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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
I recently found a very clean pair of JBL L19 speakers. These speakers look new. Before buying them, I examined the speaker surrounds thoroughly. All of them appear to be in perfect condition. I took them home and hooked them up. They sound very good, but I am hearing a slight rattle coming from one of the woofers. The rattle is not very loud at all, and in fact is almost inaudible most of the time. But you can definitely hear it if you are listening to certain things like a bass-heavy radio announcer's voice or a soft piano solo. The woofers on the JBL L19's have a bowl-shaped piece of paper glued to the center of the cone. I have verified that the glue is solid all the way around; I have even run a very fine bead of glue left over from a speaker surround kit all the way around the bowl, but the rattle persists. I can make the rattle go away if I gently put my finger on certain places in the center of the woofer cone. I can make the rattle worse if I put my finger on the surround, near the top of the speaker. One more thing: I can hear a slight rubbing noise if I gently push the woofer's cone back and forth on the top half of the speaker. I do NOT hear this rubbing noise if I push the cone anywhere on the bottom half, and I do NOT hear the rubbing noise if I push both the top and bottom halves at the same time (in other words, if I push the cone in a "balanced" way). I have verified that NOTHING is touching the back of the speaker; no wires, no insulation or anything else. I am suspecting that maybe the spider is out of round or off-center, or maybe the voice coil is off-center. What can I do to further diagnose, and then fix, this annoying problem? |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:16:19 -0800 (PST), EADGBE
wrote: I recently found a very clean pair of JBL L19 speakers. These speakers look new. Before buying them, I examined the speaker surrounds thoroughly. All of them appear to be in perfect condition. I took them home and hooked them up. They sound very good, but I am hearing a slight rattle coming from one of the woofers. The rattle is not very loud at all, and in fact is almost inaudible most of the time. But you can definitely hear it if you are listening to certain things like a bass-heavy radio announcer's voice or a soft piano solo. The woofers on the JBL L19's have a bowl-shaped piece of paper glued to the center of the cone. I have verified that the glue is solid all the way around; I have even run a very fine bead of glue left over from a speaker surround kit all the way around the bowl, but the rattle persists. I can make the rattle go away if I gently put my finger on certain places in the center of the woofer cone. I can make the rattle worse if I put my finger on the surround, near the top of the speaker. One more thing: I can hear a slight rubbing noise if I gently push the woofer's cone back and forth on the top half of the speaker. I do NOT hear this rubbing noise if I push the cone anywhere on the bottom half, and I do NOT hear the rubbing noise if I push both the top and bottom halves at the same time (in other words, if I push the cone in a "balanced" way). I have verified that NOTHING is touching the back of the speaker; no wires, no insulation or anything else. I am suspecting that maybe the spider is out of round or off-center, or maybe the voice coil is off-center. What can I do to further diagnose, and then fix, this annoying problem? When the rubbing is very slight you can usually cure it by unbolting the speaker, rotating it 180 degrees and bolting it back in. Everything sags slightly the other way and bits that were touching stop doing so. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:16:19 -0800 (PST), EADGBE
wrote: I am suspecting that maybe the spider is out of round or off-center, or maybe the voice coil is off-center. What can I do to further diagnose, and then fix, this annoying problem? One easy thing to try is to mount the speaker the other way up. Otherwise get it re-coned. This may or may not be cost-effective. |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
EADGBE wrote: I recently found a very clean pair of JBL L19 speakers. These speakers look new. Before buying them, I examined the speaker surrounds thoroughly. All of them appear to be in perfect condition. I took them home and hooked them up. They sound very good, but I am hearing a slight rattle coming from one of the woofers. The rattle is not very loud at all, and in fact is almost inaudible most of the time. But you can definitely hear it if you are listening to certain things like a bass-heavy radio announcer's voice or a soft piano solo. The woofers on the JBL L19's have a bowl-shaped piece of paper glued to the center of the cone. I have verified that the glue is solid all the way around; I have even run a very fine bead of glue left over from a speaker surround kit all the way around the bowl, but the rattle persists. I can make the rattle go away if I gently put my finger on certain places in the center of the woofer cone. I can make the rattle worse if I put my finger on the surround, near the top of the speaker. One more thing: I can hear a slight rubbing noise if I gently push the woofer's cone back and forth on the top half of the speaker. I do NOT hear this rubbing noise if I push the cone anywhere on the bottom half, and I do NOT hear the rubbing noise if I push both the top and bottom halves at the same time (in other words, if I push the cone in a "balanced" way). I have verified that NOTHING is touching the back of the speaker; no wires, no insulation or anything else. I am suspecting that maybe the spider is out of round or off-center, or maybe the voice coil is off-center. What can I do to further diagnose, and then fix, this annoying problem? More than likely, the speaker was overdriven and the voice coil hit the pole piece and warped the coil. Recone or replacement is the only solution then. There is a chance that the spider has come unglued. CHeck under the cone in the basket area to confirm the spider is firmly connected to the cone and the speaker basket. I have not seen this in a JBL, but i have seen it before (not very often though) Speakers of the 10/15 year old vintage often suffer from dry rot of the cone surround. Check closely for any MICRO fracture of where the surround connects to the basket or the cone itself. THis is the first stage of self destruction. bob |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"EADGBE" wrote in message ... I recently found a very clean pair of JBL L19 speakers. These speakers look new. snip According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote:
According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ....And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... |
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Keith G wrote: The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... A strange spammer who isn't trying to sell or promote anything... -- *If PROGRESS is for advancement, what does that make CONGRESS mean? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Keith G" wrote in message ... "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... Hi Keith - long time no speak. How's it hanging ? Missus OK ? FWIW, this guy posts often on s.e.r. and I have never known him to be impolite or to fail to acknowledge any responders to his questions, myself included. Arfa |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
EADGBE wrote:
They sound very good, but I am hearing a slight rattle coming from one of the woofers. The rattle is not very loud at all, and in fact is almost inaudible most of the time. But you can definitely hear it if you are listening to certain things like a bass-heavy radio announcer's voice or a soft piano solo. I had that effect in some Pioneer speakers way back when because the foam surround was coming loose from the cones. I would have sworn that the voice coils were warped and touching the magnet cores. -- If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
I have had this before. The speaker has to be re-coned, or the surround has
to be changed. There are a fair number of places that specialize in speaker driver rebuilding. The cone or the spider is off centre. As the drivers age, they can go off centre. Some people suggest turning them around in their mounts, but this does not properly fix the problem. When rebuilding a driver, I would have both re-built at the same time. This would insure that that they are matched. The other solution is to call the JBL rep and order a new driver. The fault you are having is common on many types of speakers. We send out speakers for rebuilding for our clients. -- JANA _____ "EADGBE" wrote in message ... I recently found a very clean pair of JBL L19 speakers. These speakers look new. Before buying them, I examined the speaker surrounds thoroughly. All of them appear to be in perfect condition. I took them home and hooked them up. They sound very good, but I am hearing a slight rattle coming from one of the woofers. The rattle is not very loud at all, and in fact is almost inaudible most of the time. But you can definitely hear it if you are listening to certain things like a bass-heavy radio announcer's voice or a soft piano solo. The woofers on the JBL L19's have a bowl-shaped piece of paper glued to the center of the cone. I have verified that the glue is solid all the way around; I have even run a very fine bead of glue left over from a speaker surround kit all the way around the bowl, but the rattle persists. I can make the rattle go away if I gently put my finger on certain places in the center of the woofer cone. I can make the rattle worse if I put my finger on the surround, near the top of the speaker. One more thing: I can hear a slight rubbing noise if I gently push the woofer's cone back and forth on the top half of the speaker. I do NOT hear this rubbing noise if I push the cone anywhere on the bottom half, and I do NOT hear the rubbing noise if I push both the top and bottom halves at the same time (in other words, if I push the cone in a "balanced" way). I have verified that NOTHING is touching the back of the speaker; no wires, no insulation or anything else. I am suspecting that maybe the spider is out of round or off-center, or maybe the voice coil is off-center. What can I do to further diagnose, and then fix, this annoying problem? |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message ... "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... Hi Keith - long time no speak. How's it hanging ? Missus OK ? FWIW, this guy posts often on s.e.r. and I have never known him to be impolite or to fail to acknowledge any responders to his questions, myself included. Hi Arfa! All is well here, thanks - hope the same with you! (Dinky little drive belt continues to work perfectly!) Anyway, regarding our Guitar String friend (that anyone should be so quick to support me when U No Hoo is flicking his little calumnies my way!) - as I said above: On my machine (which is new, so it don't go back all the way to the Big Bang) I have only one former entry which shows another instance of him crossposting a request for advice and no sign of a response of any kind to the 4 replies he received: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ukra.jpg I speak as I find...!! |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Keith G" wrote in message news "Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Keith G" wrote in message ... "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... Hi Keith - long time no speak. How's it hanging ? Missus OK ? FWIW, this guy posts often on s.e.r. and I have never known him to be impolite or to fail to acknowledge any responders to his questions, myself included. Hi Arfa! All is well here, thanks - hope the same with you! (Dinky little drive belt continues to work perfectly!) Anyway, regarding our Guitar String friend (that anyone should be so quick to support me when U No Hoo is flicking his little calumnies my way!) - as I said above: On my machine (which is new, so it don't go back all the way to the Big Bang) I have only one former entry which shows another instance of him crossposting a request for advice and no sign of a response of any kind to the 4 replies he received: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ukra.jpg I speak as I find...!! Fair enough , Keith. I would have to say that it was possibly an oversight then, because as I said, I have typically found him to be a responsible poster, definitely not in the class of 'spammer' or 'troll' ... Glad you're all well, and the belt is still ok. Fleetie pops in over here from time to time. I'll have to try to find the (computer) time to pop over there again soon for a chat with all you guys. Arfa |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares - I have clear evidence that he's a twice a year blow-in wanting free advice and obviously doesn't consider it ill-mannered to smear it all over several separate newsgroups to get what he wants and without a word of thanks. Look at the pic: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ukra.jpg Work it out for yourself.... Delete 'spammer' and insert 'crossposter' if it makes you feel better - usenet tosser, either way.... Maybe it's you who should **** off... From ukra - the only group I subscribe to? (See also in the pic...) Stop and have a little think, YTC - you stop crossposting here and I don't even *see* your silly posts... (Yes, my replies are also crossposted - how TF do I know where you are posting from...???) |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Keith G" wrote in message ... "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares - I have clear evidence that he's a twice a year blow-in wanting free advice and obviously doesn't consider it ill-mannered to smear it all over several separate newsgroups to get what he wants and without a word of thanks. Look at the pic: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ukra.jpg Work it out for yourself.... Delete 'spammer' and insert 'crossposter' if it makes you feel better - usenet tosser, either way.... Maybe it's you who should **** off... From ukra - the only group I subscribe to? (See also in the pic...) Stop and have a little think, YTC - you stop crossposting here and I don't even *see* your silly posts... (Yes, my replies are also crossposted - how TF do I know where you are posting from...???) Maybe your news server just didn't see his reply or it didn't get crossposted? I see a few regulars in that reply from s.e.r.. I know that EADGBE isn't a spammer / Troll as well. If you upset because it is crossposted, create a filter. Theres no need to get angry about it. Now to get this back on topic, Have you tried moving the voice coil in and out by hand to feel if it it is dragging at all? I'd tend to agree with the others that the cone might be out of alignment a bit. Mike |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Michael Kennedy" wrote Maybe your news server just didn't see his reply or it didn't get crossposted? I see a few regulars in that reply from s.e.r.. I know that EADGBE isn't a spammer / Troll as well. If you upset because it is crossposted, create a filter. Theres no need to get angry about it. Angry at newsgroup posts? Oh, I don't think so.... Please point to where my original response is incorrect: "According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received...." And then consider directing your advice to the root cause - ie, the crossposter himself who, incidentally, responded to me with this little gem: "Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me." When the clear evidence: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ukra.jpg indicates that a) I did do the research, b) your paragon failed to thank anyone at least on that occasion and c) is, in fact, a crossposting little gob****e who doesn't brook at dragging half Usenet into sorting out his problems for free if, when and as he feels like it.... |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Keith G" wrote in message ... "Michael Kennedy" wrote Maybe your news server just didn't see his reply or it didn't get crossposted? I see a few regulars in that reply from s.e.r.. I know that EADGBE isn't a spammer / Troll as well. If you upset because it is crossposted, create a filter. Theres no need to get angry about it. Angry at newsgroup posts? Oh, I don't think so.... Please point to where my original response is incorrect: "According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received...." And then consider directing your advice to the root cause - ie, the crossposter himself who, incidentally, responded to me with this little gem: "Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me." When the clear evidence: http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ukra.jpg indicates that a) I did do the research, b) your paragon failed to thank anyone at least on that occasion and c) is, in fact, a crossposting little gob****e who doesn't brook at dragging half Usenet into sorting out his problems for free if, when and as he feels like it.... Hey ! I've never seen you getting this worked up Keefy baby ! Those good 'ol Aussie boys on ukra been giving you lessons or summat ? d;~} Arfa |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:59:17 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares I care. And who the **** cares whether you care or not. And you've caused much more noise than EADGBE so kindly **** off. No, **** - you have. Keep crossposting into ukra to prove me right.... snipped the rest of your bull**** completely unread Nah, I don't believe you.... |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 +0000, Keith G wrote: Subject: QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle From: "Keith G" Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,sci.electronics.repair,uk.rec.audio ,rec.audio.pro Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 -0000 "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:59:17 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares I care. And[SLAP] Keep the thread going you hypocritical ****. You know you want the last word. heh What ails thee, friend...? |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:26:11 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 +0000, Keith G wrote: Subject: QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle From: "Keith G" Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,sci.electronics.repair,uk.rec.audio ,rec.audio.pro Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 -0000 "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:59:17 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares I care. And[SLAP] Keep the thread going you hypocritical ****. You know you want the last word. heh What[SLAP] Push the keyboard further back, sunshine - sounds like your tits keep hitting it.... I was right. Even a crossposting loser like you has got to be right at least the one time.... Tell me summat - you're obviously a 'me too' attention-seeker, but what do you want to be when you grow up? Just curious like.... |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:14:13 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:26:11 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 +0000, Keith G wrote: Subject: QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle From: "Keith G" Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,sci.electronics.repair,uk.rec.audio ,rec.audio.pro Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 -0000 "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:59:17 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares I care. And[SLAP] Keep the thread going you hypocritical ****. You know you want the last word. heh What[SLAP] Push the keyboard further back, sunshine - sounds like your tits keep hitting it.... I was right. Even a crossposting loser like you has got to be right at least the one time.... Imagine that, whining about cross posting from someone who's been cross posting the entire thread. No, Clowny Boy - you're crossposting from 4 newsgroups, I'm simply replying from ukra.... (Glad the tip about moving the keyboard worked.... :-) LOL!! |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:29:01 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:14:13 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:26:11 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 +0000, Keith G wrote: Subject: QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle From: "Keith G" Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,sci.electronics.repair,uk.rec.audio ,rec.audio.pro Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:44 -0000 "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:59:17 +0000, Keith G wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:25 +0000, Keith G wrote: "EADGBE" wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 11:19 am, "Keith G" wrote: According to my reader, the last time this crossposting clown posted in ukra was 18/05/07 to ask for free advice with questions about more dodgy old gear, splashed across a different spread of newsgroups and then failed to acknowledge the bunch of helpful replies he received.... Hmmm.... Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. This is the last you'll hear from me. If you want to satisfy your juvenile urge to flame me some more, go right ahead. I won't take the bait. Have a nice day. The words '**** off spammer' spring immediately to mind... I've known EADGBE to be anything but a spammer. Who the **** cares I care. And[SLAP] Keep the thread going you hypocritical ****. You know you want the last word. heh What[SLAP] Push the keyboard further back, sunshine - sounds like your tits keep hitting it.... I was right. Even a crossposting loser like you has got to be right at least the one time.... Imagine that, whining about cross posting from someone who's been cross posting the entire thread. No, Clowny Boy - you're crossposting from 4 newsgroups, I'm simply replying from ukra.... Let's see, your reply was cross posted to: Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,sci.electronics.repair,uk.rec.audio ,rec.audio.pro I would say with out a doubt your reply was cross posted. Like I say, dummy: I only subscribe to ukra and I'm only replying to your posts - if you are crossposting, the replies are going to be crossposted aren't they? I don't even know (or care) what group you are posting from, so I couldn't strip the crossposting out, even if I CBA to! (Down to you, really - isn't it?) Anyway, I'm bored now and I feel sorry for the members of your crossposted groups, even if you don't - so this is my last word.... rest of the silly **** snipped |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
OK. I have just dropped in and checked this thread, after being absent for a few days. I have done some checking into this "controversy" (if all of this B.S. could even deserve that title)... In the case of my question concerning the Nakamichi TA-4A receiver, I was able to resolve the issue without having to check the thread again to see what bits of advice I had received. I never checked back, so it does logically follow that I never did respond to the original thread with a message of gratitude to the people kind enough to try to help me. So yeah, Keith G. is technically correct...I didn't thank anyone in that thread, and I do believe that I should have done so, even though I didn't need to try any of the suggestions I received. I was wrong not to thank those who posted suggestions...BUT...Keith G. is equally wrong for slamming my head up against the wall so furiously for it. It was a simple oversight on my part, and certainly not deserving of such self-righteous indignation on his part. HONESTLY, we all have been guilty of not expressing gratitude at one time or another...should we all be forced to have that held against us for the rest of our lives? Keith G. was quite diligent in finding a mistake that I made in the past and then holding me accountable for it. Why couldn't he have been equally diligent in finding my much more recent posts, where I was quite careful to thank those who had helped me? I guess it's more fun for Keith G. to point out where others go wrong, instead of actually being constructive and helpful. And to top it all off, he never even offered any advice to me in that Nakamichi thread--so why is he even spending all of his time and energy caring about whether or not people were properly thanked in that thread??? Is it really THAT much fun to be so vindictive? I guess it is for Keith G. I will end by saying one more thing: It takes a real adult to admit when he's wrong. I have done so in this post. I will now wait for Keith G. to admit he was wrong for being so needlessly vicious. But I won't hold my breath. By the way, A BIG THANK YOU (sincerely) to everyone who has been helping me with the JBL speaker question. I haven't yet had the time to try any suggestions, but I have some free time coming up in the next few days, and I plan to give some of your suggestions a go. I'll let you know what I find.... Cheers! |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"EADGBE" wrote in message ... OK. I have just dropped in and checked this thread, after being absent for a few days. I have done some checking into this "controversy" (if all of this B.S. could even deserve that title)... In the case of my question concerning the Nakamichi TA-4A receiver, I was able to resolve the issue without having to check the thread again to see what bits of advice I had received. I never checked back, Yep. so it does logically follow that I never did respond to the original thread with a message of gratitude to the people kind enough to try to help me. Yep. So yeah, Keith G. is technically correct...I didn't thank anyone in that thread, and I do believe that I should have done so, even though I didn't need to try any of the suggestions I received. Yep. (As in May last year, in ukra...) I was wrong not to thank those who posted suggestions...BUT...Keith G. is equally wrong for slamming my head up against the wall so furiously for it. It was a simple oversight on my part, and certainly not deserving of such self-righteous indignation on his part. You think so? 100% incidence on my (new) computer here and I don't have the beginning of this thread, but I believe I pointed out your crossposting and failure to thank those who replied on this and the only previous post I could find for you - which was also crossposted.... HONESTLY, we all have been guilty of not expressing gratitude at one time or another... ??? should we all be forced to have that held against us for the rest of our lives? Keith G. was quite diligent in finding a mistake that I made in the past and then holding me accountable for it. Took 20 seconds - see above, I had only 300 posts to scan and your only other post in ukra, the only group I subscribed to then was May last year... Why couldn't he have been equally diligent in finding my much more recent posts, where I was quite careful to thank those who had helped me? In ukra? There weren't any. I guess it's more fun for Keith G. to point out where others go wrong, instead of actually being constructive and helpful. Not really and, as I was just about to unsubscribe ukra anyway, I'd have done better to let it pass. If there had been more posts from you (ie as an *ukra contributor*) instead of just one more example of what appeared to be extremely selfish behaviour I wouldn't have replied at all. And to top it all off, he never even offered any advice to me in that Nakamichi thread--so why is he even spending all of his time and energy caring about whether or not people were properly thanked in that thread??? I have no idea about your Nak problem and I care (cared) about the lack of acknowledgement because it came at the end of a long career of assisting no end of people over the last few years (in ukra) - usually/mostly without acknowledgement. Came at the wrong time, that's all.... Is it really THAT much fun to be so vindictive? I guess it is for Keith G. Doesn't help when your response was as follows: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Does it? I will end by saying one more thing: It takes a real adult to admit when he's wrong. I have done so in this post. Almost - you seem more concerned to make the point that *I'm* in the wrong: I will now wait for Keith G. to admit he was wrong for being so needlessly vicious. Vicious? I don't think so - especially not in the light of your 'asshole' response.... But I won't hold my breath. Don't - if I thought I was wrong anywhere in that thread I wouldn't have posted. Wasn't helped by your pal Meat Wanka swinging in to ukra trying to act the tough guy, but I'll tell you one thing - at least he tried to back you up. Not one member of ukra did the same for me - so **** 'em... (This time I've announced my intention to drop 'audio usenet', I've so far only had one 'ukranian' saying 'keep in touch with the group', so it looks like I've overstayed my welcome there - not that there's anything left of it other than the likes of Plowman...) By the way, A BIG THANK YOU (sincerely) to everyone who has been helping me with the JBL speaker question. I haven't yet had the time to try any suggestions, but I have some free time coming up in the next few days, and I plan to give some of your suggestions a go. I'll let you know what I find.... Cheers! Well, it was a long haul, but it seems it did a bit of good in the end. Next time you're in the wrong and get a bollocking for it try to act less like a spoilt kid and pass the word to Meat Wanka to be careful about gobbing off on someone else's 'home turf' - or someone might follow him home again.... That's it. I'm done with usenet now and will take this opportunity to nip it off, or it will go on forever.... (Crosspostposting left in for 'closure'....) |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
"Keith G" wrote in message ... "EADGBE" wrote in message ... OK. I have just dropped in and checked this thread, after being absent for a few days. I have done some checking into this "controversy" (if all of this B.S. could even deserve that title)... In the case of my question concerning the Nakamichi TA-4A receiver, I was able to resolve the issue without having to check the thread again to see what bits of advice I had received. I never checked back, Yep. so it does logically follow that I never did respond to the original thread with a message of gratitude to the people kind enough to try to help me. Yep. So yeah, Keith G. is technically correct...I didn't thank anyone in that thread, and I do believe that I should have done so, even though I didn't need to try any of the suggestions I received. Yep. (As in May last year, in ukra...) I was wrong not to thank those who posted suggestions...BUT...Keith G. is equally wrong for slamming my head up against the wall so furiously for it. It was a simple oversight on my part, and certainly not deserving of such self-righteous indignation on his part. You think so? 100% incidence on my (new) computer here and I don't have the beginning of this thread, but I believe I pointed out your crossposting and failure to thank those who replied on this and the only previous post I could find for you - which was also crossposted.... HONESTLY, we all have been guilty of not expressing gratitude at one time or another... ??? should we all be forced to have that held against us for the rest of our lives? Keith G. was quite diligent in finding a mistake that I made in the past and then holding me accountable for it. Took 20 seconds - see above, I had only 300 posts to scan and your only other post in ukra, the only group I subscribed to then was May last year... Why couldn't he have been equally diligent in finding my much more recent posts, where I was quite careful to thank those who had helped me? In ukra? There weren't any. I guess it's more fun for Keith G. to point out where others go wrong, instead of actually being constructive and helpful. Not really and, as I was just about to unsubscribe ukra anyway, I'd have done better to let it pass. If there had been more posts from you (ie as an *ukra contributor*) instead of just one more example of what appeared to be extremely selfish behaviour I wouldn't have replied at all. And to top it all off, he never even offered any advice to me in that Nakamichi thread--so why is he even spending all of his time and energy caring about whether or not people were properly thanked in that thread??? I have no idea about your Nak problem and I care (cared) about the lack of acknowledgement because it came at the end of a long career of assisting no end of people over the last few years (in ukra) - usually/mostly without acknowledgement. Came at the wrong time, that's all.... Is it really THAT much fun to be so vindictive? I guess it is for Keith G. Doesn't help when your response was as follows: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Then you don't know how to read your reader, asshole. If you ACTUALLY did the research you claim to have done, you will find that I have consistently and publicly thanked the people who took the time to help me. ...And I will thank YOU to keep your smart-ass comments to yourself in the future. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Does it? I will end by saying one more thing: It takes a real adult to admit when he's wrong. I have done so in this post. Almost - you seem more concerned to make the point that *I'm* in the wrong: I will now wait for Keith G. to admit he was wrong for being so needlessly vicious. Vicious? I don't think so - especially not in the light of your 'asshole' response.... But I won't hold my breath. Don't - if I thought I was wrong anywhere in that thread I wouldn't have posted. Wasn't helped by your pal Meat Wanka swinging in to ukra trying to act the tough guy, but I'll tell you one thing - at least he tried to back you up. Not one member of ukra did the same for me - so **** 'em... (This time I've announced my intention to drop 'audio usenet', I've so far only had one 'ukranian' saying 'keep in touch with the group', so it looks like I've overstayed my welcome there - not that there's anything left of it other than the likes of Plowman...) By the way, A BIG THANK YOU (sincerely) to everyone who has been helping me with the JBL speaker question. I haven't yet had the time to try any suggestions, but I have some free time coming up in the next few days, and I plan to give some of your suggestions a go. I'll let you know what I find.... Cheers! Well, it was a long haul, but it seems it did a bit of good in the end. Next time you're in the wrong and get a bollocking for it try to act less like a spoilt kid and pass the word to Meat Wanka to be careful about gobbing off on someone else's 'home turf' - or someone might follow him home again.... That's it. I'm done with usenet now and will take this opportunity to nip it off, or it will go on forever.... (Crosspostposting left in for 'closure'....) Aw, c'mon Keef. I'm not a reg'lar over there on UKRA any more, but I did defend you on here, saying that I had not known you to be quite so 'robust' in your responses in the past, and it must have been just that he caught you on a bad day, which it seems was rather the case. It'll be a shame if you abandon Usenet. I always enjoyed your slightly acidic take on life, and the pictures of your latest speakers and Chinese amps ... !! (x - posting left in, in case you don't look back here ... ) Arfa |
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QUESTION: JBL Speaker Rattle
On Jan 22, 4:39 am, "Keith G" wrote:
You think so? 100% incidence on my (new) computer here and I don't have the beginning of this thread, but I believe I pointed out your crossposting and failure to thank those who replied on this and the only previous post I could find for you - which was also crossposted.... First of all, let me teach you something about crossposting, since it seems to rub your fanny so raw. Some people crosspost because they are SPAMMERS. They crosspost because they are either trying to sell something, or promote some cause, or gain as wide an audience as possible, with little regard for the appropriateness of their message in the newsgroups they populate. Then there are people like myself, who crosspost to a LIMITED NUMBER of newsgroups, because their questions or comments might interest people in more than one narrowly focused newsgroup. I do not crosspost to ALL newsgroups -- only to the newsgroups to which my questions might apply. For your information, I have never, ever crossposted to more than FOUR newsgroups at a time. In all the years I have had internet access, I have received NO negative comments about this practice at all -- except from YOU. YOU are the ONLY ONE who has ever mentioned it at all. If there is strength in numbers, you DON'T have it on your side. But I tell you what--I will do you this favor: If you can show me your "Internet Police" badge, I will gladly follow whatever rules you wish to enforce. Otherwise, any of your objections about my posting practices must be considered null and void, and you would do very well indeed to stop laboring under the delusion that you have any right whatsoever to critique where I (or anyone else) may choose to make any non-commercial, non-spam post. Based on your comments about crossposting, which are pretty sweeping, you seem to think that the second someone posts similar material in more than one newsgroup, they are ***AUTOMATICALLY*** guilty of spamming or similarly disruptive behavior. What is so ironic is that the self-centered, self-important, anti- social behavior you have displayed so blatantly--not just toward me, but to others as well, especially these past few days--is far more disruptive and unwelcome than ANY bit of crossposting. If you could only see that irony. Now to your latest comments about me and my behavior: I believe I pointed out your crossposting and FAILURE TO THANK THOSE WHO REPLIED ON THIS .... Boy, you really are quick on the draw, aren't you? When you used the word "this" in that statement, you could only be referring to THIS thread-- the JBL speaker thread. Go back and check--you posted your original negative comments about me in THIS thread ON THE VERY SAME DAY THAT I STARTED THIS THREAD. In fact, you posted your "bollocking" JUST OVER ONE HOUR AFTER I STARTED THIS THREAD. So, not only am I guilty of thanking people in THIS thread, I am also guilty of not thanking them QUICKLY ENOUGH? So in THIS thread, you didn't even see fit to give me a chance to check back and read the suggestions that had come through in those first minutes...after JUST OVER ONE HOUR, it was too late--I was already guilty of ingratitude. Utterly amazing. I hope and pray that you never become a judge or hold any other sort of position of authority. Since your condemnation is so absolute, and since your decision to levy that condemnation is controlled by such a "hair trigger" as this, it is painfully obvious that we would all eventually be doomed to spend the rest of eternity in your dungeon. I believe I pointed out your crossposting and failure to thank those who replied on this and the only previous post I could find for you - which was also crossposted.... By your own admission here, you have seen fit to judge me by looking at just TWO posts I've made. And as we have determined, one of those posts was only just over an hour old at the time you passed judgment. How many nanoseconds did you search before you drew your very ill- informed conclusion about me? Oh, wait--you told me already: Took 20 seconds - see above, I had only 300 posts to scan and your only other post in ukra, the only group I subscribed to then was May last year... Not exactly what I would call a representative slice of my overall behavior. Please tell me--How does a TWENTY SECOND search give you the right-- real or imagined--to pass judgment on ANY subject or individual? How does a TWENTY SECOND search give you any sufficient amount of TRUTH to base ANY comment you might make on ANY subject or individual? But since when does the TRUTH matter to an individual such as yourself? Even though what you may think of me matters not one iota, to me or anyone else, for the sake of TRUTH please allow me to give you a MUCH more accurate picture of the way I conduct myself whenever I ask for assistance in these newsgroups. Since you don't seem to know how to do a decent newsgroup search about me, I have done my own search, the results of which are shown below. You must face this fact: If I am to be branded an ungrateful leech, I should at least have the privilege of having more than TWENTY SECONDS' worth of evidence presented at my trial, don't you think? NOTE: All posts indicated below (except one) were SINFULLY crossposted to four newsgroups (rec.audio.tech, sci.electronics.repair, uk.rec.audio, rec.audio.pro) Here goes.... April 16, 2007 - I started a thread asking for help with a problem I was having with my Nakamichi BX-300 cassette deck. (QUESTION: Weird Behavior - Nakamichi BX-300) April 17, 18, 21 - I THANKED several people for their responses to this thread. ================== June 12, 2007 - I started a thread asking about differences I had found in two different Nakamichi BX-300 cassette decks. (QUESTION -- For Nakamichi Experts) June 13, 2007 - I THANKED two people for their responses to this thread. ================== Nov. 6, 2007 - I started a thread asking for help with an issue I had with an older Technics receiver. (QUESTION: FM Stereo Sensitivity) Nov 6 & 7, 2007 - I THANKED several responders for their help and tips. (NOTE: This FM Stereo Sensitivity thread was not posted to uk.rec.audio but was posted to the other three newsgroups.) ================== January 6, 2008 - I started a thread asking how to determine the proper polarity of the DC voltage input on an Ariston turntable. (QUESTION: Ariston Turntable Voltage Polarity) January 8, 2008 - I THANKED everyone for their input and assistance. All four of these threads were found by doing a newsgroup search that took all of a MINUTE. I guess one minute is much too long for your short attention span? No special equipment or technique was used to get these search results. These several examples of my gratitude--which are EASILY found in the newsgroups if one knows how to do a search, regardless of how new (or old) one's "new" computer might be--clearly contradict your original assertions about me, so my original statement to you still stands: YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ YOUR READER, ASSHOLE. Probably the most pathetic thing about your entire argument is that you feel qualified to comment on my newsgroup behavior while you freely admit that you have done practically NOTHING to get a more representative overview of my behavior; instead you simply chalk it up to your supposed "new" computer not search back far enough. If you, your "new" computer, or your "new" computer's software can't even do a simple newsgroup search, then one of you desperately needs a recall. And lest you forget, one of my examples of gratitude in my search results given above is from JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. (The thread about the Ariston turntable voltage polarity.) I made it a POINT to post the Ariston turntable question in ukra, since the Ariston turntable in question was made in Scotland! How did your "new" computer manage to miss THAT one, my friend? Once again I say, if TWENTY SECONDS is all it takes for you to make up your little mind about someone, AND since you really don't even care to get your facts straight when you DO make up your little mind about someone--God help anyone else who is unfortunate enough to cross paths with you. I said the following: Why couldn't he have been equally diligent in finding my much more recent posts, where I was quite careful to thank those who had helped me? To which you replied: In ukra? There weren't any. I think we can now both agree that this is a lie. If you shut your eyes to something, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. My gratitude is shown repeatedly in ukra, in more than one thread. You simply didn't choose to see it (and don't blame it on your "new" computer or its software, either). as I was just about to unsubscribe ukra anyway, I'd have done better to let it pass. Yes, especially when you consider that when you didn't let it pass, you instead chose to put forth a STATISTICALLY INCORRECT conclusion, based on FLAWED reasoning, fueled by a PATHETICALLY INSUFFICIENT amount of data that was collected, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, in what could only be described as the most cursory of searches. If there had been more posts from you (ie as an *ukra contributor*) instead of just one more example of what appeared to be extremely selfish behaviour I wouldn't have replied at all. Hmm...Sorry, I don't remember seeing the rule book about who can and cannot post in ukra. I didn't know that only "contributors" were allowed to post. I had no idea that questions weren't permitted. I'm still waiting to see that "Internet Police" badge of yours....still waiting...... ...I care (cared) about the lack of acknowledgement because it came at the end of a long career of assisting no end of people over the last few years (in ukra) - usually/mostly without acknowledgement. Came at the wrong time, that's all.... Oh, so ukra was your CAREER, was it? Sorry to **** all over your retirement party with my boorish shenanigans. Geez, can you whine even louder next time? I help people all the time on the internet, but unlike yourself, I have better things to do with my time than to care whether or not those people "properly" thank me. It's nice when I do get thanked, but it doesn't rain on my parade if I don't get a "thank you" card. That's not why I help people. I help them because I like to be nice whenever I can, to whomever deserves it. Next time, help someone WITHOUT strings attached, and you will have fewer ulcers. The giving's the thing, maaan......seriously. Vicious? I don't think so - especially not in the light of your 'asshole' response.... One thing that is so great about people like you is that you are so incredibly predictable. You are extremely sensitive about comments made about you, and at the same time you are oblivious to comments you make about others. A textbook case of self-centered immaturity. In the VERY FIRST comment you ever made about me, in the midst of insinuating I was a freeloader asking for free advice, AND that I was ungrateful, AND that I only concern myself with "dodgy gear", you call me a "crossposting clown" -- how did you think that was going to be received? In all forms of social interaction, be it on the internet or face to face, one truism remains constant: YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU GIVE. If you still haven't realized this at this late stage (and all indications are that you haven't), then you need to do some growing up before you really are beyond hope. Don't - if I thought I was wrong anywhere in that thread I wouldn't have posted. Wasn't helped by your pal Meat Wanka swinging in to ukra trying to act the tough guy, but I'll tell you one thing - at least he tried to back you up. Not one member of ukra did the same for me - so **** 'em... That's your whole problem here in a nutshell. You don't think you're wrong, yet you are completely, utterly, spectacularly wrong. On a variety of levels. It would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic. To any reasonable outside observer, I have proven, with concrete evidence, that you were wrong to assert that I don't express gratitude, you were wrong in the methods you employed to reach that conclusion, and on a purely social level, you were wrong to treat me and others the way you have. Why do you think Meat (and others, mind you) tried to help me out during this little confrontation? I don't know any of these people at all. Maybe it's because I don't conduct myself the way that you do. I try to be respectful (and grateful) to everyone who treats me the same way, and I send a big "**** OFF" to the people who consistently mistreat me. I'll say it one more time: YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU GIVE. You say that "not one member of ukra" did the same for you -- and you really, serously don't understand why? I think that I am safe in saying that before this thread, I have never dealt with you before in my life. And looking at the way you have conducted yourself throughout this thread, I can safely say that I never want to deal with you again. And it seems that I am not alone in that sentiment. You need to take a good, long look at yourself and the way you interact with others, and maybe, just MAYBE, you will understand why I (and others) feel this way. Well, it was a long haul, but it seems it did a bit of good in the end. Don't you dare think for one minute that you have taught me anything, except how inept and tactless you are when it comes to dealing with people. You have done me (or anyone) else NO good at all. As I have proven conclusively, I *do* express gratitude when I receive assistance, and one oversight on my part is *not* the basis for any assessment to the contrary. I freely admit to being human and therefore not consistently brilliant and correct 100 percent of the time...but my percentage is still a great deal higher than yours. Next time you're in the wrong and get a bollocking for it try to act less like a spoilt kid and pass the word to Meat Wanka to be careful about gobbing off on someone else's 'home turf' - or someone might follow him home again.... Get your head out of the clouds. YOU are the one in the wrong, not me. I am more than willing to accept a reprimand when I am truly in the wrong and the evidence shows it. I am far more secure with myself than you are in this regard. Unfortunately for you (and others like you), I will *never* be willing to accept any ill-informed attempt to put me down just so you (and others like you) can feel superior. That's not what a bollocking is supposed to be. If I haven't taught you this, I hope that someone does. And I hope it's soon. As for Meat, I will give him no instructions, least of all from such pariahs as yourself. Meat is more than capable of taking care of himself. That's it. I'm done with usenet now and will take this opportunity to nip it off, or it will go on forever.... I have a distinct feeling that you are still checking this thread, even if you never post here again. This time, it's MY turn to say I'm done....REALLY done...with this tired topic. Thanks to everyone (again) who made the HELPFUL responses I found in this thread. |
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