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Toslink sound quality
Hi,
I connected my Gateway 610X media center computer to my Harman Kardon AVR315 (I have B&W CM4 speakers) via the digital optical audio using a Toslink cable. http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/TVMe...900210nv.shtml http://harmankardon.com/product_deta...%20135&sType=C http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I am getting the mid ranges and the trebles but I am not getting any bass. What do you think is the problem? |
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Well, whatever you're doing, it's NOT the cable. Digital is digital, if
you're hearing anything at all that sounds remotely like you expect it to, then it's not the cable. A digital cable will not selectively drop high or low frequencies. On 2005-02-02 17:02:01 +1100, "nash123" said: Hi, I connected my Gateway 610X media center computer to my Harman Kardon AVR315 (I have B&W CM4 speakers) via the digital optical audio using a Toslink cable. http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/TVMe...900210nv.shtml http://harmankardon.com/product_deta...%20135&sType=C http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I I am getting the mid ranges and the trebles but I am not getting any bass. What do you think is the problem? |
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In rec.audio.tech nash123 wrote:
I connected my Gateway 610X media center computer to my Harman Kardon AVR315 (I have B&W CM4 speakers) via the digital optical audio using a Toslink cable. http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/TVMe...900210nv.shtml http://harmankardon.com/product_deta...%20135&sType=C http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I am getting the mid ranges and the trebles but I am not getting any bass. What do you think is the problem? My guess would be that the Gateway * is directing the bass to the subwoofer channel, but you don't have a subwoofer. * it could also be the Harman Kardon, but the default setting is probably to send the bass to both the subwoofer and the front speakers, and if you had changed it you would know. But check page 17 and followings in its manual: http://manuals.harman.com/hk/Owner%27s%20Manual/AVR%20135%20OM%20FINAL(rev%2012-2-04).pdf Some question which would help to diagnose the problem: - what happens with other sources (CD, tuner, etc.) connected to the Harman Kardon ? - what kind of sound are you playing on the Gateway ? Stereo, multichannel (Dolby, DTS) ? - what does the front panel of the Harman Kardon shows ? I looked at it: http://harmankardon.com/front.aspx?p...me=AVR135F.jpg It seems to have the usual displays, showing the channels in which it is receiving signals on the right side. So for instance, if you are listening to stereo, you should see the "L" and "R" displays lighted. If the Gateway is sending the bass to the subwoofer channel, the "LFE" (Low-Frequency Effects) channel should light up. On the left side it seems to show the type of input it is seeing. I am not sure what it will show if the Gateway is sending PCM (nothing ?). -- http://www.mat.uc.pt/~rps/ ..pt is Portugal| `Whom the gods love die young'-Menander (342-292 BC) Europe | Villeneuve 50-82, Toivonen 56-86, Senna 60-94 |
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"nash123" wrote in message
oups.com I connected my Gateway 610X media center computer to my Harman Kardon AVR315 (I have B&W CM4 speakers) via the digital optical audio using a Toslink cable. For openers, the Toslink cable isn't the cause of your problem. This kind of digital interface either transmits nothing or everything. http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/TVMe...900210nv.shtml http://harmankardon.com/product_deta...%20135&sType=C http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I am getting the mid ranges and the trebles but I am not getting any bass. What do you think is the problem? Probably cause - how you have defined the speakers, in the setup feature of the receiver. Your receiver has bass management features that control the frequency ranges sent to various speakers in your system. This is why the bass is not getting through - your receiver is adjusted to not send bass to these speakers. You should define the CM4s to the receiver's bass management for these speakers as being "large" unless you have a really bodacious subwoofer. Please see http://manuals.harman.com/hk/Owner%27s%20Manual/AVR%20135%20OM%20FINAL(rev%2012-2-04).pdf , page 11 item 36 for more information about setting up bass management. Additional information is on page 18. Modern surrund receivers aren's simple little old-fashioned stereo boxes. You should read and understand this entire manual before you proceed. |
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nash123 wrote:
Hi, I connected my Gateway 610X media center computer to my Harman Kardon AVR315 (I have B&W CM4 speakers) via the digital optical audio using a Toslink cable. http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/TVMe...900210nv.shtml http://harmankardon.com/product_deta...%20135&sType=C http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I am getting the mid ranges and the trebles but I am not getting any bass. What do you think is the problem? I'm willing to bet it's your Harman Kardon AV receiver. It's not broken, just mis-configured. Since you're using BW CM4s then the Harmon should be configured to run with stereo speakers only, no subwoofer, no 5.1 7.1 etc. With that configuration, all audio frequencies will go to the left and right channels. CD |
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Hi again,
I should have mentioned in my first email but I had already set the receiver to "surround off", just bare stereo output, with no subwoofer or surround speakers. I also had selected "large" for the floor speakers, so the signal should have included the bass to the speakers. I agree with all that it is a receiver issue but I looked at all options that I could tweak but did not help. I am hoping to find a CD player with optical digital output so that I can try this again but I just could not find one yet. It is still a mystery to me. Codifus wrote: nash123 wrote: Hi, I connected my Gateway 610X media center computer to my Harman Kardon AVR315 (I have B&W CM4 speakers) via the digital optical audio using a Toslink cable. http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/TVMe...900210nv.shtml http://harmankardon.com/product_deta...%20135&sType=C http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...Model%20CM%204 I am getting the mid ranges and the trebles but I am not getting any bass. What do you think is the problem? I'm willing to bet it's your Harman Kardon AV receiver. It's not broken, just mis-configured. Since you're using BW CM4s then the Harmon should be configured to run with stereo speakers only, no subwoofer, no 5.1 7.1 etc. With that configuration, all audio frequencies will go to the left and right channels. CD |
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Sorry I just saw your posting - Like I said, I only have the floor
speakers configured on the AVR, no surround, no subwoofer etc. On regular signals from my CD player (analog) the signal has all treble mid and bass. It is likely that this may be a Gateway issue too, since it has a built in subwoofer. But when I hook up the Toslink, Gateway does not mute, it also plays the song on the speakers. I would have thought only the subwoofer would play since the rest goes to the BW4s, but no. The setting on Windows is set for 2 speakers, it is not set for home theater, so it is probably not Gateway either.. When I select optical input, it shows Optical 1 only. It does not have anything to do with DVD or CD selection. So the screen shows DVD/Optical 1 or CD/Optical 1, but it would still play. On the left side, since I turn all surround off, nothing shows up. Also I do not see LFE since I turned that off also. |
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Update - I hooked up a DVD player through optical and everything plays
fine. So it is the Gateway's settings. I looked everywhere but could not find a way to release the basses. |
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nash123 wrote:
Update - I hooked up a DVD player through optical and everything plays fine. So it is the Gateway's settings. I looked everywhere but could not find a way to release the basses. That would have been my 2nd suggestion Good move on trying the DVD player. CD |
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