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Mark wrote:
My favorites are those little teflon sticks being sold to audiofools to support speaker cables up off and away from the lossy dielectric plastic fibers in your carpet. Actually, those are just to make it easier to vacuum clean the carpet. -- ha |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message .. . Mark wrote: My favorites are those little teflon sticks being sold to audiofools to support speaker cables up off and away from the lossy dielectric plastic fibers in your carpet. Actually, those are just to make it easier to vacuum clean the carpet. NO.... You can't vacuum the carpet! The motor in the vacuum cleaner creates an electromagnetic field that will cause you to have to go out and spend $100,000 on little miracle devices to clean that horrible magnetic mess off of your entire stereo system.... if the salesman doesn't convince you first that you have to just replace the whole thing. You've 'exposed' the electrons to confusion and they're... um... well, confused! |
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"Mike Diack" wrote in message
.. . And the winner is..... http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc? Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=V OLUME&Product_Count=2 Man, you beat me to it. |
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"Steven Sullivan" wrote in message
... The most outrageous and shameless snake-oil site I've been pointed to recently is: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ I think that site wins. I especially like this about the "intelligent chip": "If left on top of the player, the Chip will not function until the next disc to be upgraded is inserted in the player and played. If you attempt to upgrade a disc that has already been upgraded, the Chip will "sense" that the disc is already upgraded and spend no energy on it, thus avoiding using the Chip unnecessarily. Always store the Chip in its protective case, well away from the player." |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:44:27 -0500, Boris Mohar
wrote: On 3 Mar 2005 05:43:04 -0800, "Agent_C" wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Here is my partial collection. About 0.01% of what is out there. http://www.amusicdirect.com/products...380&sku=AAQEV8 http://gallery.consumerreview.com/au...es/opus-mm.asp http://www.bybeetech.com/ ** Ahhh yes, those infamous Bybee Filters that use cooper pairs in a room temperature supercondutctor that know the bad electrons from the good electrons...... You can to the list, anything by Jon Risch. Regards, Bruce Hitting reply is futile, use the following: ). |
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Dave Platt wrote: In article , dt king wrote: In theory, a patented invention must be "useful", "novel", and "non-obvious". Most would say that "useful" requires that it actually work, at least to some extent. It used to be the case, long ago, that you had to actually build at least a working model and be able to demonstrate that the device worked. They say one of the simplest patents ever granted was for the number 1.65. It was granted to Phillip H. Smith as the optimum diameter ratio for a coaxial transmission line. Neat - that's the ratio which gives the lowest loss per weight/cost of materials given standard (WW II) dielectrics, right? It is a common mis-conception, but dielectric loss is not significant for most coax cables at frequencies below a few GHz. The copper losses are by far dominant. Teflon dielectric reduces cable loss because it allows the use of a thicker center conductor which reduces copper loss. http://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedia/Coaxloss.cfm Mark |
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There was a guy who wanted to spend $350 billion dollars getting rid of
WMD's somewhere. I heard he did very well. Lately, he's offering to improve everyone's pension plans! Jerry G. wrote: A number of years ago, I have seen something called a "CD Demagnetizer". Yet, there is nothing magnetic about an optical CD. The seller of this, really did some fancy explanations about this one. |
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wrote in message
oups.com Steven SullivanTweako amp designer Mark Levinson has been touting those 'results' for some years now...most recently in a published 'roundtable' in The Absolute Sound. The polite silence from the other members of the roundtable was rather telling...even TAS has its limits. " I don't think Mark Levinson actually designs I think he's a marketer. I know he's famous for a sex manual he wrote with wife Kim Cattrall. I should say ex-wife... who buys a sex manual from a married couple who broke up?? You might find this interesting, relevant and perhaps even a little explanitory: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...roduct-details "Anyways, yes the movie is entitled LIVE NUDE GIRLS, and yes all the leading ladies in this movie ARE in fact nude in this movie. Men, especially myself find this movie very compelling to watch as it has the unbelieveably HOT Dana Delany in it, as sexy as ever. It also includes the equally hot Kim Catrall." Somehow references to this flick don't seem to show up at: http://www.danadelany.com/news.htm ...but maybe I'm missing something. |
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In rec.audio.tech Mr.T MrT@home wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I know he's famous for a sex manual he wrote with wife Kim Cattrall. I should say ex-wife... who buys a sex manual from a married couple who broke up?? Even worse is buying a relationship manual like "Women are from Mars, Men are from Venus" (or is it vice versa?) from someone who is divorced :-) And got his PhD from a degree mill. And gives new meaning to the word misogyny. |
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That looks like one of the ones I saw! I know of someone who bought one for
$20. Naturally he found no difference, other than that it looked impressive on his phone. Everyone was asking him what it was. After a lengthy explanation we were all laughing all the time. One thing of interest is that he met his wife with it, because it made for a good conversation at a local bar. He bought her one while they were dating. It was funny to see that. There was also one that looked like a little lady-bug. The women went for that one. -- Jerry G. ===== "Richard Crowley" wrote in message ... "Jerry G." wrote ... There is another little gadget that I have not seen for a while. This one is the cell phone bug. It is supposed to reduce dangerous radiation, and give better reception. It looks like a little bug that the user sticks on to his or her phone, located near to the antenna. I wonder if this one was pulled from the market. http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bi....cgi?item=PA-5 |
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That sounds interesting. I assume that antenna does not matter with this
gadget! In fact where the speaker is, the radiation is of the least. It is at the antenna where most of the radiation comes from. Obstructing the antenna in any way will worsen the performance of the phone. -- Jerry G. ===== "play on" wrote in message ... On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:28:09 -0800, "Richard Crowley" wrote: "Jerry G." wrote ... There is another little gadget that I have not seen for a while. This one is the cell phone bug. It is supposed to reduce dangerous radiation, and give better reception. It looks like a little bug that the user sticks on to his or her phone, located near to the antenna. I wonder if this one was pulled from the market. http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bi....cgi?item=PA-5 Yeah that's the antenna, but there is another product that you would stick over the little speaker that was supposed to protect your brain waves from the cell phone waves. Al |
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You have to be careful with such jokes. Some scammer may find it interesting
and use it! -- Jerry G. ===== wrote in message oups.com... Here is one I made up once: WAVE ENHANCE is an antispurious ion wave charged aerosol spray to improve the acoustic wave transmission in any normal listening room. Just spray this special aerosol formula before any intense listening session and you won't believe the improvement in sound wave transmission. Deeper lows, smoother mids and oh such sweet highs that give you the tingles. Many high end speaker manufacturers were spraying their listening rooms with our spray at the last CES. Only $12.99 per 12 oz can. OK, this was JUST A JOKE for all you guys who debate speaker wire and cable sound! Hope you enjoyed it. Now for some SERIOUS used audio deals please visit: http://members.aol.com/KDresch/audio.net.html |
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In article .com,
Mark wrote: Neat - that's the ratio which gives the lowest loss per weight/cost of materials given standard (WW II) dielectrics, right? It is a common mis-conception, but dielectric loss is not significant for most coax cables at frequencies below a few GHz. The copper losses are by far dominant. Teflon dielectric reduces cable loss because it allows the use of a thicker center conductor which reduces copper loss. http://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedia/Coaxloss.cfm Understood! However, the decreased losses come at a significant cost disadvantage - the Teflon dielectric is more expensive, and the thicker center conductor uses more metal and is thus both heavier and more expensive. My recollection is that the 1.56 diameter ratio (and a 52-ohm characteristic impedance) were selected because this placed the cable design in a "sweet spot" in the "RF loss per dollar spent making the cables" curve. Again if I recall properly (possibly not) this occurred during World War II, when the wartime economy required producing the military equipment as cost-efficiently as possible. Lower losses are certainly possible, using different characteristic impedances and different dielectrics, but (if I understand the story right) the materials and prices available back in the era in question were such that the lower-loss coaxial cable designs were restricted in their application. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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http://www.rfcafe.com/references/ele...of_50_ohms.htm
There are probably lots of stories about how 50 Ohms came to be. The one I am most familiar goes like this. In the early days of microwaves - around World War II, impedances were chosen depending on the application. For maximum power handling, somewhere between 30 and 44 Ohms was used. On the other hand, lowest attenuation for an air filled line was around 93 Ohms. In those days, there were no flexible cables, at least for higher frequencies, only rigid tubes with air dielectric. Semi-rigid cable came about in the early 50's, while real microwave flex cable was approximately 10 years later. Somewhere along the way it was decided to standardize on a given impedance so that economy and convenience could be brought into the equation. In the US, 50 Ohms was chosen as a compromise. There was a group known as JAN, which stood for Joint Army and Navy who took on these matters. They later became DESC, for Defense Electronic Supply Center, where the MIL specs evolved. Europe chose 60 Ohms. In reality, in the US, since most of the "tubes" were actually existing materials consisting of standard rods and water pipes, 51.5 Ohms was quite common. It was amazing to see and use adapter/converters to go from 50 to 51.5 Ohms. Eventually, 50 won out, and special tubing was created (or maybe the plumbers allowed their pipes to change dimension slightly). Further along, the Europeans were forced to change because of the influence of companies such as Hewlett-Packard which dominated the world scene. 75 Ohms is the telecommunications standard, because in a dielectric filled line, somewhere around 77 Ohms gives the lowest loss. (Cable TV) 93 Ohms is still used for short runs such as the connection between computers and their monitors because of low capacitance per foot which would reduce the loading on circuits and allow longer cable runs. Volume 9 of the MIT Rad Lab Series has some greater details of this for those interested. It has been reprinted by Artech House and is available. |
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In rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.marketplace , on Fri, 04 Mar
2005 10:27:15 -0500, Bill Van Dyk wrote: There was a guy who wanted to spend $350 billion dollars getting rid of WMD's somewhere. I heard he did very well. Lately, he's offering to improve everyone's pension plans! I recall his contribution to the field of audio. It was the words "Can you hear me now?" Jerry G. wrote: A number of years ago, I have seen something called a "CD Demagnetizer". Yet, there is nothing magnetic about an optical CD. The seller of this, really did some fancy explanations about this one. ----- http://mindspring.com/~benbradley |
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Agent_C wrote:
I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Here is a cool device from Rane: http://www.rane.com/pi14.html make sure to download the PDFs. Peter |
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wrote in message ps.com... Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Here is a cool device from Rane: http://www.rane.com/pi14.html make sure to download the PDFs. Peter but this is a harmless (and hilarious) spoof. not true snake oil at all |
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"Jerry G." wrote in message ... A number of years ago, I have seen something called a "CD Demagnetizer". Yet, there is nothing magnetic about an optical CD. The seller of this, really did some fancy explanations about this one. Another one that I see from time to time, are AC cords for several hundred dollars that are supposed to make the sound more accurate, and have less noise. But, when questioned about the electrical system in the house, the seller of these did a lot of skating around the question. Many years ago, another one I saw was a special flashlight that should be shined on CD disk before playing it. The idea was to neutralize any optical noise patterns that can be formed on the disk. This special flashlight was selling for about $100. The replacement lamps were $10, and the enhanced batteries were something like $20 each. There is another little gadget that I have not seen for a while. This one is the cell phone bug. It is supposed to reduce dangerous radiation, and give better reception. It looks like a little bug that the user sticks on to his or her phone, located near to the antenna. I wonder if this one was pulled from the market. remember the "CD stabilizer rings" ? here is one that isn't necessarily a scam.... but $30K for a cello audio suite? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7100 694&rd=1 |
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lordy, it never ends.. http://www.soundstage.com/weaver04.htm (I've read tthat the green pen tweaks started as an online hoax.... taken as truth by some gullible audiophile...and the rest is history. I haven't been able to trace the story back far enough to verify that) -- -S It's not my business to do intelligent work. -- D. Rumsfeld, testifying before the House Armed Services Committee |
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and here's more about the Armour-All tweak brouhaha -- perhaps Mr. Atkinson can comment on its accuracy. http://www.soundstage.com/weaver06.htm -- -S It's not my business to do intelligent work. -- D. Rumsfeld, testifying before the House Armed Services Committee |
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In rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.marketplace , on Sat, 5 Mar
2005 13:28:27 -0500, "TimPerry" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Here is a cool device from Rane: http://www.rane.com/pi14.html make sure to download the PDFs. Peter but this is a harmless (and hilarious) spoof. not true snake oil at all I dunno about that, it looks like a blatant ripoff of the origial Funk Logic equipment. I think there could be a lawsuit here. Check out Mr. Logic's products on his webpage: http://www.funklogic.com ----- http://mindspring.com/~benbradley |
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In rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.marketplace , on Fri, 04 Mar
2005 10:27:15 -0500, Bill Van Dyk wrote: There was a guy who wanted to spend $350 billion dollars getting rid of WMD's somewhere. I heard he did very well. Lately, he's offering to improve everyone's pension plans! I recall his contribution to the field of audio. It was the words "Can you hear me now?" Jerry G. wrote: A number of years ago, I have seen something called a "CD Demagnetizer". Yet, there is nothing magnetic about an optical CD. The seller of this, really did some fancy explanations about this one. ----- http://mindspring.com/~benbradley |
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"Ben Bradley" wrote in message ... In rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.marketplace , on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:28:27 -0500, "TimPerry" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Here is a cool device from Rane: http://www.rane.com/pi14.html make sure to download the PDFs. Peter but this is a harmless (and hilarious) spoof. not true snake oil at all I dunno about that, it looks like a blatant ripoff of the origial Funk Logic equipment. I think there could be a lawsuit here. Check out Mr. Logic's products on his webpage: http://www.funklogic.com like the Motorola "pushie talkie" (a mobile 2-way mounted to a hand truck with auto batteries) its a lampoon intended as humor not an attempt to defraud anyone. heres a jar with a ball in it http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...5793477 &rd=1 is it worth $65,000 ? |
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Steven Sullivan wrote in
: In rec.audio.tech Paul Stamler wrote: Some of you may be old enough to remember the "deltoid test" flap. In the early days of digital recording, a clinical psychologist (was his name Diamond?) claimed that digital recordings agitated his patients, while analog recordings calmed them. He proved that by employing the "deltoid test", borrowed from chiropractic. Tweako amp designer Mark Levinson has been touting those 'results' for some years now...most recently in a published 'roundtable' in The Absolute Sound. The polite silence from the other members of the roundtable was rather telling...even TAS has its limits. You picked up on that too? Levinson was ignored by the other members for most of the discussion. It was really funny/sad. Levinson would say something and it was as if he didn't exist. Now either the other panelists couldn't stomach his wacky theories or he is such an annoying, officious, arrogant rip-off artist that no one on the panel could stand him. Let's face it, his rebadged cheap Chinese amp scam is pitiful. r |
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"scott" wrote in :
One of my personal favorites...oh yeah....these look like a good investment...not! Tekna Sonic C-5 BookShelf Speaker Enhancer - Pair $79.95 Even the finest speakers have cabinet vibrations that make bass notes muddy or boomy, and distort the midrange. Now Tekna Sonic offers a simple solution guaranteed to improve bass and midrange clarity. C-5 vibration absorbers feature an array of polymer damping plates - selectively tuned to frequencies in the 20-1kHz range - which attach magnetically to the back of the speaker cabinet. This begs the qustion of how one magnetically attaches anything to a wood cabinet. r "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message ... How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... "Agent_C" wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C |
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"play on" wrote in message
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:44:27 -0500, Boris Mohar wrote: http://www.amusicdirect.com/products...=280&sku=AELEV Nice... I especially like the cable elevators, quite reasonable at $159. The cheapskate alternative is telephone line insulators. I've seen and uhhh, "heard" them in *action* ;-) |
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"scott" wrote in message
... One of my personal favorites...oh yeah....these look like a good investment...not! Tekna Sonic C-5 BookShelf Speaker Enhancer - Pair $79.95 Even the finest speakers have cabinet vibrations that make bass notes muddy or boomy, and distort the midrange. Now Tekna Sonic offers a simple solution guaranteed to improve bass and midrange clarity. C-5 vibration absorbers feature an array of polymer damping plates - selectively tuned to frequencies in the 20-1kHz range - which attach magnetically to the back of the speaker cabinet. Hmm... I've never heard of these things but large enough lead weights screwed onto the mid-point of front, top and sides of cheap speakers would definitely lower the fundamental "oil can" mode of cabinet vibration. Of course, they would look awful... g Solution: brace inside properly. Cheers, Roger |
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Rich.Andrews wrote:
This begs the qustion of how one magnetically attaches anything to a wood cabinet. Why do think Ironwood is so expensive? -- ha |
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On 2005-03-04 19:43:36 +1100, "Ricky Hunt" said:
"Steven Sullivan" wrote in message ... The most outrageous and shameless snake-oil site I've been pointed to recently is: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ I think that site wins. I especially like this about the "intelligent chip": "If left on top of the player, the Chip will not function until the next disc to be upgraded is inserted in the player and played. If you attempt to upgrade a disc th Yeah, and I've heard that if you put the chip in the microwave for 30 seconds, on High, you can recharge it! Think of all the money I'll save not having to buy more of them! |
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On 2005-03-04 11:13:55 +1100, Mike Diack said:
And the winner is..... http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc? Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=V OLUME&Product_Count=2 Yep, if you will spend nearly $500 on one of these, you're a stirling, rockheaded knob... hence the product's name... |
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C'mon man, what are you doing? There's no snake-oil whatsoever in
anything you've just written! On 2005-03-05 12:02:22 +1100, said: http://www.rfcafe.com/references/ele...of_50_ohms.htm There are probably lots of stories about how 50 Ohms came to be. The one I am most familiar goes like this. In the early days of microwaves - around World War II, impedances were chosen depending on the application. For maximum power handling, somewhere between 30 and 44 Ohms was used. On the other hand, lowest attenuation for an air filled line was around 93 Ohms. In those days, there were no flexible cables, at least for higher frequencies, only rigid tubes with air dielectric. Semi-rigid cable came about in the early 50's, while real microwave flex cable was approximately 10 years later. Somewhere along the way it was decided to standardize on a given impedance so that economy and convenience could be brought into the equation. In the US, 50 Ohms was chosen as a compromise. There was a group known as JAN, which stood for Joint Army and Navy who took on these matters. They later became DESC, for Defense Electronic Supply Center, where the MIL specs evolved. Europe chose 60 Ohms. In reality, in the US, since most of the "tubes" were actually existing materials consisting of standard rods and water pipes, 51.5 Ohms was quite common. It was amazing to see and use adapter/converters to go from 50 to 51.5 Ohms. Eventually, 50 won out, and special tubing was created (or maybe the plumbers allowed their pipes to change dimension slightly). Further along, the Europeans were forced to change because of the influence of companies such as Hewlett-Packard which dominated the world scene. 75 Ohms is the telecommunications standard, because in a dielectric filled line, somewhere around 77 Ohms gives the lowest loss. (Cable TV) 93 Ohms is still used for short runs such as the connection between computers and their monitors because of low capacitance per foot which would reduce the loading on circuits and allow longer cable runs. Volume 9 of the MIT Rad Lab Series has some greater details of this for those interested. It has been reprinted by Artech House and is available. |
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"Kai Howells" wrote in message ... C'mon man, what are you doing? There's no snake-oil whatsoever in anything you've just written! On 2005-03-05 12:02:22 +1100, said: http://www.rfcafe.com/references/ele...of_50_ohms.htm There are probably lots of stories about how 50 Ohms came to be. A group of maybe half a hundred engineers were trying to decide on a standard. They were all looking at the same data but arriving at different results. Finally one Englishman referring to the famous detective said: What we need is 50 Holmes |
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"Kai Howells" wrote in message ... On 2005-03-04 19:43:36 +1100, "Ricky Hunt" said: "Steven Sullivan" wrote in message ... The most outrageous and shameless snake-oil site I've been pointed to recently is: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ I think that site wins. I especially like this about the "intelligent chip": "If left on top of the player, the Chip will not function until the next disc to be upgraded is inserted in the player and played. If you attempt to upgrade a disc th Yeah, and I've heard that if you put the chip in the microwave for 30 seconds, on High, you can recharge it! Think of all the money I'll save not having to buy more of them! Think of all the money you'll spend on a new magnetron for your microwave. I believe the Intelligent Chip contains metal. Peace, Paul |
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"Paul Stamler" wrote in message ... "Kai Howells" wrote in message ... On 2005-03-04 19:43:36 +1100, "Ricky Hunt" said: "Steven Sullivan" wrote in message ... The most outrageous and shameless snake-oil site I've been pointed to recently is: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ I think that site wins. I especially like this about the "intelligent chip": "If left on top of the player, the Chip will not function until the next disc to be upgraded is inserted in the player and played. If you attempt to upgrade a disc th Yeah, and I've heard that if you put the chip in the microwave for 30 seconds, on High, you can recharge it! Think of all the money I'll save not having to buy more of them! Think of all the money you'll spend on a new magnetron for your microwave. I believe the Intelligent Chip contains metal. Peace, Paul I've put lots of stuff in a microwave and never had to buy a new magnetron, then again it was not going to be my microwave for........ Better stop now  Chad |
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In , on 03/05/05
at 09:33 PM, Steven Sullivan said: lordy, it never ends.. http://www.soundstage.com/weaver04.htm (I've read tthat the green pen tweaks started as an online hoax.... taken as truth by some gullible audiophile...and the rest is history. I haven't been able to trace the story back far enough to verify that) Yes, I was there (on Compuserve). I wouldn't call it a hoax, just a joke. We were having some fun. I keep thinking that I can locate the thread on some old 8" floppies, but I never seem to find the time to go through them. As I recall, we cooked up the claims one December and products started arriving on the market in January. What a classic! It had a simple story that was just complex enough that it seemed plausable. When green magic marker types came around, they didn't want to listen to any explainations of why the concept was silly. If you couldn't hear the improvement .. er... well you were deaf and stupid. I even pointed out that, in order to interact with that green coating, the light must first leave the disk ... do you think the light is ever comming back? At that point they usually left because they couldn't stand my stupidity any longer. ---- Another of my favorites was a cryogenic process that claims to improve the sound of CD's. You were supposed to send your CD's, they'd be frozen in liquid nitrogen for a while, and you'd notice an improvement in the sound. I asked them if they could show me some error flag data, but of course they could not. ----------------------------------------------------------- spam: wordgame:123(abc):14 9 20 5 2 9 18 4 at 22 15 9 3 5 14 5 20 dot 3 15 13 (Barry Mann) [sorry about the puzzle, spammers are ruining my mailbox] ----------------------------------------------------------- |
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In , on 03/06/05
at 01:25 PM, "Rich.Andrews" said: Steven Sullivan wrote in : In rec.audio.tech Paul Stamler wrote: Some of you may be old enough to remember the "deltoid test" flap. In the early days of digital recording, a clinical psychologist (was his name Diamond?) claimed that digital recordings agitated his patients, while analog recordings calmed them. He proved that by employing the "deltoid test", borrowed from chiropractic. Tweako amp designer Mark Levinson has been touting those 'results' for some years now...most recently in a published 'roundtable' in The Absolute Sound. The polite silence from the other members of the roundtable was rather telling...even TAS has its limits. You picked up on that too? Levinson was ignored by the other members for most of the discussion. It was really funny/sad. Levinson would say something and it was as if he didn't exist. Now either the other panelists couldn't stomach his wacky theories or he is such an annoying, officious, arrogant rip-off artist that no one on the panel could stand him. Let's face it, his rebadged cheap Chinese amp scam is pitiful. He came to our store one morning to personally give us a demo and try to convince us to carry his product. It was the worst demonstration I have ever endured. ----------------------------------------------------------- spam: wordgame:123(abc):14 9 20 5 2 9 18 4 at 22 15 9 3 5 14 5 20 dot 3 15 13 (Barry Mann) [sorry about the puzzle, spammers are ruining my mailbox] ----------------------------------------------------------- |
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