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good lavalier that terminates in 1/8"
I have a portable digital recorder that accepts 1/8" inputs. I want to
use it with a good lavalier microphone for personal recordings, but all the 1/8" terminating ones that I could find (from relatively respectable vendors) are either omnidirectional with really cheapo sound to noise ratios, or so cheap that you just know they're toys. I want to get one like the shure WL184 and WL185, but all the better ones terminate in the 4pin mini connectors or the mini-XLR 5 pin connectors. Those connections are for bodypacks for wireless systems, but I don't need to go wireless as the recorder is right in my pocket. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who might have needed something like this...but right now I'm a bit confused...are there mini transformers for something like this ... or another alternative? I've done some recording, setups, and mostly digital editing as an avocation, but I know that by putting something bad in the loop I'll just be adding hum and other unpleasantries...I'd appreciate any help for somebody who'd know how to do something like this...so basically any good lavalier setup that can record to a 1/8" input...thanks |
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"Jason Lavoie" wrote ...
the reason the WL184/185 comes with a multi-pin connector is that it needs bias voltage (not the same as phantom power) you can buy a unit from shure that will power the mic from a 9v battery and it gives you an XLR output (which could be adapted to 1/8") Note that virtually all consumer camcorders, computer sound-card mic inputs,and most portable digital recorders with 1/8" mic jacks supply the required "bias" voltage. Although "ActionNotMotion" crippled us by not disclosing exactly WHICH portable digital recorder he is asking about, chances are pretty good that he can select most any small lav-type microphone (even a $500 DPA, etc.) and it will run properly from his recorder if wired properly. |
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Thank you so much for all your answers...you definitely gave me
directions in which to go. As to the cross post: from groups.google.com i noticed that if I post the ORIGINAL question to two different groups any reply would be sent to both questions in both posts...so that would undo the non-niceness of people giving answers unknowing what others had typed. If I would post this to 30 groups at once then i'd get it, but I just did it to 2 or 3, because I didn't know what the response would be: it was really great, so I'll never do it more than 2 when I do it in these groups...thanks again. |
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good lavalier that terminates in 1/8"
the sennhieser ME-2 is respectable too, it has a 1/8" plug but it also
needs phantom power. |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:58:48 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote: "Jason Lavoie" wrote ... the reason the WL184/185 comes with a multi-pin connector is that it needs bias voltage (not the same as phantom power) you can buy a unit from shure that will power the mic from a 9v battery and it gives you an XLR output (which could be adapted to 1/8") Note that virtually all consumer camcorders, computer sound-card mic inputs,and most portable digital recorders with 1/8" mic jacks supply the required "bias" voltage. but the WL series expects bias on a separate wire.. can you just tie the two together? Jason |
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"Jason Lavoie" wrote ...
"Richard Crowley" wrote: "Jason Lavoie" wrote ... the reason the WL184/185 comes with a multi-pin connector is that it needs bias voltage (not the same as phantom power) you can buy a unit from shure that will power the mic from a 9v battery and it gives you an XLR output (which could be adapted to 1/8") Note that virtually all consumer camcorders, computer sound-card mic inputs,and most portable digital recorders with 1/8" mic jacks supply the required "bias" voltage. but the WL series expects bias on a separate wire.. can you just tie the two together? The wiring diagram is shown in this document... http://www.shure.com/pdf/userguides/...l184_wl185.pdf If it were me, I would connect the black wire and shield together and connect to the "sleeve" of the 1/8" phone plug, and connect the red wire to the "tip". But note that you could just as easily blow up the mic with this wiring scheme. Since we don't know what you are plugging this into, we are making wild guesses in complete darkness. Also since we don't know what your "digital recorder" is, it is quite possible that something like a WL-series mic is horrible overkill and a waste of money. Have you tried a $5 "computer mic"? I actually use them often for some of the things I do and they work remarkably well. |
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wrote in message ups.com... the sennhieser ME-2 is respectable too, it has a 1/8" plug but it also needs phantom power. Sennheiser used to do a mic similar to the ME-2 but with an in-line power supply....it used a small button cell and rotated the battery in and out of circuit as an on/off switch. Sorry...but I'm on the road as I type this and don't have my catalogues to hand. Bob |
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good lavalier that terminates in 1/8"
I have a portable digital recorder that accepts 1/8" inputs. I want to use it with a good lavalier microphone for personal recordings, but all the 1/8" terminating ones that I could find (from relatively respectable vendors) are either omnidirectional with really cheapo sound to noise ratios, or so cheap that you just know they're toys. I want to get one like the shure WL184 and WL185, but all the better ones terminate in the 4pin mini connectors or the mini-XLR 5 pin connectors. Those connections are for bodypacks for wireless systems, but I don't need to go wireless as the recorder is right in my pocket. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who might have needed something like this...but right now I'm a bit confused...are there mini transformers for something like this ... or another alternative? I've done some recording, setups, and mostly digital editing as an avocation, but I know that by putting something bad in the loop I'll just be adding hum and other unpleasantries...I'd appreciate any help for somebody who'd know how to do something like this...so basically any good lavalier setup that can record to a 1/8" input...thanks If your a real scavenger, look at a surplus cell phone hands free mike Bob Those are most likely smaller than 1/8", but cutting off the connector and adding a 1/8 is easy. I just did something similar with a pair of these mikes, got them on closeout at Best Buy for $3 each. -John O |
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