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FA: Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
Extremely Rare Electrostatic Loudspeaker.
Considered to be One of the Best Sounding Speakers Anywhere. This is a pair of Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 Series 3 full range electrostatic loudspeakers that I am selling. These have been my personal speakers for the past 25 years. They have served flawlessly over that time and have never been abused. The speakers are covered with the original Wheat colored fabric with rosewood veneer tops and bottoms. Package includes the black ST-300A matching transformer unit/bias supply. Also included are the manual and promotional brochures. All of the equipment is in excellent condition, is working properly and sounds phenomenally great. These speakers sold new for $3,500. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=14 993&rd=1 |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
Sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong...
I can't speak for the honesty of the seller or the condition of these speakers, of course... But the XG-8 is one hell of a speaker, especially when you have a big amp to drive them with. Not only are they 'stats, with the kind of sound that implies, but they can play cleanly at ridiculously high volume levels in large rooms. They're great for any kind of music. The $950 BIN price is too low for speakers of this quality. If I had the money, I'd buy them. In case you're wondering... Yes, I'm waiting for you-know-who to come out and make a further idiot of himself. "The Blue Book says the real value is $29.33 -- and the seller should pay shipping!" |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:58:18 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: But the XG-8 is one hell of a speaker, especially when you have a big amp to drive them with. I have to agree. I can remember visiting Leigh Instruments in Waterloo, Ontario to audition these speakers in a concrete bunker they built inside the factory. They were using a Dayton Wright 500 watt amp built by Leigh to drive them. I was blown away and would have bought a pair in a heartbeat if I could have found the cash. That being said like all electrostatic flat panels the sound drops away pretty smartly if you get beside or behind them so you'd want to ensure you have the kind of set up where they are against a wall firing directly towards the listening position. David "The Hamster" Malone |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
I was about 27 years old back in 1977 when I first heard these speakers. They were
extraordinary, and created a holographic transparent soundstage which I've yet to hear reproduced. Unfortunately, I've heard that reliability is not one of their strong points, and they use a very unusual gas in sealed bags...(something) hexaflouride. Might be difficult to find if needed for repair. But if someone is enterprising and finds a quality pair of XG-8's, they're in for an audio treat. "musicdude" wrote in message ... Extremely Rare Electrostatic Loudspeaker. Considered to be One of the Best Sounding Speakers Anywhere. This is a pair of Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 Series 3 full range electrostatic loudspeakers that I am selling. These have been my personal speakers for the past 25 years. They have served flawlessly over that time and have never been abused. The speakers are covered with the original Wheat colored fabric with rosewood veneer tops and bottoms. Package includes the black ST-300A matching transformer unit/bias supply. Also included are the manual and promotional brochures. All of the equipment is in excellent condition, is working properly and sounds phenomenally great. These speakers sold new for $3,500. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=14 993&rd=1 |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
Sulfur hexafluoride. It's not cheap, but it's commonly available because it's
used as an insulator in HV electrical systems. Completely non-toxic, but heavier than air, and therefore suffocating. I was about 27 years old back in 1977 when I first heard these speakers. They were extraordinary, and created a holographic transparent soundstage which I've yet to hear reproduced. Unfortunately, I've heard that reliability is not one of their strong points, and they use a very unusual gas in sealed bags... (something) hexaflouride. Might be difficult to find if needed for repair. But if someone is enterprising and finds a quality pair of XG-8's, they're in for an audio treat. |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
These particular Dayton Wright XG-8's are in excellent condition. While
they haven't been recharged with sulfur hexafloride gas (SF6) and are essentially filled with air like all other electrostatic speakers, they can be played to very high sound levels with all of the crispness and clarity that some other posters have mentioned. The SF6 would be necessary only if you wanted to run several Kilowatts of power into each speaker. Mere hundreds of watts is no problem. For more info see http://www.dayton-wright.com/ . These XG-8's are being auctioned on eBay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3034970 349 jav wrote: I was about 27 years old back in 1977 when I first heard these speakers. They were extraordinary, and created a holographic transparent soundstage which I've yet to hear reproduced. Unfortunately, I've heard that reliability is not one of their strong points, and they use a very unusual gas in sealed bags...(something) hexaflouride. Might be difficult to find if needed for repair. But if someone is enterprising and finds a quality pair of XG-8's, they're in for an audio treat. "musicdude" wrote in message ... Extremely Rare Electrostatic Loudspeaker. Considered to be One of the Best Sounding Speakers Anywhere. This is a pair of Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 Series 3 full range electrostatic loudspeakers that I am selling. These have been my personal speakers for the past 25 years. They have served flawlessly over that time and have never been abused. The speakers are covered with the original Wheat colored fabric with rosewood veneer tops and bottoms. Package includes the black ST-300A matching transformer unit/bias supply. Also included are the manual and promotional brochures. All of the equipment is in excellent condition, is working properly and sounds phenomenally great. These speakers sold new for $3,500. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=14 993&rd=1 |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
I have to disagree vehemently about the positive comments made about the
DW's. I speak as a past owner of 2 of the incarnations the Mk8/III and Mk10 that supposedly had all the problems fixed. the main problem, and Bill should know this, is the impedance miss match between the very dense SF6 and the air. It makes for reflections galore. On an A/B voice test, no one could recognize the speakers voice when played through the speakers. This is an intrinsic fatal flaw that these speakers possess. their impedance is horrendous, there are almost no amps out there below kilo$'s that will drive them. You will need the likes of a ML or if you are on a budget a Leach. The tweeters on the XG8 is a $5 piezzo..(Ok, I don't know the exact value).... give me a break. the later Mk10 incarnation at least had a Matsu****a leaf (NOT ribbon) tweeter. Anyone who thinks that these speakers gives an accurate presentation of what is recorded has WAX in the ears, period! BTW, I am not saying that they don't sound pleasant, hey I sound 'pleasant' singing in the shower (lots of reverb) but accurate it ain't... so sorry. In article , William Sommerwerck wrote: Sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong... I can't speak for the honesty of the seller or the condition of these speakers, of course... But the XG-8 is one hell of a speaker, especially when you have a big amp to drive them with. Not only are they 'stats, with the kind of sound that implies, but they can play cleanly at ridiculously high volume levels in large rooms. They're great for any kind of music. The $950 BIN price is too low for speakers of this quality. If I had the money, I'd buy them. In case you're wondering... Yes, I'm waiting for you-know-who to come out and make a further idiot of himself. "The Blue Book says the real value is $29.33 -- and the seller should pay shipping!" |
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Dayton Wright XG-8 Mk 3 ESL's
I heard the XGs on many occasions and, as someone who is horribly bothered by
colorations of any and every sort, never noticed this supposed problem. I understand exactly what you're talking about -- the speed of sound in SF6 being much slower than in air, there would be a significant reflection of energy at bag's surface. You might be right (ar, ar) about this. I'd have to listen to the XGs again to see whether I agreed. The original XGs sounded a bit dull, and D-W added a cheap Motorola piezo tweeter to extend the response. (Note that the well-respected Dahlquist DQ-10 used a similar driver.) I never heard the version with the "leaf" tweeter. As for the electrical impedance, I agree completely. The XG speakers have one of the worst impedance curves of any speaker ever designed. The impedance rises to over 100 ohms in the low bass, and drops to below 2 ohms (IIRC) in the upper midrange. You need an amp that can swing lots of voltage (as you would with most 'stats) while being able to pump a lot of current. At the store where I worked we had them running with a Swiss amplifier that couldn't provide that current, and you heard something you hardly ever hear from an amplifier -- current clipping. This is a speaker that needs the likes of a big Krell. Our customer bought two Crown DC-600 (or was it DC-1200?) industrial amplifiers, one for each speaker. Although the 600 used bridged output stages, it could itself be bridged (bridges on bridges!) to put out something like 1200 watts. It just laughed at the XGs. I have to say, you sound a bit like me criticizing Maggies... grin I have to disagree vehemently about the positive comments made about the DW's. I speak as a past owner of 2 of the incarnations, the Mk8/III and Mk10 that supposedly had all the problems fixed. The main problem, and Bill should know this, is the impedance missmatch between the very dense SF6 and the air. It makes for reflections galore. On an A/B voice test, no one could recognize the speaker's voice when played through the speakers. This is an intrinsic fatal flaw that these speakers possess. their impedance is horrendous, there are almost no amps out there below kilo$'s that will drive them. You will need the likes of a ML or if you're on a budget, a Leach. The tweeters on the XG8 is a $5 piezo. (Ok, I don't know the exact value)... give me a break. The later Mk10 incarnation at least had a Matsu****a leaf (NOT ribbon) tweeter. Anyone who thinks that these speakers gives an accurate presentation of what is recorded has WAX in the ears, period! BTW, I am not saying that they don't sound pleasant, hey I sound 'pleasant' singing in the shower (lots of reverb) but accurate it ain't... so sorry. |
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