[Art Landy]

I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

[Steven Sullivan]

Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.




how much d'ya want to spend?

http://www.rivesaudio.com/services/servframe.html

[Kalman Rubinson]

On 17 Jul 2006 23:16:10 GMT, "Art Landy" wrote:

I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

www.rivesaudio.com

Kal

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Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

There are two kinds of people who do this wort of
work:

1. Professional acoustical engineers and firms. They have the
tools, the experience, the knowledge and the resources to
do it right. They can demand and can easily get quite high fees
(several hundreds of dollars per hour) for their work, and they
generally earn it. In all likelihood, their recommendations will
take the form of architectural and/or structural changes, which
the way it should be done.

2. "High-end" hi-fi specialist who, for the most part do NOT
have the experience, the knowledge and the resources
to do it right. But they do have all sorts of fancy solutions.
They can demand and occasionally can get quite high fees
for their work, and they generally do not earn it. In all
likelihood,
their recommendation will take the form of electrominc solutions,
tweaks and other semi-mysterious things of at best dubious
value.

Check your local yellow pages under "acoustical consultants"
for the first type. The second type have a way of finding you.

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Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.


I would highly recomend talking to your speaker manufacturer. They
above all should know what is ideal for their product.


Scott

[Robert Peirce]

In article ,
"Art Landy" wrote:

I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

I think you are correct. If I recall correctly, the RPG people are in
MD, but I don't remember exactly where.

So far I have been able to get everything I want with the proper speaker
placement. I am sure it would be even better with the proper damping,
defusing and so on. I haven't been willing to spend the money.

I have a purpose built room where the surfaces are non-parallel and the
ratio of H to W to L is on the order of 5/8. I used RPG's room
optimization software to calculate locations for my speakers and found
they were already within a couple of inches of where they needed to be.
Since I have planar speakers and listen at many places around the room,
I didn't find that the small change really mattered. OTOH, if I only
sat in one position to listen, it might. Then, other room treatments
would become more important.

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Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Why not do it yourself;

http://www.cardas.com/content.php?ar...g =Room+Setup

CD

[Kalman Rubinson]

On 19 Jul 2006 23:45:01 GMT, wrote:

Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Why not do it yourself;

http://www.cardas.com/content.php?ar...g =Room+Setup

For DIY, look at:
www.rivesaudio.com
www.realtraps.com

Kal

[H. Brown]

On 20 Jul 2006 03:36:00 GMT, Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On 19 Jul 2006 23:45:01 GMT, wrote:

Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Why not do it yourself;

http://www.cardas.com/content.php?ar...g =Room+Setup

For DIY, look at:
www.rivesaudio.com
www.realtraps.com

Kal

I came across this, opinions?

http://www.rpginc.com/products/roomoptimizer/index.htm

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wrote:
Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

There are two kinds of people who do this wort of
work:

1. Professional acoustical engineers and firms. They have the
tools, the experience, the knowledge and the resources to
do it right. They can demand and can easily get quite high fees
(several hundreds of dollars per hour) for their work, and they
generally earn it. In all likelihood, their recommendations will
take the form of architectural and/or structural changes, which
the way it should be done.



Years ago I made this call. Their response was that they did not do
that sort of thing and it would probably not be worth the money for
them to figure out how to modify my room. They kind of treated me like
I was an idiot for even calling. Maybe things have changed since then.




2. "High-end" hi-fi specialist who, for the most part do NOT
have the experience, the knowledge and the resources
to do it right. But they do have all sorts of fancy solutions.
They can demand and occasionally can get quite high fees
for their work, and they generally do not earn it. In all
likelihood,

Could you be more specific? The hifi specialists I know of that do room
treatment are RPG, Rives, Roomtunes, Sonex and The folks who make tube
traps. Would you say that all of these companies, as you say,"do NOT
have the experience, the knowledge and the resources to do it right?"
Who exactly are you talking about and who exactly in the high end audio
business like the companies I just named would not be included in your
generalization?


their recommendation will take the form of electrominc solutions,


I know of a few DSP systems that are supposed to work on room problems.
Would you say this is a bad thing to use?


tweaks and other semi-mysterious things of at best dubious
value.


Such as? Please be specific. Generalizations just add to the confusion.

Scott

[Kalman Rubinson]

On 20 Jul 2006 23:41:28 GMT, "H. Brown" wrote:

On 20 Jul 2006 03:36:00 GMT, Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On 19 Jul 2006 23:45:01 GMT, wrote:

Art Landy wrote:
I am convinced that the single most important element in getting the most
from high end equipment is the proper handling of the room-speaker
interface. I want to locate someone who for a fee would come to my home,
assess this for me and make recommendations. I need someone who is
knowledgeable enough to do a creditable job and who would be willing to see
the process through till the end with me. Are there any peole like this
available? I live in Maryland, close to both Baltimore and Washington, D.C.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Why not do it yourself;

http://www.cardas.com/content.php?ar...g =Room+Setup

For DIY, look at:
www.rivesaudio.com
www.realtraps.com

Kal

I came across this, opinions?

http://www.rpginc.com/products/roomoptimizer/index.htm

That's a nice program and it is very useful if you have a rectangular
room. The guidance offered is mostly graphic and simply tells you
where to put absorption/diffraction without telling you what effect
each will have. I have no doubt that, if you follow all the
suggestions, you will get decent results. However, I use it mostly to
test/eliminate poor positions for speakers and prefer to measure,
rather than model, the in-room responses.

Kal