Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Abbedd

Abbedd,

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and apply EQ
and other effects. Such programs range in price from freeware to $500 and
more.

--Ethan

On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:43:24 -0400, "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner
dot com wrote:

Abbedd,

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and apply EQ
and other effects. Such programs range in price from freeware to $500 and
more.

--Ethan


Yes but what I have are just Octave eqs. I need 1/3 octave


Abbedd

Abbedd,

I need 1/3 octave

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

1/3 octave EQ is kind of old school, and for EQ'ing music and speech a
parametric EQ is generally better and more flexible.

--Ethan

Abbedd,

I need 1/3 octave

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

1/3 octave EQ is kind of old school, and for EQ'ing music and speech a
parametric EQ is generally better and more flexible.

--Ethan

On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:43:24 -0400, "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner
dot com wrote:

Abbedd,

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and apply EQ
and other effects. Such programs range in price from freeware to $500 and
more.

--Ethan


Yes but what I have are just Octave eqs. I need 1/3 octave


Abbedd

On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:43:24 -0400, "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner
dot com wrote:

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and apply EQ
and other effects. Such programs range in price from freeware to $500 and
more.

Yes. But he asked for a 1/3 octave eq. There are plenty of
multiband eq plugins with sweepable mid-points, but I haven't seen a
1/3 octave one.

This suggests that maybe an adjustable multiband eq has been found
sufficient? It's certainly capable of a tight notch-out, limited to
1/3 octave or even much less. You can do a lot of shaping with (say)
10 bands. If you want more, it should be possible to run two (or
more) instances of a plug-in in series.

Maybe the op should look to the effect required rather than to the
hardware traditionally used to archive it?

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:43:24 -0400, "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner
dot com wrote:

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and
apply EQ and other effects. Such programs range in price from
freeware to $500 and more.

Yes. But he asked for a 1/3 octave eq. There are plenty of
multiband eq plugins with sweepable mid-points, but I haven't seen a
1/3 octave one.

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide range of
other kinds of eq.

On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:56:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide range of
other kinds of eq.

So it does. I always seem to forget about CoolEdit/Audition. For
some reason it seems to be better established among sound engineers
than among musicians.

Is it a good eq? My gut reaction is to get worried when I see more
than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start happening. But
maybe it's different with software?

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:56:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide
range of other kinds of eq.

So it does. I always seem to forget about CoolEdit/Audition. For
some reason it seems to be better established among sound engineers
than among musicians.

I don't know how the market research goes.

Is it a good eq?

In general CE is an outstanding eq, though I have to admit that I never use
its graphics. Not due to any problems, just because I'm attracted elsewhere.

I use the FFT eq the most, followed by the parametric eq and the scientific
filters.

My gut reaction is to get worried when I see more
than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start happening.

The thing about Audition is the breadth of choice. BTW, the FFT eq has no
phase shift.

But maybe it's different with software?

More like, its different when eq can be implemented digitally, and in a
context that has practically unlimited dynamic range.

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:56:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide
range of other kinds of eq.

So it does. I always seem to forget about CoolEdit/Audition. For
some reason it seems to be better established among sound engineers
than among musicians.

I don't know how the market research goes.

Is it a good eq?

In general CE is an outstanding eq, though I have to admit that I never use
its graphics. Not due to any problems, just because I'm attracted elsewhere.

I use the FFT eq the most, followed by the parametric eq and the scientific
filters.

My gut reaction is to get worried when I see more
than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start happening.

The thing about Audition is the breadth of choice. BTW, the FFT eq has no
phase shift.

But maybe it's different with software?

More like, its different when eq can be implemented digitally, and in a
context that has practically unlimited dynamic range.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:56:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide range
of
other kinds of eq.

So it does. I always seem to forget about CoolEdit/Audition. For
some reason it seems to be better established among sound engineers
than among musicians.

Is it a good eq? My gut reaction is to get worried when I see more
than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start happening. But
maybe it's different with software?

**You're thinking in analogue terms. ALL analogue eqs are a complete waste
of time. Always have been. Digital eq is fine. Digital eqs do not exhibit
phase shift problems.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:56:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide range
of
other kinds of eq.

So it does. I always seem to forget about CoolEdit/Audition. For
some reason it seems to be better established among sound engineers
than among musicians.

Is it a good eq? My gut reaction is to get worried when I see more
than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start happening. But
maybe it's different with software?

**You're thinking in analogue terms. ALL analogue eqs are a complete waste
of time. Always have been. Digital eq is fine. Digital eqs do not exhibit
phase shift problems.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Laurence,

when I see more than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start
happening. But maybe it's different with software?

1) Most software EQ more or less models analog EQ, and phase shift is
inherent in the process and totally benign.

2) There is nothing "nasty" about phase shift. The resultant change in
*frequency response* can be an issue, unless of course you're using an EQ in
which case you want the response change.

See this great article I recently rescued from obscurity:

www.ethanwiner.com/phase.html

--Ethan

Laurence,

when I see more than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start
happening. But maybe it's different with software?

1) Most software EQ more or less models analog EQ, and phase shift is
inherent in the process and totally benign.

2) There is nothing "nasty" about phase shift. The resultant change in
*frequency response* can be an issue, unless of course you're using an EQ in
which case you want the response change.

See this great article I recently rescued from obscurity:

www.ethanwiner.com/phase.html

--Ethan

On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:56:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide range of
other kinds of eq.

So it does. I always seem to forget about CoolEdit/Audition. For
some reason it seems to be better established among sound engineers
than among musicians.

Is it a good eq? My gut reaction is to get worried when I see more
than a handful of eq bands - nasty phase things start happening. But
maybe it's different with software?

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:43:24 -0400, "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner
dot com wrote:

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and
apply EQ and other effects. Such programs range in price from
freeware to $500 and more.

Yes. But he asked for a 1/3 octave eq. There are plenty of
multiband eq plugins with sweepable mid-points, but I haven't seen a
1/3 octave one.

Audition has 1, 1/2, and 1/3 octave graphic eqs, as well as a wide range of
other kinds of eq.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
Yes. But he asked for a 1/3 octave eq. There are plenty of
multiband eq plugins with sweepable mid-points, but I haven't seen a
1/3 octave one.

Many software graphic EQ's allow you to have even less than 1/3 octave
spacing by placing control points wherever you want. Software is not tied to
traditional bands or spacing, but can be if you prefer it.

TonyP.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
Yes. But he asked for a 1/3 octave eq. There are plenty of
multiband eq plugins with sweepable mid-points, but I haven't seen a
1/3 octave one.

Many software graphic EQ's allow you to have even less than 1/3 octave
spacing by placing control points wherever you want. Software is not tied to
traditional bands or spacing, but can be if you prefer it.

TonyP.

On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:43:24 -0400, "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner
dot com wrote:

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and apply EQ
and other effects. Such programs range in price from freeware to $500 and
more.

Yes. But he asked for a 1/3 octave eq. There are plenty of
multiband eq plugins with sweepable mid-points, but I haven't seen a
1/3 octave one.

This suggests that maybe an adjustable multiband eq has been found
sufficient? It's certainly capable of a tight notch-out, limited to
1/3 octave or even much less. You can do a lot of shaping with (say)
10 bands. If you want more, it should be possible to run two (or
more) instances of a plug-in in series.

Maybe the op should look to the effect required rather than to the
hardware traditionally used to archive it?

Abbedd,

Is there such an animal that takes wav files?

Any decent audio editor program will let you load Wave files and apply EQ
and other effects. Such programs range in price from freeware to $500 and
more.

--Ethan