[Steven Woody]

Hi,

What are your suggestion on how to effectively burn-in a new
loudspeaker ( cost $1000 a pair )? I am thinking use a CD that
contains white noise and pink noise and put it into the CD player. It
that good? And, pink and white, which one is better?

Thanks.

-
woody

[GregS[_3_]]

In article , Steven Woody wrote:
Hi,

What are your suggestion on how to effectively burn-in a new
loudspeaker ( cost $1000 a pair )? I am thinking use a CD that
contains white noise and pink noise and put it into the CD player. It
that good? And, pink and white, which one is better?


If you want to burn it out, plug it into the wall outlet.

Pink is kinda gay.

Jusy plain pink noise will sometimes help the epoxies and glues to
cure with enough power applied. You probably want to put ear muffs
on. Your trying to burn out the tweeters with white noise.


greg

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

Steven Woody wrote:
Hi,

What are your suggestion on how to effectively burn-in a new
loudspeaker ( cost $1000 a pair )? I am thinking use a CD that
contains white noise and pink noise and put it into the CD player. It
that good? And, pink and white, which one is better?

Thanks.

-
woody


I'm thinking Led Zeppelin would do just fine.

--




"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous
mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it
is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

[Eeyore]

Steven Woody wrote:

Hi,

What are your suggestion on how to effectively burn-in a new
loudspeaker ( cost $1000 a pair )? I am thinking use a CD that
contains white noise and pink noise and put it into the CD player. It
that good? And, pink and white, which one is better?

Entirely irrelevant. Loudspeakers don't need burning any more than cables
or CDs do. Sometimes the bass driver's resonant frequency may shift down a
few Hz as the suspension gets exercised but that's your lot.


Graham

[Eeyore]

"WindsorFox" wrote:

Steven Woody wrote:

What are your suggestion on how to effectively burn-in a new
loudspeaker ( cost $1000 a pair )? I am thinking use a CD that
contains white noise and pink noise and put it into the CD player. It
that good? And, pink and white, which one is better?

I'm thinking Led Zeppelin would do just fine.

And then you can actually listen to them at the same time too !

Graham

[BretLudwig]

Tune an AM tuner or receiver to a unused frequency: the hash works fine.
Or just listen to music.

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[George Flanagin]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:13:51 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Entirely irrelevant. Loudspeakers don't need burning any more than
cables or CDs do. Sometimes the bass driver's resonant frequency may
shift down a few Hz as the suspension gets exercised but that's your
lot.


I would add that there is one other case in which a few hours of pink
noise might be a good idea: new or repaired electrostatics. I have a write
up on my experiences on my website (www.georgeflanagin.com/
ultracurve.php), including some of the measurements.

The short version is that with electrostatics a slight "permanent" charge
that can be acquired during assembly. Blasting the speaker with pink noise
for a while (several hours) will create small amounts of ozone that will
equalize the charge on the panel.

george

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

Eeyore wrote:

Steven Woody wrote:

Hi,

What are your suggestion on how to effectively burn-in a new
loudspeaker ( cost $1000 a pair )? I am thinking use a CD that
contains white noise and pink noise and put it into the CD player. It
that good? And, pink and white, which one is better?

Entirely irrelevant. Loudspeakers don't need burning any more than cables
or CDs do. Sometimes the bass driver's resonant frequency may shift down a
few Hz as the suspension gets exercised but that's your lot.


Graham


You mean you DON'T burn in your pre-amp connects???? gasp

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"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous
mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it
is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

[Steven Woody]

On Apr 16, 1:49 am, "BretLudwig" wrote:
Tune an AM tuner or receiver to a unused frequency: the hash works fine.
Or just listen to music.

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More information athttp://www.talkaboutaudio.com/faq.html

I will putting it on a radio receiver... but that is the same thing as
white noise, is it?

[Eeyore]

Steven Woody wrote:

"BretLudwig" wrote:
Tune an AM tuner or receiver to a unused frequency: the hash works fine.
Or just listen to music.

I will putting it on a radio receiver... but that is the same thing as
white noise, is it?

Nearly.

What's wrong with tuning it to music or speech ?

It won't change anything anyway. All this 'burning in' stuff is simply more
voodoo nonsense from people who want to rip you off.

Graham

[Clyde Slick]

On 16 Apr, 01:52, Eeyore
wrote:



It won't change anything anyway. All this 'burning in' stuff is simply more
voodoo nonsense from people who want to rip you off.


Thar's right, burning in speakers is a real rip off, costs lts of
money, it does.

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Apr 15, 9:13 pm, Steven Woody wrote:
On Apr 16, 1:49 am, "BretLudwig" wrote:
Tune an AM tuner or receiver to a unused frequency:
the hash works fine. Or just listen to music.

I will putting it on a radio receiver... but that is the same
thing as white noise, is it?

The problem with using a tuner as a noise source is
that the low frequencies will probably be rolled-off, and
you need low frequencies to exercise the woofer's
spider/suspension. Best to use pink noise from a
Test CD. Or listen to music with high-level LF
content.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" wrote in
message

On Apr 15, 9:13 pm, Steven Woody
wrote:
On Apr 16, 1:49 am, "BretLudwig"
wrote:
Tune an AM tuner or receiver to a unused frequency:
the hash works fine. Or just listen to music.

I will putting it on a radio receiver... but that is the
same thing as white noise, is it?

The problem with using a tuner as a noise source is
that the low frequencies will probably be rolled-off, and
you need low frequencies to exercise the woofer's
spider/suspension. Best to use pink noise from a
Test CD. Or listen to music with high-level LF
content.

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you play sound through a
speaker there are temporary effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle
for some time, the temporary effects largely revert to nothing. When people
"break in" audio components, it is their perceptions that change the most.
It's called acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Apr 16, 8:24*am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote in

The problem with using a tuner as a noise source is
that the low frequencies will probably be rolled-off, and
you need low frequencies to exercise the woofer's
spider/suspension. Best to use pink noise from a
Test CD. Or listen to music with high-level LF
content.

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth...

No, that's incorrect.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Eeyore]

John Atkinson wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote

The problem with using a tuner as a noise source is
that the low frequencies will probably be rolled-off, and
you need low frequencies to exercise the woofer's
spider/suspension. Best to use pink noise from a
Test CD. Or listen to music with high-level LF
content.

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth...

No, that's incorrect.

Do please elaborate.

Graham

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

John Atkinson said:

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth...

No, that's incorrect.

Thnak's Jonh for, amoitdditing Johh that, its like your to deaf for an
easter egg hunt Jhon. What a Muiddis you are, its LOL. Come back when,
you get your first obviously clue Aktonisn. I'm ROOTFLMOO at you're
wierd "audiophile" beliefs Jonn.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Poopie is frightened by the Big Bad Audio Publisher.

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth...

No, that's incorrect.

Do please elaborate.

Do you want the the short version or the long one?

[Arny Krueger]

"Herbert Viola" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you
play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing. When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

I frequently hear this argument yet I have never come to
like equipment which I did not like in the beginning.

I explained that:

" When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse."

At the same time, I have never heard new equipment improve
its sound with use.

I don't know how that works with what you said first. Please explain.

[bassett[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you play sound through a
speaker there are temporary effects, but if you allow the speaker to be
idle for some time, the temporary effects largely revert to nothing. When
people "break in" audio components, it is their perceptions that change
the most. It's called acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

More uniformed rubbish from Krueger.

The excepted way to burn in speakers, is to set them up facing each other,
about 12 inches apart, reverse the polarity on one speaker, Cover with a
blanket, and put any CD in the player, set it up to repeat set the Amp
on medium volume, and leave it for 8 hours.
Using this system, it works on the push pull system and having the
blanket, encases the speakers, there by setting up a vacuum, which eases
the coil movement of the speakers


bassett

[Arny Krueger]

"bassett" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you
play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing. When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

More uniformed rubbish from Krueger.

The excepted way to burn in speakers,

A little word study for you, Bassett:

except

–preposition 1.with the exclusion of; excluding; save; but:

Bassett, you make it sound like burning-in speakers is excluded, which of
course I agree with.

[bassett[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"bassett" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you
play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing. When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

More uniformed rubbish from Krueger.

The excepted way to burn in speakers,

A little word study for you, Bassett:

except

-preposition 1.with the exclusion of; excluding; save; but:

Bassett, you make it sound like burning-in speakers is excluded, which of
course I agree with.

Is that the best you can come up with , Bloody pathetic, When you 've got
constructive criticism,
come back, till then keep your mouth shut and **** off,
Why is it I always score the arrogant ****'s

bassett

[Arny Krueger]

"Soundhaspriority" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
"Herbert Viola" wrote in message

In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:

Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you
play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing. When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

I frequently hear this argument yet I have never come
to like equipment which I did not like in the beginning.

I explained that:

" When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse."

What you mention is undoubtedly true, but driver breakin
is a reality.

It is a reality within the limits stated above.

If you play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing.

[Arny Krueger]

"bassett" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"bassett" wrote in
message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Actually, speaker break-in is largely a myth. If you
play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects, but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing. When people "break in" audio components, it is
their perceptions that change the most. It's called
acclimatization and cessation of buyer's remorse.

More uniformed rubbish from Krueger.

The excepted way to burn in speakers,

A little word study for you, Bassett:

except

-preposition 1.with the exclusion of; excluding; save;
but: Bassett, you make it sound like burning-in speakers is
excluded, which of course I agree with.

Is that the best you can come up with , Bloody pathetic, When you 've got
constructive criticism,
come back, till then keep your mouth shut and **** off,
Why is it I always score the arrogant ****'s

The constructive criticism was given above:

If you play sound through a speaker there are temporary
effects,

Furthermore these effects happen within the first few seconds that you play
the speaker.

but if you allow the speaker to be idle for
some time, the temporary effects largely revert to
nothing.

IOW, special lengthy efforts to break in a speaker are futile.

Your best move is to start enjoying the music ASAP!

[Clyde Slick]

On 20 Apr, 07:28, "Arny Krueger" wrote:


Your best move is to start enjoying the music ASAP!-

and to enjoy it even more a week later.