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Car Sub to Home Stereo
Hey... I just bought a $20 12" sub 700 watt on sale. Its kind of a
cheap one but that doesnt bother me. Hooked to my computer i have a 6 (5.1 same dif) channel Kenwood Amp, thats about 200 watt per channel and i do have a 5.1 channel sound card. All ive been mising is a sub. I know that there is no way it'll blow but my question is should i keep this one or get the 15" 1000 watt version for the same price, as well as does my amp have enough power to make the 15" sound decent or even the 12" one. This is kind of a crossover question so any help would be apreciated. My final question has do i buy a car sub box, or do i make my own, but more importantly do i aim the woofer out into the room or do i aim it at the floor. Thanks in advance for any help! |
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"Qwerty" wrote in message
m... Hey... I just bought a $20 12" sub 700 watt on sale. Its kind of a cheap one but that doesnt bother me. Hooked to my computer i have a 6 (5.1 same dif) channel Kenwood Amp, thats about 200 watt per channel and i do have a 5.1 channel sound card. All ive been mising is a sub. I know that there is no way it'll blow but my question is should i keep this one or get the 15" 1000 watt version for the same price, as well as does my amp have enough power to make the 15" sound decent or even the 12" one. This is kind of a crossover question so any help would be apreciated. My final question has do i buy a car sub box, or do i make my own, but more importantly do i aim the woofer out into the room or do i aim it at the floor. Thanks in advance for any help! I doubt that $20 sub can handle anything near 700 watts let alone 70. Automotive audio gear is often very overly rated by deceptive manufactures. Also be aware of the impedance of the speaker. Some car audio gear is rated 4 Ohms. Most consumer home audio gear may not handle a 4 Ohm load properly. John |
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I supose i should have been a bit more thurough, assuming kenwood isnt
lying to me it is 125 watt rms per channel as i just discoverd from their web site this morning. Its an older amp but it is still a pretty decent one (KM-Z1 model). The sub has two voice coils so rather than witre them as two channels i was gonna put them in series to get it from 4 to 8 ohms as the amp requires 6 or 8. Yeah the sub really isnt the greatest but i got it with a bunch of rebates and other offers, it was originally around $90 which still ist great but it is going into a dorm room which means im in school with a very small budget so the price was right. But now only one question remains, what type of box? Sealed, ported, or band pass and how precise do i have to be because im not that great at getting all the variables to do those proper calculations. If i kinda just guess and make it about the right size and make a hole for a port based of dimensions i took from boxes i measured in stores will i destroy the sound or would it be something only a true audiophile would notice? Sorry im a bit of a newbie but i like to try and do everything myself and learn as i go. Thanks! -Qwerty |
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"Qwerty" wrote in message m... I supose i should have been a bit more thurough, assuming kenwood isnt lying to me it is 125 watt rms per channel as i just discoverd from their web site this morning. Its an older amp but it is still a pretty decent one (KM-Z1 model). The sub has two voice coils so rather than witre them as two channels i was gonna put them in series to get it from 4 to 8 ohms as the amp requires 6 or 8. Yeah the sub really isnt the greatest but i got it with a bunch of rebates and other offers, it was originally around $90 which still ist great but it is going into a dorm room which means im in school with a very small budget so the price was right. But now only one question remains, what type of box? Sealed, ported, or band pass and how precise do i have to be because im not that great at getting all the variables to do those proper calculations. If i kinda just guess and make it about the right size and make a hole for a port based of dimensions i took from boxes i measured in stores will i destroy the sound or would it be something only a true audiophile would notice? Sorry im a bit of a newbie but i like to try and do everything myself and learn as i go. Thanks! -Qwerty If I was in your position, this is what I would do: I'd go with the 15" subs since they are the same price. If they turn out to sound God-awful, get some other 15" speakers somewhere else (ebay?). Your Kenwood should be able to drive them just fine (8 ohm) unless they have the worst efficiency known to man. I'd build the sub boxes myself, speakers pointed out, bass reflex design. (And cover the speaker with something to protect it... an exposed speaker WILL get dammaged in a dorm room environment - count on it!) In general for the sub boxes, bigger is better up to a point. I doubt you will hit that point due to the fact that they are going into a dorm room. Make them as big as you can (comfortably) and make it so you can adjust the port size somehow. This could be as complicated as a sliding panel (careful here...it can't vibrate), or as easy as a bunch of same size boards with different size cutouts that can bolt/screw onto the cab one at a time (not real pretty, but functional). Once in your room, you can "tune" the sub boxes to what sounds best to you. Good Luck! |
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
If there's too much cone excursion (distorts), you'll want a ported enclosure to load it down more. Uh ? Ported enclosures allow larger cone excursion than sealed ones ! Ported enclosures do *not* "load it down more" , whatever that piece of psuedo-science you meant by that ! Graham |
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Pooh Bear wrote: Kevin McMurtrie wrote: If there's too much cone excursion (distorts), you'll want a ported enclosure to load it down more. Uh ? Ported enclosures allow larger cone excursion than sealed ones ! Ported enclosures do *not* "load it down more" , whatever that piece of psuedo-science you meant by that ! Graham Resonance from a ported box loads down the speaker. When tuned correctly, it does greatly reduce cone excursion. If you tune a ported box incorrectly, then yes, it does cause more excursion. Grossly bad tuning is not much different from running the speaker in open air. Fortunately it's easy to tune a ported box by hacking off the inside end of the port off until resonance is correct. A sealed box can be used to control excursion too. The problem is that the poster doesn't know the speaker's parameters. Tuning by trial and error would be extremely difficult so he'd just have to live with the size being wrong. |
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
In article , Pooh Bear wrote: Kevin McMurtrie wrote: If there's too much cone excursion (distorts), you'll want a ported enclosure to load it down more. Uh ? Ported enclosures allow larger cone excursion than sealed ones ! Ported enclosures do *not* "load it down more" , whatever that piece of psuedo-science you meant by that ! Graham Resonance from a ported box loads down the speaker. When tuned correctly, it does greatly reduce cone excursion. The port only works at / around the port tuned frequency. Significantly below the port frequency it acts like a hole in the cabinet and LF excursion will be greater than IB equivalent. Since LF (over)excursion can cause damage, I thought it worth posting. If you tune a ported box incorrectly, then yes, it does cause more excursion. Grossly bad tuning is not much different from running the speaker in open air. Fortunately it's easy to tune a ported box by hacking off the inside end of the port off until resonance is correct. A sealed box can be used to control excursion too. The problem is that the poster doesn't know the speaker's parameters. Tuning by trial and error would be extremely difficult so he'd just have to live with the size being wrong. Errr - yes - that's seems like an argument in favour of avoiding porting when the speaker specs are unknown. Graham |
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