!! You mean you've never seen electronic bagpipes? There really is such a thing, and it even looks like a bagpipe. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:40:48 -0500, Mike Rivers wrote:
Moshe Goldfarb wrote: Call me when they figure out how to electronically tune all the pipes on a bagpipe simultaneously !!! You mean you've never seen electronic bagpipes? There really is such a thing, and it even looks like a bagpipe. Holy crap!!! My ears are ringing already!! I need to get out more often! Hahaha! (no offense to any pipers we might have here)! -- 1/27/2010 2:45:10 PM |
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Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:40:48 -0500, Mike Rivers wrote: Moshe Goldfarb wrote: Call me when they figure out how to electronically tune all the pipes on a bagpipe simultaneously !!! You mean you've never seen electronic bagpipes? There really is such a thing, and it even looks like a bagpipe. Holy crap!!! My ears are ringing already!! That's the thing about the electric bagpipe. Most electric versions of instruments (like the guitar and bass) are designed to play louder than the acoustic versions. The electric bagpipe exists to play softer. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Jay Ts wrote:
A problem with this design is that by displaying "all six" strings at once, it fails to support 7-string guitars! Yes, but to compensate it instead additionaly covers 5,4,3,2, and 1-string instruments ! geoff |
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Winter 2010 NAMM Show Report
Terrific job as always, Mike. Well done!
--MFW |
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