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sound of a trumpet
What is the physics/acoustics of a wind instrument?
It's easy to see how a percussive surface vibrates, and induces acoustic waves at the same frequency. Ditto a string. But pushing air through a trumpet (sax, etc.), then out the bell - how does that create sound? And in particular, how does the valve action produce controllable wave sequences (a/k/a music)? It's just air on air, I'm at a loss to explain it. -- Rich |
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In the referenced article, RichD writes:
What is the physics/acoustics of a wind instrument? The best place to look is probably Neville Fletcher's work: http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/brassacoustics.html -- Qualcuno era comunista perché abbiamo il peggiore Partito Socialista d'Europa. Qualcuno era comunista perché lo Stato peggio che da noi solo l'Uganda. Michael Carley: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/ |
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On 12/9/10 11:19 AM, RichD wrote:
What is the physics/acoustics of a wind instrument http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...es/clocol.html http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...opecol.html#c2 http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...locol2.html#c1 |
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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message ... On 12/9/10 11:19 AM, RichD wrote: What is the physics/acoustics of a wind instrument http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...es/clocol.html This assumes a closed end, promoting only odd harmonics, http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...opecol.html#c2 This discusses closed and open ends, promoting odd-only as well as both odd and even harmonics. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...locol2.html#c1 This discusses the conical column as well, and I'm not sure I go along with his rationales as to why it behaves differently. I am told that clarinets and other tapered-bore wind instruments, do not emit even harmonics in their timbre. This implies that those instruments have the characteristics of a closed-end tube. My thought is that the conical bore acts as a barrier or reflector for a sound wave reflecting from the opening back into the bore because that closing bore impedes propagation back up said bore toward the tiny mouthpiece opening.. Ange. |
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Forgot about this one -
On Dec 9, "Angelo Campanella" wrote: What is the physics/acoustics of a wind instrument http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...es/clocol.html This assumes a closed end, promoting only odd harmonics, http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...opecol.html#c2 This discusses closed and open ends, promoting odd-only as well as both odd and even harmonics. This is what I don't get. How do you get a reflection from the open end? I can't picture that. It doesn't jibe with my (fading) memory of studying transmission lines, in EM, where you get standing waves, with a termination at each end. -- Rich |
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RichD wrote:
This is what I don't get. How do you get a reflection from the open end? I can't picture that. It doesn't jibe with my (fading) memory of studying transmission lines, in EM, where you get standing waves, with a termination at each end. No, you DON'T get standing waves with a termination at each end. If you short the end of the cable, you get an inverted reflection back. If you leave the end of the cable open, you get a non-inverted reflection back. ONLY if the cable is terminated into an impedance equal to the characteristic impedance of the line do you not get a reflection; the termination load appears like additional cable and the signal goes quietly into it as if it were so. The same thing happens with an open or closed organ pipe and creates the internal resonance of the pipe. In a trumpet it gets interesting.... because the bell of a trumpet is effectively an impedance-matching transformer.... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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