What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your opinions will be
treated with respect. It is a fair question to ask what you think you
might have done to earn that respect.

The rest of you guys, give Mr Krueger the same chance to answer you
would expect him to give you.

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your opinions will be
treated with respect. It is a fair question to ask what you think you
might have done to earn that respect.

The rest of you guys, give Mr Krueger the same chance to answer you
would expect him to give you.

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
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"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review


Andre,

How's that saying go? "Get a life!"

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I do a tiny little
*something* for audio, about the same as anybody else.

You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is a sure thing that my
posts there will be treated with disrespect.

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I do a tiny little
*something* for audio, about the same as anybody else.

You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is a sure thing that my
posts there will be treated with disrespect.


How about ProSoundWeb?

Cheers,

Margaret

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I do a
tiny little *something* for audio, about the same as
anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is a
sure thing that my posts there will be treated with
disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here idiocy, fear and hatred
prevailed.

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I do a
tiny little *something* for audio, about the same as
anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is a
sure thing that my posts there will be treated with
disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here idiocy, fear and
hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Cheers,

Margaret

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I do a
tiny little *something* for audio, about the same as
anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is a
sure thing that my posts there will be treated with
disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I do a
tiny little *something* for audio, about the same as
anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is a
sure thing that my posts there will be treated with
disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.


:-)

I'm sorry for your repeated failures to find a crowd that would tolerate
you. Have you tried a cemetary?

Cheers,

Margaret

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I
do a tiny little *something* for audio, about the
same as anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is
a sure thing that my posts there will be treated with
disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.


:-)

I'm sorry for your repeated failures to find a crowd that
would tolerate you. Have you tried a cemetary?

No Maggie I didn't try a cemetary, I didn't want to chance catching you "in
the act".

Now that's a scary thought!

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I
do a tiny little *something* for audio, about the
same as anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that your
opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it is
a sure thing that my posts there will be treated with
disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.


:-)

I'm sorry for your repeated failures to find a crowd that
would tolerate you. Have you tried a cemetary?

No Maggie I didn't try a cemetary, I didn't want to chance catching you
"in the act".

Which act would that be? Please be more specific so no one misunderstands.


Now that's a scary thought!

Ditto.


Cheers,

Margaret

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I
do a tiny little *something* for audio, about the
same as anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that
your opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it
is a sure thing that my posts there will be
treated with disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.


:-)

I'm sorry for your repeated failures to find a crowd
that would tolerate you. Have you tried a cemetary?

No Maggie I didn't try a cemetary, I didn't want to
chance catching you "in the act".

Which act would that be? Please be more specific so no
one misunderstands.

Normally Maggie, I'd say "Let your conscience be your guide", but you're so
proud of not having one. I just don't know what to say to someone with
ethics as low as yours.

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I
do a tiny little *something* for audio, about the
same as anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that
your opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it
is a sure thing that my posts there will be
treated with disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.


:-)

I'm sorry for your repeated failures to find a crowd
that would tolerate you. Have you tried a cemetary?

No Maggie I didn't try a cemetary, I didn't want to
chance catching you "in the act".

Which act would that be? Please be more specific so no
one misunderstands.

Normally Maggie, I'd say "Let your conscience be your guide", but you're
so proud of not having one. I just don't know what to say to someone with
ethics as low as yours.

So in other words you're immersed in your own fantasies so perverse that you
haven't got the guts to describe them in a rare moment of sanity. But the
reality is that you've been rejected, and ejected, by yet another group of
people. Sad.

With a record like yours, you're unqualified to talk about ethics.

http://lnk.in/34k4


http://lnk.in/34k5


http://lnk.in/34k6


Cheers,

Margaret

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Every time I mix another recording or live event I
do a tiny little *something* for audio, about the
same as anybody else.
You clearly pontificate in the expectation that
your opinions will be treated with respect.

Not at all. Given that I post on RAO and AAPLS it
is a sure thing that my posts there will be
treated with disrespect.

How about ProSoundWeb?

It was fun while it lasted, but as usual around here
idiocy, fear and hatred prevailed.


Just how long/how many posts did it last?

Go look for yourself.


:-)

I'm sorry for your repeated failures to find a crowd
that would tolerate you. Have you tried a cemetary?

No Maggie I didn't try a cemetary, I didn't want to
chance catching you "in the act".

Which act would that be? Please be more specific so no
one misunderstands.

Normally Maggie, I'd say "Let your conscience be your guide", but you're
so proud of not having one. I just don't know what to say to someone with
ethics as low as yours.

So in other words you're immersed in your own fantasies so perverse that
you haven't got the guts to describe them in a rare moment of sanity. But
the reality is that you've been rejected, and ejected, by yet another
group of people. Sad.

With a record like yours, you're unqualified to talk about ethics.

http://lnk.in/34k4


http://lnk.in/34k5


http://lnk.in/34k6


Cheers,

Margaret

We should also remember that, by Arny's account, he was severely beaten,
presumably starting with a verbal altercation. Yet all he remembers is the
medical outcome.

Andre Jute wrote:

What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

As asked, in my opinbion: His web sites. His r.a.t. participation,
repair advice included.

Andre Jute


Kind regards

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:55:45 +0100, Peter Larsen
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Andre Jute wrote:

What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

As asked, in my opinbion: His web sites. His r.a.t. participation,
repair advice included.

Andre Jute


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

The question was what he had done FOR audio, not TO audio.

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wrote:

Andre Jute wrote:

What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

As asked, in my opinbion: His web sites. His r.a.t. participation,
repair advice included.

Andre Jute


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

The question was what he had done FOR audio, not TO audio.

Arny does have some good knowledge and has made some useful contributions to
discussions at times

Sadly he is more well known today for the spectacular results of his mental
illness and his constant humiliation. Before that set in he was a respected
and well-known contributor on domestic hifi and computer soundcards. Since
then he has become nothing more than a figure of fun. Hopefully his friends
(if he has any left) or family will do an intervention on him some time soon
and he will get the help he needs so he can get back to being a useful
contributor, earning back the respect he once had.

Phildo

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Sadly he is more well known today for the spectacular
results of his mental illness and his constant
humiliation.

I'll only tell this to you once, for pretty obvious reasons. So Phildo
listen up!

People who make a bit point of going around calling other people mentally
ill often are a bit unnh overstressed themselves.

People who make a habit of regularly bragging about how they have humiliated
other people obviously have some pretty severe personality issues of their
own.

The hidden irony of that phrase "Paranoid Personality Disorder" is that one
strong symptom of PPD is talking about it all the time, and accusing others
of having it.


If the shoe fits, wear it!

Arny Krueger wrote:

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept, but you
certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer based.


Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.


ABX is a nonsolution to a nonproblem of noninterest to anyone. Why
don't you build a tube amp and have some fun? You will never convince
anyone they don't sound better, any more than you will convince the
Pope the Immaculate Conception is not in the Bible and that Mary was
not beamed up to the celestial starship. Or Margaret that she has a
fishy issue to deal with.

Why don't you build something useful like a car that doesn't rust or a
homebuilt airplane that doesn't take a piece of **** Lycoming engine?
If audio is a solved problem, listen to your QSC amps and do something
different.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:01:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

The hidden irony of that phrase "Paranoid Personality Disorder" is that one
strong symptom of PPD is talking about it all the time, and accusing others
of having it.

You mean, like now?

Or like this:

Dr. Gindi: PARANOID PERSONALITY DISORDER


A. pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their
motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood
and present
in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the
following:


1-suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting,
harming, or deceiving him or her
2- is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
trustworthiness of friends or associates
3- is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear
that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
4- reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign
remarks or events
5-persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults,
injuries, or slights
6- perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are
not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
counterattack
7-has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
fidelity of spouse or sexual partner

Arnold: Is that your excuse, Dr. Gindi?

I guess, in this case, he's just aking acue from a former Detroit
mayor, who conspicuously talked about paranoia...

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:01:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

The hidden irony of that phrase "Paranoid Personality Disorder" is that
one
strong symptom of PPD is talking about it all the time, and accusing
others
of having it.

No it isn't Arny. You just love to project your faults on to other people.
There are a number of symptoms though, most of which you fit perfectly:

"The person with a Paranoid Personality Disorder essentially has an ongoing,
unbased suspiciousness and distrust of people. Along with this, they are
emotionally detached. In order to have this diagnosis, the person would have
to have seen others as having malevolent intentions, by early adulthood in
different situations, as indicated by a number of different factors. These
factors include: suspicion that others are exploiting, or deceiving them,
that others may not be loyal or trustworthy, believes there are threats or
attacks on their character in innocent statements that others do not see,
and bears persistent grudges. Additionally, this is not a diagnosis which
would be used if the person also has Paranoid Schizophrenia, a separate
diagnosis, for example, among other diagnosis which would exclude it.

As a rule, those with paranoid personality disorders can be very draining to
be around, as their constant habit of blame and suspicion makes one feel the
need to reassure them on an ongoing basis. Unfortunately, when reassurances
are made, those with this disorder hear contradictory evidence. They view it
as more evidence that harm will be done to them.

They tend to think in hierarchy: who controls the power. They want to know
who has the power in any given situation. They tend to drive people away
from them, and thus have few friends, proving to themselves even more that
there is a conspiracy afoot against them. This leads them to have a very
lonely life.

Treatment of Paranoid Personality Disorder is difficult because they
automatically distrust the therapist. A business-like approach, without
"insight oriented therapy" is best indicated."



The sooner you admit you have a problem and get help Arny, the sooner you
can get well.



Phildo

Peter Larsen said:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept [aBxism], but you
certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer based.

..... if all you want to test is computer-based snippets of sounds
without an actual audio system.

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Arny Krueger wrote:

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept, but you
certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer based.


Well, at least he stole it globally.


Cheers,

Margaret

In article , says...




Arny K. said:


If the shoe fits, wear it!


But even when the shoe does fit..
There are some who refuse to admit
And when caught flat-out
They yell and shout,
And claim their s--t is legit.

Of course no one here is guilty of this. Agreed?

Hammingaway

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People who make a bit point of going around calling other people mentally
ill often are a bit unnh overstressed themselves.

People who make a habit of regularly bragging about how they have
humiliated other people obviously have some pretty severe personality
issues of their own.


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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Phildo" wrote in message


Sadly he is more well known today for the spectacular
results of his mental illness and his constant
humiliation.

I'll only tell this to you once, for pretty obvious reasons. So Phildo
listen up!

People who make a bit point of going around calling other people mentally
ill often are a bit unnh overstressed themselves.

People who make a habit of regularly bragging about how they have humiliated
other people obviously have some pretty severe personality issues of their
own.

The hidden irony of that phrase "Paranoid Personality Disorder" is that one
strong symptom of PPD is talking about it all the time, and accusing others
of having it.


If the shoe fits, wear it!

Phildo scores!

Boon

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Peter Larsen said:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept [aBxism],
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer
based.

.... if all you want to test is computer-based snippets of sounds
without an actual audio system.

Quality audio today is computer based and an actual audio system
consisting of a computer, a power amp and a pair of loudspeakers is very
cost efficient. You are however quite right that it is for comparing
digitized audio. Some months ago I was on a listening panel listening to
alternative versions of the new Elberg MD12 MK2, see:

http://vadlyd.dk/English/RIAA_and_78_RPM_preamp.html

tests were blind and remote, ie. all participants listened to a couple
of CD's with audio from the different versions that were betatested and
rated them. A very procedure because the entire panel could listen on
each their preferred playback systems.


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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator and did the
first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.


ABX is a nonsolution to a nonproblem of noninterest to
anyone.

Yeah sure. That's why all those 1,000's of people have downloaded software
and test files from www.pcabx.com. That's why the origional ABX Compartor
article was referred and published in the JAES.

Why don't you build a tube amp and have some fun?

By the time we built the 60 or so comparators that we sold in the 80s, we
already had good SS amps.

BTW some of our earliest tests compared good tubed amps (not SETs) to good
SS amps.

You will never convince anyone they don't sound better,
any more than you will convince the Pope the Immaculate
Conception is not in the Bible and that Mary was not
beamed up to the celestial starship. Or Margaret that she
has a fishy issue to deal with.

We've already convinced 1,000's of people. If you are not convinced, well
good for you!

Why don't you build something useful like a car that
doesn't rust or a homebuilt airplane that doesn't take a
piece of **** Lycoming engine? If audio is a solved
problem, listen to your QSC amps and do something
different.

After we did the original ABX work we got really interested in loudspeakers
and rooms.

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Arny Krueger wrote:

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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator and did
the first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/


This Clark seems to employ your master and guardian Nousaine. Therefore,
he's not qualified to discuss you or your alleged accomplishments. Sorry to
bust you, Arnii.

Cheers,

Margaret

Arny Krueger wrote:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with more care.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator
and did the first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC
Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/

A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part in this, thank
you for clearing it up.


Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

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Arny Krueger wrote:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with more care.


Don't overlook the two second castanet snippets!



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On 28 Dec 2005 14:01:09 -0800, "Bret Ludwig"
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.


ABX is a nonsolution to a nonproblem of noninterest to anyone. Why
don't you build a tube amp and have some fun? You will never convince
anyone they don't sound better,

Some of us already know that they don't sound better, so we don't need
to be convinced.......

any more than you will convince the
Pope the Immaculate Conception is not in the Bible and that Mary was
not beamed up to the celestial starship. Or Margaret that she has a
fishy issue to deal with.

Why don't you build something useful like a car that doesn't rust

You built a tube amp from a de Lorean? :-)

or a
homebuilt airplane that doesn't take a piece of **** Lycoming engine?

Bede BD-5

If audio is a solved problem, listen to your QSC amps and do something
different.

Speakers are in no way a solved problem - although they're a heck of a
lot better than they used to be.

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:39:24 +0000 (UTC)

Bede BD-5

Jet or prop? Those little jets were pretty cool, IMO.

wrote in message
oups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Phildo" wrote in message


Sadly he is more well known today for the spectacular
results of his mental illness and his constant
humiliation.

I'll only tell this to you once, for pretty obvious reasons. So Phildo
listen up!

I only saw this because someone else quoted it. No point in replying to me
Arny as you are killfiled on both my machines now. Nobody will ever take you
seriously again so my work is done.

People who make a bit point of going around calling other people mentally
ill often are a bit unnh overstressed themselves.

We are discussing YOU and YOUR mental illness here. Stop trying to project
your faults on to other people. This so-called "fact" you have just made up
out of thin air to try to deflect people's attention away from the fact you
are very mentally ill.

People who make a habit of regularly bragging about how they have
humiliated
other people obviously have some pretty severe personality issues of
their
own.

We are discussing YOU and YOUR mental illness here. Stop trying to project
your faults on to other people.

The hidden irony of that phrase "Paranoid Personality Disorder" is that
one
strong symptom of PPD is talking about it all the time, and accusing
others
of having it.


Er, no it isn't Arny. You made that up in the same way you make up most of
the crap you post on here.

If the shoe fits, wear it!

I tell you what Arny, you go cause trouble over on PSW. Oh, sorry, I forgot,
it took you all of one day to get yourself BANNED and not from the LAB but
from the CHURCH forum !!! I bet your pastor is going to love to hear about
that.

Phildo

"Phildo" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Phildo" wrote in message


Sadly he is more well known today for the spectacular
results of his mental illness and his constant
humiliation.

I'll only tell this to you once, for pretty obvious reasons. So Phildo
listen up!

I only saw this because someone else quoted it. No point in replying to me
Arny as you are killfiled on both my machines now. Nobody will ever take
you seriously again so my work is done.

People who make a bit point of going around calling other people
mentally
ill often are a bit unnh overstressed themselves.

We are discussing YOU and YOUR mental illness here. Stop trying to project
your faults on to other people. This so-called "fact" you have just made
up out of thin air to try to deflect people's attention away from the fact
you are very mentally ill.

People who make a habit of regularly bragging about how they have
humiliated
other people obviously have some pretty severe personality issues of
their
own.

We are discussing YOU and YOUR mental illness here. Stop trying to project
your faults on to other people.

The hidden irony of that phrase "Paranoid Personality Disorder" is that
one
strong symptom of PPD is talking about it all the time, and accusing
others
of having it.


Er, no it isn't Arny. You made that up in the same way you make up most of
the crap you post on here.

If the shoe fits, wear it!

I tell you what Arny, you go cause trouble over on PSW. Oh, sorry, I
forgot, it took you all of one day to get yourself BANNED and not from the
LAB but from the CHURCH forum !!! I bet your pastor is going to love to
hear about that.

Phildo
Sorry, forgot the sigfile:

Phildo

--
The FULL definition of "pulling an Arny" is "doing something incredibly
stupid and making a complete tit of yourself THEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT AND
DEFENDING YOUR METHODS ON THE INTERNET SO THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS."

You could give Arny $1 and send him into a dime store for a 10 cent clue and
that fool would come out with an empty PEZ dispenser.

Peter Larsen wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:


Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.



Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.


Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with more care.


Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator
and did the first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC
Design web site:



http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/


A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part in this, thank
you for clearing it up.

Thanks you for the post Peter as it is informative as to who "invented"
this ABX.




Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

Peter Larsen

"Peter Larsen" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with
more care.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX
Comparator and did the first ABX test. You can find
Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/

A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part
in this, thank you for clearing it up.

It seems to be a common misapprehension.

You're almost always very fair, Peter.

"Robert McTigue" wrote in
message
Peter Larsen wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:


Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.



Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.


Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with
more care.
Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX
Comparator and did the first ABX test. You can find
Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:



http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/


A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part
in this, thank you for clearing it up.

Thanks you for the post Peter as it is informative as to
who "invented" this ABX.

My choice of wording w/r/t is very careful because the development of ABX
was done by a committee. The committee specs were that the test was going to
be Double Blind, able to be self-administered, and easy to use. I did all
the hands-on development, added a lot of innovations of my own, and I did
the alpha testing.

We had several amp switching boxes on hand to start with that missed spec by
miles and miles. There were three distinct generations of the box, the last
of which was a mixture of CMOS and TTL.

It took several years of additional work which I did solo, to develop a
suitable relay box for actually routing the signals. The final product was
capable of switching anything from phono inputs to mic inputs to line-level
signals to speaker-level signals without any audible transients of any kind.
All in one box, that we sold for $400.

Phildo wrote:

I only saw this because someone else quoted it. No point in replying to me
Arny as you are killfiled on both my machines now.

If only he could muster the honesty and integrity to live up to the intent
of his killfiles. Instead, he cheats on himself.

snip


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