got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as
the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody
hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

I can hear your British accent as I read your post, cool.....

Anyway, we will need some more info like what kind of amp are you using,
what kind of car, are the Infinity's sperates or coaxial; if separates where
did you mount the tweeter?

Do both sets of Infinity's sound like crap? And, perhaps most importantly,
specifically what is it that makes them sound like "rubbish"? Can you
describe what they are doing? Do they sound good at low volumes?

Provide some of this info and we will have a better chance of helping you.

MOSFET

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as
the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody
hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

I have said these speakers are not worth the money for a long time, at the
end of the day your ears don't lie irrespective of what the advertising
literaturesays....

"MOSFET" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as
the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush
with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody
hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

I can hear your British accent as I read your post, cool.....

Anyway, we will need some more info like what kind of amp are you using,
what kind of car, are the Infinity's sperates or coaxial; if separates
where
did you mount the tweeter?

Do both sets of Infinity's sound like crap? And, perhaps most
importantly,
specifically what is it that makes them sound like "rubbish"? Can you
describe what they are doing? Do they sound good at low volumes?

Provide some of this info and we will have a better chance of helping you.

MOSFET



British accent???? OHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Australian actually!!... Amp is a
Audiobahn 4601T., 4 channel, at the moment 2 channels running the infinity's
in the front, and the other 2 running a sub in the boot. I also have Kicker
6x9s in the back (pre sub days) I just use em for rear fill now, they're
connected to the headunit.. The Infinity's are separates, mounted the
tweeter on the dash, about 2cm from the vents on either side of the car.

Yep, both sound like crap, I thought at first it was down to not fitting
flush with the doors, so I made brackets outta MDF, fitted perfectly (quite
the handy man must say) but yet still no improvement on the sound. ok, at
low gains, sound like crap, no mid-range whatsoever!!!, turn up the amp,
midrange improves a bit, but the speaker cone moves in and out like crazy!!
so assume amp is turned up too high, reduce it slightly... still no midrange
really at all... If I disconnect my sub completely, there is no bass thump
or tap coming from the speakers... Dunno whats up... basically it sounds the
same as my factory fitted speakers, connected directly to the headunit...
The car is a Fiat Punto (yeah I know, but I'm a poor student) 3door....

many thanks for the replies!!

"Chris" wrote in message
...
British accent???? OHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Australian actually!!... Amp is a
Audiobahn 4601T., 4 channel, at the moment 2 channels running the
infinity's
in the front, and the other 2 running a sub in the boot. I also have
Kicker
6x9s in the back (pre sub days) I just use em for rear fill now, they're
connected to the headunit.. The Infinity's are separates, mounted the
tweeter on the dash, about 2cm from the vents on either side of the car.

Yep, both sound like crap, I thought at first it was down to not fitting
flush with the doors, so I made brackets outta MDF, fitted perfectly
(quite
the handy man must say) but yet still no improvement on the sound. ok, at
low gains, sound like crap, no mid-range whatsoever!!!, turn up the amp,
midrange improves a bit, but the speaker cone moves in and out like
crazy!!
so assume amp is turned up too high, reduce it slightly... still no
midrange
really at all... If I disconnect my sub completely, there is no bass thump
or tap coming from the speakers... Dunno whats up... basically it sounds
the
same as my factory fitted speakers, connected directly to the headunit...
The car is a Fiat Punto (yeah I know, but I'm a poor student) 3door....

many thanks for the replies!!

Well Australian is cool, too.

Another question, are you using a crossover for those front speakers? If
so, at what frequency is it set at?

You mention a couple of times that you don't seem to be getting much
midrange. It's possible that your tweeter is overpowering your midrange.
Unfortunately, I don't believe that Infinity model has any kind of tweeter
control on the x-over, so if this is, indeed, the problem, you might want to
try repostitioning the tweeter (perhaps closer to the woofer).

From what you describe about the woofer cone moving a lot, it sounds like
either you are using no x-over for your Infinity's or the high-pass x-over
is set too low.

It's possible there may be nothing physically wrong here, you just need a
lot of fine tuning. But if you suspect there is something physically wrong,
you might want to take your car into the nearst car stereo shop and just let
them listen to your car. They should be able to tell you pretty quickly if
something is actually wrong. I'm afraid it's often difficult using this
newgroup to diagnose subtle problems.

Cheers, mate!

MOSFET

Actually, I use Infinity Reference and they sound great. There is some
tweeter control. You have a -3db hookup for the tweeters. I have to
use it on mine. It took some work, had to seal up the doors and played
with positioning a lot. But once you get it, the speakers do sound
really good.

DA

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Yep, both sound like crap, I thought at first it was down to not fitting
flush with the doors, so I made brackets outta MDF, fitted perfectly
(quite
the handy man must say) but yet still no improvement on the sound. ok, at
low gains, sound like crap, no mid-range whatsoever!!!, turn up the amp,
midrange improves a bit, but the speaker cone moves in and out like
crazy!!
so assume amp is turned up too high, reduce it slightly... still no
midrange
really at all... If I disconnect my sub completely, there is no bass thump
or tap coming from the speakers...

OK, DA says there is tweeter controls on the x-over so this would be a good
place to start. Try attenuating the tweeter volume and see if this helps.
Again, the answer may also lie in how you have crossed over the Infinity's
(if you crossed them over at all!).

My guess (and it is only a guess) is that you just need some fine tuning.
You see, the thing about good component speakers (or really good anything
for that matter) is that if not properly set up and calibrated, they can
sound just as bad as they can sound good.

MOSFET

Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as
good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the
door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit
flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause
bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you mean
make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie + to + and -
to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as
good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with
the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it
fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or something???
cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

Hey!!! thanks for the reply!!!! Crossover?? tweeter adjustment??? ok,.
there's a crossover included with the set, is this what your talking
about??? I connected the tweeter and speaker to it, there is a optional
thing on the crossover to reduce the tweeter sensitivity... by -3dB... but I
don't think the tweeter is drowning out the speaker... its really hard to
explain there is sound coming outta the main speaker, but no bass really at
all... I automatically assumed it was due to the speaker not fitting flush
with the door (same grounds as a sub) but I made new brackets, it sits flush
now, but still no bass.... I dont expect thumping bass, or even a bit of
umph but I'd like to hear some kinda bass rather than a rock rattling round
in a tin can type of sound....

MANY THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY AND HELP!!!!!!

"MOSFET" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Yep, both sound like crap, I thought at first it was down to not fitting
flush with the doors, so I made brackets outta MDF, fitted perfectly
(quite
the handy man must say) but yet still no improvement on the sound. ok, at
low gains, sound like crap, no mid-range whatsoever!!!, turn up the amp,
midrange improves a bit, but the speaker cone moves in and out like
crazy!!
so assume amp is turned up too high, reduce it slightly... still no
midrange
really at all... If I disconnect my sub completely, there is no bass
thump
or tap coming from the speakers...

OK, DA says there is tweeter controls on the x-over so this would be a
good
place to start. Try attenuating the tweeter volume and see if this helps.
Again, the answer may also lie in how you have crossed over the Infinity's
(if you crossed them over at all!).

My guess (and it is only a guess) is that you just need some fine tuning.
You see, the thing about good component speakers (or really good anything
for that matter) is that if not properly set up and calibrated, they can
sound just as bad as they can sound good.

MOSFET

ok, did a bit of fiddling... I noticed, my left front speaker is distorting
alot more than the right.... I took the grills off, shifted all audio to
front right, turned it up till it distorted, backed off a bit... so the
front right is as loud as possible without distortion... I kept the volume
level the same, shifted it from right to left, the front left distorts like
mad!!! I had to turn the volume down quite a bit to stop the distortion!!.
how can that be when they're connected to the same amp?? is the front left
speaker faulty??? is that the problem?? or am I missing something so
simple?? I checked the polarity of the speaker, seems to be connected
correctly....

Am I missing anything else??

HELP!!! PLEASE


"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you
mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie + to
+ and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...

I have used the reference series and reccomended them to people as a
OEM replacement. I have never heard/had a complaint. The tweet is a tad
over powered. Maybe you got a bad set. Take them out and run them out
of the car just to test and see if they sound like garbage. They should
sound worlds apart from a stock speaker. Maybe the crossover is
defective, or the you have the woofer running off of the tweeter out
put.

Ok, there's a lot I want to tell you here.

First, ZoSo sugested that your speakers could be out of phase which isn't a
bad idea and although I'm pretty sure this isn't your primary problem, being
out of phase would definately reduce the amount of midrange and midbass you
are getting. Out of phase basically means one speaker is producing music
180 degrees out of phase with the other, thereby cancelling the sound.
Though this sounds very serious, in practice it is sometimes difficult to
determine if your speakers are out of phase. Simply switch the connections
of ONE of the speakers at the amp (positive to negative and the negative to
positive) and see if the bass improves. If the bass actually goes down,
then switch it back.

Yes, your speakers came with x-overs, but that wasn't what I was talking
about. You will need an x-over (high-pass) going to your infinitys. It
sounds to me that you do not have this and this MAY be the source of most of
your problems. You will need to have a crossover so that frequencies of
about 80 Hz and up go to the Infinitys. You see, your Infinitys (despite
what the box may say), just can't handle anything below 80-90 Hz in any
great quanitity. And no, your Infinitys did NOT come with the type of
crossover I am describing. This will make an INCREDIBLE difference in your
sound, trust me (this may be your whole problem)!

If you hear a lot more distortion out of one of your speakers make sure that
there is nothing behind the speaker (wires, etc.) that might be touching the
cone when the speaker is installed in the door. Also, sometimes the wire
leads that are part of the speaker (they run into the cone) slap against the
side of the cones when you are playing your music loud. If you suspect this
might be happening, a little rubber cement can usually cure this.

Experiment with phasing and look into a high-pass (this means only high
frequency signals can "pass") crossover for your Infinitys and your system
should sound much better.

MOSFET

"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok, did a bit of fiddling... I noticed, my left front speaker is
distorting
alot more than the right.... I took the grills off, shifted all audio to
front right, turned it up till it distorted, backed off a bit... so the
front right is as loud as possible without distortion... I kept the volume
level the same, shifted it from right to left, the front left distorts
like
mad!!! I had to turn the volume down quite a bit to stop the distortion!!.
how can that be when they're connected to the same amp?? is the front left
speaker faulty??? is that the problem?? or am I missing something so
simple?? I checked the polarity of the speaker, seems to be connected
correctly....

Am I missing anything else??

HELP!!! PLEASE


"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead
question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you
mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie +
to
+ and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto
my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...

Hi, thanks for the reply!! I'm lost for ideas now, it seems its only my left
front speaker thats the problem, its over-powered or something.. So what I
did was I thought it maybe faulty wiring,,, So I switched the left (channel
1) and right (channel 2) around, so the left was running off channel 2 and
the right off channel one.... Tested again, suddenly the left speaker was
perfect but the right was over-powering and giving out too much
distortion!!! So I went ok, must be down to the amp, so I looked at the amp
and noticed that (dunno if you's are familiar with Audiobahn 4601T) but the
clipping lights were lighting up on channel 1; Channel 2, 3, 4 seemed to be
fine!!!,... So... thought it might be a fault with the channel 1 of the amp,
so decided what the hey move channel 1 (front left) to channel 3 and channel
2 (front right) to channel 4... Turned it on, and now according to the
lovely STYLISH flasing blue lights on the amp, channel 3 is clipping!!!!..
but channel 4 was fine!!! Channel 3 and 4 are controlled off the same knobs,
so how can one be clipping and the other isn't?? I don't think there's a
prob with the amp as it seems to follow around the set of front speakers
(where I attach em).. So then thought it could be a wiring problem upto the
speaker or infact a speaker problem itself... so switched speakers around at
the output of the amp, assuming the problem would stick to the speaker with
the original problem ,but it didnt?!?!!? the problem stuck on channel 1 and
then on channel 3 once switched... I'm totally lost, can't be the wiring or
the speaker, as when I hooked the speakers upto channel 2 it worked fine....
when i use the set on channel 1,2 1 seems to be the problem... when I use it
on 3,4 3 seems to be the problem?"?" When I switch 1 and 2 around 1 is still
the problem and same with channel 3 and 4.... Dunno how amps work but I
assume 1,2 are taken as one unit and 3,4 are taken as another..

Thanks for all the help!!! hopefully some of the things I rambled on about
makes a bit of sense!!!!


" MOSFET" wrote in message
...
Ok, there's a lot I want to tell you here.

First, ZoSo sugested that your speakers could be out of phase which isn't
a
bad idea and although I'm pretty sure this isn't your primary problem,
being
out of phase would definately reduce the amount of midrange and midbass
you
are getting. Out of phase basically means one speaker is producing music
180 degrees out of phase with the other, thereby cancelling the sound.
Though this sounds very serious, in practice it is sometimes difficult to
determine if your speakers are out of phase. Simply switch the
connections
of ONE of the speakers at the amp (positive to negative and the negative
to
positive) and see if the bass improves. If the bass actually goes down,
then switch it back.

Yes, your speakers came with x-overs, but that wasn't what I was talking
about. You will need an x-over (high-pass) going to your infinitys. It
sounds to me that you do not have this and this MAY be the source of most
of
your problems. You will need to have a crossover so that frequencies of
about 80 Hz and up go to the Infinitys. You see, your Infinitys (despite
what the box may say), just can't handle anything below 80-90 Hz in any
great quanitity. And no, your Infinitys did NOT come with the type of
crossover I am describing. This will make an INCREDIBLE difference in
your
sound, trust me (this may be your whole problem)!

If you hear a lot more distortion out of one of your speakers make sure
that
there is nothing behind the speaker (wires, etc.) that might be touching
the
cone when the speaker is installed in the door. Also, sometimes the wire
leads that are part of the speaker (they run into the cone) slap against
the
side of the cones when you are playing your music loud. If you suspect
this
might be happening, a little rubber cement can usually cure this.

Experiment with phasing and look into a high-pass (this means only high
frequency signals can "pass") crossover for your Infinitys and your system
should sound much better.

MOSFET

"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok, did a bit of fiddling... I noticed, my left front speaker is
distorting
alot more than the right.... I took the grills off, shifted all audio to
front right, turned it up till it distorted, backed off a bit... so the
front right is as loud as possible without distortion... I kept the
volume
level the same, shifted it from right to left, the front left distorts
like
mad!!! I had to turn the volume down quite a bit to stop the
distortion!!.
how can that be when they're connected to the same amp?? is the front
left
speaker faulty??? is that the problem?? or am I missing something so
simple?? I checked the polarity of the speaker, seems to be connected
correctly....

Am I missing anything else??

HELP!!! PLEASE


"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead
question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you
mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie +
to
+ and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto
my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded
just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...

Could it be your rca's are grounding/shorting out? Try swaping the
rca's that gointo the amp.

HMmmmmmmmm could be the problem, my last amp fried due to a problem with the
radio, I think it may of damaged the rca cable... never thought of that!!!
its dark now (scared of the dark) I'll check it out tomorrow, so you suggest
switching the rca cable around?? and what am I looking out for? to see if
the problem switches from the left hand side of my car to the right?? if it
does its down to the cable so??

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HELP!!! other wise I woulda just drove around with
the left speaker WRECKING my head!!!. REally grateful for the help!!! and
thanks to all for being patient!!!
wrote in message
oups.com...
Could it be your rca's are grounding/shorting out? Try swaping the
rca's that gointo the amp.

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:26:59 -0000, "Chris" wrote:

HMmmmmmmmm could be the problem, my last amp fried due to a problem with the
radio, I think it may of damaged the rca cable... never thought of that!!!
its dark now (scared of the dark) I'll check it out tomorrow, so you suggest
switching the rca cable around?? and what am I looking out for? to see if
the problem switches from the left hand side of my car to the right?? if it
does its down to the cable so??

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HELP!!! other wise I woulda just drove around with
the left speaker WRECKING my head!!!. REally grateful for the help!!! and
thanks to all for being patient!!!
wrote in message
roups.com...
Could it be your rca's are grounding/shorting out? Try swaping the
rca's that gointo the amp.



You can follow the signal upstream to try to narrow the problem down.
Try this:

Step 1) Switch the speaker wires coming out of the amplifier.
If the problem switches sides, go to Step 2.
If the problem doesn't switch sides, the problem is with the speaker

Step 2) Switch the RCA cables going into the amplifier.
If the problem switches sides, go to step three.
If the problem doesn't switch sides, the amplifier is bad.

Step 3) Temporarily put new RCA cables between head unit and amplifer.
If the problem goes away, the RCA cables are bad.
If the problem doesn't go away, the output from the head unit is bad.


Hope this helps,


--
Scott Gardner

"Oh look, things are going from bad to worse!"

ok!!! thanks for the help!!!! I'll try it out in da morn!!! let ya's know
how I get on!!!


"Scott Gardner" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:26:59 -0000, "Chris" wrote:

HMmmmmmmmm could be the problem, my last amp fried due to a problem with
the
radio, I think it may of damaged the rca cable... never thought of that!!!
its dark now (scared of the dark) I'll check it out tomorrow, so you
suggest
switching the rca cable around?? and what am I looking out for? to see if
the problem switches from the left hand side of my car to the right?? if
it
does its down to the cable so??

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HELP!!! other wise I woulda just drove around with
the left speaker WRECKING my head!!!. REally grateful for the help!!! and
thanks to all for being patient!!!
wrote in message
groups.com...
Could it be your rca's are grounding/shorting out? Try swaping the
rca's that gointo the amp.



You can follow the signal upstream to try to narrow the problem down.
Try this:

Step 1) Switch the speaker wires coming out of the amplifier.
If the problem switches sides, go to Step 2.
If the problem doesn't switch sides, the problem is with the speaker

Step 2) Switch the RCA cables going into the amplifier.
If the problem switches sides, go to step three.
If the problem doesn't switch sides, the amplifier is bad.

Step 3) Temporarily put new RCA cables between head unit and amplifer.
If the problem goes away, the RCA cables are bad.
If the problem doesn't go away, the output from the head unit is bad.


Hope this helps,


--
Scott Gardner

"Oh look, things are going from bad to worse!"

Sorry about being so vauge with "out of phase". It sounds like your on the
right track with an amp or RCA cable problem. Good luck.

ZoSo

"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you
mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie + to
+ and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...

Ya, I know I spelled vague wrong. That's how it's spelled after 3 beers.


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Sorry about being so vauge with "out of phase". It sounds like your on the
right track with an amp or RCA cable problem. Good luck.

ZoSo

"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead
question, but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta
phase, do you mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected
right?? Ie + to + and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto
my amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...

"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Ya, I know I spelled vague wrong. That's how it's spelled after 3 beers.


I didn't even notice it was spelled wrong. I must be on your wavelength,
dude.

"Please don't call me dude. I'm no longer a stoner."
-Charlie Sheen - Scary Movie III

MOSFET

Hi, I switched to RCA leads around today, and yep the bad speaker shifted
from left to right, so I'm assuming its down to the RCA cable being faulty.
Can't get my hands on a lead at the mo but pretty sure thats the problem
identified...

Thanks to all that posted, and took time out to help me resolve this
problem!!!.

J.

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as
good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the
door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit
flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause
bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:16:14 -0000, "Chris" wrote:

Hi, I switched to RCA leads around today, and yep the bad speaker shifted
from left to right, so I'm assuming its down to the RCA cable being faulty.
Can't get my hands on a lead at the mo but pretty sure thats the problem
identified...

Thanks to all that posted, and took time out to help me resolve this
problem!!!.

J.


Well, even without a spare set of RCA cables, you can narrow it down
some more to see if it's the cable or your head unit.

If the bad-sounding speaker is now the right speaker, take the RCA
cable that feeds the right input of the amp, and set it aside
somewhere.

Now, take the other RCA cable and run it from the left output of the
head unit to the left input of the amp. Does the left speaker sound
okay? If it does, the left head unit output and this RCA cable are
both good.

Now, connect the RCA cable to the right output of the head unit and
the right input of the amp. Does the right speaker sound okay? If it
does, the right output of the head unit is good and you've narrowed
your problem down to the other RCA cable (the one you set aside).




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Scott Gardner

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