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Need help wiring speakers
This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I
have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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Alright, thank you. One more question, I can fit the speaker in, but it
doesn't look like any holes line up for the screws. Will I have to drill new holes in the plastic? I was tod and have read that my cars speaker size is 7", so I would need to get 6 3/4" and that 6 1/2" will work. Can I also pick up something to mount the speaker with? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:TZdTa.118169$ye4.86680@sccrnsc01... goto your local best buy or circuit city shop and pick up a speaker harness. It will adapt the factory speaker harness to your new speakers, it also helps with knowing which wire is positive and which is negative. They only cost like $5.99 a pair. Bring in your old factory speaker so the guys can get you the correct harness on your first visit. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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Well I went to wal-mart and an auto parts store, but neither had a speaker
harness. I have found one on the internet for $7 not including shipping. That seems pretty expensive when I could just cut the wires, splice them, and then have someone solder the wires to the new speaker. The nearest best buy or circuit city is over an hour away and I'm not planning on going for awhile. Is there another place that I could try? Radioshack? Electronics Express? Also, since the screws aren't lining up, will I need to get an adapter? Or should I try to drill new holes? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:TZdTa.118169$ye4.86680@sccrnsc01... goto your local best buy or circuit city shop and pick up a speaker harness. It will adapt the factory speaker harness to your new speakers, it also helps with knowing which wire is positive and which is negative. They only cost like $5.99 a pair. Bring in your old factory speaker so the guys can get you the correct harness on your first visit. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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If you are willing to solder you might do just as well to solder it
yourself. Soldering iron can be bought for under $10, and solder is cheap. Usually on new car speakers the two terminals you see are rectangular - the large one being the + and the small one being the - (ground). If you don't want to solder to the terminals directly you can buy spade connectors at Radio Shack, or some place like that and then use a crimper tool (about $10 again) to crimp the wire onto the spade connector and then just push the spade connector on to the speaker terminals (that is what most installation places do). You need to get the right size spades for the wire (usually 16-18 guage (AWG) ). The black wire is normally ground (-) and the red is +. If one of the wires has a white stripe on it, then this is the ground (-). Don't be afraid.....confidence is everything. Good luck "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Well I went to wal-mart and an auto parts store, but neither had a speaker harness. I have found one on the internet for $7 not including shipping. That seems pretty expensive when I could just cut the wires, splice them, and then have someone solder the wires to the new speaker. The nearest best buy or circuit city is over an hour away and I'm not planning on going for awhile. Is there another place that I could try? Radioshack? Electronics Express? Also, since the screws aren't lining up, will I need to get an adapter? Or should I try to drill new holes? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:TZdTa.118169$ye4.86680@sccrnsc01... goto your local best buy or circuit city shop and pick up a speaker harness. It will adapt the factory speaker harness to your new speakers, it also helps with knowing which wire is positive and which is negative. They only cost like $5.99 a pair. Bring in your old factory speaker so the guys can get you the correct harness on your first visit. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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mayhemkrew wrote:
Just hope you wired the speakers in phase. If not it'll sound like you are in a tunnel. Kinda off the topic, but is it me, or when speakers are out of phase, does it irritate your ears? Seriously, when I hear cars that customers tried to and speakers are out of phase, it just, I dunno bothers my ears in some weird way. I am VERY sensitive to out of phase speakers. I don't know how many shops I have been to that have wired some or all their speakers on the board backwards and I can tell within seconds. I then tell them their speakers out of phase and it usually ****es them off. I have had arguments with "salespeople" and they insist that there is nothing wrong. But like I said, my ears are hypersensitive. To me it is a hollow sound, or like something is missing out of the music. I guess tunnel like kinds also describes it. Just moving my head back and forth will confirm it. I do have some trouble hearing if my subs are out of phase with the fronts. It usually isn't as pronounced but after a little bit of listening it does become obvious. Maybe some people don't notice it as much as others. |
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I'm 100% sure that both speakers were wired to the same cord, however
picking the two was just an educated guess. There were two wires, one was black, the other was black w/ a white strip. I used the wire with the white strip as the negative and attached it to the bigger connector on the speaker. I wired the other side the same way. The speakers sound good (I'm guessing as good as a fairly cheap, $44, pair of speakers are going to get). However, I've never heard car speakers out of phase that I know of (I've heard my home theater speakers out of phase when testing them). Here's another question: On the box the speakers are advertised at 150 watts, but I'm guessing that's for both (75 a piece). My cd player has "40w x 4" on the front of it (it's a custom player, but I didn't install it, it was there when I bought the car, with no instructions). I have 6 speakers in the car (2 4" in the dash, 2 7" in the door, which I just replaced, and 2 7" in the back). Does this mean that each speaker is getting less than 40 watts, so I could crank the cd player as loud as it can go and still not screw up my new speakers? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message . net... If you wire one speaker one way, and the other speaker the opposite way, the speakers cancel each other out, giving you virtually no bass. I guess my intent on saying that was, how did you find out which wire was in fact postive from the Head Unit? "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Umm, I have no idea what you mean. As far as I can tell it doesn't sound like I'm in a tunnel. Could you explain what wiring it in phase means? I'm new. Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:ZKITa.117486$GL4.31021@rwcrnsc53... Just hope you wired the speakers in phase. If not it'll sound like you are in a tunnel. Kinda off the topic, but is it me, or when speakers are out of phase, does it irritate your ears? Seriously, when I hear cars that customers tried to and speakers are out of phase, it just, I dunno bothers my ears in some weird way. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Thanks, I put them in today. I went down to my local auto parts store (very rural area) and the guy recommended that I just slit the wires and use electrical tape to attach the speaker wire to the car wiring. I didn't think this was the best idea, but I decided I would go ahead and do it anyway. I also had to drill the holes in the plastic for the speaker to line-up. So it's working now, but I think I did it the least recommended way, so I hope it holds up. Thanks, Chris "Marc" wrote in message om... If you are willing to solder you might do just as well to solder it yourself. Soldering iron can be bought for under $10, and solder is cheap. Usually on new car speakers the two terminals you see are rectangular - the large one being the + and the small one being the - (ground). If you don't want to solder to the terminals directly you can buy spade connectors at Radio Shack, or some place like that and then use a crimper tool (about $10 again) to crimp the wire onto the spade connector and then just push the spade connector on to the speaker terminals (that is what most installation places do). You need to get the right size spades for the wire (usually 16-18 guage (AWG) ). The black wire is normally ground (-) and the red is +. If one of the wires has a white stripe on it, then this is the ground (-). Don't be afraid.....confidence is everything. Good luck "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Well I went to wal-mart and an auto parts store, but neither had a speaker harness. I have found one on the internet for $7 not including shipping. That seems pretty expensive when I could just cut the wires, splice them, and then have someone solder the wires to the new speaker. The nearest best buy or circuit city is over an hour away and I'm not planning on going for awhile. Is there another place that I could try? Radioshack? Electronics Express? Also, since the screws aren't lining up, will I need to get an adapter? Or should I try to drill new holes? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:TZdTa.118169$ye4.86680@sccrnsc01... goto your local best buy or circuit city shop and pick up a speaker harness. It will adapt the factory speaker harness to your new speakers, it also helps with knowing which wire is positive and which is negative. They only cost like $5.99 a pair. Bring in your old factory speaker so the guys can get you the correct harness on your first visit. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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You can always screw up your speakers with distortion and clipping. So no.
"Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... I'm 100% sure that both speakers were wired to the same cord, however picking the two was just an educated guess. There were two wires, one was black, the other was black w/ a white strip. I used the wire with the white strip as the negative and attached it to the bigger connector on the speaker. I wired the other side the same way. The speakers sound good (I'm guessing as good as a fairly cheap, $44, pair of speakers are going to get). However, I've never heard car speakers out of phase that I know of (I've heard my home theater speakers out of phase when testing them). Here's another question: On the box the speakers are advertised at 150 watts, but I'm guessing that's for both (75 a piece). My cd player has "40w x 4" on the front of it (it's a custom player, but I didn't install it, it was there when I bought the car, with no instructions). I have 6 speakers in the car (2 4" in the dash, 2 7" in the door, which I just replaced, and 2 7" in the back). Does this mean that each speaker is getting less than 40 watts, so I could crank the cd player as loud as it can go and still not screw up my new speakers? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message . net... If you wire one speaker one way, and the other speaker the opposite way, the speakers cancel each other out, giving you virtually no bass. I guess my intent on saying that was, how did you find out which wire was in fact postive from the Head Unit? "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Umm, I have no idea what you mean. As far as I can tell it doesn't sound like I'm in a tunnel. Could you explain what wiring it in phase means? I'm new. Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:ZKITa.117486$GL4.31021@rwcrnsc53... Just hope you wired the speakers in phase. If not it'll sound like you are in a tunnel. Kinda off the topic, but is it me, or when speakers are out of phase, does it irritate your ears? Seriously, when I hear cars that customers tried to and speakers are out of phase, it just, I dunno bothers my ears in some weird way. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Thanks, I put them in today. I went down to my local auto parts store (very rural area) and the guy recommended that I just slit the wires and use electrical tape to attach the speaker wire to the car wiring. I didn't think this was the best idea, but I decided I would go ahead and do it anyway. I also had to drill the holes in the plastic for the speaker to line-up. So it's working now, but I think I did it the least recommended way, so I hope it holds up. Thanks, Chris "Marc" wrote in message om... If you are willing to solder you might do just as well to solder it yourself. Soldering iron can be bought for under $10, and solder is cheap. Usually on new car speakers the two terminals you see are rectangular - the large one being the + and the small one being the - (ground). If you don't want to solder to the terminals directly you can buy spade connectors at Radio Shack, or some place like that and then use a crimper tool (about $10 again) to crimp the wire onto the spade connector and then just push the spade connector on to the speaker terminals (that is what most installation places do). You need to get the right size spades for the wire (usually 16-18 guage (AWG) ). The black wire is normally ground (-) and the red is +. If one of the wires has a white stripe on it, then this is the ground (-). Don't be afraid.....confidence is everything. Good luck "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Well I went to wal-mart and an auto parts store, but neither had a speaker harness. I have found one on the internet for $7 not including shipping. That seems pretty expensive when I could just cut the wires, splice them, and then have someone solder the wires to the new speaker. The nearest best buy or circuit city is over an hour away and I'm not planning on going for awhile. Is there another place that I could try? Radioshack? Electronics Express? Also, since the screws aren't lining up, will I need to get an adapter? Or should I try to drill new holes? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:TZdTa.118169$ye4.86680@sccrnsc01... goto your local best buy or circuit city shop and pick up a speaker harness. It will adapt the factory speaker harness to your new speakers, it also helps with knowing which wire is positive and which is negative. They only cost like $5.99 a pair. Bring in your old factory speaker so the guys can get you the correct harness on your first visit. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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Well is 40 x 4 for 6 speakers good? Or should I consider getting a new cd
player? I'd like to have one that plays MP3s anyway, if I could find one cheap. Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:VwdUa.145301$Ph3.18542@sccrnsc04... You can always screw up your speakers with distortion and clipping. So no. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... I'm 100% sure that both speakers were wired to the same cord, however picking the two was just an educated guess. There were two wires, one was black, the other was black w/ a white strip. I used the wire with the white strip as the negative and attached it to the bigger connector on the speaker. I wired the other side the same way. The speakers sound good (I'm guessing as good as a fairly cheap, $44, pair of speakers are going to get). However, I've never heard car speakers out of phase that I know of (I've heard my home theater speakers out of phase when testing them). Here's another question: On the box the speakers are advertised at 150 watts, but I'm guessing that's for both (75 a piece). My cd player has "40w x 4" on the front of it (it's a custom player, but I didn't install it, it was there when I bought the car, with no instructions). I have 6 speakers in the car (2 4" in the dash, 2 7" in the door, which I just replaced, and 2 7" in the back). Does this mean that each speaker is getting less than 40 watts, so I could crank the cd player as loud as it can go and still not screw up my new speakers? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message . net... If you wire one speaker one way, and the other speaker the opposite way, the speakers cancel each other out, giving you virtually no bass. I guess my intent on saying that was, how did you find out which wire was in fact postive from the Head Unit? "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Umm, I have no idea what you mean. As far as I can tell it doesn't sound like I'm in a tunnel. Could you explain what wiring it in phase means? I'm new. Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:ZKITa.117486$GL4.31021@rwcrnsc53... Just hope you wired the speakers in phase. If not it'll sound like you are in a tunnel. Kinda off the topic, but is it me, or when speakers are out of phase, does it irritate your ears? Seriously, when I hear cars that customers tried to and speakers are out of phase, it just, I dunno bothers my ears in some weird way. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Thanks, I put them in today. I went down to my local auto parts store (very rural area) and the guy recommended that I just slit the wires and use electrical tape to attach the speaker wire to the car wiring. I didn't think this was the best idea, but I decided I would go ahead and do it anyway. I also had to drill the holes in the plastic for the speaker to line-up. So it's working now, but I think I did it the least recommended way, so I hope it holds up. Thanks, Chris "Marc" wrote in message om... If you are willing to solder you might do just as well to solder it yourself. Soldering iron can be bought for under $10, and solder is cheap. Usually on new car speakers the two terminals you see are rectangular - the large one being the + and the small one being the - (ground). If you don't want to solder to the terminals directly you can buy spade connectors at Radio Shack, or some place like that and then use a crimper tool (about $10 again) to crimp the wire onto the spade connector and then just push the spade connector on to the speaker terminals (that is what most installation places do). You need to get the right size spades for the wire (usually 16-18 guage (AWG) ). The black wire is normally ground (-) and the red is +. If one of the wires has a white stripe on it, then this is the ground (-). Don't be afraid.....confidence is everything. Good luck "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... Well I went to wal-mart and an auto parts store, but neither had a speaker harness. I have found one on the internet for $7 not including shipping. That seems pretty expensive when I could just cut the wires, splice them, and then have someone solder the wires to the new speaker. The nearest best buy or circuit city is over an hour away and I'm not planning on going for awhile. Is there another place that I could try? Radioshack? Electronics Express? Also, since the screws aren't lining up, will I need to get an adapter? Or should I try to drill new holes? Thanks, Chris "mayhemkrew" wrote in message news:TZdTa.118169$ye4.86680@sccrnsc01... goto your local best buy or circuit city shop and pick up a speaker harness. It will adapt the factory speaker harness to your new speakers, it also helps with knowing which wire is positive and which is negative. They only cost like $5.99 a pair. Bring in your old factory speaker so the guys can get you the correct harness on your first visit. "Chris Fonville" wrote in message ... This is my first time installing speakers, so I'm new at the whole thing. I have taken my door panel off and have removed my old factory speakers. However, the wiring isn't the same (the factory speakers have the connections right beside each other in an L shape, while my new speakers have the two metal pieces separated about an inch). How should I go about wiring the new speakers? Will I have to cut the wire from the black connector? I don't have anything to solder with, so how would I attache the wires? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris |
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Chris Fonville wrote
Well is 40 x 4 for 6 speakers good? Maybe. The 40W rating is considered a Maximum and should not be used to decide how loud things will get, how high you can set the volume without clipping, nor how many speakers you can run 'properly'. If you listen to your system right now and are satisfied with the quality/quantity of music it gives you, then smile and enjoy. If you feel something is lacking, let us know, and we will try our best to explain how you can go about improving that area. Or should I consider getting a new cd player? That's entirely up to you. Given the cheap issue with getting another one, I can't imagine that you will see any improvements even if it claims to have more power (ie. 50W x 4) I'd like to have one that plays MP3s anyway, if I could find one cheap. Chris Perhaps something used? That would help keep the price down. |
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