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Reading about your band, I see you ARE a faggot. Hey, knock yourself out, I'm sure they love you
down at Clyde's Prime Rib. Ha Ha Ha!!!!I can't believe I've allowed myself to have a conversation with you, You're less than zero.. al Skip Elliott Bowman wrote: You poor, pitiful creature. No wonder you're (self-described) out of work--who'd want to hire someone with an attitude like yours? And it's self-evident you don't visit the musician boards too. I'll be bound you don't visit with other musicians either. Since you asked, this is me: http://www.oregonlive.com/music/oreg...4761279790.xml But don't bother responding, Alan; I won't see it. plonk "Alan Cassaro" wrote in message ... Skip Elliott Bowman wrote: " Except for the audio newsgroup, these are all musician boards. Last point, creep. I have never visited the musician boards, directly.If I ever have a question about musicians or playing, maybe I will. HOWEVER, I do have in interest in improving my recording techniques, hence I do visit the "rec.audio.pro" newsgroup, which is where I'm responding from as I write this. I'm responding to your post, which I see is cross posted to several groups. If you don't want my posts to show up on your group, sign on to the "rec.audio.pro" group, and write to me from there. Are you sure you're a musician? Do you qualify to be alive? Prove it. Is it true what that other poster wrote? You're a thief and a child molester? Prove that you're not a pedophile, I already know you're a stalker. Wow, a musical pedophile. Do you hang out with Michael Jackson?. al |
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Incredible, I expected that if I listed my "credentials", that there would probably be a group gangband, and so there it is. That's your game, right? You're a pack of hounds, without a clue as to what real rock and roll is. I can't speak for anyone else, but I sure don't have a clue as to what real rock and roll is. But what does that have to do with anything? Please at least remove rec.audio.pro from followups. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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#283
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Alan Cassaro wrote:
Incredible, I expected that if I listed my "credentials", that there would probably be a group gangband, and so there it is. That's your game, right? You're a pack of hounds, without a clue as to what real rock and roll is. Sorry, that our generation used up all the good music, and left you creeps with your pretentious "ROCK" music that Mr (two hundred thousand dollars per studio track) Springsteing does so well. Good luck in your Holiday Inn Gigs, guys, but I think we're getting a little off topic here. You assholes aren't my peers, my peers ALL laugh at Springsteen. Bruce is a joke, just as some of you clueless pricks are. Morons like you aren't worthy enough to kiss my ass. If you had(real) creds a simple Google would have turned them up but it didn't A legend in your own mind is what I see george |
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George Gleason wrote:
Alan Cassaro wrote: Incredible, I expected that if I listed my "credentials", that there would probably be a group gangband, and so there it is. That's your game, right? You're a pack of hounds, without a clue as to what real rock and roll is. Sorry, that our generation used up all the good music, and left you creeps with your pretentious "ROCK" music that Mr (two hundred thousand dollars per studio track) Springsteing does so well. Good luck in your Holiday Inn Gigs, guys, but I think we're getting a little off topic here. You assholes aren't my peers, my peers ALL laugh at Springsteen. Bruce is a joke, just as some of you clueless pricks are. Morons like you aren't worthy enough to kiss my ass. If you had(real) creds a simple Google would have turned them up but it didn't A legend in your own mind is what I see george Blue lights, Gotta get to Mobile? right up there with "Born to Run" Huh Here are your creds http://www.esquirerecords.com/citimusic/v.asp maybe I'll ask my engineering friends in clevland if anyone has heard of you |
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George Gleason wrote:
Alan Cassaro wrote: Incredible, I expected that if I listed my "credentials", that there would probably be a group gangband, and so there it is. That's your game, right? You're a pack of hounds, without a clue as to what real rock and roll is. Sorry, that our generation used up all the good music, and left you creeps with your pretentious "ROCK" music that Mr (two hundred thousand dollars per studio track) Springsteing does so well. Good luck in your Holiday Inn Gigs, guys, but I think we're getting a little off topic here. You assholes aren't my peers, my peers ALL laugh at Springsteen. Bruce is a joke, just as some of you clueless pricks are. Morons like you aren't worthy enough to kiss my ass. If you had(real) creds a simple Google would have turned them up but it didn't A legend in your own mind is what I see george Found a few more of your wolrd famous Creds http://www.rockabilly.nl/reviews/alanleatherwood.htm I guess you can put Sir Paul to shame LOL G |
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"George Gleason" wrote in message ... Alan Cassaro wrote: Incredible, I expected that if I listed my "credentials", that there would probably be a group gangband, and so there it is. That's your game, right? a pack of hounds, And you sir, are a singular sphincter, one without peer even in the wilds of Arizona. You're without a clue as to what real rock and roll is. White folks playing R&B. You might want to see a therapist about your anger and unsubstantiated grandiosity issues. Or perhaps you can find gainful employment keeping hot air balloons aloft. |
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I saw that Brit Blues thang. You are right on.
Don't worry about clowns like "Flamenco Skip" Rob Schuh can tell you just how much of a musician he is! As for the nostagia producer choice thing. I can understand Don Everly's attitude. It's real easy for a musician who had a big hit and has slipped in popular appeal to get some of the PBS producers to pull up the milking stool to nostalgia as a cash cow like PBS does. Sure making money to live is OK and probably beats the Holiday Inn lounges all to hell. BUT. Take a guy like Satchmo. The guy not only stayed as current as yesterday to his last breath but also never "played it just like it was on the (hit) record". And even further he didn't need a bunch of new "songs" to make hits. he would take any old standard and use his talent to turn it into a smash. To me THAT is where it's at. I HATE cover stuff. Even if you are exploiting yourself. Benj |
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Alan Cassaro wrote:
Reading about your band, I see you ARE a faggot. Anybody who cannot figure out how to stop crossposting should just put their head back up their ass and shut the **** up. I am talking about _you_, homophobic returd. -- ha |
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Alan Cassaro wrote:
Good luck in your Holiday Inn Gigs, guys Next time you're in Boise ID, hit the Holiday Inn and see if you can keep up with the players. I already know the answer to that one. You could no more hold down a Holiday Inn gig than you could cut tracks alongside Springsteen. The only thing keeping you from being a legend in your own mind is your complete lack of a mind. -- ha |
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Benj, have you ever played with Schuh? Have you ever met him, face to face?
I know neither of you've ever met me, let alone heard me play (you'd never say something like that to my face, especially if you'd heard me play), so I don't see how you can pass judgment on my abilities. If you actually knew anything about Louis Armstrong (who calls him "Satchmo" anymore? Not musicians), you wouldn't be making such sweeping generalizations about him. Not that you don't have a right to your opinion, as long as you remember that it's just your opinion; however ill-informed. It doesn't surprise me that you, Schuh, and this Allan get along so well. Misery loves company, eh? This is my last post responding to this hijacked thread. You can have the last word. howldog, let's not feed the trolls. wrote in message oups.com... I saw that Brit Blues thang. You are right on. Don't worry about clowns like "Flamenco Skip" Rob Schuh can tell you just how much of a musician he is! As for the nostagia producer choice thing. I can understand Don Everly's attitude. It's real easy for a musician who had a big hit and has slipped in popular appeal to get some of the PBS producers to pull up the milking stool to nostalgia as a cash cow like PBS does. Sure making money to live is OK and probably beats the Holiday Inn lounges all to hell. BUT. Take a guy like Satchmo. The guy not only stayed as current as yesterday to his last breath but also never "played it just like it was on the (hit) record". And even further he didn't need a bunch of new "songs" to make hits. he would take any old standard and use his talent to turn it into a smash. To me THAT is where it's at. I HATE cover stuff. Even if you are exploiting yourself. Benj |
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As a first generation rocker, I'm also a big fan of McCartney's and most other
first generation rockers. It was great to do shows with Chuck Berry, Jack Scott, The Ventures, Tommy Roe, but I guess you had to be there. It was cool to sing at Ryman's Grand Old Opry as a guest of Marty Robbin's, and it was nice to be drawing a weekly check as a staff writer at Charlie Rich's company. Hell, I even got to be in a movie. Except for a few assholes I've discovered while posting some musical opinions on the internet, life is pretty ****ing sweet. and oh, unless I forget, Springsteen still sucks. al George Gleason wrote: George Gleason wrote: Alan Cassaro wrote: Incredible, I expected that if I listed my "credentials", that there would probably be a group gangband, and so there it is. That's your game, right? You're a pack of hounds, without a clue as to what real rock and roll is. Sorry, that our generation used up all the good music, and left you creeps with your pretentious "ROCK" music that Mr (two hundred thousand dollars per studio track) Springsteing does so well. Good luck in your Holiday Inn Gigs, guys, but I think we're getting a little off topic here. You assholes aren't my peers, my peers ALL laugh at Springsteen. Bruce is a joke, just as some of you clueless pricks are. Morons like you aren't worthy enough to kiss my ass. If you had(real) creds a simple Google would have turned them up but it didn't A legend in your own mind is what I see george Found a few more of your wolrd famous Creds http://www.rockabilly.nl/reviews/alanleatherwood.htm I guess you can put Sir Paul to shame LOL G |
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Alan Cassaro wrote:
As a first generation rocker, I'm also a big fan of McCartney's and most other first generation rockers. It was great to do shows with Chuck Berry, Jack Scott, The Ventures, Tommy Roe, but I guess you had to be there. It was cool to sing at Ryman's Grand Old Opry as a guest of Marty Robbin's, and it was nice to be drawing a weekly check as a staff writer at Charlie Rich's company. Hell, I even got to be in a movie. Except for a few assholes I've discovered while posting some musical opinions on the internet, life is pretty ****ing sweet. and oh, unless I forget, Springsteen still sucks. al So you had a pretty average career working with "slightly" better than average talent why the bitterness? If you can't see where "Incident on 57th street" or "Spirits in the Night" and "for you" evokes all the passion and imagery , easily comparable to "el Paso' and FAR outstripping that"pink carnation" crap MR put out Oh and Tommy roe, a Humperdink wanna be, LOL Did chuck ever pay his keyboard player for writing his guitar parts, last I heard , NO. sorry you hate music I happen to love CB, MR Bruce, bob, the cars, rage against the machine, tom waite, doc Watson, and walter carlos as well as thousands of others I am privledged to work with th greats, the near greats, the were greats and the ingrates I know you fit in there "someplace" George |
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Les Cargill wrote:
"It's all folk music. Ever see a horse try to play?" - Doc Watson. Doc rocks. -- ha |
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Trivia note: a video of Barry McGuire performing on Hullabaloo, circa 1965, has him doing live vocals to pre-recorded instruments. Also rather a bizarre setting-- junked cars and dancers in black. What weirded out era. Love it. Even more weirded out: the Mamas and the Papas, totally lip-synched, with go-go dancers popping out of bathtubs to do this very strange motion like batting away attacking flying ferrets while waxing a car with your butt. What demented studio executive blessed this concept? -- |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:50:09 GMT, Dan Stanley
wrote: On 9 Feb 2005 13:38:48 -0800, wrote: As for the nostagia producer choice thing. I can understand Don Everly's attitude Don explained well from BOTH points of view. In the interview, he even mentioned going to see Little Richard and wanting to hear him play "Tutti Frutti" or whatever...the hits. It's the Ricky Nelson "Garden Party" thing. Sure, as a musician you might want to play only new and interesting stuff, "please yourself". But if you've had a career with any length, a good number of the folks who are coming to see you are *paying* to hear some of the songs that helped you to be a musician with a career of any length. I heard a radio interview with . . someone . . maybe Sedaka? Who called it, "The Contractural Obligation Medley." |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message .. . Les Cargill wrote: "It's all folk music. Ever see a horse try to play?" - Doc Watson. Doc rocks. He does, but the original quote (which has been attributed to everyone from Doc to Louis Armstrong) came from Big Bill Broonzy. Asked whether blues was folk music he said, "It must be folk music. I never heard no horses play it." According to Sam Hinton, this was one of his favorite lines in the late 40s - early 50s. Peace, Paul |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:33:29 -0800, play_on wrote:
He used to literally rock, too, back when he played a Les Paul. Al Really? I'd like to hear some of that. Any recordings still extant? Bob |
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And will someone PLEASE help Keef get them fishing lures out of his hair? Where did you expect a guy without a hat to keep them? ==================== Tracy Wintermute Rushcreek Ranch ==================== |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
In article writes: "It's all folk music. Ever see a horse try to play?" - Doc Watson. Did Doc really say that? Pete Seeger said "Ever hear a horse sing?" years before any of us heard of Doc. -- I'm really Mike Rivers ) However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over, lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo I dunno. It's a good one-liner, even if it's wrong  -- Les Cargill |
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Les Cargill wrote:
Mike Rivers wrote: In article writes: "It's all folk music. Ever see a horse try to play?" - Doc Watson. Did Doc really say that? Pete Seeger said "Ever hear a horse sing?" years before any of us heard of Doc. A horse is a horse of course,unless that horse is of course, the famous Mr. Ed WILBUR!!!!!!! g |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:57:54 GMT, George Gleason
wrote: A horse is a horse of course,unless that horse is of course, the famous Mr. Ed Who, bizarrely enough, was not a horse, or even a "he". So they say... Chris Hornbeck |
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Roger W. Norman wrote: The fallacy of the Beatles being able to perform live what they'd accomplished in the studio is that that didn't just have the fab four in the studio, hence, they could have accomplished what they'd recorded if they'd given it a try. Again, the major came into play and wanted all the dollars they could garner, and the rest is history. That history being The Moody Blues coming up with a live Nights of Blue Satin and the Beatles couldn't come up with Julia. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:50:39 -0600, "jakdedert" wrote: wrote: On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 03:28:45 -0500, "Blues_Jam" wrote: "Tony Ennis" wrote in message news:BypDd.816$lU6.119@attbi_s02... I think the expectation that the performance must match the CD is too great, and the artists and their management don't want to wedge their CD sales. I have always ascribed to the same philosophy the Allman Brothers Band allways had and that is "Do only in the studio what you can do live." I used to ascribe to that philosohy as well. The thing is use as an example The Beatles Sgt. Pepper album. No way on Gods green earth four guys are gonna pull that off live. I think what we have is two different approches here. When in the studio play what is best for the song not whether or not you can pull it off live. When playing live make the nessesary adjustments to pull it off live. A few subtle changes here and there will make it possible to pull off the studio tune live. Of course you won't get all the nuances or instrmentation of the studio version but, a great musician will make do just fine. There is room for all kinds of live performances. As another poster suggested, adding musicians if a possibility. Lets say I want to go see my favorite power trio Kings X. I don't want to see them with more musicians. I want to see them pull off their huge three part harmonies, thick guitar parts ,monster bass sound along with their complex yet melodic melodies as a three piece live while matching their studio stuff in the process. They do suceed as well as they are brilliant musicians. Some acts actually do gigs which are 'enhanced' versions of music they've recorded. Elton John, and the numerous shows he's done with full symphonic backing, comes to mind. Sequencing (some) keyboard parts and playing along with...is that considered 'cheating' by purists? IMHO sequencing is cheating. It is no different than playing to tapes. Some studio complex tracks sound great when 'stripped down' to play out, like in the 'Unplugged' series; except with no acoustic restriction. It depends on musicianship and the song. I don't want to hear vocal backing tracks of any kind, myself...but that's just me. If you need additional voices, hire 'em. I say if you need voices sing them yourself if possible. I am with you on the backing tracks. I agree, however that recording any kind of 'lead'--be it vocal or instrumental--and passing it off as live is cheating...actually passing *anything* off as live is cheating. Deception sucks. Yep. Regards Mike AGH..thanks for reminding me of another oine. The excellent Moody Blues.. NIGHTS IN WHITE (that is the PORPER color) SATIN 1967/72 (another belated track issue-five years after it was a LP song it was released to single,shrotened from 8 to 5 minutes) |
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