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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support BarackObama
Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view the possibility of America’s first black president? Not necessarily the way you think they would. By David Peisner If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and Obama camps probably haven’t factored in the following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size -- limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist -- but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup doesn’t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man. Tom Metzger Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance: www.resist.com Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was broken in a brawl. “The corporations are running things now, so it’s not going to make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He’s a warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person -- more dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black racists. I’ve got the quote right he ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s white race.’ The problem with Obama is he’s being dishonest about his racial views. I’d respect him if he’d just come out and say, ‘Yeah, I’m a black racist.’ I don’t hate black people. I just think it’s in the best interest of the races to be separated as much as possible. See, I’m a leftist. I’m not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far more than any black person.” Erich Gliebe Who: Chairman, National Alliance: www.natvan.com Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the nickname, “The Aryan Barbarian.” “Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he’s racially conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities, they’ve been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of the whites, knock some sense into them. They’ll see that non-white Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be racially conscious, to talk about their people or their community without being attacked as being racist. Let’s face it, white people aren’t going to fight for their causes, for their kind with a white president. I don’t think McCain even acknowledges that a white race exists. He’s all about granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us in wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that’s not a good thing. I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he’s not black enough.” Ron Edwards Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America: www.kkkk.net Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups by allowing non- Christians to join. “Obama, I think he’s a piece of ****. I don’t care that his mother was white. I don’t think he has enough brains to do anything good. All he’s living off of is the color of his skin to get elected. I don’t think America wants a black president. Most of them are too afraid to say that they believe the way I believe. They sit around their dinner table and talk the way I do, but when they get out in public, they have two faces and show the other face. When people are voting in the booth privately, they’ll vote Republican even if they’re a Democrat. If he wins, I’ll laugh. I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only one I can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m for. I’m afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too.” Yahanna Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical Knowledge Likes: Segregation Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture, Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr. Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C. spurred changes in the local noise ordinance. “Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for president was one of the saddest days in black history. Another legacy of black death is about to begin, just like it began back in the '60s with probably the greatest traitor to black people in modern-day history, Martin Luther King. Every black leader that has some form of power has given black people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to the white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to black people. Black people need to move away from the establishment and towards a moral change. As for Obama, first of all, he’s not even a black man in the terms of what real black people consider a black man. He’s of African and white descent. How easily he dismissed his affiliation with Reverend Wright, was a clear indication that this is a politician, not a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw away that Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away black people. He’s going to have to harm black people to make white people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better shot for black people.” Rocky Suhayda Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party: www.americannaziparty.com Likes: Hitler, white people Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.” “White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have ‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah.” http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feat...t-obama-061308 www.davidduke.com www.stormfront.org www.vnn.com |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
LOVE Europe HATE the EU added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ... Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view the possibility of America’s first black president? Not necessarily the way you think they would. By David Peisner If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and Obama camps probably haven’t factored in the following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size -- limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist -- but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup doesn’t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man. Tom Metzger Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance: www.resist.com Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was broken in a brawl. “The corporations are running things now, so it’s not going to make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He’s a warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person -- more dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black racists. I’ve got the quote right he ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s white race.’ The problem with Obama is he’s being dishonest about his racial views. I’d respect him if he’d just come out and say, ‘Yeah, I’m a black racist.’ I don’t hate black people. I just think it’s in the best interest of the races to be separated as much as possible. See, I’m a leftist. I’m not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far more than any black person.” Erich Gliebe Who: Chairman, National Alliance: www.natvan.com Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the nickname, “The Aryan Barbarian.” “Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he’s racially conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities, they’ve been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of the whites, knock some sense into them. They’ll see that non-white Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be racially conscious, to talk about their people or their community without being attacked as being racist. Let’s face it, white people aren’t going to fight for their causes, for their kind with a white president. I don’t think McCain even acknowledges that a white race exists. He’s all about granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us in wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that’s not a good thing. I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he’s not black enough.” Ron Edwards Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America: www.kkkk.net Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups by allowing non- Christians to join. “Obama, I think he’s a piece of ****. I don’t care that his mother was white. I don’t think he has enough brains to do anything good. All he’s living off of is the color of his skin to get elected. I don’t think America wants a black president. Most of them are too afraid to say that they believe the way I believe. They sit around their dinner table and talk the way I do, but when they get out in public, they have two faces and show the other face. When people are voting in the booth privately, they’ll vote Republican even if they’re a Democrat. If he wins, I’ll laugh. I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only one I can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m for. I’m afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too.” Yahanna Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical Knowledge Likes: Segregation Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture, Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr. Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C. spurred changes in the local noise ordinance. “Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for president was one of the saddest days in black history. Another legacy of black death is about to begin, just like it began back in the '60s with probably the greatest traitor to black people in modern-day history, Martin Luther King. Every black leader that has some form of power has given black people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to the white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to black people. Black people need to move away from the establishment and towards a moral change. As for Obama, first of all, he’s not even a black man in the terms of what real black people consider a black man. He’s of African and white descent. How easily he dismissed his affiliation with Reverend Wright, was a clear indication that this is a politician, not a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw away that Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away black people. He’s going to have to harm black people to make white people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better shot for black people.” Rocky Suhayda Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party: www.americannaziparty.com Likes: Hitler, white people Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.” “White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have ‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah.” http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feat...upport-obama-0 61308 www.davidduke.com www.stormfront.org www.vnn.com Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? But, black people don't hate all white people, huh? So, how do you explain the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into the 97%+ range? Are these black men and women racists or is it only possible for white folks to be racist? Now, take your own brand of bigotry and racism presented here and blow it up your ass. -- HP, aka Jerry "Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the right things" - Peter Drucker |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:31:59 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote:
LOVE Europe HATE the EU added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view the possibility of America’s first black president? Not necessarily the way you think they would. By David Peisner If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and Obama camps probably haven’t factored in the following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size -- limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist -- but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup doesn’t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man. Tom Metzger Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance: www.resist.com Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was broken in a brawl. “The corporations are running things now, so it’s not going to make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He’s a warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person -- more dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black racists. I’ve got the quote right he ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s white race.’ The problem with Obama is he’s being dishonest about his racial views. I’d respect him if he’d just come out and say, ‘Yeah, I’m a black racist.’ I don’t hate black people. I just think it’s in the best interest of the races to be separated as much as possible. See, I’m a leftist. I’m not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far more than any black person.” Erich Gliebe Who: Chairman, National Alliance: www.natvan.com Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the nickname, “The Aryan Barbarian.” “Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he’s racially conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities, they’ve been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of the whites, knock some sense into them. They’ll see that non-white Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be racially conscious, to talk about their people or their community without being attacked as being racist. Let’s face it, white people aren’t going to fight for their causes, for their kind with a white president. I don’t think McCain even acknowledges that a white race exists. He’s all about granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us in wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that’s not a good thing. I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he’s not black enough.” Ron Edwards Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America: www.kkkk.net Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups by allowing non- Christians to join. “Obama, I think he’s a piece of ****. I don’t care that his mother was white. I don’t think he has enough brains to do anything good. All he’s living off of is the color of his skin to get elected. I don’t think America wants a black president. Most of them are too afraid to say that they believe the way I believe. They sit around their dinner table and talk the way I do, but when they get out in public, they have two faces and show the other face. When people are voting in the booth privately, they’ll vote Republican even if they’re a Democrat. If he wins, I’ll laugh. I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only one I can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m for. I’m afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too.” Yahanna Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical Knowledge Likes: Segregation Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture, Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr. Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C. spurred changes in the local noise ordinance. “Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for president was one of the saddest days in black history. Another legacy of black death is about to begin, just like it began back in the '60s with probably the greatest traitor to black people in modern-day history, Martin Luther King. Every black leader that has some form of power has given black people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to the white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to black people. Black people need to move away from the establishment and towards a moral change. As for Obama, first of all, he’s not even a black man in the terms of what real black people consider a black man. He’s of African and white descent. How easily he dismissed his affiliation with Reverend Wright, was a clear indication that this is a politician, not a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw away that Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away black people. He’s going to have to harm black people to make white people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better shot for black people.” Rocky Suhayda Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party: www.americannaziparty.com Likes: Hitler, white people Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.” “White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have ‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah.” http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feat...upport-obama-0 61308 www.davidduke.com www.stormfront.org www.vnn.com Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? But, black people don't hate all white people, huh? So, how do you explain the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into the 97%+ range? Are these black men and women racists or is it only possible for white folks to be racist? Now, take your own brand of bigotry and racism presented here and blow it up your ass. Because your brand of bigotry and racism makes more sense? |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:31:59 GMT, in alt.atheism , "HEMI-Powered"
in wrote: [snip] Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? Wrong. But some people who see themselves as "White" dislike others because they see them as "Black". But, black people don't hate all white people, huh? Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? So, how do you explain the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into the 97%+ range? I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of us. Are these black men and women racists or is it only possible for white folks to be racist? Now, take your own brand of bigotry and racism presented here and blow it up your ass. -- Matt Silberstein Do something today about the Darfur Genocide http://www.beawitness.org http://www.darfurgenocide.org http://www.savedarfur.org "Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop" |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion
du jour ... Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? Wrong. But some people who see themselves as "White" dislike others because they see them as "Black". But, black people don't hate all white people, huh? Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? Being a bigot or racist is not limited to any particular race nor is it in any way related to the tone of one's epidermis. Nor should people vote strictly on the color of the candiates skin any more than their religion, national origin or other non- criteria. People should respect others for what they do and say and they should vote for men and women who represent their values and their views on the issues of the day. Period. To do anything else is the very essense of discrimination, bigotry and racism. So, how do you explain the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into the 97%+ range? I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of us. Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. Some say he is ****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you? Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would be a public outcry. -- HP, aka Jerry "Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the right things" - Peter Drucker |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists SupportBarack Obama
On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein
Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? .....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because they are not ethnically jewish. Thought I'd fill in for you there. Home truths suck don't they? |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote: Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? Wrong. But some people who see themselves as "White" dislike others because they see them as "Black". But, black people don't hate all white people, huh? Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? Being a bigot or racist is not limited to any particular race nor is it in any way related to the tone of one's epidermis. Nor should people vote strictly on the color of the candiates skin any more than their religion, national origin or other non- criteria. People should respect others for what they do and say and they should vote for men and women who represent their values and their views on the issues of the day. Period. To do anything else is the very essense of discrimination, bigotry and racism. Uh...where do you get off telling people how they should vote? If someone wants to vote solely on race that's their business and none of yours. I can't vote like that but I certainly don't think I should tell others how they should vote. Then again I'm not as smart as you are. So, how do you explain the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into the 97%+ range? I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of us. Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. Some say he is ****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you? Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would be a public outcry. So what? Again, that's none of anyone's business. |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, in alt.atheism , "HEMI-Powered"
in wrote: Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion [snip] I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of us. Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. It is not exactly sudden. He has been sending signals on this for months. And his part of a large number of long time Republicans/conservatives who are abandoning McCain and endorsing Obama. There is Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, ex-Gov William Weld, and Chris Buckley to name a few. I can give you more. So why is Powell's skin color what matters? Some say he is ****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you? Some say it is because space aliens mess with typesetting at the New York Times. I mean, "some say" is a garbage claim. Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would be a public outcry. Given that Obama is the first person with Black skin to run for president and McCain is like the 200th they would have a point. -- Matt Silberstein Do something today about the Darfur Genocide http://www.beawitness.org http://www.darfurgenocide.org http://www.savedarfur.org "Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop" |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:40:31 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism , For
Europeans in wrote: On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? ....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because they are not ethnically jewish. Really? I am not sure how this is relevant, but it certainly is false. Thought I'd fill in for you there. Home truths suck don't they? Truths? No. -- Matt Silberstein Do something today about the Darfur Genocide http://www.beawitness.org http://www.darfurgenocide.org http://www.savedarfur.org "Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop" |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:37:21 -0400, Matt Silberstein
wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, in alt.atheism , "HEMI-Powered" in wrote: Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion [snip] I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of us. Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. It is not exactly sudden. He has been sending signals on this for months. And his part of a large number of long time Republicans/conservatives who are abandoning McCain and endorsing Obama. There is Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, ex-Gov William Weld, and Chris Buckley to name a few. I can give you more. So why is Powell's skin color what matters? former Press Secretary Scott McClellan Some say he is ****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you? Some say it is because space aliens mess with typesetting at the New York Times. I mean, "some say" is a garbage claim. Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would be a public outcry. Given that Obama is the first person with Black skin to run for president and McCain is like the 200th they would have a point. |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:38:05 -0400, Matt Silberstein
wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:40:31 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism , For Europeans in wrote: On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? ....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because they are not ethnically jewish. Really? I am not sure how this is relevant, but it certainly is false. It had to be a bad joke. Thought I'd fill in for you there. Home truths suck don't they? Truths? No. |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists SupportBarack Obama
Huh...well those are perspectives I suppose.
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
"For Europeans" wrote from Goooooooogle
Groups... On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? ....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because they are not ethnically jewish. Thought I'd fill in for you there. Home truths suck don't they? Truth must mean something different on your planet. You think that if you post a blatant lie and call it the "truth" people will fall for it? What an idiot. Oh, and plonk, too. |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:52:06 +0300, "Richard Crowley"
wrote: "For Europeans" wrote from Goooooooogle Groups... On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How did you miss that? ....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because they are not ethnically jewish. Thought I'd fill in for you there. Home truths suck don't they? Truth must mean something different on your planet. You think that if you post a blatant lie and call it the "truth" people will fall for it? What an idiot. Oh, and plonk, too. If Faux News can do it he can too |
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Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
and all this crazy assed racist gun toting psycho christian garbage has what
to do with any of the target newsgroups? "Lookout" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:37:21 -0400, Matt Silberstein wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, in alt.atheism , "HEMI-Powered" in wrote: Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion [snip] I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of us. Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. It is not exactly sudden. He has been sending signals on this for months. And his part of a large number of long time Republicans/conservatives who are abandoning McCain and endorsing Obama. There is Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, ex-Gov William Weld, and Chris Buckley to name a few. I can give you more. So why is Powell's skin color what matters? former Press Secretary Scott McClellan Some say he is ****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you? Some say it is because space aliens mess with typesetting at the New York Times. I mean, "some say" is a garbage claim. Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would be a public outcry. Given that Obama is the first person with Black skin to run for president and McCain is like the 200th they would have a point. |
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