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"Mikey" wrote in message Scam or real? What think you? Has anyone ever gotten one of these? Did you follow up? Did it work out? Please post to group and not privately. This can happen often.... usually if the high bidder flakes out and your bid is close enough to satisfy the seller. The other common occasion is if the seller has multiple items and your bid again satisfies his desired income. I wouldn't handle it any way other than totally through e-Bay communication channels. The second chance offer should take you back to the original listing. Read up on e-Bay about the second chance offer, but I'm guessing this would be legitimate... I wouldn't complete a transaction unless it was done totally within the boundaries of e-Bay... not directly to an e-mail addy. -- David Morgan (MAMS) http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com Morgan Audio Media Service Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901 _______________________________________ http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com |
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"Mikey" wrote in message Scam or real? What think you? Has anyone ever gotten one of these? Did you follow up? Did it work out? Please post to group and not privately. This can happen often.... usually if the high bidder flakes out and your bid is close enough to satisfy the seller. The other common occasion is if the seller has multiple items and your bid again satisfies his desired income. I wouldn't handle it any way other than totally through e-Bay communication channels. The second chance offer should take you back to the original listing. Read up on e-Bay about the second chance offer, but I'm guessing this would be legitimate... I wouldn't complete a transaction unless it was done totally within the boundaries of e-Bay... not directly to an e-mail addy. -- David Morgan (MAMS) http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com Morgan Audio Media Service Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901 _______________________________________ http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com |
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Mikey wrote:
The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. Ebay doesn't make grammatical mistakes like this sentence has when sending out official business email. Big red flag to me. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . -- I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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Mikey wrote:
The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. Ebay doesn't make grammatical mistakes like this sentence has when sending out official business email. Big red flag to me. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . -- I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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"Nathan West" wrote in message
Mikey wrote: The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. Ebay doesn't make grammatical mistakes like this sentence has when sending out official business email. Big red flag to me. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . -- I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. Or just ask google... http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/personal_offer.html counterpoint: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/20...g_on_ebay.html |
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"Nathan West" wrote in message
Mikey wrote: The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. Ebay doesn't make grammatical mistakes like this sentence has when sending out official business email. Big red flag to me. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . -- I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. Or just ask google... http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/personal_offer.html counterpoint: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/20...g_on_ebay.html |
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Second Chance offers are when the highest bidder does not want the item and
decides not to pay.The seller then offers it to the next highest bidder through ebay second chance instead of relisting and starting the auction over. This is legit. Nathan West wrote in message ... Mikey wrote: The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. Ebay doesn't make grammatical mistakes like this sentence has when sending out official business email. Big red flag to me. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . -- I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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Second Chance offers are when the highest bidder does not want the item and
decides not to pay.The seller then offers it to the next highest bidder through ebay second chance instead of relisting and starting the auction over. This is legit. Nathan West wrote in message ... Mikey wrote: The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. Ebay doesn't make grammatical mistakes like this sentence has when sending out official business email. Big red flag to me. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . -- I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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On 2004-12-03, David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
This can happen often.... usually if the high bidder flakes out and your bid is close enough to satisfy the seller. The other common occasion is if the seller has multiple items and your bid again satisfies his desired income. Also, sometimes reserve auctions will end without a winning bid, and the seller might have second thoughts about his reserve. |
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On 2004-12-03, David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
This can happen often.... usually if the high bidder flakes out and your bid is close enough to satisfy the seller. The other common occasion is if the seller has multiple items and your bid again satisfies his desired income. Also, sometimes reserve auctions will end without a winning bid, and the seller might have second thoughts about his reserve. |
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Second Chance offers are when the highest bidder does not want the item
and decides not to pay.The seller then offers it to the next highest bidder through ebay second chance instead of relisting and starting the auction over. I'm pretty sure I read on ebay that you could make a second chance offer if you had more than one of the item to sell, also. -John O |
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Second Chance offers are when the highest bidder does not want the item
and decides not to pay.The seller then offers it to the next highest bidder through ebay second chance instead of relisting and starting the auction over. I'm pretty sure I read on ebay that you could make a second chance offer if you had more than one of the item to sell, also. -John O |
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If you are concerned that the offer is a scam, forward the email to
and they will confirm whether or not the message actually came from ebay. The second chance offer has been used as a scam many times. Al On 3 Dec 2004 09:08:49 -0800, (Mikey) wrote: Hi folks, I recently made my first ever bid on Flea-bay and came in 2nd. After the auction ended, I got this email from " (I've edited names & #s only): ============ Please do not reply to this email as you will not receive a response. This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. Message From eBay Member If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately and do not respond. An offer to sell an item directly to another eBay member through email violates eBay rules. It is also extremely unsafe to purchase an item through this email system regardless of the seller's claims or feedback, as you lose the benefit of eBay's purchase protection programs and risk losing your money. Never pay for your eBay item through instant cash transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. Such services offer Internet shoppers no protection against fraud. Dear z, ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** You expressed interest in an item titled "xxx" (Item xxx) by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller of that item is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of US $x.00 . The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . Thank you, eBay, Inc ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** Please respond to the question on eBay by clicking the button below. Thank you, y -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information. eBay will never ask their users for personal information, such as bank account numbers, credit card numbers, pin numbers, passwords, or Social Security numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay password and your account, please visit User Account Protection. This eBay notice was sent to based on your eBay account preferences and in accordance with our Privacy Policy. To change your notification preferences, click here. If you would like to receive this email in text format, click here. Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. ======= Scam or real? What think you? Has anyone ever gotten one of these? Did you follow up? Did it work out? Please post to group and not privately. Thanks a heap, Mikey Nova Music Productions |
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If you are concerned that the offer is a scam, forward the email to
and they will confirm whether or not the message actually came from ebay. The second chance offer has been used as a scam many times. Al On 3 Dec 2004 09:08:49 -0800, (Mikey) wrote: Hi folks, I recently made my first ever bid on Flea-bay and came in 2nd. After the auction ended, I got this email from " (I've edited names & #s only): ============ Please do not reply to this email as you will not receive a response. This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. Message From eBay Member If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately and do not respond. An offer to sell an item directly to another eBay member through email violates eBay rules. It is also extremely unsafe to purchase an item through this email system regardless of the seller's claims or feedback, as you lose the benefit of eBay's purchase protection programs and risk losing your money. Never pay for your eBay item through instant cash transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. Such services offer Internet shoppers no protection against fraud. Dear z, ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** You expressed interest in an item titled "xxx" (Item xxx) by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller of that item is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of US $x.00 . The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . Thank you, eBay, Inc ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** Please respond to the question on eBay by clicking the button below. Thank you, y -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information. eBay will never ask their users for personal information, such as bank account numbers, credit card numbers, pin numbers, passwords, or Social Security numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay password and your account, please visit User Account Protection. This eBay notice was sent to based on your eBay account preferences and in accordance with our Privacy Policy. To change your notification preferences, click here. If you would like to receive this email in text format, click here. Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. ======= Scam or real? What think you? Has anyone ever gotten one of these? Did you follow up? Did it work out? Please post to group and not privately. Thanks a heap, Mikey Nova Music Productions |
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Second chance offers are legit and are a part of ebay, IF the item =
sells. ( NOT if it does not meet its reserve!) If the high bidder backs out or if the seller has more than one of the = item the seller can go to the bidders list and click on the second = highest bidder and ebay sends them an offer to bid. You should also receive a ebay URL where it can be purchased . It will look just like a regular auction but you , the second highest = bidder ( or 3rd or 4th) will be the only one that can bid. Also it will = be for the amount you bid not more and not the high bidder selling = price. Second chance offers are for a specific time period 1 day 3 day and 5 = day. I use them all the time for multiple item sales. ( provided the second = highest bidder is within pennies of the high bidder)=20 The seller does not have to pay a listing fee if you use ebay's second = highest bidder program. Port --=20 |
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Second chance offers are legit and are a part of ebay, IF the item =
sells. ( NOT if it does not meet its reserve!) If the high bidder backs out or if the seller has more than one of the = item the seller can go to the bidders list and click on the second = highest bidder and ebay sends them an offer to bid. You should also receive a ebay URL where it can be purchased . It will look just like a regular auction but you , the second highest = bidder ( or 3rd or 4th) will be the only one that can bid. Also it will = be for the amount you bid not more and not the high bidder selling = price. Second chance offers are for a specific time period 1 day 3 day and 5 = day. I use them all the time for multiple item sales. ( provided the second = highest bidder is within pennies of the high bidder)=20 The seller does not have to pay a listing fee if you use ebay's second = highest bidder program. Port --=20 |
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On 3 Dec 2004 09:08:49 -0800, (Mikey) wrote:
If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately and do not respond.snipDear z, ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** You expressed interest in an item titled "xxx" (Item xxx) by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller of that item is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of US $x.00 . The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . Thank you, eBay, Inc ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** snip This is a scam. SleazeBay does offer sellers a chance to go to the second high bidder if the top bidder flakes for any reason, and they call it "Second Chance." Frauders are mimmicking the sleazeBay HTML mailing, adding language to have the runner up email them directly, not through sleazeBay's own message server. This is an attempt to evade sleazeBay's seller's fees. Report them, since they're obviously running a scam. dB |
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On 3 Dec 2004 09:08:49 -0800, (Mikey) wrote:
If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately and do not respond.snipDear z, ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** You expressed interest in an item titled "xxx" (Item xxx) by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller of that item is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of US $x.00 . The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at . Thank you, eBay, Inc ***Do not reply to this email . Contact the seller at this e-mail address : *** snip This is a scam. SleazeBay does offer sellers a chance to go to the second high bidder if the top bidder flakes for any reason, and they call it "Second Chance." Frauders are mimmicking the sleazeBay HTML mailing, adding language to have the runner up email them directly, not through sleazeBay's own message server. This is an attempt to evade sleazeBay's seller's fees. Report them, since they're obviously running a scam. dB |
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Mikey wrote:
Hi folks, I recently made my first ever bid on Flea-bay and came in 2nd. After the auction ended, I got this email from " (I've edited names & #s only): ============ The email should originate from . It should also link to ebay's site directly to process the transaction. This looks like a scam to me. Here is a *genuine* example of a 2nd chance offer. Note the different text. Dear xxxxxx, You expressed interest in an item titled MP3/CD/MD CAR CASSETTE ADAPTER! FREE P+P! by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller, theledhead is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of £5.19. The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction or the seller has duplicate items for sale. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. This offer expires Friday, 23 Jan, 2004 22:54:44 GMT. To purchase this item, click the "Buy It Now" button located at the bottom of the following page: http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayIS...tem=3073173824. If you want to ask the seller a question before making the purchase, follow the link above and click the "Ask Seller A Question" link on the item page. To learn more about Second Chance Offer go to: http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/personal_offer.html Thank you, eBay, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You selected to receive this email notification when you registered. If you do not want to receive these offers in the future, click here http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?OptinLoginShow&filter=0. You will be asked to log in. Then, click on the check box next to Second Chance Offer Notice. Remember: eBay will not ask you for sensitive personal information (such as your password, credit card and bank account numbers, etc.) in an email. Copyright 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. |
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Mikey wrote:
Hi folks, I recently made my first ever bid on Flea-bay and came in 2nd. After the auction ended, I got this email from " (I've edited names & #s only): ============ The email should originate from . It should also link to ebay's site directly to process the transaction. This looks like a scam to me. Here is a *genuine* example of a 2nd chance offer. Note the different text. Dear xxxxxx, You expressed interest in an item titled MP3/CD/MD CAR CASSETTE ADAPTER! FREE P+P! by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller, theledhead is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of £5.19. The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction or the seller has duplicate items for sale. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. This offer expires Friday, 23 Jan, 2004 22:54:44 GMT. To purchase this item, click the "Buy It Now" button located at the bottom of the following page: http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayIS...tem=3073173824. If you want to ask the seller a question before making the purchase, follow the link above and click the "Ask Seller A Question" link on the item page. To learn more about Second Chance Offer go to: http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/personal_offer.html Thank you, eBay, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You selected to receive this email notification when you registered. If you do not want to receive these offers in the future, click here http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?OptinLoginShow&filter=0. You will be asked to log in. Then, click on the check box next to Second Chance Offer Notice. Remember: eBay will not ask you for sensitive personal information (such as your password, credit card and bank account numbers, etc.) in an email. Copyright 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. |
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"Nathan West" wrote in message... I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. I have both bought and sold using "second chance offer". It's easily viewable (if you are selling an item) as the very first option in the seller's "Action" menu on your "My e-Bay page", along with "sell similar", "send invoice", "relist", etc.. http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/seco...nce_offer.html DM |
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"Nathan West" wrote in message... I've never heard of a *Second Chance Offer*. My experience has been that if a winning bidder drops out, Ebay will let you repost the auction for free. I would write Ebay and ask if this is legit. I have both bought and sold using "second chance offer". It's easily viewable (if you are selling an item) as the very first option in the seller's "Action" menu on your "My e-Bay page", along with "sell similar", "send invoice", "relist", etc.. http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/seco...nce_offer.html DM |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:23:38 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: I have both bought and sold using "second chance offer". It's easily viewable (if you are selling an item) as the very first option in the seller's "Action" menu on your "My e-Bay page", along with "sell similar", "send invoice", "relist", etc.. snip No one's questioning the legitimacy of sleazeBay's "Second Chance" feature. What's at issue here is that one he received from a seller is a fraud. Read the email carefully. dB |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:23:38 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: I have both bought and sold using "second chance offer". It's easily viewable (if you are selling an item) as the very first option in the seller's "Action" menu on your "My e-Bay page", along with "sell similar", "send invoice", "relist", etc.. snip No one's questioning the legitimacy of sleazeBay's "Second Chance" feature. What's at issue here is that one he received from a seller is a fraud. Read the email carefully. dB |
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Pooh Bear wrote in message ...
Mikey wrote: Hi folks, I recently made my first ever bid on Flea-bay and came in 2nd. After the auction ended, I got this email from " (I've edited names & #s only): ============ The email should originate from . It should also link to ebay's site directly to process the transaction. This looks like a scam to me. Here is a *genuine* example of a 2nd chance offer. Note the different text. Dear xxxxxx, You expressed interest in an item titled MP3/CD/MD CAR CASSETTE ADAPTER! FREE P+P! by bidding, however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder. In compliance with eBay policy, the seller, theledhead is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of £5.19. The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction or the seller has duplicate items for sale. If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection. This offer expires Friday, 23 Jan, 2004 22:54:44 GMT. To purchase this item, click the "Buy It Now" button located at the bottom of the following page: http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayIS...tem=3073173824. If you want to ask the seller a question before making the purchase, follow the link above and click the "Ask Seller A Question" link on the item page. To learn more about Second Chance Offer go to: http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/personal_offer.html Thank you, eBay, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You selected to receive this email notification when you registered. If you do not want to receive these offers in the future, click here http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?OptinLoginShow&filter=0. You will be asked to log in. Then, click on the check box next to Second Chance Offer Notice. Remember: eBay will not ask you for sensitive personal information (such as your password, credit card and bank account numbers, etc.) in an email. Copyright 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. Thanks guys, and here's an update. What 'red-flagged' it to me is the fact that the 1st "2nd chance offer" came in almost immediately after the auction closed. It seemed too fast to be legit. Also, I got a second "offer" just yesterday - looks identical - from a different email address in the UK. So based on your posts, I'm thinking that: a) there IS such a thing as a real 2nd chance offer thru EBay (reserve was met) b) this one & it's brother ain't legit I'll file a fraud report. Thanks again to all for saving my christmas dough. I was tempted for about 1/2 second. Mikey Wozniak Nova Music Productions this sig is haiku |
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This is legit. Second Chance through Ebay is legit, but I had a seller use a shill to bid up the price on me. When the Shill (who had great feedback) won the bid, he of course didn't pay and I got the "Second Chance" notification from Ebay. This shill had posted +feedback to the seller many times and the seller had posted +feedback on the shill. Damned if I even know how to report this. I did not respond to the Second Chance offering. Richard H. Kuschel "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty |
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