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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
Arny Krueger wrote: snip An old trick, that I can't remember when I was first told about, is to trigger the scope from the clean sinewave. You thus get consistent triggering and can view the THD+N residual without it jumping about. This is most useful with storage 'scopes, and is how I produce the traces that you can see, for example, in figs.9 & 10 at http://www.stereophile.com/tubepower...tl/index4.html When John Atkinson posts technical information that is concise, helpful, and practical and usable and Arny can only crow emotionally about how I haven't spent YEARS, unkike himself, doing something that was incidental in the first place, you know the world is not as it first seems! I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. I'll admit it, I learned quite a bit about using THD analyzers at MacIntosh clinics during the late 1950s. It worked well for me until the late 1990s when I switched over to primarily using FFT analyzers. I've never seen THD examined as a Lissajous. It's one of the oldest tricks around. Lissajous patterns also facilitate manually balancing the THD analyzer's bridge. The frequency dial reduces the display in the vertical direction, and the balance control reduces the loopiness. The hand-and-eye coordination comes pretty quick. AFAIK I learned the trick at a Mac Clinic in the late 1950s. The learning curve was pretty quick - I looked over the tech's shoulder, saw the Lissajous pattern on the scope and how well it worked, and thought "Oh!". ;-) I'm sure Dave O'Brien would have explained it. What do you use to drive the timebase input ( assuming it's even available ). Lissajous = X/Y IOW you don't use a time base, you use the output of the oscillator for X and the output of the bridge for Y. That's one of the other advantages - you never need to diddle with the sweep controls on the scope, unless you really want to look at the display with a time base. Since the Lissajous pattern brings out the order the predominate distortion so well, you may never want to go back to using the time base in this application again. It may well be a good test procedure, I just hadn't done it. |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
Pooh Bear wrote: snip Not all scopes have an Ext X input of course too. That's one of the other advantages - you never need to diddle with the sweep controls on the scope, unless you really want to look at the display with a time base. Since the Lissajous pattern brings out the order the predominate distortion so well, you may never want to go back to using the time base in this application again. Z axis is optional, X-Y is pretty near universal, usually the ext trigger or a particular channel input doubles with a switch selection. |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
Arny Krueger wrote: snip I completely stopped using my THD analyzer about 5 years ago when readily-available sound cards got "good enough". Boy are all those VME/VXI and CompactPCI vendor customers of Agilent and Aeroflex dumb. Paying all that moneyu for what regualer old commodisumo peecees do as well! |
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The Amazing Arnie
"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: snip If the kitty-cat knows that you always serve it cream in a blue bowl, then it will come to you when you place a blue bowl before it. If the you place a blue bowl in front the kitty-cat and it does not come, then it must not know that you always serve it cream in a blue bowl. I think cats are colorblind. Actually, as any person who is experienced with cats can tell you, cats are notoriously hard to train. Any behavioral experiment on cats is therefore going to be troublesome. Nevertheless, some scientists have gone to the trouble (probably with government money) and found that not only do cats have the basic equipment for sensing color, they actually can distinguish color. |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: snip An old trick, that I can't remember when I was first told about, is to trigger the scope from the clean sinewave. You thus get consistent triggering and can view the THD+N residual without it jumping about. This is most useful with storage 'scopes, and is how I produce the traces that you can see, for example, in figs.9 & 10 at http://www.stereophile.com/tubepower...tl/index4.html When John Atkinson posts technical information that is concise, helpful, and practical and usable and Arny can only crow emotionally about how I haven't spent YEARS, unkike himself, doing something that was incidental in the first place, you know the world is not as it first seems! I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. I'll admit it, I learned quite a bit about using THD analyzers at MacIntosh clinics during the late 1950s. It worked well for me until the late 1990s when I switched over to primarily using FFT analyzers. I've never seen THD examined as a Lissajous. It's one of the oldest tricks around. Lissajous patterns also facilitate manually balancing the THD analyzer's bridge. The frequency dial reduces the display in the vertical direction, and the balance control reduces the loopiness. The hand-and-eye coordination comes pretty quick. AFAIK I learned the trick at a Mac Clinic in the late 1950s. The learning curve was pretty quick - I looked over the tech's shoulder, saw the Lissajous pattern on the scope and how well it worked, and thought "Oh!". ;-) I'm sure Dave O'Brien would have explained it. The tech might have been Dave O., but the point is that he didn't need to explain it to me. Since you know his name and he was around a lot, you've probably seen him work. This begs the question why you didn't learn the trick from him? The answer is obvious - you probably didn't know a Lissajou figure from a warm hole in the ground, so it was all over your head. What do you use to drive the timebase input ( assuming it's even available ). Lissajous = X/Y I was shaking my head as I typed this. Lissajous patterns were one of the reasons why and how the oscilliscope was invented. *Every* (well almost every) electronics and physics book covered them back in the days that the dinosaurs roamed the earth and Edison was still alive. Not that I ever saw Edison alive... IOW you don't use a time base, you use the output of the oscillator for X and the output of the bridge for Y. That's one of the other advantages - you never need to diddle with the sweep controls on the scope, unless you really want to look at the display with a time base. Since the Lissajous pattern brings out the order the predominate distortion so well, you may never want to go back to using the time base in this application again. It may well be a good test procedure, I just hadn't done it. Nahh *Bret*, you've been flat on your feet through this whole thread. It's obviously all new to you. Stick to dropping names and making personal attacks - it's what you are good at! ;-) |
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The Amazing Arnie
Bertie said to the Big ****: If the kitty-cat knows that you always serve it cream in a blue bowl, then it will come to you when you place a blue bowl before it. I think cats are colorblind. Stop trying to confuse the Krooborg with facts. Mr. **** is deep into his "debating trade" frenzy and he can't be bothered with reality until he's finished. And in case you didn't know, the "debate" is finished when everybody else gives up and stops replying to the Krooborg's verbal turds. .. .. |
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The Amazing Arnie
Arny Krueger wrote: "John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. Frankly, I find it astonishing given the fact that I have not discussed Lissajou figures at all. Your mindreading abilities continue to amaze me, Mr. Krueger :-) Actually, it takes no mind reading at all. If someone has every used a THD analyzer with a scope running in X/Ymode, or as one might say in Lissajou mode, they'd have a hard time keeping quiet about it unless they were really just plain really afraid to post. Since your posting patterns are shall I say known, the rest is simple logic. John Atkinson is right. This is amazing. Let's translate what Arny Krueger says into plain English: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me about lissajous, so he doesn't know about lissajous." This is the equivalent of: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me where to buy the best fennel, so it is clear he can't cook." Where were you educated. Krueger? Take a tip, man. Read your Bible a little. Notice how action and consequence are directly connected. It is called logic. Anyone who pretends to be an engineer, as you do, should demonstrate better logic than to claim that, because someone doesn't volunteer information, he is ignorant. Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review Letsee if I can explain the logic to you John, in words that you can understand. If the kitty-cat knows that you always serve it cream in a blue bowl, then it will come to you when you place a blue bowl before it. If the you place a blue bowl in front the kitty-cat and it does not come, then it must not know that you always serve it cream in a blue bowl. Get it now? ;-) |
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The Amazing Arnie
"Andre Jute" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: "John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. Frankly, I find it astonishing given the fact that I have not discussed Lissajou figures at all. Your mindreading abilities continue to amaze me, Mr. Krueger :-) Actually, it takes no mind reading at all. If someone has every used a THD analyzer with a scope running in X/Ymode, or as one might say in Lissajou mode, they'd have a hard time keeping quiet about it unless they were really just plain really afraid to post. Since your posting patterns are shall I say known, the rest is simple logic. John Atkinson is right. This is amazing. Let's translate what Arny Krueger says into plain English: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me about lissajous, so he doesn't know about lissajous." This is the equivalent of: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me where to buy the best fennel, so it is clear he can't cook." No it's not as simple as your mind is limited to thinking about, Jute. It's more like "Mr. Atkinson didn't mention using a funnel to fill jars when someone asked about how to fill jars, and I'm surprised that I had to be the one to point the funnel method out". As I pointed out in another post, Lissajou patterns are one of the reasons why oscilloscopes became popular test equipment. They were covered by the first year engineering course at the university I attended, and they were covered in the introductory electronics class that the Army put me through. Good thing, because Lissajou patterns were one of the few things that the basic Army/Navy oscilloscope of the day (OS-8) could accurately display. ;-) http://jproc.ca/rrp/emr_bcase_l.jpg |
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The Amazing Arnie
Arny Krueger wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: "John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. Frankly, I find it astonishing given the fact that I have not discussed Lissajou figures at all. Your mindreading abilities continue to amaze me, Mr. Krueger :-) Actually, it takes no mind reading at all. If someone has every used a THD analyzer with a scope running in X/Ymode, or as one might say in Lissajou mode, they'd have a hard time keeping quiet about it unless they were really just plain really afraid to post. Since your posting patterns are shall I say known, the rest is simple logic. John Atkinson is right. This is amazing. Let's translate what Arny Krueger says into plain English: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me about lissajous, so he doesn't know about lissajous." This is the equivalent of: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me where to buy the best fennel, so it is clear he can't cook." No it's not as simple as your mind is limited to thinking about, Jute. It's more like "Mr. Atkinson didn't mention using a funnel to fill jars when someone asked about how to fill jars, and I'm surprised that I had to be the one to point the funnel method out". Point to the post where you asked Mr Atkinson to tell you how to fill the jar. I never cease to be amazed by your continual desperate casting around to find someone who knows less than you do about some tiny matter. Isn't there anyone in all the world, Arny. who loves you for yourself? Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review As I pointed out in another post, Lissajou patterns are one of the reasons why oscilloscopes became popular test equipment. They were covered by the first year engineering course at the university I attended, and they were covered in the introductory electronics class that the Army put me through. Good thing, because Lissajou patterns were one of the few things that the basic Army/Navy oscilloscope of the day (OS-8) could accurately display. ;-) http://jproc.ca/rrp/emr_bcase_l.jpg |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
Arny Krueger wrote: I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. I'll admit it, I learned quite a bit about using THD analyzers at MacIntosh clinics during the late 1950s. It worked well for me until the late 1990s when I switched over to primarily using FFT analyzers. I've never seen THD examined as a Lissajous. It's one of the oldest tricks around. Lissajous patterns also facilitate manually balancing the THD analyzer's bridge. The frequency dial reduces the display in the vertical direction, and the balance control reduces the loopiness. The hand-and-eye coordination comes pretty quick. AFAIK I learned the trick at a Mac Clinic in the late 1950s. The learning curve was pretty quick - I looked over the tech's shoulder, saw the Lissajous pattern on the scope and how well it worked, and thought "Oh!". ;-) I'm sure Dave O'Brien would have explained it. The tech might have been Dave O., but the point is that he didn't need to explain it to me. Since you know his name and he was around a lot, you've probably seen him work. This begs the question why you didn't learn the trick from him? The answer is obvious - you probably didn't know a Lissajou figure from a warm hole in the ground, so it was all over your head. A pretty good guess would be that since Dave had a 40+ year career, when Bret saw him he wasn't using them anymore. When I saw him the last time he didn't have a scope, only four Sound Technology boxes in road cases. Dave has written a book on his experiences, which appears tro be available only through Audio Classics in Walton, NY. What do you use to drive the timebase input ( assuming it's even available ). Lissajous = X/Y I was shaking my head as I typed this. Lissajous patterns were one of the reasons why and how the oscilliscope was invented. *Every* (well almost every) electronics and physics book covered them back in the days that the dinosaurs roamed the earth and Edison was still alive. Not that I ever saw Edison alive... No, Lissajous patterns were a very useful application for the scope, but it wasn't invented for that reason. However, very few people use L-pats for very much anymore. They were primarily used for frequency comparisons, not purity of signal. As an earlier poster said, a great deal of things were done using scopes as qualitative devices, looking at shapes and patterns such as Lissajous figures, AM mod envelopes, CW keying, and "haystack" displays of bandpass with sweep generators-a crude form of network analyzer. And as component testers along the lines of the Huntron Tracker. After Vollum, oscilloscopes were viewed more and more as precision, quantitative devices. When you had spectrum analyzers, distortion analyzers, vector and scalar network analyzers and logic and signature analyzers (in the earlier sense of digital pattern recognition and not as Huntron has misappropriated the term currently) you didn't need lashups with scopes and peopple largely forgot the old methods. Since the electronic service industry is dead and with it the need for non-highly-financed organizations to do serious electronic test procedures the old skills have, largely, died out. |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message .. . "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Surely you jest! If you think my posts are coarse Iain, I can't imagine what you think of those very many profanity-filled missives that fill Usenet. just like the ones in which you falsely accused numerous individuals of sending you kiddie porn via email. Prove that the accusations were false, if you can. For starters, I'll refer to your own posts, the ones where you claim you talked to MSP detectives who told you the images were not kiddie porn. I have to admit though, that those posts were just more of your lies. You never got any porn eamail from anyone here, there never was any kiddie prone sent to you, or porn of any kind, and, therefore, you never had any such discussions woth the MSP. The header information you supplied regarding you supplied was shown to have been forged. At any rate, you offered no proof regarding the content od the purported emails. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... I am. For one thing unlike your posts Iain, my posts are truthful and sincere unless presented as humor. Now 'that' was funny!. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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The Amazing Arnie
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: I find Atkinson's unfamiliarity with the process of looking at Lissajou patterns at the output of a THD analyzer to be quite revealing. Frankly, I find it astonishing given the fact that I have not discussed Lissajou figures at all. Your mindreading abilities continue to amaze me, Mr. Krueger :-) Actually, it takes no mind reading at all. If someone has every used a THD analyzer with a scope running in X/Ymode, or as one might say in Lissajou mode, they'd have a hard time keeping quiet about it unless they were really just plain really afraid to post. Since your posting patterns are shall I say known, the rest is simple logic. Since you haven't been talking lately about receiving kiddie porn email, we'll asume you are getting them by the boatload. Since your posting patterns are shall I say known, the rest is simple logic. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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The Amazing Arnie
Arny Krueger wrote: "Mr. Atkinson didn't mention using a funnel to fill jars when someone asked about how to fill jars, and I'm surprised that I had to be the one to point the funnel method out". More mind reading :-) Arny Kreuger is like an astable multivibrator: a tiny, even imaginary stimulus and off he goes, generating an indefinite, infinitely prolonged output! (At least until someone else in his house needs to use the computer :-) John Atkinson Editor, Funnelophile |
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The Amazing Arnie
From: "John Atkinson"
Date: 20 Jan 2006 16:52:26 -0800 John Atkinson Editor, Funnelophile So Arny was right: You really *do* know a lot about funnels. By your silence millions have not filled their jars using the secretive 'funnel method' that you could have taught to them. Because of your silence, there have probably been dozens of honey-and-vegetable-oil-on-the-kitchen-floor mishaps, with resultant mess and slick floors, possibly resulting in broken limbs and ended marriages. Maybe even shattered hopes and dreams, even. Hundreds of people could right now be using alcohol or drugs to soften the pain that you, and only you, could have helped them avoid by teaching them the 'funnel method' of jar filling. . Does knowing that you have helped create alcoholics and drug addicts (and I've just proven that you have) make you feel any remorse? One would hope that you have learned a strong lesson, Mr. Atkinson. One would hope that when the topic of funnels comes up again you will share your expertise. As I've shown logically, the results of your silence have been catastrophic to many, many lives. |
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The Amazing Arnie
On 20 Jan 2006 10:05:42 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:
This is the equivalent of: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me where to buy the best fennel, so it is clear he can't cook." No it's not as simple as your mind is limited to thinking about, Jute. It's more like "Mr. Atkinson didn't mention using a funnel to fill jars when someone asked about how to fill jars, and I'm surprised that I had to be the one to point the funnel method out". Point to the post where you asked Mr Atkinson to tell you how to fill the jar. I never cease to be amazed by your continual desperate casting around to find someone who knows less than you do about some tiny matter. Isn't there anyone in all the world, Arny. who loves you for yourself? It's pretty obvious that Arnold thought he was responding to your "typo", probably not knowing what fennel is in the first place. In fact, fennel has probably not ever crossed his lips, since you usually don't find it on a ham and cheese sandwich. That's what makes his bizarre analogy quite hilarious. |
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The Amazing Arnie
"dave weil" wrote in message ... On 20 Jan 2006 10:05:42 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote: It's pretty obvious that Arnold thought he was responding to your "typo", probably not knowing what fennel is in the first place. In fact, fennel has probably not ever crossed his lips, since you usually don't find it on a ham and cheese sandwich. That's what makes his bizarre analogy quite hilarious. Kellogg's doesn't make fennel flavored corn flakes? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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The Amazing Arnie
Clyde Slick said: It's pretty obvious that Arnold thought he was responding to your "typo", probably not knowing what fennel is in the first place. In fact, fennel has probably not ever crossed his lips, since you usually don't find it on a ham and cheese sandwich. Kellogg's doesn't make fennel flavored corn flakes? Here's what Arnii puts on his corn flakes instead of fruit: http://www.typetive.com/blogimages/blackjack-lg.jpg |
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The Amazing Arnie
Warm Blue Glow wrote: From: "John Atkinson" Date: 20 Jan 2006 16:52:26 -0800 John Atkinson Editor, Funnelophile So Arny was right: You really *do* know a lot about funnels. By your silence millions have not filled their jars using the secretive 'funnel method' that you could have taught to them. Because of your silence, there have probably been dozens of honey-and-vegetable-oil-on-the-kitchen-floor mishaps, with resultant mess and slick floors, possibly resulting in broken limbs and ended marriages. Maybe even shattered hopes and dreams, even. Hundreds of people could right now be using alcohol or drugs to soften the pain that you, and only you, could have helped them avoid by teaching them the 'funnel method' of jar filling. . Does knowing that you have helped create alcoholics and drug addicts (and I've just proven that you have) make you feel any remorse? One would hope that you have learned a strong lesson, Mr. Atkinson. One would hope that when the topic of funnels comes up again you will share your expertise. As I've shown logically, the results of your silence have been catastrophic to many, many lives. ROTFLOL. Come again, Artyguy. You lift the spirits... ....all the way to the funnel! Andre Jute |
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The Amazing Arnie
George M. Middius wrote: Clyde Slick said: It's pretty obvious that Arnold thought he was responding to your "typo", probably not knowing what fennel is in the first place. In fact, fennel has probably not ever crossed his lips, since you usually don't find it on a ham and cheese sandwich. Kellogg's doesn't make fennel flavored corn flakes? Here's what Arnii puts on his corn flakes instead of fruit: http://www.typetive.com/blogimages/blackjack-lg.jpg I don't get this. Why doesn't Krueger just get a mouthwash? Or is this the same old story, that no one likes Krueger enough to tell him the awful truth? |
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The Amazing Arnie
dave weil wrote: On 20 Jan 2006 10:05:42 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote: This is the equivalent of: Arny sez: "Mr Atkinson didn't tell me where to buy the best fennel, so it is clear he can't cook." No it's not as simple as your mind is limited to thinking about, Jute. It's more like "Mr. Atkinson didn't mention using a funnel to fill jars when someone asked about how to fill jars, and I'm surprised that I had to be the one to point the funnel method out". Point to the post where you asked Mr Atkinson to tell you how to fill the jar. I never cease to be amazed by your continual desperate casting around to find someone who knows less than you do about some tiny matter. Isn't there anyone in all the world, Arny. who loves you for yourself? It's pretty obvious that Arnold thought he was responding to your "typo", probably not knowing what fennel is in the first place. In fact, fennel has probably not ever crossed his lips, since you usually don't find it on a ham and cheese sandwich. That's what makes his bizarre analogy quite hilarious. Actually, I think it makes it sad, Dave, as further proof that there is no one in the world who cares enough about Arny "I spoke in ignorance" Krueger to lay out his cheese and ham sandwich nicely on a plate with a bit of fennel for garnish. Andre Jute |
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The Amazing Arnie
Ignore the envious bleating from the cramped crapola merchant in the
peanut gallery. -- AJ The crooked garage trader Jon Yaeger wrote: in article , Warm Blue Glow at wrote on 1/21/06 1:25 AM: From: "John Atkinson" Date: 20 Jan 2006 16:52:26 -0800 John Atkinson Editor, Funnelophile So Arny was right: You really *do* know a lot about funnels. By your silence millions have not filled their jars using the secretive 'funnel method' that you could have taught to them. Because of your silence, there have probably been dozens of honey-and-vegetable-oil-on-the-kitchen-floor mishaps, with resultant mess and slick floors, possibly resulting in broken limbs and ended marriages. Maybe even shattered hopes and dreams, even. Hundreds of people could right now be using alcohol or drugs to soften the pain that you, and only you, could have helped them avoid by teaching them the 'funnel method' of jar filling. . Does knowing that you have helped create alcoholics and drug addicts (and I've just proven that you have) make you feel any remorse? One would hope that you have learned a strong lesson, Mr. Atkinson. One would hope that when the topic of funnels comes up again you will share your expertise. As I've shown logically, the results of your silence have been catastrophic to many, many lives. That's great, artguy. Next time, please remove rec.audio.tubes from your reply to list. You're way too brilliant for us. |
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The Amazing Arnie
Andre Jute said: Kellogg's doesn't make fennel flavored corn flakes? Here's what Arnii puts on his corn flakes instead of fruit: http://www.typetive.com/blogimages/blackjack-lg.jpg I don't get this. Why doesn't Krueger just get a mouthwash? Or is this the same old story, that no one likes Krueger enough to tell him the awful truth? Krooger does know the truth, but when he tried to order funnel-flavored mouthwash, they hung up on him. |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message .. . "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message .. . "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Surely you jest! If you think my posts are coarse Iain, I can't imagine what you think of those very many profanity-filled missives that fill Usenet. just like the ones in which you falsely accused numerous individuals of sending you kiddie porn via email. Prove that the accusations were false, if you can. For starters, I'll refer to your own posts, the ones where you claim you talked to MSP detectives who told you the images were not kiddie porn. Sorry Arty but you can't use my posts as authority, since you say I always lie. |
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Bret Ludwig exposed as a poser on the test bench!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message .. . "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message .. . "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Surely you jest! If you think my posts are coarse Iain, I can't imagine what you think of those very many profanity-filled missives that fill Usenet. just like the ones in which you falsely accused numerous individuals of sending you kiddie porn via email. Prove that the accusations were false, if you can. For starters, I'll refer to your own posts, the ones where you claim you talked to MSP detectives who told you the images were not kiddie porn. Sorry Arty but you can't use my posts as authority, since you say I always lie. Let's try and untwist your Kroologic. Did you lie when you said you spoke to MSP, or did you lie when you said the MSP told you your pictures were nont kiddie porn, or did you lie when you wer saying you had any prno pictures at all, or did you lie when you accused a variety of other people of sending he pictures to you, or did you lie when you said you ever got any porn pictures at all, or do you want to start a new lie and deny that you ever accused those people at all. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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