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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
I prefer branded blanks (just because the printed lines are handy) but
it seems to be getting harder to find Mitsui branded gold discs. As a result, I'm probably going to move to either unbranded gold discs or to branded silver blanks. How much difference is there between these media? Mitsui claims a 300-year lifespan for gold vs. 100 years for silver, but since both use the same phthalocyanine base how are they truly different? Is gold less susceptible to laser rot than silver? Has anyone ever had a silver Mitsui disc go bad? Please respond to the group instead of to my spam bucket e-mail address. |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
At the Indiana University School of Music we probably go through about 5000
mitsui golds a year (about 1500 performances). They are our main format for archives now. My understanding is that the gold is less succeptable to breaking down due to sunlight. I'm sure there are other reasons. There are many books out there that discuss CD construction. I haven't heard of any problems from them, but its kinda too soon to tell. Check back in a century or so :-) www.cvanwinkle.com "SF" wrote in message om... I prefer branded blanks (just because the printed lines are handy) but it seems to be getting harder to find Mitsui branded gold discs. As a result, I'm probably going to move to either unbranded gold discs or to branded silver blanks. How much difference is there between these media? Mitsui claims a 300-year lifespan for gold vs. 100 years for silver, but since both use the same phthalocyanine base how are they truly different? Is gold less susceptible to laser rot than silver? Has anyone ever had a silver Mitsui disc go bad? Please respond to the group instead of to my spam bucket e-mail address. |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
These measurments of time on a cd are under perfect conditions also.Meaning
its never touched or played.In the real world I don't think they will last this long.But in 100 years it won't mater as there will be some new format long before then.The silvers will be fine. SF wrote in message om... I prefer branded blanks (just because the printed lines are handy) but it seems to be getting harder to find Mitsui branded gold discs. As a result, I'm probably going to move to either unbranded gold discs or to branded silver blanks. How much difference is there between these media? Mitsui claims a 300-year lifespan for gold vs. 100 years for silver, but since both use the same phthalocyanine base how are they truly different? Is gold less susceptible to laser rot than silver? Has anyone ever had a silver Mitsui disc go bad? Please respond to the group instead of to my spam bucket e-mail address. |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
In article , "Charles Van Winkle"
writes: At the Indiana University School of Music we probably go through about 5000 mitsui golds a year (about 1500 performances). They are our main format for archives now. My understanding is that the gold is less succeptable to breaking down due to sunlight. Sunlight? When does sunlight ever contact a CD? Garth~ "I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle." Ed Cherney |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
I should have said ultraviolet light. Sunlight was too ambiguous. The golds
also resist the effects of oxygen, moisture and solvents when compared to the silver. But the silver has a higher reflectivity. "Garthrr" wrote in message ... In article , "Charles Van Winkle" writes: At the Indiana University School of Music we probably go through about 5000 mitsui golds a year (about 1500 performances). They are our main format for archives now. My understanding is that the gold is less succeptable to breaking down due to sunlight. Sunlight? When does sunlight ever contact a CD? Garth~ "I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle." Ed Cherney |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
"Troy" wrote in
. ca: These measurments of time on a cd are under perfect conditions also.Meaning its never touched or played.In the real world I don't think they will last this long.But in 100 years it won't mater as there will be some new format long before then.The silvers will be fine. On a different slant, I don't like the Mitsui golds because the label side is not as smooth as it is on the silver CD's. I can't print as nice a label on the golds. |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
Hey, I just had that come up with a client. She had the only existing CD-Rs
of her festival recordings (I don't archive them all) and the one she supplied me wasn't but 6 months old but the Silver top (I know, it's not the substrate, but bare with me) had turned gold from sitting on a window ledge that only got marginal direct sunlight. The thing is, the stupid "pits" had deformed enough to cause crackling just like vinyl and made that disc, although transferrable, unusable for the live CD we were compiling. So, regardless, they do see some sunlight sometimes. Remember, with clients anything is possible, from extraordinary performances to some of the stupidest things you can think of. Putting your only master reference CD-R in harm's way is one of the stupid things. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio 301-585-4681 "Garthrr" wrote in message ... In article , "Charles Van Winkle" writes: At the Indiana University School of Music we probably go through about 5000 mitsui golds a year (about 1500 performances). They are our main format for archives now. My understanding is that the gold is less succeptable to breaking down due to sunlight. Sunlight? When does sunlight ever contact a CD? Garth~ "I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle." Ed Cherney |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
In article , "Roger W. Norman"
writes: So, regardless, they do see some sunlight sometimes. Remember, with clients anything is possible, from extraordinary performances to some of the stupidest things you can think of. Yeah now that you mention it I suppose that does happen. I had a client bring in a CDR of a mix we had done and it looked like he had been sanding it with coarse sandpaper. I cant even imagine how it got that scratched. Needless to say, it didnt play well. Garth~ "I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle." Ed Cherney |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
Try using a thumbpick.
They make a nice washboard for smooth jazz. --------------------------------------- "I know enough to know I don't know enough" |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
EggHd wrote:
Try using a thumbpick. They make a nice washboard for smooth jazz. Man, now you've invented a whole new gen Jacuzzi Jugband Jazz. Let's call Bill Bored! -- ha |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
Man, now you've invented a whole new gen Jacuzzi Jugband Jazz.
If that combo can't put you to sleep, nothing will. --------------------------------------- "I know enough to know I don't know enough" |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
EggHd wrote:
Man, now you've invented a whole new gen Jacuzzi Jugband Jazz. If that combo can't put you to sleep, nothing will. But it's all in the marketing, right? With their first few selections they get a free minidonut neckwrap lifepreserver, so they don't wind up like the "too many martinis in the 105 degree tub" club members. -- ha |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
But it's all in the marketing, right? With their first few selections
they get a free minidonut neckwrap lifepreserver, so they don't wind up like the "too many martinis in the 105 degree tub" club members. Free? This is upper demo. --------------------------------------- "I know enough to know I don't know enough" |
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Is Mitsui Gold CD-R really any better than Silver?
EggHd wrote:
But it's all in the marketing, right? With their first few selections they get a free minidonut neckwrap lifepreserver, so they don't wind up like the "too many martinis in the 105 degree tub" club members. Free? This is upper demo. We will need a theme for the repubs, too. And not free... -- ha |
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