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How do I go about running the wires from the back to the front? I
have a 1998 toyota camry and I dont know how to get the RCA cables to the back of the head unit, or how to hide any of the cables (power, rca) , do you run these things under the carpet (if so how do you do that) or under the car to hide I am basically just lost, please help! |
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td wrote:
How do I go about running the wires from the back to the front? I have a 1998 toyota camry and I dont know how to get the RCA cables to the back of the head unit, or how to hide any of the cables (power, rca) , do you run these things under the carpet (if so how do you do that) or under the car to hide I am basically just lost, please help! DON'T run them outside the car! Take up the plastic trim along the bottoms of the doors, and you can pull the carpet back enough to run the wires. Run a single power wire directly to the battery; find a rubber grommet in the firewall to run it through (the wire needs to be protected from rubbing against the metal). Connect the amp's ground wire to the body of the car near the amp (scrape the paint off the metal to provide solid contact). Don't forget to run a single wire along with the RCAs for the amp's remote turn-on lead. |
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"Matt Ion" wrote in message news:BAvMi.84$Nz6.27@pd7urf2no... td wrote: How do I go about running the wires from the back to the front? I have a 1998 toyota camry and I dont know how to get the RCA cables to the back of the head unit, or how to hide any of the cables (power, rca) , do you run these things under the carpet (if so how do you do that) or under the car to hide I am basically just lost, please help! DON'T run them outside the car! Take up the plastic trim along the bottoms of the doors, and you can pull the carpet back enough to run the wires. Run a single power wire directly to the battery; find a rubber grommet Of coarse you meant to tell him to run a single power wire to an appropriate sized circuit breaker or fuse block located very close to the battery. The other side connecting directly to the battery, thus giving him a fighting chance to not set his car on fire... in the firewall to run it through (the wire needs to be protected from rubbing against the metal). Connect the amp's ground wire to the body of the car near the amp (scrape the paint off the metal to provide solid contact). Don't forget to run a single wire along with the RCAs for the amp's remote turn-on lead. |
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Take up the plastic trim along the
bottoms of the doors, and you can pull the carpet back enough to run the wires. Run a single power wire directly to the battery; find a rubber grommet lead. I will second this and say that this is how I run all my wires (under that plastic trim piece that runs along the bottom of the door). It is an effective way to hide all your wires and is relatively simple to do. They say you should run your power wires on one side of the car and RCA's on the other though I have run them together without any noise problems in the past. MOSFET MOSFET |
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Christopher "Torroid" Ott wrote:
"Matt Ion" wrote in message news:BAvMi.84$Nz6.27@pd7urf2no... td wrote: How do I go about running the wires from the back to the front? I have a 1998 toyota camry and I dont know how to get the RCA cables to the back of the head unit, or how to hide any of the cables (power, rca) , do you run these things under the carpet (if so how do you do that) or under the car to hide I am basically just lost, please help! DON'T run them outside the car! Take up the plastic trim along the bottoms of the doors, and you can pull the carpet back enough to run the wires. Run a single power wire directly to the battery; find a rubber grommet Of coarse you meant to tell him to run a single power wire to an appropriate sized circuit breaker or fuse block located very close to the battery. The other side connecting directly to the battery, thus giving him a fighting chance to not set his car on fire... Uh... yes, I meant to say that |
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MOSFET wrote:
Take up the plastic trim along the bottoms of the doors, and you can pull the carpet back enough to run the wires. Run a single power wire directly to the battery; find a rubber grommet lead. I will second this and say that this is how I run all my wires (under that plastic trim piece that runs along the bottom of the door). It is an effective way to hide all your wires and is relatively simple to do. They say you should run your power wires on one side of the car and RCA's on the other though I have run them together without any noise problems in the past. Agreed there too - there's a THEORETICAL chance of noise induction running power and signal side-by-side, but I too have never seen it. I'm sure John Durbin has books on the subject. |
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In article , "MOSFET" wrote:
Take up the plastic trim along the bottoms of the doors, and you can pull the carpet back enough to run the wires. Run a single power wire directly to the battery; find a rubber grommet lead. I will second this and say that this is how I run all my wires (under that plastic trim piece that runs along the bottom of the door). It is an effective way to hide all your wires and is relatively simple to do. They say you should run your power wires on one side of the car and RCA's on the other though I have run them together without any noise problems in the past. I guess I'm old, i always think of the METAL trim piece at the bottom of the door. I can't see any problem using multiple wires to create a flatter cross section for power wiring. I wired up three 12 gauge plus wires, each with its own fuse in my truck. greg |
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G wrote:
I guess I'm old, i always think of the METAL trim piece at the bottom of the door. I can't see any problem using multiple wires to create a flatter cross section for power wiring. I wired up three 12 gauge plus wires, each with its own fuse in my truck. I guess I do see the problem now. Its best not to do that. IN THEORY there should be no problem with that, other than maybe cost... The problem I saw, and only in a rare case, a partial short causing that wire fuse to blow, then the end of the wire sees the voltage from the other wires, which in my case will have twice the amperage being able to come in from the back side. I have a 20 amp fuse on each leg, so the wire with the short will be fused with 40 amps after the primary fuse fails feeding that leg, so that wire could get extra hot. Not a likely scenereo. Yes, but if you had a 20A fuse on each leg, one shorting and blowing that fuse would put more load on the others, which would in turn blow their fuses long before the wire heated up excessively. |
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Thanks everyone for the replies and help
Does anyone know of a good step by step sites to help me in this installation process? Like does the fuse need to be in the car or can it hang in the engine area under the hood? |
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td wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replies and help Does anyone know of a good step by step sites to help me in this installation process? Like does the fuse need to be in the car or can it hang in the engine area under the hood? The fuse MUST be under the hood, and should be as close as possible to the battery. This fuse serves ONE purporse: to protect your CAR. The idea is, if the wire shorts to the body anywhere along the route (like, where it goes through the firewall), that fuse will blow before the wire sets your carpet on fire. Here's a good site to start one: http://www.bcae1.com/ |
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If you running an amp that produces greater than 300 Watts of RMS
power, I suggest use a 4 Gauge power wire, with a 2 or 3 Gauge ground wire. 4 Gauge ground wire is fine as long as it is short. Ground wires should be no more than 1 1/2 feet in length. When screwing on the connections, make sure there is absolutely no rust or paint whatsoever. Once you sanded it down perfectly, put an anti-rust agent on the connections (I use WD-40). Make the connection is super tight (but without stripping anything). If you still are not getting enough power, you may want to replace your main chassis wire (the big wire that comes off the negative terminal of your battery and connects to your car chassis) with a 0, 1, or 2 gauge wire. If your amp(s) demand more power, then you might have to replace your battery and alternator (and most likely the wires that come from the alternator to the battery). Power capacitors are over-hyped... don't buy one unless you really need to. |
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A whole post full of dumb **** advice. You just made everyone here that much
dumber. In article .com, Mariachi wrote: If you running an amp that produces greater than 300 Watts of RMS power, I suggest use a 4 Gauge power wire, with a 2 or 3 Gauge ground wire. 4 Gauge ground wire is fine as long as it is short. Ground wires should be no more than 1 1/2 feet in length. 4 guage for 300 watts is over kill but wont hurt anything. You don't need to run a bigger guage wire for ground, (where does this **** come from?) In fact the shorter the ground wire the smaller the guage is needed. When screwing on the connections, make sure there is absolutely no rust or paint whatsoever. Once you sanded it down perfectly, put an anti-rust agent on the connections (I use WD-40). Make the connection is super tight (but without stripping anything). WD-40 is a anti-rust agent? If you still are not getting enough power, you may want to replace your main chassis wire (the big wire that comes off the negative terminal of your battery and connects to your car chassis) with a 0, 1, or 2 gauge wire. 0 guage ? LOL If your amp(s) demand more power, then you might have to replace your battery and alternator (and most likely the wires that come from the alternator to the battery). Why would you need to replace the battery? Power capacitors are over-hyped... don't buy one unless you really need to. |
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Mariachi wrote:
Why not replace the battery? If you listen to your stereo when your car is off, then a better battery would allow you to listen to your music longer (or perhaps you could possibly install two batteries in parallel). If you want your stock battery to go dead while you are listening to your music with your subs on, then be my guest. Otherwise, you will need a better battery. There's no point simply adding another battery in parallel though; your system won't drain one and then the other, it will just drain them both equally. If you're going to add a battery especially for your sound system, use a battery isolator, such as is commonly used in RVs. This will prevent your system from draining your main battery *at all*, so you never have to worry about being stranded. |
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On Oct 4, 9:05 pm, Matt Ion wrote:
Mariachi wrote: Why not replace the battery? If you listen to your stereo when your car is off, then a better battery would allow you to listen to your music longer (or perhaps you could possibly install two batteries in parallel). If you want your stock battery to go dead while you are listening to your music with your subs on, then be my guest. Otherwise, you will need a better battery. There's no point simply adding another battery in parallel though; your system won't drain one and then the other, it will just drain them both equally. If you're going to add a battery especially for your sound system, use a battery isolator, such as is commonly used in RVs. This will prevent your system from draining your main battery *at all*, so you never have to worry about being stranded. True, parallel batteries just increase the chemical potential energy, so you have more energy storage; although it still drains your main battery, just slower. If current drain from one battery equals 10 A, then the same current drain would divide equally among the two batteries with a current drain of 5 A per battery (assuming they have the same internal resistance). |
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Since this has been replied to already, I'm gonna leave the poor guy alone.
In article 95gNi.274$oI4.193@pd7urf1no, Matt Ion wrote: Mariachi wrote: Why not replace the battery? If you listen to your stereo when your car is off, then a better battery would allow you to listen to your music longer (or perhaps you could possibly install two batteries in parallel). If you want your stock battery to go dead while you are listening to your music with your subs on, then be my guest. Otherwise, you will need a better battery. |
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On Oct 5, 11:28 pm, (Captain Howdy) wrote:
Since this has been replied to already, I'm gonna leave the poor guy alone. Yes, thank you. You can leave me alone. |
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Okay then I will.
In article om, Mariachi wrote: On Oct 5, 11:28 pm, (Captain Howdy) wrote: Since this has been replied to already, I'm gonna leave the poor guy alone. Yes, thank you. You can leave me alone. |
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On Oct 6, 7:50 pm, (Captain Howdy) wrote:
Okay then I will. In article om, Mariachi wrote: On Oct 5, 11:28 pm, (Captain Howdy) wrote: Since this has been replied to already, I'm gonna leave the poor guy alone. Yes, thank you. You can leave me alone. You know, it's okay to act friendly once in a while. |
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In article 95gNi.274$oI4.193@pd7urf1no, Matt Ion wrote:
Mariachi wrote: Why not replace the battery? If you listen to your stereo when your car is off, then a better battery would allow you to listen to your music longer (or perhaps you could possibly install two batteries in parallel). If you want your stock battery to go dead while you are listening to your music with your subs on, then be my guest. Otherwise, you will need a better battery. There's no point simply adding another battery in parallel though; your system won't drain one and then the other, it will just drain them both equally. If you're going to add a battery especially for your sound system, use a battery isolator, such as is commonly used in RVs. This will prevent your system from draining your main battery *at all*, so you never have to worry about being stranded. Without an isolator, the drain is much easier for the system, and battery life will increase. When you drain a battery too far, its bad. greg |
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G wrote:
In article 95gNi.274$oI4.193@pd7urf1no, Matt Ion wrote: Mariachi wrote: Why not replace the battery? If you listen to your stereo when your car is off, then a better battery would allow you to listen to your music longer (or perhaps you could possibly install two batteries in parallel). If you want your stock battery to go dead while you are listening to your music with your subs on, then be my guest. Otherwise, you will need a better battery. There's no point simply adding another battery in parallel though; your system won't drain one and then the other, it will just drain them both equally. If you're going to add a battery especially for your sound system, use a battery isolator, such as is commonly used in RVs. This will prevent your system from draining your main battery *at all*, so you never have to worry about being stranded. Without an isolator, the drain is much easier for the system, and battery life will increase. When you drain a battery too far, its bad. When you drain both batteries too far for the car to start, it's worse. |
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In article OXuOi.3281$th2.943@pd7urf3no, Matt Ion wrote:
G wrote: In article 95gNi.274$oI4.193@pd7urf1no, Matt Ion wrote: Mariachi wrote: Why not replace the battery? If you listen to your stereo when your car is off, then a better battery would allow you to listen to your music longer (or perhaps you could possibly install two batteries in parallel). If you want your stock battery to go dead while you are listening to your music with your subs on, then be my guest. Otherwise, you will need a better battery. There's no point simply adding another battery in parallel though; your system won't drain one and then the other, it will just drain them both equally. If you're going to add a battery especially for your sound system, use a battery isolator, such as is commonly used in RVs. This will prevent your system from draining your main battery *at all*, so you never have to worry about being stranded. Without an isolator, the drain is much easier for the system, and battery life will increase. When you drain a battery too far, its bad. When you drain both batteries too far for the car to start, it's worse. Yes, but with two you have twice the reserve, or half the chance of going too far. greg |
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Yeah but, wearing two condoms gives you twice the protection and half the
feeling. In article , (G) wrote: In article OXuOi.3281$th2.943@pd7urf3no, Matt Ion wrote: G wrote: Yes, but with two you have twice the reserve, or half the chance of going too far. greg |
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Ok first off depending on the size of the system that's getting put in, the stock battery, alternator, and everything else is sufficient. Second, if the system is more than 1000 watts a capacitor should definatly be installed. It will save your alternator, battery, and it will allow you to listen to music with your subs on for a longer period of time w/o draining the battery too badly. If you have the problem that the system is drawing more power than your stock battery and alternator can handle(very unlikely unless your installing TV's, 4+ subwoofers, 2+ amplifiers, and multiple components) you can install a battery in your trunk, install an alternator that has twice the output and hook that alternator up to both batteries. If you want the trunk to have its own power supply then you can install a battery in the trunk and get a small electric generator that you can rig up to run off of and power that battery. I've put multiple systems in my 2000 Toyota Camry LE, every one of them has been a different power level. If you want pictures i can take some and post them on here and if you have any questions feel free to ask. -- b_radsoccer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ b_radsoccer's Profile: 53973 View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/sh...d.php?t=281534 CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over TWO million posts online! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Oh yeah, The 1998 Camry is exactly like mine except for the tailights. You would be better off running the power cable down the driver side of the car and the rca cable down the passenger side just to eliminate the possibility of power noise. If your head unit doesn't have the capability of remote subs(you can turn off the power going to the remote turn on wire through the head unit) i would advise you to hook up the remote turn on wire through a switch. That way you can listen to music with your car off and with your subs off, and it's a plus if your city has a sound ordinance then you can shut off your subs when you see a cop and you don't have to turn down your music. -- b_radsoccer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ b_radsoccer's Profile: 53973 View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/sh...d.php?t=281534 CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over TWO million posts online! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Oct 31, 7:30 pm, b_radsoccer b_radsoccer.2zc...@no-
mx.caraudioforum.com wrote: Oh yeah, The 1998 Camry is exactly like mine except for the tailights. You would be better off running the power cable down the driver side of the car and the rca cable down the passenger side just to eliminate the possibility of power noise. If your head unit doesn't have the capability of remote subs(you can turn off the power going to the remote turn on wire through the head unit) i would advise you to hook up the remote turn on wire through a switch. That way you can listen to music with your car off and with your subs off, and it's a plus if your city has a sound ordinance then you can shut off your subs when you see a cop and you don't have to turn down your music. -- b_radsoccer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ b_radsoccer's Profile: 53973 View this thread:http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/sh...d.php?t=281534 CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over TWO million posts online! -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com How does a capacitor alone help not drain the battery *to badly*? And why not just replace the alternator right away? If your system is drawing more than what your electrical system can handle why not just fix it at the source? That way when/if you decide to upgrade to tv's, 4+ subs, 2+ amps then all you have to do is maybe replace the battery or if you want a capacitor. All I have seen or heard of a capacitor doing is evening out the power spikes that are associated with having high powered subs. And from what i know it takes awhile for the capacitor to *recharge* again. |
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On Oct 10, 8:58 pm, (Captain Howdy) wrote:
Yeah but, wearing two condoms gives you twice the protection and half the feeling. In article , (G) wrote: In article OXuOi.3281$th2.943@pd7urf3no, Matt Ion wrote: G wrote: Yes, but with two you have twice the reserve, or half the chance of going too far. greg- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Dont you know your not spose to wear two condomns?? |
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What the capacitor does is that is stores a charge of between 12 and 14 volts that will get used to even out the voltage drain caused by a loud base note. In a lot of cases when there are many loud base notes that are repeated for a lengthy period of time(which is the case with many rap songs) it will pull more voltage from your battery than your alternator can supply and the capacitor will lower these voltage spikes enough that your stock alternator will be able to supply enough voltage to sustain or even recharge the battery during these heavy loads. Capacitors don't take any time to recharge. At least mine doesn't. You could replace your stock alternator with a high output alternator if you wanted to, but you could severely shorten the life of your battery if you spend lengthy amounts of time with your subs off or turned down really low. During these periods of time the alternator is supplying excessive amounts of voltage to a battery that is only using the amount of voltage that the stock alternator would normally provide or even a little less if your subs are off. Depending on the capacitor that you get, you can usually get a cheap to mediochre one for less than the price of a high output alternator. I'd say that if your system is running on less than 1000 watts of power then you should be fine without a capacitor. Depending on the vehicle you could probably get away with 1200 watts without a capacitor, but that depends on the size of the alternator that it has stock. The best way to figure out if you would need a capacitor is to hook up a voltmeter to your battery and see if the voltage drops below the minimum voltage requirement of the battery for correct operation of the vehical's components(usually if the voltage drops below 5). -- b_radsoccer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ b_radsoccer's Profile: 53973 View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/sh...d.php?t=281534 CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over TWO million posts online! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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