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Looking for a ribbon mic for Vocals?
I am looking for a good ribbon mic for recording vocals in my studio.
currently I am using a u87,414 and a 441 for most vocals. My price range is$1200. Glenn. |
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I am looking for a good ribbon mic for recording vocals in my studio. currently I am using a u87,414 and a 441 for most vocals. My price range is$1200. What kind of vocals? What do you want that you can't get from the 441? Do you need a figure-8 pattern? What kind of preamp do you have available? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Dec 21, 8:12*pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote: I am looking for a good ribbon mic for recording vocals in my studio. currently I am using a u87,414 and a 441 for most vocals. My price range is$1200. What kind of vocals? *What do you want that you can't get from the 441? Do you need a figure-8 pattern? *What kind of preamp do you have available? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. *C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Well let,s see I would like a mic for a full sound. male or female. On some Nashville country lead vocals I hear a tubby rich sound. Usually on male vocals. The u87 and 414 are clear and handle most all vocals pretty good. Not real full though. As far as pre's go I have API, Neve, Focusrite,Presision audio,HHB,Peavey and a few others. What is sparking my interest is I bought a Shinybox ribbon mic used from this guy yesterday. I can' believe how good it sounds. The last ribbon mic I owned was a Beyer back in the 70's. Now I would like to try out a few. if they sound as good as this shinybox my mind starts racing on uses. vocals, baby grand piano, accoustic guitar for starters. Have you gone to tuesday testers site and listened to their mic tests? Glenn. |
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Well let,s see I would like a mic for a full sound. male or female. On some Nashville country lead vocals I hear a tubby rich sound. Usually on male vocals. The u87 and 414 are clear and handle most all vocals pretty good. Not real full though. As far as pre's go I have API, Neve, Focusrite,Presision audio,HHB,Peavey and a few others. Before doing anything else, then, I'd grab a 77dx, Don't ever use it in anything but figure-8 pattern, but it's a very fine sounding mike. It doesn't have a lot of top end and it is VERY touchy about loading. It's not very Nashville-sounding... not as much top end definition as the 441 or the RE-20. But it's a great sound for a lot of vocalists. It's a thing everyone should have in the closet. You can buy one now for a reasonable price, and sell at a profit if you decide you don't need it any more. What is sparking my interest is I bought a Shinybox ribbon mic used from this guy yesterday. I can' believe how good it sounds. The last ribbon mic I owned was a Beyer back in the 70's. Now I would like to try out a few. if they sound as good as this shinybox my mind starts racing on uses. vocals, baby grand piano, accoustic guitar for starters. I'd suggest, then, that you consider the Beyer M-160. It's not usually my first choice as a vocal mike, but it's a good vocal mike for some kinds of vocals, and it has a lot more top end than the 77DX without being artificially "airy" like the U87 and the 414B/ULS. You probably still know what it sounds like. It's tight as hell... enough that you can use it on a guitar without hearing the performer singing. Have you gone to tuesday testers site and listened to their mic tests? No, what is it? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Dec 21, 10:15*pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote: Well let,s see I would like a mic for a full sound. male or female. On some Nashville country lead vocals I hear a tubby rich sound. Usually on male vocals. The u87 and 414 are clear and handle most all vocals pretty good. Not real full though. *As far as pre's go I have API, Neve, Focusrite,Presision audio,HHB,Peavey *and a few others. Before doing anything else, then, I'd grab a 77dx, *Don't ever use it in anything but figure-8 pattern, but it's a very fine sounding mike. It doesn't have a lot of top end and it is VERY touchy about loading. It's not very Nashville-sounding... not as much top end definition as the 441 or the RE-20. *But it's a great sound for a lot of vocalists. It's a thing everyone should have in the closet. *You can buy one now for a reasonable price, and sell at a profit if you decide you don't need it any more. * What is sparking my interest is I bought a Shinybox ribbon mic used from this guy yesterday. *I can' believe how good it sounds. The last ribbon mic I owned was a Beyer back in the 70's. Now I would like to try out a few. if they sound as good as this shinybox my mind starts racing on uses. vocals, baby grand piano, accoustic guitar for starters. I'd suggest, then, that you consider the Beyer M-160. *It's not usually my first choice as a vocal mike, but it's a good vocal mike for some kinds of vocals, and it has a lot more top end than the 77DX without being artificially "airy" like the U87 and the 414B/ULS. *You probably still know what it sounds like. *It's tight as hell... enough that you can use it on a guitar without hearing the performer singing. * * * * * * * Have you gone to tuesday testers site and listened to their mic tests? No, what is it? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. *C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Thanks Scott for the info. That dx77 is hard to find. It looks like they sell for $1500 to $2500. The Beyer I will have to look into also. The Tuesday testers is part of a store online. Front end audio. They have sound clips of dozens of mics on drums,acc,vocals. Very educational. Glenn. |
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Looking for a ribbon mic for Vocals?
I am looking for a good ribbon mic for recording vocals in my studio.
currently I am using a u87,414 and a 441 for most vocals. My price range is$1200. Are you sure you´re after a ribbon if you need a vocal mic. Be prepared to add a lot of treble, all ribbons I have tried are pretty dark. This is also one of the reasons so many people like ribbons on electrical guitars, they seem to capture the hi mid with a more mellow tone than ie a SM57. Crowley and Tripp makes one that they call "Studio Vocalist" which may be different (hence the name). |
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Looking for a ribbon mic for Vocals?
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HKC wrote: I am looking for a good ribbon mic for recording vocals in my studio. currently I am using a u87,414 and a 441 for most vocals. My price range is$1200. Are you sure you´re after a ribbon if you need a vocal mic. Be prepared to add a lot of treble, all ribbons I have tried are pretty dark. This is also one of the reasons so many people like ribbons on electrical guitars, they seem to capture the hi mid with a more mellow tone than ie a SM57. Crowley and Tripp makes one that they call "Studio Vocalist" which may be different (hence the name). I reviewed the Crowley and Tripp in the July 2006 issue of Recording. It's a fun microphone... it has a smooth top end but it has a monster presence peak. It's useful, but it's not like a typical ribbon. Also not like a typical ribbon is the Coles 4040, which has a lot of top end but doesn't have the presence boost. If a singer sounds really good on an SM-57, they are apt to sound good on the Studio Vocalist or on a Beyer M-500. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Thanks Scott for the info. That dx77 is hard to find. It looks like they sell for $1500 to $2500. That's a little high, but not totally out of line. Millions of the things were made.... every radio station in the country had a couple in the closet. They aren't in production any longer but they sure aren't rare. You'll find they are a very familiar sound, just because they were so popular for so long. The Beyer I will have to look into also. It's very different than the traditional RCA ribbons. It has a very highly tensioned ribbon that is corrugated in an odd diamond pattern. The Tuesday testers is part of a store online. Front end audio. They have sound clips of dozens of mics on drums,acc,vocals. Very educational. I'll look for it next week when I next have web access. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Looking for a ribbon mic for Vocals?
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:12:40 -0500, Scott Dorsey wrote
(in article ): wrote: I am looking for a good ribbon mic for recording vocals in my studio. currently I am using a u87,414 and a 441 for most vocals. My price range is$1200. What kind of vocals? What do you want that you can't get from the 441? Do you need a figure-8 pattern? What kind of preamp do you have available? --scott If you go hehttp://idisk.mac.com/tyreeford-Public/AEA?view=web There are samples of a recent experiment. 1. Full Mix: both U 89 condenser and R84 ribbon used on main vocal 2. Vocals only using a U 89 and an AEA R84 ribbon some EQ but no EFX 3. Vocals only using a U 89 and an AEA R84 ribbon some EQ and with EFX 4. Vocals only the AEA R84 I like the combined sound. The U 89 provides some upper harmonics (as your 414 would) and the R84 fills in a lot of midrange detail. I'm using the AEA TRP preamp on the R84. Wes may be able to tell you more. He may also have these tracks at NAMM, dunno for sure. Regards, Ty Ford --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA |
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