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Output transformer design notes by Crowhurst.
Thanks to Roger Rosenbaum for sending me the 1956 Crowhurst ideas on OPT
design. Crowhurst expresses some basically solid ideas for OPT design and particularly he promotes GOSS C cores instead of E&I lams because the core permeabiity ( µ ) is 3 times higher than old E&I lams, therefore 3 times the inductance can be had for "free" with the same size of core leg area and turns for each type of core. This was in the days when good GOSS had a max µ of about 5,000, and ordinary non oriented steels went about 1,000. But now the GOSS even in E&I lamination form can have µ = 17,000 max, and old NOSS which is 1/3 the price can be 3,500. So today a decent OPT can be made from either GOSS or NOSS. The glaring omision by Crowhurst is that for good OPT, the design is deteremined by the Fsat, frequency of saturation which is about the same for all iron, ie, at about 1.3 Tesla when distortion currents begin to exceed roughly 3%, and so to get decent low distortion at bass F one should design with Fsat in mind from the outset. Therefore at full PO of the amplifier, you are doing well with an OPT design if Bmax = 0.3 Tesla at 50Hz, which means 0.6T at 25Hz, and 1.2T at 12.5Hz. If this condition is met, then there usually always is enough primary inductance for whatever series source resistance and shunt load resistance exists. So a pentode amp with Ra-a of 40k with a load of 5k has a total terminal source resistance of 40k//5k, approximately 4.44k. NFB may drastically reduce the series source resistance as does the use of UL, CFB or triode connections. Once you base one's design on saturation, then Crowhurst's recommendations with what cores were available in 1956 don't add up to a huge amount. In my 300W amps with E&I lams, the Z ratio is 1.3k : 6 ohms, for use with 12 x KT88. The maximum primary inductance is many times what it needs to be because the iron µ is 17,000 maximum. In fact, I could afford to just butt all thr Es against all the Is and reduce the µ much less than 17,000, and still have enough primary L. What matters is the saturation, and in my design I have a core of 110mm stack of 51mm tongue, and 1,060 P turns, thus giving 482H max. If the load is 1.3k, then -3dB is at 0.43 Hz, and so L could be 48H max and still be plenty. But 300W into 1.3k = 624Vrms a-a and Fsat with B = 1.5T for the GOSS occurs at 16Hz, and thus bass response is fine at full PO down to a low enough F. If I used Crowhurst ideas, and said 48H was enough, then the turns would be 1,060 x 1 / sq,rt 10 = 1,060 / 3.16 = 335, but Fsat would move up 3.16 times to 50Hz, which is way too high for my standards. Of course with only 335t for the P winding, BW would increase a lot because leakage L also reduces with primary inductance. But with my 1,060 P turns, and an interleaving pattern with 6 S sections and 5 P sections, I manage to get 16Hz to 270kHz with the rated 6 ohm load connected. C-cores could be used for a design like mine, and many C-cores have a much larger window area to core leg area ratio, so the volume of the winding can be greater than the volume of the core. In my designs its always the other way around, core volume winding volume. If the core volume is halved, winding volume has to double for the same PO handling. If you halve the core centre leg area, then you must use twice the P turns for the same Fsat. This also affects the P inductance, and with the 1/2 x Afe, and 2P, you get twice the Lp, and more than 3 times the leakage L because LL varies as the square of the turns. So the increased winding volume may not be so good at HF as where you have a huge core and small coil to reduce Np to a smallest mumber of turns for lowest Fsat, thus gaining enough Lp, and also getting a huge BW. Sorry, folks, but youse ain't ever gonna get lightweight transformers out of me! So after finally reading Crowhurst, I doubt I see much to gain from. His diagrmatical way of explaining leakage inductance is fine, but readers of 1956 would be utterly be-fuddled to try to decode what on earth all those fancy smancy graphs he's drawn might possibly mean. See the simple formula for leakage inductance at my website; its far easier to apply that trying to use graphs by Crowhurst, or use anything in RHD4. All of what was said by Crowhurst and others was later interpreted by some other brainy blokes and my formula is a regurgitation of what I read in Wireless World, a reputable magazine if ever there was one. Anyway, it works. Capacitance calculation is also a mystery after reading Crowhurst. But the main C to worry about is the total C looking into each anode connection. In an interleaved OPT, the shunt C between a layer of P beside a layer of S can be approximately worked out as if they were equivalent metal plates. With a 6S x 5P winding pattern each shunt C between P and S occurs at fractions of the P winding, and they are transformed down in value by the Z ratios of the fractions of windings, then totalled. So suppose C = 500pF between one P to S winding regarded as an earthy winding. say you have S-P-S-P-S-1/2P from an anode end to the CT, then you'll have C at 1/2 way as being 1/4 x 500pF as seen at the anode end. Typically, for the interleaving just stated, you'd get total shunt C = ( 500 + 400 + 130 + 100 + 50 ) pF = 1,280pF. This is 640pF a-a. The leakage L is low enough so that the resonance between Cshunt and LL is way above 100kHz, and of little concern, because open loop gain will have been made low at that F and above. In any OPT, there can be a large number of small value LL between all the interleaved parts, and they all interact to form what can be a complex multio order low pass filter. Trying to accurately model such complex L&C arrangements has not ever been achieved and there's no program available to dial in all the coil details, then click enter, and have a model equivalent schematic displayed and with F response. Engineers hate things they cannot model. However, once you have wound and tested a dozen OPT, you'll learn what works and what doesn't. Crowhurst is fine reference material, but I hope my webisite is of greater worth because there is more info on how-to-do-it. Crowhurst doesn't dwell on SET amps in the papers sent to me. But SET are now all the rage for the DIYer brigade. Well, ensure that ac B max is not more than 0.3T at 50Hz, and that dc B does not exceed 0.6T because of careful air gapping, and that Lp has a reactance = RL at 20Hz, at full PO, and , and you WILL get terrific bass. Crowhurst makes the point that HF performance does not much depend on the iron core. In fact, I can say that a decent OPT can have its iron core *removed* and the operation above 3kHz will be unchanged. The µ of iron used in AF trannies falls hugely as F rises, so L also falls, but the XL = 6.28 x L x F, so although L falls a lot by 1kHz, the XL is still very high at 1kHz. There is an F where the OPT coil has enough L just from being an air cored winding without any iron present so that the load R is a much lower resistance than the reactance of the primary inductance. Patrick Turner. |
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Output transformer design notes by Crowhurst.
Hi RATs!
I never really attempted to wind my own transformers, but, I did try the Alan Blumlein 'garter' cathode bias current balancing circuit in some amps and he was correct in saying that P-P output transformers will handle lower frequencies better, if the current is balanced in both legs of the P-P primary. Four resistors and a pair of caps is a small price to pay for obvious sonic improvement that even I can hear. Pity he died thirteen years before Crowhurst's book. Good thing some folks keep regurgitating what they read into the net, for those of us who can't get to the library, nor manage to read a whole book, anymore. Happy Ears! Al - the layabout who does amps for the joy of listening (keeping my hands busy in my bedroom is fun, too PS A thing to keep in mind while designing any machine is that most of the time, it will be doing nothing. Boredom kills ideas, too. |
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Output transformer design notes by Crowhurst.
Hi RATs!
Yes, Broskie goes off on that tangent, too Have you tried the garter circuit? It is low tech, but high performance, if you take time to match the resistors. It also works bypassed, or not Happy Ears! Al |
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