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6 channel mixer with inserts?
I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono
acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. Thanks for the wisdom |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
On 11/5/2010 6:30 PM, Danny T wrote:
I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, sometime, you \know, you'll get what you need." You won't find a 6 channel mixer that meets all of those requirements, but you can do that with a Mackie Onyx 1220 (old model) or 1220i (current model), maybe. You didn't specify how many vocal channels you need. The 1220 has four inputs that will accommodate microphones (XLR, phantom power, about 60 dB gain). Two of those also have (swtichable) instrument inputs which sound quite good and would work well with your acoustic guitrars whether they had pickups or you were using mics. The other two of those four could be used for your vocals. All four of those inputs have insert jacks. There are four other stereo line level input channels which can also be mono. You could run your keyboard through one or two of those channels, and you'd still have more inputs left for other line level sources. It's good, and relatively small. It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. The current version, the "i" series, has a Firewire interface which carries direct outputs from all of the channels into the computer and two channels (computer-mixed playback) back to the mixer for listening or overdubbing. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On Nov 6, 7:46*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/5/2010 6:30 PM, Danny T wrote: I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, sometime, you \know, you'll get what you need." You won't find a 6 channel mixer that meets all of those requirements, but you can do that with a Mackie Onyx 1220 (old model) or 1220i (current model), maybe. You didn't specify how many *vocal channels you need. The 1220 has four inputs that will accommodate microphones (XLR, phantom power, about 60 dB gain). Two of those also have (swtichable) instrument inputs which sound quite good and would work well with your acoustic guitrars whether they had pickups or you were using mics. The other two of those four could be used for your vocals. All four of those inputs have insert jacks. There are four other stereo line level input channels which can also be mono. You could run your keyboard through one or two of those channels, and you'd still have more inputs left for other line level sources. It's good, and relatively small. It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. The current version, the "i" series, has a Firewire interface which carries direct outputs from all of the channels into the computer and two channels (computer-mixed playback) back to the mixer for listening or overdubbing. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. Thanks for direction. |
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Danny T wrote:
I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. Soundcraft epm or efx. Kind regards Peter Larsen It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. Thanks for the wisdom |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
On 11/6/2010 7:40 PM, Danny T wrote:
Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. The Onyx is probably the best design Mackie has. It's not a $10,000 mixer so you'll probably have some reasons to find fault with it, but it sounds just fine. There was a time when Mackie had some manufacturing problems which sent a lot of people away, but now manufacturing is totally different. I don't know if there are any problems in the Chinese factory, but if there are, they're totally different from any problems that Mackie had 12 years ago. You really can't use that as a basis for comparison. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
On Nov 7, 7:12*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/6/2010 7:40 PM, Danny T wrote: Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. The Onyx is probably the best design Mackie has. It's not a $10,000 mixer so you'll probably have some reasons to find fault with it, but it sounds just fine. There was a time when Mackie had some manufacturing problems which sent a lot of people away, but now manufacturing is totally different. I don't know if there are any problems in the Chinese factory, but if there are, they're totally different from any problems that Mackie had 12 years ago. You really can't use that as a basis for comparison. I like my Onyx 1220. I even use the preamps for recording, and I get what I consider good results... there are some sample tracks from our latest album, "Love, Betrayal, and Redemption," on our web site at http://www.mont-alto.com/recordings....ayalRedemption These were recorded using a Rode NT4 into the Mackie preamps, then through a MOTU 828mkII (bypassing its preamps) onto a Mac. Pretty straightforward, and pretty clean. For live gigs with the Onyx, I've found the eq pretty easy to use as well. It doesn't include any on-board effects, which some other boards do; but I don't have much use for those. Rodney Sauer Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra www.mont-alto.com |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
On Nov 7, 8:12*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/6/2010 7:40 PM, Danny T wrote: Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. The Onyx is probably the best design Mackie has. It's not a $10,000 mixer so you'll probably have some reasons to find fault with it, but it sounds just fine. There was a time when Mackie had some manufacturing problems which sent a lot of people away, but now manufacturing is totally different. I don't know if there are any problems in the Chinese factory, but if there are, they're totally different from any problems that Mackie had 12 years ago. You really can't use that as a basis for comparison. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop byhttp://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.comnow and then The price and size are right for my needs so I think I'm getting it. Thanks for the opinion. Over the years, I've had a lot of good luck based on following your advice. |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
On Nov 7, 1:20*am, "Peter Larsen" wrote:
Danny T wrote: I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. Soundcraft epm or efx. * Kind regards * Peter Larsen It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. Thanks for the wisdom I'm a big fan of soundcraft but I didn't see these at the local shop. ... They had some notebooks but no inserts on them. Thank God for online! Thanks for the model depictions. |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
On Nov 7, 1:20*am, "Peter Larsen" wrote:
Danny T wrote: I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. Soundcraft epm or efx. * Kind regards * Peter Larsen It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. Thanks for the wisdom Second look.... the Soundcraft EPM6 is perfect but doesn't have a way to record from other then a master.The converters were just a wishful bonus so I think that if these preform like other soundcraft, it's going to be a hard choice between this and the Mackie Mike R was talking about. |
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Danny Turdboi, the delusional fat little rich kid still delusional after all these years?
"Danny T" wrote in message ... I need six channels for my solo rig This delusional fat little rich kid still pretending to "do gigs"? *snicker* Hey Dummy T, got any pics of you being MD for James Brown? Too ****ing funny. |
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Danny Turdboi, the delusional fat little rich kid stilldelusional after all these years?
Danny, I don't usually get involved in these group discussions as I'm
just starting out, but ignore this troll. Listened to some of your stuff, keep doing your thing. On Nov 9, 12:09*am, "The Famous 3-chord Beer Hall Karaoker." The Famous 3-chord Beer Hall wrote: "Danny T" wrote in message ... I need six channels for my solo rig This delusional fat little rich kid still pretending to "do gigs"? *snicker* Hey Dummy T, got any pics of you being MD for James Brown? Too ****ing funny. |
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Danny Turdboi, the delusional fat little rich kid stilldelusional after all these years?
On Nov 9, 12:22*pm, Luca wrote:
Danny, I don't usually get involved in these group discussions as I'm just starting out, but ignore this troll. Listened to some of your stuff, keep doing your thing. Thanks ... If anyone wants to come to the Angel of the Delta festival, I'll be playing there sunday. http://www.angelofthedeltafestival.com/ |
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Danny Turdboi, the delusional fat little rich kid still delusional after all these years?
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 03:09:33 -0500, The Famous 3-chord Beer Hall Karaoker.
wrote (in article ): Too ****ing funny. Grow up. --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA |
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Danny Turdboi, the delusional fat little rich kid stilldelusional after all these years?
Too ****ing funny.
Grow up. And before I get accused of making that post, I did NOT do it. Mike C |
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6 channel mixer with inserts?
Danny T wrote:
On Nov 6, 7:46 am, Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/5/2010 6:30 PM, Danny T wrote: I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, sometime, you \know, you'll get what you need." You won't find a 6 channel mixer that meets all of those requirements, but you can do that with a Mackie Onyx 1220 (old model) or 1220i (current model), maybe. You didn't specify how many vocal channels you need. The 1220 has four inputs that will accommodate microphones (XLR, phantom power, about 60 dB gain). Two of those also have (swtichable) instrument inputs which sound quite good and would work well with your acoustic guitrars whether they had pickups or you were using mics. The other two of those four could be used for your vocals. All four of those inputs have insert jacks. There are four other stereo line level input channels which can also be mono. You could run your keyboard through one or two of those channels, and you'd still have more inputs left for other line level sources. It's good, and relatively small. It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. The current version, the "i" series, has a Firewire interface which carries direct outputs from all of the channels into the computer and two channels (computer-mixed playback) back to the mixer for listening or overdubbing. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. Thanks for direction. Mackie's Onyx boards are surprisngly good, and IMO, much better than any of their earlier versions. -- shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/ http://armadillomusicproductions.com/who'slistening.html http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShai...withDougHarman |
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"Danny T" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 7:46 am, Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/5/2010 6:30 PM, Danny T wrote: I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, sometime, you \know, you'll get what you need." You won't find a 6 channel mixer that meets all of those requirements, but you can do that with a Mackie Onyx 1220 (old model) or 1220i (current model), maybe. You didn't specify how many vocal channels you need. The 1220 has four inputs that will accommodate microphones (XLR, phantom power, about 60 dB gain). Two of those also have (swtichable) instrument inputs which sound quite good and would work well with your acoustic guitrars whether they had pickups or you were using mics. The other two of those four could be used for your vocals. All four of those inputs have insert jacks. There are four other stereo line level input channels which can also be mono. You could run your keyboard through one or two of those channels, and you'd still have more inputs left for other line level sources. It's good, and relatively small. It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. The current version, the "i" series, has a Firewire interface which carries direct outputs from all of the channels into the computer and two channels (computer-mixed playback) back to the mixer for listening or overdubbing. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. Thanks for direction. I also have some bad memories of Mackie mixers...which is why I suggest you also look at the Allen and Heath Zed series....probably the Z14 but it's worth checking out the various sizes and options. All have insert points, phantom, plus a variety of USB2 feeds to computers and some with built in effects. Bob |
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On 12/30/2010 3:11 AM, Bob Howes wrote:
Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I guess you're talking about the Mackie Onyx 1220i? I think that was what we were discussing. What, in your expectations, makes a "really that good" mixer? I find that the combination of too many features for too little money gets you a mixer that's equally weak across the board, which means that the things that you use all the time (as opposed to the "nice to have if you need them" features like built-in effects) aren't as good a a less feature packed mixer that costs about the same. I don't recommend the Mackie CFX or other series with built-in effects other than for people to whom a compact solution is more important than low noise and internal headroom. I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. What didn't you care for, and what models were you using? The Onyx series didn't exist 12 years ago, but that was a period when Mackie had a supply problem with ribbon cable connectors that took too many years to surface (with problems). They handled it pretty well, I thought, but since there wasn't safety at issue, there wasn't a recall that some ****ed owners expected. Those who asked got replacement cables. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com - useful and interesting audio stuff |
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Bob Howes no.emailatnowhere.com wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 7:46 am, Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/5/2010 6:30 PM, Danny T wrote: I need six channels for my solo rig. I want phantom power, 2 mono acoustic guitars, and a keyboard plugged in all the time. I need inserts on the guitar and voc channels and I want a good mixer that is small. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, sometime, you \know, you'll get what you need." You won't find a 6 channel mixer that meets all of those requirements, but you can do that with a Mackie Onyx 1220 (old model) or 1220i (current model), maybe. You didn't specify how many vocal channels you need. The 1220 has four inputs that will accommodate microphones (XLR, phantom power, about 60 dB gain). Two of those also have (swtichable) instrument inputs which sound quite good and would work well with your acoustic guitrars whether they had pickups or you were using mics. The other two of those four could be used for your vocals. All four of those inputs have insert jacks. There are four other stereo line level input channels which can also be mono. You could run your keyboard through one or two of those channels, and you'd still have more inputs left for other line level sources. It's good, and relatively small. It would be really cool if there was a way to track in to a laptop but not really necessary. The current version, the "i" series, has a Firewire interface which carries direct outputs from all of the channels into the computer and two channels (computer-mixed playback) back to the mixer for listening or overdubbing. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Mike, More is better. That mixer looks plenty small enough to meet my needs but is it really that good a board? I haven't used a mackie board in over 12 or more years Back then I didn't care for them much. Thanks for direction. I also have some bad memories of Mackie mixers...which is why I suggest you also look at the Allen and Heath Zed series....probably the Z14 but it's worth checking out the various sizes and options. All have insert points, phantom, plus a variety of USB2 feeds to computers and some with built in effects. Bob The Mackie Onyx line is a whole new ballgame IMO. These are good little mixers, with good EQ (Yes, I said that), much better pres, and a really good DI input, too. Bob Olhsson commented in PSW that he'd attended a classical recording session where a Mackie Onyx was used and that he was surprised how good the board was. -- shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/ http://armadillomusicproductions.com/who'slistening.html http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShai...withDougHarman |
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