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studio inside caravan inside studio?
Is it possible to make small tracking/control studio inside caravan which is
inside studiohall? (not movable) Its isolated, round shaped and speakers can be placed inwall (holes for speakers). If construction is too light in some place it can be make thicker so prevent resonance. There's large window in front of caravan so picture projection or other monitoring is no problem. noise equipment can be placed in cabinet where cool air comes from outside of caravan. Caravan stands on 3 foot which isolates it pretty well from ground (2 rubber wheels) pretty cheap but surely it takes money to bring in usable condition but as a basic idea is this totally idiot? I am not after anything permament solution anyway. J.A.A. |
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What in the hell are you talking about?
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"db" wrote in news:1105101660.149431.136740
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: What in the hell are you talking about? Quite, quite Bizarre! |
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In England and Ireland a caravan is a camper. If that helps... |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:34:19 GMT, "Steve" wrote:
In England and Ireland a caravan is a camper. If that helps... No - in England and Ireland it is a caravan. In the USA it is a camper. d Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:34:19 GMT, "Steve" wrote: In England and Ireland a caravan is a camper. If that helps... No - in England and Ireland it is a caravan. In the USA it is a camper. I thought Caravan was a Duke Ellington tune? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Actually Caravan is a mini van made by Dodge.
Eric |
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Of course. I remember once visiting a video production
studio a few years back that had built its control room inside a "bread truck" or StepVan. They used it on location and then parked it inside their "studio" (which was a commercial warehouse type of building), and plugged in all their electronics into the side of the truck. A travel trailer ("caravan", as it is known in some other parts of the world) or motor home can certainly serve the same function. Just realize that they are usually very lightly built - obviously to save weight since they are built to be towed (trailers) or to maximize GVWR limits on the truck chassis to provide the greatest living area functions. Several years ago a fellow out here in Victorville, CA was selling his 4-camera video production truck built in a Pace Arrow motor home. It was quite nicely done, and afforded the crew living quarters on location. I wouldn't expect you're going to have a very good tracking space if that's what you need. Light construction will certainly not keep out external noise, and you'll have to be creative when you install your equipment. But if you're just looking for a way to have a lightweight, mobile "room" for location work and then a little post-production without having to build a specialized control room, then use your creative talents to design something around what you want to do. Just keep in mind the compromises. People have built this type of facility in trailers, vans, panel trucks, station wagons, etc. for years. Even mobile homes/modular homes/portable classrooms have been/are being used as recording studios. Remember the limitations, and spend your money wisely. "J.A.A." wrote: Is it possible to make small tracking/control studio inside caravan which is inside studiohall? (not movable) Its isolated, round shaped and speakers can be placed inwall (holes for speakers). If construction is too light in some place it can be make thicker so prevent resonance. There's large window in front of caravan so picture projection or other monitoring is no problem. noise equipment can be placed in cabinet where cool air comes from outside of caravan. Caravan stands on 3 foot which isolates it pretty well from ground (2 rubber wheels) pretty cheap but surely it takes money to bring in usable condition but as a basic idea is this totally idiot? I am not after anything permament solution anyway. J.A.A. |
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J.A.A. wrote:
Is it possible to make small tracking/control studio inside caravan which is inside studiohall? (not movable) Its isolated, round shaped and speakers can be placed inwall (holes for speakers). If construction is too light in some place it can be make thicker so prevent resonance. There's large window in front of caravan so picture projection or other monitoring is no problem. noise equipment can be placed in cabinet where cool air comes from outside of caravan. Caravan stands on 3 foot which isolates it pretty well from ground (2 rubber wheels) pretty cheap but surely it takes money to bring in usable condition but as a basic idea is this totally idiot? I am not after anything permament solution anyway. If you're just using it for isolation, it's probably not worth the trouble. If you want to build your control room in there and actually use it on location, the idea might be sound (no pun intended). One limitation will be the size of the room thus created...near field monitoring only. jak J.A.A. |
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On 2005-01-07, J.A.A. wrote:
Is it possible to make small tracking/control studio inside caravan which is inside studiohall? (not movable) I've seen vans do full broadcast video production from, e.g., political events. The gear in those things is staggeringly expensive, of course, but they build them on an TV-network-affiliate budget. Why do you even need to make the thing immobile? Anything you can rack mount, you can rack mount inside a van. Now, power supply might be a problem for mobile, but you can just run a mains cord through the window. |
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On 07 Jan 2005 18:09:17 GMT, (Raymond) wrote:
On 7 Jan 2005 09:29:49 -0500, (Scott Dorsey) wrote: In article , Don Pearce wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:34:19 GMT, "Steve" wrote: In England and Ireland a caravan is a camper. If that helps... No - in England and Ireland it is a caravan. In the USA it is a camper. No, in USA its a Mini Van. But in the UK that is a van based on a Mini. d Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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Ok,
I dont know how things are downthere south where winter is barely T-Shirt weather. But in Scandinavia most mobile home vans, caravans, cambers, westfalia like vans etc. are isolated to keep cold / warm out / in. I dont have large facility that I plan to use there. Just basic audio editing for video. Now if the videoproduction studio is large hall without dedicated space for audiomonitoring or post I just thought why not make one from this kind of "caravan". Since its not registered I can prepare it to serve my needs better. Like make things stronger and throwing few blankets over it for better isolation etc. Nothing fancy here. DAW can be outside this space to keep noise out and equipment cool. I know they have dont many broadcast vans and most cable company does have own mobile studio as video link. something similar but little more for audio. I just need to investigate how it would sound. Size of this space is no problem since there is a lot large caravans made 1970's or 80's that cost less than 500USD/Euro's and making light walls in studio does cost more. J.A.A "james of tucson" wrote in message tory.com... On 2005-01-07, J.A.A. wrote: Is it possible to make small tracking/control studio inside caravan which is inside studiohall? (not movable) I've seen vans do full broadcast video production from, e.g., political events. The gear in those things is staggeringly expensive, of course, but they build them on an TV-network-affiliate budget. Why do you even need to make the thing immobile? Anything you can rack mount, you can rack mount inside a van. Now, power supply might be a problem for mobile, but you can just run a mains cord through the window. |
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Hey all you wannabe english teachers,
with your silly discussion, you haven't helped him one step further. Kind Regards Nudge Don Pearce wrote: On 07 Jan 2005 18:09:17 GMT, (Raymond) wrote: On 7 Jan 2005 09:29:49 -0500, (Scott Dorsey) wrote: In article , Don Pearce wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:34:19 GMT, "Steve" wrote: In England and Ireland a caravan is a camper. If that helps... No - in England and Ireland it is a caravan. In the USA it is a camper. No, in USA its a Mini Van. But in the UK that is a van based on a Mini. d Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com -- Nudge // PCS Records Studio Leipzig http://studio.lieber-media.de |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:40:59 +0100, Nudge wrote:
Hey all you wannabe english teachers, with your silly discussion, you haven't helped him one step further. Kind Regards Nudge Sure we have - it is very important to know what a mini van is. d Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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http://www.solifer.com/index_eng.asp
size is about 5m x 2.5m x 1.9m ..jukka "Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:40:59 +0100, Nudge wrote: Hey all you wannabe english teachers, with your silly discussion, you haven't helped him one step further. Kind Regards Nudge Sure we have - it is very important to know what a mini van is. d Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:57:59 +0200, "J.A.A." wrote:
http://www.solifer.com/index_eng.asp size is about 5m x 2.5m x 1.9m .jukka Too big. *These* are mini vans: http://mk1-performance-conversions.c..._brochures.htm d Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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T Maki wrote:
Several years ago a fellow out here in Victorville, CA was selling his 4-camera video production truck built in a Pace Arrow motor home. It was quite nicely done, and afforded the crew living quarters on location. I'd rather have a Pierce-Arrow ; |
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Well, I did think about making a mobile rig in a RV (I think that's what's he
is talking about) I looked at servile different truck and bus style vehicles. I then determined that the best way would be to buy a used box truck and build the room inside the cargo part of the truck. I looked at a few trucks with 16 and 25 foot boxes and about 9' of inside height, the big problem was that you can only make a vehicle 8' 6" wide. That's what the law is here in the USA, if it's a farm vehicle you can go to 9' wide but that still leaves little room to build a good room within room studio. |
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Don Pearce wrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:57:59 +0200, "J.A.A." wrote: http://www.solifer.com/index_eng.asp size is about 5m x 2.5m x 1.9m .jukka Too big. *These* are mini vans: http://mk1-performance-conversions.c..._brochures.htm I've *got* to have one of these. Wonder if any are still around. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:12:47 +0200, "J.A.A." wrote:
Its isolated, round shaped and speakers can be placed inwall (holes for speakers). How will you stop the speakers bleeding into the recording area? Sure, you can build a recording facility in a truck. A caravan is just a truck without a motor. Does it sound good in this caravan? If not, it probably isn't worth the bother. CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm "Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:34:49 -0800, Bob Cain
wrote: http://mk1-performance-conversions.c..._brochures.htm I've *got* to have one of these. Wonder if any are still around. I drove one 35 years ago. Terrible driving position. Even at age 20 it gave me backache. CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm "Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect |
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