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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium
Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? |
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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
"Howard Davis" wrote in message
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? Pay the $99 for the upgrade. That gives you full-tilt Adobe Audition for less than $200 out-of-pocket, a deal and a half. |
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"Howard Davis" wrote in message
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? Pay the $99 for the upgrade. That gives you full-tilt Adobe Audition for less than $200 out-of-pocket, a deal and a half. |
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Howard Davis wrote:
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? Have you tried getting your money back from the place you bought it? I agree - this is crap. Adobe should support the existing Syntrillium customers. I will remember this. -- % Randy Yates % "...the answer lies within your soul %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % 'cause no one knows which side %%% 919-577-9882 % the coin will fall." %%%% % 'Big Wheels', *Out of the Blue*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr |
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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
Howard Davis wrote:
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? Have you tried getting your money back from the place you bought it? I agree - this is crap. Adobe should support the existing Syntrillium customers. I will remember this. -- % Randy Yates % "...the answer lies within your soul %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % 'cause no one knows which side %%% 919-577-9882 % the coin will fall." %%%% % 'Big Wheels', *Out of the Blue*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr |
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"Randy Yates" wrote in message link.net... Howard Davis wrote: A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? Have you tried getting your money back from the place you bought it? I agree - this is crap. Adobe should support the existing Syntrillium customers. I will remember this. **Yeah, like that'll bother them. I dropped 600 Bucks on a (reasonably) high end video card, a few years ago. The company never released decent drivers for the damned card. I swore that I would never buy a Diamond product ever again. Like that worried them. I gave up and bought an 80 Dollar card which performed better, around 18 months later. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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"Randy Yates" wrote in message link.net... Howard Davis wrote: A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? Have you tried getting your money back from the place you bought it? I agree - this is crap. Adobe should support the existing Syntrillium customers. I will remember this. **Yeah, like that'll bother them. I dropped 600 Bucks on a (reasonably) high end video card, a few years ago. The company never released decent drivers for the damned card. I swore that I would never buy a Diamond product ever again. Like that worried them. I gave up and bought an 80 Dollar card which performed better, around 18 months later. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
[...] **Yeah, like that'll bother them. I really don't care if it bothers them or not. That is not my concern. My concern is that I buy products, and influence my company to buy products, from sources that honor their agreements. Otherwise you may very well be throwing money away, as Howard did. -- % Randy Yates % "...the answer lies within your soul %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % 'cause no one knows which side %%% 919-577-9882 % the coin will fall." %%%% % 'Big Wheels', *Out of the Blue*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr |
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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
Trevor Wilson wrote:
[...] **Yeah, like that'll bother them. I really don't care if it bothers them or not. That is not my concern. My concern is that I buy products, and influence my company to buy products, from sources that honor their agreements. Otherwise you may very well be throwing money away, as Howard did. -- % Randy Yates % "...the answer lies within your soul %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % 'cause no one knows which side %%% 919-577-9882 % the coin will fall." %%%% % 'Big Wheels', *Out of the Blue*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr |
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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
"Howard Davis" cross-posted to several groups:
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? I have no suggestions for getting a better response from Adobe and can't help you with your problem of "importing Feurio files" because I don't know what a "Feurio file" is. Furthermore, since it worked for you before, you can't blame the software without first reviewing what has changed in your environment. I do know that Adobe doesn't offer a Cool2000 upgrade at all, so I don't know what you're talking about there either. The $99 upgrade to Audition is a bargain. Although it's billed as a new name for CE pro, it actually has many improvements over the final version of CE pro and, in my environment, I find these improvements very valuable and welcome. As the word spreads, I expect it will leave the competition in the dust. |
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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
"Howard Davis" cross-posted to several groups:
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. Any suggestions? I have no suggestions for getting a better response from Adobe and can't help you with your problem of "importing Feurio files" because I don't know what a "Feurio file" is. Furthermore, since it worked for you before, you can't blame the software without first reviewing what has changed in your environment. I do know that Adobe doesn't offer a Cool2000 upgrade at all, so I don't know what you're talking about there either. The $99 upgrade to Audition is a bargain. Although it's billed as a new name for CE pro, it actually has many improvements over the final version of CE pro and, in my environment, I find these improvements very valuable and welcome. As the word spreads, I expect it will leave the competition in the dust. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:48:24 GMT, "Howard Davis"
wrote: A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. OK, there are many issues raised here, and my opinions won't seem to be congruent with others who have posted here, but bear with me.... 1. CE2000 is probably the finest 2-channel audio editor that was ever available at a reasonable price. The fact that you managed to acquire a copy briefly before Adobe snatched it away from us is, in my view, a positive result. Far from a big mistake. If you genuinely feel you don't want it any more, I'm sure that if you offered it for sale you would have hundreds of people lining up to take it off your hands for the full price you paid. (You will, of course, have to sell it to only one person, and remove it from your own PC). 2. The fact that CE2000 refuses to import a file created by Feurio is surprising. What format do you expect that file to be in? In my experience, CE2000 successfully reads a wide variety of file formats, and even if it can't recognise the header, it will allow you to import it "raw" by explicitly saying what the word depth, sample rate, etc are. 3. Unless you need multi-track capability, I don't really see what the point would be of upgrading to Adobe Audition. 4. Your point about support is a good one. Adobe have not done the decent thing, here. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:48:24 GMT, "Howard Davis"
wrote: A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. Seeking support on the linked website, I'm told that Adobe Systems purchased the "technology assets" of Syntrillium last May (before I bought the software), has discontinued Cool Edit 2000, and does not support it. They do however sell an upgrade for $99, or their new Adobe Audition for $299! This is a ripoff. I paid for this software just a few months ago. I should be entitled to either tech support or at least a partial refund for its becoming defective so soon. OK, there are many issues raised here, and my opinions won't seem to be congruent with others who have posted here, but bear with me.... 1. CE2000 is probably the finest 2-channel audio editor that was ever available at a reasonable price. The fact that you managed to acquire a copy briefly before Adobe snatched it away from us is, in my view, a positive result. Far from a big mistake. If you genuinely feel you don't want it any more, I'm sure that if you offered it for sale you would have hundreds of people lining up to take it off your hands for the full price you paid. (You will, of course, have to sell it to only one person, and remove it from your own PC). 2. The fact that CE2000 refuses to import a file created by Feurio is surprising. What format do you expect that file to be in? In my experience, CE2000 successfully reads a wide variety of file formats, and even if it can't recognise the header, it will allow you to import it "raw" by explicitly saying what the word depth, sample rate, etc are. 3. Unless you need multi-track capability, I don't really see what the point would be of upgrading to Adobe Audition. 4. Your point about support is a good one. Adobe have not done the decent thing, here. |
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"Howard Davis" wrote in message
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. How do you know that the problem isn't Feurio's fault or a fault of your procedures? What sort of support are you getting from the people who support Feurio? |
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"Howard Davis" wrote in message
A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. How do you know that the problem isn't Feurio's fault or a fault of your procedures? What sort of support are you getting from the people who support Feurio? |
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Recently, Clive Backham posted:
I agree with your points with the exception of these: 3. Unless you need multi-track capability, I don't really see what the point would be of upgrading to Adobe Audition. Since you don't *lose* capability by going with Audition, what you *gain* is continued support for an application that is still alive. It's completely possible to use Audition without ever seeing the multi-track view. Sure, CE2000 is a great app. CEP / Audition is better, and the upgrade price from Adobe is quite generous. In short, you'll get an app that you won't be able to beat for $1,000 for under $200 total. 4. Your point about support is a good one. Adobe have not done the decent thing, here. I disagree completely with this. It more than likely was the deal that was struck between Syntrillium and Adobe that short-changed the CE2000 community. As Adobe wasn't interested in CE2000, Syntrillium may have been able to retain that app along with the utilities that also got dumped. However, continued support and/or development may not have been possible without the technology that went into CEP. So, they were between a rock and a hard place. It's not about being "decent". So, those insisting that CE2000 is/was all they ever needed have but to retain their copies of that app. It will do everythinig it ever did into the foreseable future. Neil |
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Recently, Clive Backham posted:
I agree with your points with the exception of these: 3. Unless you need multi-track capability, I don't really see what the point would be of upgrading to Adobe Audition. Since you don't *lose* capability by going with Audition, what you *gain* is continued support for an application that is still alive. It's completely possible to use Audition without ever seeing the multi-track view. Sure, CE2000 is a great app. CEP / Audition is better, and the upgrade price from Adobe is quite generous. In short, you'll get an app that you won't be able to beat for $1,000 for under $200 total. 4. Your point about support is a good one. Adobe have not done the decent thing, here. I disagree completely with this. It more than likely was the deal that was struck between Syntrillium and Adobe that short-changed the CE2000 community. As Adobe wasn't interested in CE2000, Syntrillium may have been able to retain that app along with the utilities that also got dumped. However, continued support and/or development may not have been possible without the technology that went into CEP. So, they were between a rock and a hard place. It's not about being "decent". So, those insisting that CE2000 is/was all they ever needed have but to retain their copies of that app. It will do everythinig it ever did into the foreseable future. Neil |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
link.net Recently, posted: The $99 upgrade to Audition is a bargain. Although it's billed as a new name for CE pro, it actually has many improvements over the final version of CE pro and, in my environment, I find these improvements very valuable and welcome. There may be *improvements*, but the one that is most visible to me is the Adobe name, which I value at about $0.00. Could you elaborate on this a bit? As a CEP 2.1 user, I've downloaded Audition, but haven't installed it because I understand that Adobe extracted the CD burning tool, for one. Well, the CD burning tool was beta-test, and it is a little rough around the edges. That all said I've swum past the rough edges and use it routinely for mastering new work. That seems like a "downgrade" to me. I was hoping that Adobe with all their great programming and system analysis resources would take the beta test burner "all the way" to production, but that didn't happen. Yet. It may never happen, or it may. Who knows? However, if there are really improvements over CEP 2.1, I may be tempted to go ahead and try it out. I've got both and use both interchangeably, except of course I have to account for the deletion of the beta CD burning tool from Audition. |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
link.net Recently, posted: The $99 upgrade to Audition is a bargain. Although it's billed as a new name for CE pro, it actually has many improvements over the final version of CE pro and, in my environment, I find these improvements very valuable and welcome. There may be *improvements*, but the one that is most visible to me is the Adobe name, which I value at about $0.00. Could you elaborate on this a bit? As a CEP 2.1 user, I've downloaded Audition, but haven't installed it because I understand that Adobe extracted the CD burning tool, for one. Well, the CD burning tool was beta-test, and it is a little rough around the edges. That all said I've swum past the rough edges and use it routinely for mastering new work. That seems like a "downgrade" to me. I was hoping that Adobe with all their great programming and system analysis resources would take the beta test burner "all the way" to production, but that didn't happen. Yet. It may never happen, or it may. Who knows? However, if there are really improvements over CEP 2.1, I may be tempted to go ahead and try it out. I've got both and use both interchangeably, except of course I have to account for the deletion of the beta CD burning tool from Audition. |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
hlink.net It more than likely was the deal that was struck between Syntrillium and Adobe that short-changed the CE2000 community. At least in the short term. Adobe could turn around and re-release CE2000 as "Audition Lite" or some such. They've got a track record for doing such a thing. As Adobe wasn't interested in CE2000, Syntrillium may have been able to retain that app along with the utilities that also got dumped. The early news releases sounded to me like that might be in the offing. I seem to recall reading words like: Buy the technology. But in the end, it seems to me like Adobe bought Syntrillium lock, stock and barrel. The earlier statements might have had the purpose of *helping* the negotiations. They were no doubt true, but there are shadings of meanings... However, continued support and/or development may not have been possible without the technology that went into CEP. So, they were between a rock and a hard place. It's not about being "decent". This sort of thing is known as "A Business Decision". Sometimes an oxymoron, nevertheless, stuff happens. So, those insisting that CE2000 is/was all they ever needed have but to retain their copies of that app. It will do everything it ever did into the foreseeable future. Yup, although the upgrade paths that used to cost like $30 and up got coalesced into one big bite at $99. |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
hlink.net It more than likely was the deal that was struck between Syntrillium and Adobe that short-changed the CE2000 community. At least in the short term. Adobe could turn around and re-release CE2000 as "Audition Lite" or some such. They've got a track record for doing such a thing. As Adobe wasn't interested in CE2000, Syntrillium may have been able to retain that app along with the utilities that also got dumped. The early news releases sounded to me like that might be in the offing. I seem to recall reading words like: Buy the technology. But in the end, it seems to me like Adobe bought Syntrillium lock, stock and barrel. The earlier statements might have had the purpose of *helping* the negotiations. They were no doubt true, but there are shadings of meanings... However, continued support and/or development may not have been possible without the technology that went into CEP. So, they were between a rock and a hard place. It's not about being "decent". This sort of thing is known as "A Business Decision". Sometimes an oxymoron, nevertheless, stuff happens. So, those insisting that CE2000 is/was all they ever needed have but to retain their copies of that app. It will do everything it ever did into the foreseeable future. Yup, although the upgrade paths that used to cost like $30 and up got coalesced into one big bite at $99. |
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Recently, Arny Krueger posted:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message Could you elaborate on this a bit? As a CEP 2.1 user, I've downloaded Audition, but haven't installed it because I understand that Adobe extracted the CD burning tool, for one. Well, the CD burning tool was beta-test, and it is a little rough around the edges. That all said I've swum past the rough edges and use it routinely for mastering new work. Same here, except that I haven't found rough edges so much as a paradigm shift in the way that it works compared to other products. That said, its integration into CEP is marvelous, as I can go straight from full 32-bit mixes to CD in one step, with all my preferences for SRC applied on the fly. I don't to want lose that capability unless compensated by some other "must haves" that make it worth the extra effort. So far, I haven't discovered those "improvements", hence my question. I've got both and use both interchangeably, except of course I have to account for the deletion of the beta CD burning tool from Audition. So, there is no problem with having both installed simultaneously? If that's true, I may go ahead and do so just to get familiar with it. Regards, Neil |
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Recently, Arny Krueger posted:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message Could you elaborate on this a bit? As a CEP 2.1 user, I've downloaded Audition, but haven't installed it because I understand that Adobe extracted the CD burning tool, for one. Well, the CD burning tool was beta-test, and it is a little rough around the edges. That all said I've swum past the rough edges and use it routinely for mastering new work. Same here, except that I haven't found rough edges so much as a paradigm shift in the way that it works compared to other products. That said, its integration into CEP is marvelous, as I can go straight from full 32-bit mixes to CD in one step, with all my preferences for SRC applied on the fly. I don't to want lose that capability unless compensated by some other "must haves" that make it worth the extra effort. So far, I haven't discovered those "improvements", hence my question. I've got both and use both interchangeably, except of course I have to account for the deletion of the beta CD burning tool from Audition. So, there is no problem with having both installed simultaneously? If that's true, I may go ahead and do so just to get familiar with it. Regards, Neil |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
hlink.net Recently, Arny Krueger posted: I've got both and use both interchangeably, except of course I have to account for the deletion of the beta CD burning tool from Audition. So, there is no problem with having both installed simultaneously? If that's true, I may go ahead and do so just to get familiar with it. The only place they interfere that I know of is that setting changes in Audition seem to show up in CEP 2.1 and vice-versa. That's either a bug or a feature depending on your preferences. |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
hlink.net Recently, Arny Krueger posted: I've got both and use both interchangeably, except of course I have to account for the deletion of the beta CD burning tool from Audition. So, there is no problem with having both installed simultaneously? If that's true, I may go ahead and do so just to get familiar with it. The only place they interfere that I know of is that setting changes in Audition seem to show up in CEP 2.1 and vice-versa. That's either a bug or a feature depending on your preferences. |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
**Yeah, like that'll bother them. I dropped 600 Bucks on a (reasonably) high end video card, a few years ago. Video cards are a very volatile market. Also people should note that this is $Au, not $US. Exchange is something around 2:1. The company never released decent drivers for the damned card. I swore that I would never buy a Diamond product ever again. Like that worried them. I gave up and bought an 80 Dollar card which performed better, around 18 months later. There is some justice. Try finding a new model Diamond video card for sale. AFAIK, mission impossible. If I've got this right, Diamond changed their name to Sonic Blue and now mostly pump MP3 players. |
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Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 - support?
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
**Yeah, like that'll bother them. I dropped 600 Bucks on a (reasonably) high end video card, a few years ago. Video cards are a very volatile market. Also people should note that this is $Au, not $US. Exchange is something around 2:1. The company never released decent drivers for the damned card. I swore that I would never buy a Diamond product ever again. Like that worried them. I gave up and bought an 80 Dollar card which performed better, around 18 months later. There is some justice. Try finding a new model Diamond video card for sale. AFAIK, mission impossible. If I've got this right, Diamond changed their name to Sonic Blue and now mostly pump MP3 players. |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:41:43 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: The only place they interfere that I know of is that setting changes in Audition seem to show up in CEP 2.1 and vice-versa. That's either a bug or a feature depending on your preferences. That's somehow strange as CEP 2.1 stores the settings in the environ- ment of the user (at least in Windows XP) in the folder Application Data - Syntrillium - Cooledit Pro - 2.1 - cool.ini, coolcust.ini etc. while Audion settings are stored in Application Data - Adobe - Audition - 1.0 - Audcust.ini etc. Other data is stored in the Registry, but different keywords are used there as well. The only major difference I found between the programs is the different naming of the native board - I have to use the system clipboard to copy data between the two. I use both programs quite often, usually one active instance of each. As both programms look somewhat different, it's easier for me the see which program is active when I switch programs. I've never missed the CD burning capabilites of CEP as I use Feurio for that. It has lots of features to assist in layouting the CD. Otoh I seldom use the track editor of Feurio which is rather simple. Norbert |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:41:43 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: The only place they interfere that I know of is that setting changes in Audition seem to show up in CEP 2.1 and vice-versa. That's either a bug or a feature depending on your preferences. That's somehow strange as CEP 2.1 stores the settings in the environ- ment of the user (at least in Windows XP) in the folder Application Data - Syntrillium - Cooledit Pro - 2.1 - cool.ini, coolcust.ini etc. while Audion settings are stored in Application Data - Adobe - Audition - 1.0 - Audcust.ini etc. Other data is stored in the Registry, but different keywords are used there as well. The only major difference I found between the programs is the different naming of the native board - I have to use the system clipboard to copy data between the two. I use both programs quite often, usually one active instance of each. As both programms look somewhat different, it's easier for me the see which program is active when I switch programs. I've never missed the CD burning capabilites of CEP as I use Feurio for that. It has lots of features to assist in layouting the CD. Otoh I seldom use the track editor of Feurio which is rather simple. Norbert |
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"Norbert Hahn" wrote in message
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:41:43 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: The only place they interfere that I know of is that setting changes in Audition seem to show up in CEP 2.1 and vice-versa. That's either a bug or a feature depending on your preferences. That's somehow strange as CEP 2.1 stores the settings in the environ- ment of the user (at least in Windows XP) in the folder Application Data - Syntrillium - Cooledit Pro - 2.1 - cool.ini, coolcust.ini etc. while Audion settings are stored in Application Data - Adobe - Audition - 1.0 - Audcust.ini etc. Yeah, I'm aware of that, so that's why I've been scratching my head. Thanks for confirming my analysis. Other data is stored in the Registry, but different keywords are used there as well. The only major difference I found between the programs is the different naming of the native board - I have to use the system clipboard to copy data between the two. Agreed. I use both programs quite often, usually one active instance of each. As both programms look somewhat different, it's easier for me the see which program is active when I switch programs. I generally use one at a time, but yes they do run side-by-side for me, too. I've never missed the CD burning capabilities of CEP as I use Feurio for that. It has lots of features to assist in layouting the CD. Otoh I seldom use the track editor of Feurio which is rather simple. It's been a while since I last used Feurio. It's nice when CD interfaces are built into the tool (e.g., Apple iTunes) - and CEP 2.1 + the beta burner did that. I hope it's coming back. |
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"Norbert Hahn" wrote in message
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:41:43 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: The only place they interfere that I know of is that setting changes in Audition seem to show up in CEP 2.1 and vice-versa. That's either a bug or a feature depending on your preferences. That's somehow strange as CEP 2.1 stores the settings in the environ- ment of the user (at least in Windows XP) in the folder Application Data - Syntrillium - Cooledit Pro - 2.1 - cool.ini, coolcust.ini etc. while Audion settings are stored in Application Data - Adobe - Audition - 1.0 - Audcust.ini etc. Yeah, I'm aware of that, so that's why I've been scratching my head. Thanks for confirming my analysis. Other data is stored in the Registry, but different keywords are used there as well. The only major difference I found between the programs is the different naming of the native board - I have to use the system clipboard to copy data between the two. Agreed. I use both programs quite often, usually one active instance of each. As both programms look somewhat different, it's easier for me the see which program is active when I switch programs. I generally use one at a time, but yes they do run side-by-side for me, too. I've never missed the CD burning capabilities of CEP as I use Feurio for that. It has lots of features to assist in layouting the CD. Otoh I seldom use the track editor of Feurio which is rather simple. It's been a while since I last used Feurio. It's nice when CD interfaces are built into the tool (e.g., Apple iTunes) - and CEP 2.1 + the beta burner did that. I hope it's coming back. |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message ...
I swore that I would never buy a Diamond product ever again. Like that worried them. Well... where is Diamond today? I think the answer is "nowhere". |
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message ...
I swore that I would never buy a Diamond product ever again. Like that worried them. Well... where is Diamond today? I think the answer is "nowhere". |
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Arny Krueger ) in article 0aidnXvERZJGTQqiRVn-
wrote: There is some justice. Try finding a new model Diamond video card for sale. AFAIK, mission impossible. If I've got this right, Diamond changed their name to Sonic Blue and now mostly pump MP3 players. I believe Diamond has been around since the early 80's, and well regarded by many in its day. They're perhaps best known by many these days for defending themselves against the RIAA, who sued them [unsuccessfully] a few years ago to try and prevent the release of the Diamond Rio mp3 player. I don't know all the details, but they've had problems and AFAIK, got bought out by S3 maybe 5 years ago, and S3's name was subsequently changed to Sonic Blue, who filed for bankruptcy this year. I see here that what remains has apparently being scooped up by Best Data Products, Digital Networks, and maybe some others: http://www.diamondmm.com At least they seem to be providing a driver archive for the time being, which IIRC is an improvement over a few months ago when I was looking for drivers for a flakey Diamond Supramax modem (with strong resistance to buying a replacement since its basically just used for faxing once in a blue moon). - Brian |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news "Howard Davis" wrote in message A few months ago - in July - I purchased Cool Edit 2000 from Syntrillium Software. BIG MISTAKE! I used it one time, along with Feurio CD Manager, to do post-production work on a studio recorded master. It took a bit of time but I was successful. Now I am attempting to use it again, but it appears defective, unable to import files from Feurio. How do you know that the problem isn't Feurio's fault or a fault of your procedures? Because I do the same things I did in the past but get no results. I cannot prove it, but the problem appears to be with Cool Edit 2000. What sort of support are you getting from the people who support Feurio? Feurio is FREEware/shareware. I don't expect support for it, but unlike CoolEdit 2000, which I paid to download (I do not have it on CD), it STILL WORKS. |
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