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My download of RDH4 is legitamite!
Let's try and clear the air....
People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. - If someone did renew and owns the copyright and wants me to take it down: Email me your *proof of copyright ownership* and I will. Please *ask* me, no threats or intimidation. Posted to RAT since the emails I have been getting are usually regarding news spiders crawling this group. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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"Gregg" wrote in message news:duFMd.597$rB6.205@edtnps91... | Let's try and clear the air.... | | | People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy | and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: | | - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by | different people. | | - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright | in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought | the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a | copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. | | - If someone did renew and owns the copyright and wants me to take it | down: Email me your *proof of copyright ownership* and I will. Please | *ask* me, no threats or intimidation. | | Posted to RAT since the emails I have been getting are usually regarding | news spiders crawling this group. | | | -- | Gregg "t3h g33k" | http://geek.scorpiorising.ca | *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* hehe.............. me thinks that Fred is laughing now  -- -- .................................................. ........................ Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU "don't use force, "don't use force, use a larger hammer" use a larger tube - Choky and IST" - ZM .................................................. ........................... |
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Behold, Choky scribed on tube chassis:
hehe.............. me thinks that Fred is laughing now ;-) -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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Gregg wrote:
Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: We all know how people on the 'net really worry about copyrights... ;-) |
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Behold, robert casey scribed on tube chassis:
Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: We all know how people on the 'net really worry about copyrights... ;-) Hi Robert, I know, but one of my mirror folks got a little concerned and the *last* thing I need is for them to start bailing on us :-( Rock On!!! -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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"robert casey" a écrit dans le message de
nk.net... Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: We all know how people on the 'net really worry about copyrights... ;-) There are few individuals who care about copyrights and I happen to be one of them. I also happen to do my best to silently help others get for free what others make a business of. Meaning I will do the best I can to stay "clean" while serving the "community" for free, like so many others do. Gregg: Thanks for the email. BTW, I just upped my bandwidth to 80gig/month since the RDH4 (and other schematics) was eating most if not all my 40gig bandwidth. It's cheaper to buy upfront a +40gig monthly than paying the bills _after_...8o) If you know anything else needing a "mirror", you know how to reach me. Syl |
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Behold, Syl scribed on tube chassis:
"robert casey" a écrit dans le message de nk.net... Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: We all know how people on the 'net really worry about copyrights... ;-) There are few individuals who care about copyrights and I happen to be one of them. I also happen to do my best to silently help others get for free what others make a business of. Meaning I will do the best I can to stay "clean" while serving the "community" for free, like so many others do. Gregg: Thanks for the email. BTW, I just upped my bandwidth to 80gig/month since the RDH4 (and other schematics) was eating most if not all my 40gig bandwidth. It's cheaper to buy upfront a +40gig monthly than paying the bills _after_...8o) If you know anything else needing a "mirror", you know how to reach me. Syl You're the best, Syl! :-) -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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Gregg wrote:
Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. - If someone did renew and owns the copyright and wants me to take it down: Email me your *proof of copyright ownership* and I will. Please *ask* me, no threats or intimidation. Posted to RAT since the emails I have been getting are usually regarding news spiders crawling this group. I'm not real concerned about it either way; I just noted previously that the same files are on the CD I bought. ------ I would point out however that most of the files are scans of a 51-year old book--but technically two parts are not. That is the table of contents and index, which were re-created digitally. I know that *technically* this was not strictly necessary for creating the clickable TOC--they could have just used transparent regions over the regular page scan--so it may have been done to assert copyright over a fairly-crucial portion of the publication. --- If you're really concerned you might contact Antique Audio (or anywhere else selling a CD copy) as well as the past publisher that did a printed version--and ask both of them who has the print and electronic rights. I don't know that Antique Audio supply has the publishing rights, but the CD jacket in mine says "copyright 2002 Audio Amateur Inc/A publicasion of Audio Amateur Inc/Peterborogh NH USA/audioXpress.com". ~~~~~~ |
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Behold, DougC scribed on tube chassis:
snip --- If you're really concerned you might contact Antique Audio (or anywhere else selling a CD copy) as well as the past publisher that did a printed version I tried to contact the original publisher in Oz - they been toast for quite a while with no forwarding address..... I have no problem yanking the TOC if it's not original... -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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"Gregg" wrote in message news:JUZMd.1358$L_3.17@clgrps13... Behold, robert casey scribed on tube chassis: Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: We all know how people on the 'net really worry about copyrights... ;-) Hi Robert, I know, but one of my mirror folks got a little concerned and the *last* thing I need is for them to start bailing on us :-( Hi Gregg. Other than the fact that that international copyright laws are so vague as to be virtually unenforceable, the first thing the copyright owner (if one exists) does is send a "cease & desist", and, once that's done, *and* you fail to comply, a hopelessly costly (for the copyright owner), lengthy & unproductive legal action could be started. This is made even more hopeless for the (potential) copyright owner by the fact that you're not showing *any* gains by distributing the material - Nothing to sue for, damages are next to impossible to prove... In short, *no one should worry*. -dim |
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"shiva" a écrit dans le message de
news:1rgNd.13622$QS5.10063@trndny06... "Gregg" wrote in message news:JUZMd.1358$L_3.17@clgrps13... Behold, robert casey scribed on tube chassis: Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: We all know how people on the 'net really worry about copyrights... ;-) Hi Robert, I know, but one of my mirror folks got a little concerned and the *last* thing I need is for them to start bailing on us :-( Hi Gregg. Other than the fact that that international copyright laws are so vague as to be virtually unenforceable, the first thing the copyright owner (if one exists) does is send a "cease & desist", and, once that's done, *and* you fail to comply, a hopelessly costly (for the copyright owner), lengthy & unproductive legal action could be started. This is made even more hopeless for the (potential) copyright owner by the fact that you're not showing *any* gains by distributing the material - Nothing to sue for, damages are next to impossible to prove... In short, *no one should worry*. -dim Oh yeah ? Think twice... All I have to do is call the RCMP in Canada and ask them to bust the guy based on the Pirated Software Act, since the medium is on a CD... Pirating software is a criminal act. Getting busted cost the "pirate" to spend a lot of money hiring a lawyer, not fun. Getting your money back as a copyright owner does cost $ as it would be a "civil case". Syl |
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Gregg wrote:
Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. Maybe if RCA took a break from making cheap tv's in china they might notice I doubt anyone cares about a few people downloading a 50 yearold research book. Old Colony used to sell it on cd so I would question their legitimacy before yours. Adam |
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Behold, Syl scribed on tube chassis:
snip Hi Gregg. Other than the fact that that international copyright laws are so vague as to be virtually unenforceable, the first thing the copyright owner (if one exists) does is send a "cease & desist", and, once that's done, *and* you fail to comply, a hopelessly costly (for the copyright owner), lengthy & unproductive legal action could be started. This is made even more hopeless for the (potential) copyright owner by the fact that you're not showing *any* gains by distributing the material - Nothing to sue for, damages are next to impossible to prove... In short, *no one should worry*. -dim Oh yeah ? Think twice... All I have to do is call the RCMP in Canada and ask them to bust the guy based on the Pirated Software Act, since the medium is on a CD... Pirating software is a criminal act. Getting busted cost the "pirate" to spend a lot of money hiring a lawyer, not fun. Getting your money back as a copyright owner does cost $ as it would be a "civil case". Syl How come when people reported to the cops about a spammer selling millions of pirated CD's in my town (part of a newspaper sting - they flooded the market, including local retailers, then blamed downloaders), they said "so?" It took four years and a court order to *force* the police to take action. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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Gregg wrote:
I tried to contact the original publisher in Oz - they been toast for quite a while with no forwarding address..... That may be true, but that does not mean that rights were not transferred before that original company dissolved, and saying "I didn't know" is not an admissable copyright-infringement defense. ---If you really want to know, you should ask anywhere currently selling any versions, CD or printed, what the situation with the publishing rights is. You can bet that a company would have had their lawyer nail down the matter before they would start offering copies for sale. There's at least one company selling the CD versions, and a few years back a British company was offering a printed 2-volume set, I heard. If both their answers agree, then they are both probably telling the truth. ~~~~ |
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Adam Stouffer wrote: Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. Maybe if RCA took a break from making cheap tv's in china they might notice I doubt anyone cares about a few people downloading a 50 yearold research book. Old Colony used to sell it on cd so I would question their legitimacy before yours. Still offered for sale on the AudioXpress web site today. See http://www.audioxpress.com/bksprods/...treference.htm Cheers, JLS Adam |
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Behold, John Stewart scribed on tube chassis:
Adam Stouffer wrote: Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. Maybe if RCA took a break from making cheap tv's in china they might notice I doubt anyone cares about a few people downloading a 50 yearold research book. Old Colony used to sell it on cd so I would question their legitimacy before yours. Still offered for sale on the AudioXpress web site today. See http://www.audioxpress.com/bksprods/...treference.htm Cheers, JLS "Pages may be printed on a suitable printer" Hmmmm, interesting. Most publishers absolutely prohibit this..... -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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Behold, DougC scribed on tube chassis:
Gregg wrote: I tried to contact the original publisher in Oz - they been toast for quite a while with no forwarding address..... That may be true, but that does not mean that rights were not transferred before that original company dissolved, and saying "I didn't know" is not an admissable copyright-infringement defense. ---If you really want to know, you should ask anywhere currently selling any versions, CD or printed, what the situation with the publishing rights is. You can bet that a company would have had their lawyer nail down the matter before they would start offering copies for sale. There's at least one company selling the CD versions, and a few years back a British company was offering a printed 2-volume set, I heard. If both their answers agree, then they are both probably telling the truth. ~~~~ Well.....that's kinda why I did the copyright database search. It too came up with no transfers (as said in my original post). -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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Behold, Gregg scribed on tube chassis:
Behold, DougC scribed on tube chassis: Gregg wrote: I tried to contact the original publisher in Oz - they been toast for quite a while with no forwarding address..... That may be true, but that does not mean that rights were not transferred before that original company dissolved, and saying "I didn't know" is not an admissable copyright-infringement defense. ---If you really want to know, you should ask anywhere currently selling any versions, CD or printed, what the situation with the publishing rights is. You can bet that a company would have had their lawyer nail down the matter before they would start offering copies for sale. There's at least one company selling the CD versions, and a few years back a British company was offering a printed 2-volume set, I heard. If both their answers agree, then they are both probably telling the truth. ~~~~ Well.....that's kinda why I did the copyright database search. It too came up with no transfers (as said in my original post). OK, I just researched the Canadian and United States copyright database again - RDH4 (under several title permutations) still is not showing up in the US or Canada. Therefore as of right now, in the US and Canada RDH4 is PUBLIC DOMAIN :-) -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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John Stewart wrote:
Adam Stouffer wrote: Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. Maybe if RCA took a break from making cheap tv's in china they might notice I doubt anyone cares about a few people downloading a 50 yearold research book. Old Colony used to sell it on cd so I would question their legitimacy before yours. Still offered for sale on the AudioXpress web site today. See http://www.audioxpress.com/bksprods/...treference.htm Cheers, JLS Many books are offered for sale which includes works with the copyright expired. Think of the works of Rudyard Kipling, J. W. Goethe etc. You can download those books free from http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/ or for your PDA from http://manybooks.net/. (Anybody volunteer to put RDH4 on Gutenberg?) That a book is for sale does not imply that it is not in the public domain. Even modern books are for sale and you also may download them free from some website legally with the explicit permission of the author. Think of "The Hacker Crackdown" by Bruce Sterling. That book is copyrighted but free for download - just not for comercial exploit. With copyright law there are so many variables - no easy loadline ;-) Kind regards, Eike -- Life is like Golf - even if it's not going well you don't want it to end. |
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See ABSE for a copyright statement from the publisher. JLS
Gregg wrote: Let's try and clear the air.... People have been emailing me questioning the legitamacy of my copy and that it may be in violation of copyright - let me try and answer: - Source of this copy: I have no idea. It was sent to me in pieces by different people. - Does it violate copyright law? No. The copyright is 1953 and copyright in Canada lasts for 50 years. That was up in 2003. If someone *had* bought the copyright before then and renewed it, it did not show up on a copyright search I did *before* I added these files here. - If someone did renew and owns the copyright and wants me to take it down: Email me your *proof of copyright ownership* and I will. Please *ask* me, no threats or intimidation. Posted to RAT since the emails I have been getting are usually regarding news spiders crawling this group. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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Eike Lantzsch, ZP6CGE wrote:
(Anybody volunteer to put RDH4 on Gutenberg?) ... Kind regards, Eike All the books I find on Gutenberg are plain-text files. RDH-4 would really needs to be done in PDF, nothing else supports all the features it needs. (almost done with chapter 11...) ~~~~ |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:55:59 -0600, DougC wrote:
Eike Lantzsch, ZP6CGE wrote: (Anybody volunteer to put RDH4 on Gutenberg?) ... Kind regards, Eike All the books I find on Gutenberg are plain-text files. RDH-4 would really needs to be done in PDF, nothing else supports all the features it needs. (almost done with chapter 11...) ~~~~ Here is one in HTML, on early wireless techniques. http://www.gutenberg.org/cdproject/c.../thrdm10ah.htm Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net |
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Brian McAllister wrote:
Here is one in HTML, on early wireless techniques. http://www.gutenberg.org/cdproject/c.../thrdm10ah.htm Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida Hmmmm, pictures. Still leaves a lot to be desired though, in this case. ------- Say, that reminds me--does anyone have any images of the esteemed Mr. Langford-Smith? I looked around with Google and could not turn up any online. Email any to me: cimpermand [at] charter [dot] net .... ??? |
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DougC wrote:
Eike Lantzsch, ZP6CGE wrote: (Anybody volunteer to put RDH4 on Gutenberg?) ... Kind regards, Eike All the books I find on Gutenberg are plain-text files. RDH-4 would really needs to be done in PDF, nothing else supports all the features it needs. (almost done with chapter 11...) ~~~~ You're right with the PDF. But Gutenberg allows PDFs. You can find "Ludwig van Beethoven, String Quartet No. 05 in a major Opus 18" The keys would not really appear in plain text - just like formulas and diagrams won't. I appreciate your arduous work, by the way. Kind regards, Eike |
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Behold, John Stewart scribed on tube chassis:
See ABSE for a copyright statement from the publisher. JLS So, it's copyright in the UK. I'm on a UK server. I have to write them to clarify this. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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"Gregg" a écrit dans le message de
news:HrCNd.14809$L_3.8975@clgrps13... Behold, Syl scribed on tube chassis: snip Hi Gregg. Other than the fact that that international copyright laws are so vague as to be virtually unenforceable, the first thing the copyright owner (if one exists) does is send a "cease & desist", and, once that's done, *and* you fail to comply, a hopelessly costly (for the copyright owner), lengthy & unproductive legal action could be started. This is made even more hopeless for the (potential) copyright owner by the fact that you're not showing *any* gains by distributing the material - Nothing to sue for, damages are next to impossible to prove... In short, *no one should worry*. -dim Oh yeah ? Think twice... All I have to do is call the RCMP in Canada and ask them to bust the guy based on the Pirated Software Act, since the medium is on a CD... Pirating software is a criminal act. Getting busted cost the "pirate" to spend a lot of money hiring a lawyer, not fun. Getting your money back as a copyright owner does cost $ as it would be a "civil case". Syl How come when people reported to the cops about a spammer selling millions of pirated CD's in my town (part of a newspaper sting - they flooded the market, including local retailers, then blamed downloaders), they said "so?" It took four years and a court order to *force* the police to take action. There are incompetents everywhere unfortunately. They were probably friends of Chretien, our tax dollars at work... Syl |
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Behold, Syl scribed on tube chassis:
"Gregg" a écrit dans le message de news:HrCNd.14809$L_3.8975@clgrps13... How come when people reported to the cops about a spammer selling millions of pirated CD's in my town (part of a newspaper sting - they flooded the market, including local retailers, then blamed downloaders), they said "so?" It took four years and a court order to *force* the police to take action. There are incompetents everywhere unfortunately. They were probably friends of Chretien, our tax dollars at work... Syl LOL!!! -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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