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I need help from the specialists on this group.


Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.

Thank you for your help.
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 21:05:35 +0000, lid wrote:

I need help from the specialists on this group.


Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.

Thank you for your help.


Whatever programme you are using for the conversion, just let it use
its default settings. It will work just fine.

d
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On 1/3/2020 4:05 PM, lid wrote:
I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono


If you take Don's advice to use the defaults (and his advice is
perfectly reasonable) you'll likely end up with a stereo file with the
same audio on both channels. There's nothing wrong with that other than
that the file is twice as big as it needs to be. So if you want a mono
MP3 file, you'll need to find the setting for it.

As far as bit rate is concerned, 128 kbps is roughly equivalent in
quality to a high quality cassette, though distortion characteristics
are different. Sadly, that's good enough for most listeners, and better
than a good many of them get through streams and downloads. In many
listening tests, all but the most skilled listeners, when comparing a CD
with a 192 kbps 44.1 or 48 kHz MP3 file, can't accurately identify which
is which.

When I make MP3 files to listen to in my car or on a plane, I use 128
kbps. I usually use Audacity by importing the WAV file, then exporting
it as an MP3. It gives you the choice of stereo or mono and a choice of
bit rates. I don't think it converts sample rate (you can't import a
44.1 kHz WAV file and export it as a 48 kHz MP3).

Bit rate can either be fixed (64, 128, 192, 256, etc kbps) or variable.
Variable can provide slightly better fidelity - the encoder gives you a
little extra resolution when it thinks it's advantageous, but saves
space by not running at a high bit rate all the time. I use fixed bit
rates because I know everything can play them.

So for "plenty good enough" use 128 kbps, fixed rate, or for the peanut
gallery, they won't know the difference, other than in time it takes to
download or space it takes on a drive, between 64 and 128 kbps.


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On Fri 03/01/2020 21:05, lid wrote:
I need help from the specialists on this group.


Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.

Thank you for your help.

Download Audacity - its free and will do everything you need.

Import the wav file, highlight it all, got to Tracks/Mix/Mix stereo down
to mono, then export the finished product and set the bit rate to
whatever you want at that point. Job done.

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Real Player Converter is also good - if still available.

Converts WAV, AIFF, etc to MP3, etc.

I've had it for nearly ten years, but since the last five years,
it converts video files only to audio, for some reason.


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I need help from the specialists on this group.


Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.


This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer
will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the
codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as
transparent as possible.

It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering
engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen.

My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just
use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't
be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made
in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for.
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It very much depends on the reason you are compressing it.
If its mono and does not need to be very good, just passable then the lower
bit rates work fine. However you can get some good results using variable
bit rate mp3 that sound less gritty than the normal ones do.
I'd convert it several times and decide for yourself. Audacity or Goldwave
might be handy tools but if you have a good codec pack installed on the pc
its usually those which do the work.
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Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.

Thank you for your help.



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You can also change the sample rate down on Goldwave, and I'd actually
suggest 192kbits for reasonable stuff, but if you want quality avoid mp3,
use Flac but this does have issues as not all devices can play them due to a
much larger memory demand at decode time.
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On 1/3/2020 4:05 PM,
lid wrote:
I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono


If you take Don's advice to use the defaults (and his advice is perfectly
reasonable) you'll likely end up with a stereo file with the same audio on
both channels. There's nothing wrong with that other than that the file is
twice as big as it needs to be. So if you want a mono MP3 file, you'll
need to find the setting for it.

As far as bit rate is concerned, 128 kbps is roughly equivalent in quality
to a high quality cassette, though distortion characteristics are
different. Sadly, that's good enough for most listeners, and better than a
good many of them get through streams and downloads. In many listening
tests, all but the most skilled listeners, when comparing a CD with a 192
kbps 44.1 or 48 kHz MP3 file, can't accurately identify which is which.

When I make MP3 files to listen to in my car or on a plane, I use 128
kbps. I usually use Audacity by importing the WAV file, then exporting it
as an MP3. It gives you the choice of stereo or mono and a choice of bit
rates. I don't think it converts sample rate (you can't import a 44.1 kHz
WAV file and export it as a 48 kHz MP3).

Bit rate can either be fixed (64, 128, 192, 256, etc kbps) or variable.
Variable can provide slightly better fidelity - the encoder gives you a
little extra resolution when it thinks it's advantageous, but saves space
by not running at a high bit rate all the time. I use fixed bit rates
because I know everything can play them.

So for "plenty good enough" use 128 kbps, fixed rate, or for the peanut
gallery, they won't know the difference, other than in time it takes to
download or space it takes on a drive, between 64 and 128 kbps.


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I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
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Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.

Thank you for your help.



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I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
Brian


Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.

According to;

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.

This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.


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wrote:
I need help from the specialists on this group.


Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.


This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer
will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the
codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as
transparent as possible.

It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering
engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen.

My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just
use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't
be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made
in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for.
--scott



To hell with MP3s.

Nowadays storage memory is cheap and huge. I just rip CDs to ALAC on an
iPod via the worst ever audio program (iTunes), and convert to FLAC for
my phone which has far bigger SD card capacity than my 64GB iPod.

The mono thing can be achieved at the ALC-FLAC (or whatever target
format) stage with whichever software (in my case Sound Forge).

geoff
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2020-01-04 10:49 lid:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
Brian


Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.

According to;

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.

This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.


So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer
MP3 codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks
like an MP3 encoded by whatever codec.
In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright
stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3
ending will be good enough for any browser.

If you´re using Windows, try https://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lamedrop.php
- of course the latest version, not the original one from 2001.
No installation required, just unpack the .exe and start it.
A *small* window will open, right click this for encoding options.

Suggested settings - probably more than required, but the safest bet
possible:
- (x) Bitrate, "Enter Target Bitrate: 320", check "Restrict to Constant
Bitrate (CBR)
- Encoding Engine Quality: HIGH, if applicable check "Mono Encoding"
- leave *all* other settings UNchecked
- Accept

Next, right click the window again for "Tagging setup" and UNcheck
everything.

By default, output directory = input directory.

Now, drag and drop your source file onto the LameDropXPd window to start
encoding - the target file will be the same file name as the input .WAV
but with .MP3 ending

hint: all those settings will be written to a .ini file in the same
directory and the .exe and used every time for new encoding sessions.

Sounds like a lot of parameters? In my experience still the least effort
compared to any other MP3/LAME encoder I´ve tried during the last 20
years and much easier than using Audacity or Goldwave just for the LAME
encoder.

Good luck with your quest!
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On 1/4/2020 3:56 AM, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.


Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the
most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some
people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because
they don't know what it is.


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Mike Rivers wrote:

Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity,
it's the most common audio file format and just about everyone
can play it. Some people might balk at downloading or trying
to play a WAV file because they don't know what it is.


WAV sure would make things a lot easier!

What I'd like to know is why, when I double click MP3 files of songs in Windows
Vista to play them in Windows Media Player, it takes 3-5min. to start playing?

A WAV, no problem. Double click the file, Media Player opens, starts playing the
song within two seconds.


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On 04/01/2020 16:35, Mike Rivers wrote:
Maybe it's going out to a few web sites to see if the music is stolen? I
use WinAmp (yes, it's old) and it plays just about anything, real
snappy. And the best feature for me - and I've looked for this in other
media players and haven't found it - is the Bookmarks. I save the URL of
streaming radio stations that I like to listen to and can get to them
straight from WinAmp without having to open a real web browser.

It was a real shame when support for Winamp was discontinued after the
original team were bought out.

Luckily, versions for Windows and Android are still available if you search.

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On 04/01/2020 09:49, lid wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
Brian


Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.

According to;

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.

This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.

Your questions/concerns are overkill for what you want.

As others already said there are plenty of free programs with which the
conversion to a perfectly adequate mp3 file is a trivial task. If you
prefer you can even do it online:
https://online-audio-converter.com/

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On 1/4/2020 3:56 AM, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
sounds like somebody trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.


Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the
most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it. Some
people might balk at downloading or trying to play a WAV file because
they don't know what it is.


Absolutely. I think HTML5's AUDIO element doesn't allow WAV for MS
Internet Explorer and Edge. I'm not sure about this and will follow up
when I have some information.
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Phil W wrote:

So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer
MP3 codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks
like an MP3 encoded by whatever codec.
In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright
stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3
ending will be good enough for any browser.


The LAME encoder today is actually likely to sound better than the
Fraunhofer encoder on any particular material.

There was a time when the Fraunhofer encoder was a clear win with material
that had wider dynamic range and limited high frequency content, while the
LAME encoder was usually a win for material with limited dynamic range but
more high end. But things have changed and although there are still some
tracks that do better with the Fraunhofer encoder, most are likely to do
better with LAME if properly set.
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To hell with MP3s.


Yup.

The mono thing can be achieved at the ALC-FLAC (or whatever target
format) stage with whichever software (in my case Sound Forge).


I tend to use 'sox' for audio conversions, inc those to flac. IIRC when
given a 'mono content in a stereo wave file' it tends to generate a flac
file of much the same size regardless of if you tell it to output a mono (
1 channel) or stereo ( 2 channels) flac result. Seems able to detect that
the two input patterns are the same and make use of that.

May not work when converting a 'stereo' capture of an old mono LP with
loads of background noise, though, as the noise won't be the same in both
channels.

Use sox because I often symultaneously use it to do other conversions when
not starting with a CD rip.

Jim

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Maybe to share. While MP3 doesn't offer the highest fidelity, it's the
most common audio file format and just about everyone can play it.


Given that many decent DAPs, etc, support better codecs, that's a pretty
sad fact if true. Bit like finding that most people still use shellac 78s!

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Yes but the file itself seems to have no purpose at all.
I know that you can make a wav file into an html email using mime as I used
to do this very thing to annoy people.
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I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody
trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some
noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
Brian


Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.

According to;

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.

This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.



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I understand that at present the accessibility guidelines say that no sound
should be started by the loading of a web page as the person using a
screenreader will not know how to stop the sound to be able to hear their
speech.
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 08:56:08 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody
trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some
noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
Brian


Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.

According to;

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.

This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.


So, you do not really need a file encoded with the original Fraunhofer MP3
codec, which is not available for free, but just a file, that looks like
an MP3 encoded by whatever codec.
In such cases a LAME (=Lame Ain´t an MP3 Encoder, because of copyright
stuff) encoder with whatever program and the generated file with a .mp3
ending will be good enough for any browser.

If you´re using Windows, try https://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lamedrop.php
- of course the latest version, not the original one from 2001.
No installation required, just unpack the .exe and start it.
A *small* window will open, right click this for encoding options.

Suggested settings - probably more than required, but the safest bet
possible:
- (x) Bitrate, "Enter Target Bitrate: 320", check "Restrict to Constant
Bitrate (CBR)
- Encoding Engine Quality: HIGH, if applicable check "Mono Encoding"
- leave *all* other settings UNchecked
- Accept

Next, right click the window again for "Tagging setup" and UNcheck
everything.

By default, output directory = input directory.

Now, drag and drop your source file onto the LameDropXPd window to start
encoding - the target file will be the same file name as the input .WAV
but with .MP3 ending

hint: all those settings will be written to a .ini file in the same
directory and the .exe and used every time for new encoding sessions.

Sounds like a lot of parameters? In my experience still the least effort
compared to any other MP3/LAME encoder I´ve tried during the last 20 years
and much easier than using Audacity or Goldwave just for the LAME encoder.

Good luck with your quest!





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Yes the lame conversion system is almost universally used these days as its
free and nowadays is not any worse than the posh paid for variety.
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I've just looked at the file. Its very short and sounds like somebody
trying
to record something with the microphone inside a backpack next to some
noisy
machinery. What on earth is the point in making it into an mp3, its very
short already and unless its some alien communication it seems a trifle
useless.
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Can you embed a WAV file in an HTML web page? Obviously you can embed
an MP3 file in a web page, but I think you can't with a WAV.

According to;

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

you cannot use an AUDIO element for a WAV for IE/Edge.

This is adquate reason for converting to MP3.

Your questions/concerns are overkill for what you want.

As others already said there are plenty of free programs with which the
conversion to a perfectly adequate mp3 file is a trivial task. If you
prefer you can even do it online:
https://online-audio-converter.com/



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Windows Vista ?!!!!


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Overall, works fine. Just a little slower overall than when new, but that Media
Player behavior when asked to play MP3s has been like that only the last
few years. Before that, it would play any music file format within three seconds
of clicking on it(except AIFF of course - need QT for that).
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Windows Vista ?!!!!


geoff


Overall, works fine. Just a little slower overall than when new, but that Media
Player behavior when asked to play MP3s has been like that only the last
few years. Before that, it would play any music file format within three seconds
of clicking on it(except AIFF of course - need QT for that).


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Scott Dorsey wrote:
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I need help from the specialists on this group.


Please download and examine the following WAV file;

http://www.c-compiler.com/myfiles/stgeorges-201219.WAV

I want to convert this to an MP3 file.

Please tell me what settings I should use for the MP3 file, eg; MP3
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional), attributes eg 128
kbit/sec, 48.000 Hz, Mono

Please try to give specfic advice, because my understanding of audio
formats is poor, and I need guidance as to the best MP3 parameters for
this conversion.


This is basically what a mastering engineer does. The mastering engineer
will listen to different codecs and make encoding adjustments (each of the
codecs has several hundred settings) in order to get the encoding as
transparent as possible.

It sounds to me like you are asking someone to do the job of a mastering
engineer for you, without paying them. This is not likely to happen.

My suggestion is that if you don't care about streaming that you just
use the highest bit rate available, use the LAME encoder, and it won't
be horrible. If you care about streaming and want compromises to be made
in a reasonable fashion, you will get what you pay for.
--scott


I've roundtripped thru the LAME encoder at -V 1 ( the next to highest
quality setting ) and the resulting delta isn't that significant. This
may be program material sensitive.

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John Williamson wrote:
On 04/01/2020 16:35, Mike Rivers wrote:
Maybe it's going out to a few web sites to see if the music is stolen? I
use WinAmp (yes, it's old) and it plays just about anything, real
snappy. And the best feature for me - and I've looked for this in other
media players and haven't found it - is the Bookmarks. I save the URL of
streaming radio stations that I like to listen to and can get to them
straight from WinAmp without having to open a real web browser.

It was a real shame when support for Winamp was discontinued after the
original team were bought out.

Luckily, versions for Windows and Android are still available if you
search.


They went on to found REAPER, so it wasn't all bad. I have an old
version of WinAmp, and it seems to work great.

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John Williamson wrote:
Luckily, versions for Windows and Android are still available if you
search.


They went on to found REAPER, so it wasn't all bad. I have an old
version of WinAmp, and it seems to work great.

I'm using the last version of Winamp to support a tape restoration
plugin I use from time to time.

I rely on my firewall and security suite to keep the malware at bay.

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John Williamson wrote:
On 05/01/2020 19:23, Les Cargill wrote:
John Williamson wrote:
Luckily, versions for Windows and Android are still available if you
search.


They went on to found REAPER, so it wasn't all bad. I have an old
version of WinAmp, and it seems to work great.

I'm using the last version of Winamp to support a tape restoration
plugin I use from time to time.

I rely on my firewall and security suite to keep the malware at bay.


Dunno what to tell you - the install I have from donkey's years ago
shows no infection, and hasn't for a very long time.

I suspect the reputation for infections it gained
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Windows Vista ?!!!!


geoff


Overall, works fine. Just a little slower overall than when new, but that Media
Player behavior when asked to play MP3s has been like that only the last
few years. Before that, it would play any music file format within three seconds
of clicking on it(except AIFF of course - need QT for that).


If Vista works at all, it's a miracle worthy of a call to the Pope.
--scott


You'd think if anybody was hell-bent on sticking with a legacy Win OS it
would be XP(64).

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You'd think if anybody was hell-bent on sticking with a legacy Win OS it
would be XP(64).


geoff



So far, so smooth! If it ain't broke, geoff, why f- with it? Like I explained earlier,
it's only Media Player with the issue: Plays WAVs almost instantaneously, but over
the last 5-6 years of the 14 I've been running it, it takes forever to start playing MP3s.
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I rely on my firewall and security suite to keep the malware at bay.


Dunno what to tell you - the install I have from donkey's years ago
shows no infection, and hasn't for a very long time.

I suspect the reputation for infections it gained
was from script kiddies uploading infected versions.

I'm not worried, and in 30 years of PC usage, the only malware I have
suffered from came on a floppy disc fro work.

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If Vista works at all, it's a miracle worthy of a call to the Pope.


You'd think if anybody was hell-bent on sticking with a legacy Win OS it
would be XP(64).


Indeed. I know a lot of people still using XP to run Pro Tools, and it
isn't the most wonderful thing in the world but it's stable. Everyone I
know that tried Vista for studio applications very quickly went back to
XP. Thank God for Clonezilla!
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On 06/01/2020 00:05, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Indeed. I know a lot of people still using XP to run Pro Tools, and it
isn't the most wonderful thing in the world but it's stable. Everyone I
know that tried Vista for studio applications very quickly went back to
XP. Thank God for Clonezilla!
--scott

XP is fine as long as it has either no live internet connection or a
decent security suite running, and as it has been going out of use, very
few new exploits are about, as the return on writing them makes it not
worth the effort.

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On 6/01/2020 9:25 pm, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
I would have thought there was little danger of an issue. After all, the
file type has been around since the early 1990s to my knowledge and is
basically a pcm file. Other compressed formats can be used to hide things
in.
Brian


MP3 file a PCM file ? Um, no.

geoff
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